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Victor Thorian
2008-06-22, 03:42 PM
Vic's comprehensive guide to taking over the world and being a better person in 99 steps /1

So, your girlfriend left you, you don't have any money to buy some flowers to literally buy her heart back or you're fired from your job and you don't have any money to buy some more alcohol. Even better, your parents died in a plane crash in Africa. Oh wait, they survived the crash but then some skinny people in weird outfit ate them. Yes, I know, life sucks. It all comes down to same thing anyway, you feel miserable and you want to die. This is where I come in, to save you from the depths of hell and make you a productive person for great justice. Ok, stop laughing, I do it because I don't have anything better to do, and I'm good at this. And the funny thing is, you will learn to trust me.

First step on the long road to what you might call "self improvement" ( what I call it is too philosophical to discuss here ) is this: STOP WHATEVER THE F**K YOU'RE DOING. Really. It doesn't matter. Quit your job. Tell your girlfriend that her hair actually looks like a chicken's a*s. I'll say it again: It doesn't matter. They're all replaceable. You don't actually need any of these to become a better person. You don't need them to live. Dispel all the illusions you hold of valued ones or important things. Nothing is important. Accepting that nothing actually matters is going to make everything a lot better and easier. You will get many more of those things eventually anyway, so it's not a big deal.

Let me explain it like this for those of you who are still somehow hesistant. Whatever you do actually doesn't matter for anyone else but you. No one cares if you can dance. No one thinks you're great. Oh yeah, they will tell you things that might sound suggestive of your glory. Remember of the times when your girlfriend made you watch an emotinal movie. Did you really tell her that it sucked? Yes, that DOES actually mean that if you can do it, people can do it too.

Which brings us to rule number two. Do it to them before they do it to you. Know that the world has many ways to make your life suck more than it should. Go out of your way to share the pain. You will feel better. The trick with real world ( I'll call it irl from now on ) is that nothing is infinite. See, you can't make something out of nothing. So if you make people sad or angry, that means you actually have to give them some of your sadness and anger. Which makes you LESS sad or angry. That's a great way to feel better. Same thing with good feelings. You have to give up your own happiness to make people happy. Oh yeah, and they won't even thank you for it. But if you make people sad, they might actually come here and read this and become better themselves. It works out great for everyone.

Rule three. Trust No One. Especially make sure you don't trust anyone who says bad things about your new lifestyle. They are suckers. They are afraid to change. They think having a computer and a working DSL connection is enough. Let me tell you my new friend. It is not. It's like saying " Ok, no problem I can walk with one leg. " That isn't walking. Stop lying to yourself. Accept that you are nothing. I will get back to that in a few rules, bear with me a moment here as I explain this :

Let's say you've been in a desert for two days with no drinks, and somehow mysteriously there are two glasses of water one of which you must choose appear in front of you. One is half full, other is completely filled. Which one will you take?

You chose wrong. You should be able to say "It doesn't matter anyway, I'll die a few days later if I drink any of these". There is always a third option. Replace their psuedo-morals and outdated ethics with something you actually can touch. Start thinking in big scale. Like, the universe. The child you saved today can kill millions of people. The hitch-hiker you picked up along the road can slit your throat and r*pe your dead body and go have a dinner with your wife. Almost always, doing nothing is better than doing something because there're no unforeseen consequences. If you do nothing, nothing is supposed to happen so you can't be held responsible for something that happens. All the people who tried to do good things have died just the same.

So you confused little kittens will ask: " How am I supposed to know when to act and when to do nothing? ". Very easy. When in doubt, start making the thing responsible for your discomfort suffer. That will always give you something to do while you think of ways to send waves and waves of more widespread suffering. ( so you feel better, remember? ) Don't do anything to make people feel better. Just give them pain, they'll thank you later for it.



--- Coming soon.

Player_Zero
2008-06-22, 03:51 PM
You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We are all part of the same compost heap.

This is your life, good to the last drop.

Seriously though, what? :smallconfused:

You starting some sort of cult, eh? Can I be the treasurer? I like treasure. Especially buried treasure. Did I ever tell you about the time I dug up a bottlecap? That was awesome. It was a Caribu cola bottle cap. My buried treasure.

What I just said makes more sense than what you said.

Parvum
2008-06-22, 04:12 PM
Heh.

How entertaining. And depressing, if serious. I could quote each paragraph and dissect each flaw in several summary paragraphs, but that severely irritates me and would be quite foolish if I misunderstood your intentions in any way.

But correct me if I'm wrong: Nothing I have is important. Nothing I do matters, and I matter to noone. Everyone is lying to me, and nothing has a point or purpose.

If all this is true, why am I listening to you rather than finding the closest friendly neighborhood cyanide source?

Victor Thorian
2008-06-22, 04:23 PM
You are listening to me because things I say are "true". Let me pick a random example.

I once said, if I threw a rock down from my balcony, It would hit the ground if there wasn't something else on the way that prevented it. That, my friend, is fact unless you try to overclock yourself and comment like "NOT IF YOU'RE IN URANUS, LOL".

Now, let me tell you something who isn't me said: Hitler was known to say that he was a man of peace.

Since I have fulfilled Godwin's law and proven that everything I say will be truer than what anyone else says on the subject, I shall tell you why you will not kill yourself.

Because it doesn't matter if you live or die, and it isn't smart to die before you read my guide to afterlife. You don't want to get lost in purgatory now, do you?

SDF
2008-06-22, 04:25 PM
You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We are all part of the same compost heap.

This is your life, good to the last drop.

Seriously though, what? :smallconfused:

It's a quote from the book Fight Club.

I don't believe anyone with a guide to taking over the world, unless it was written by Alexander the Great, his teacher, his teacher's teacher, or his teacher's teacher's teacher. I don't need or want self improvement right now. I'm doing good, I'm happy, I have ambitions, and I'm actively working on achieving them.

chiasaur11
2008-06-22, 04:32 PM
Hey, I have a counterpoint!

Bacon.

potatocubed
2008-06-22, 04:34 PM
I agree. Bacon wins.

Player_Zero
2008-06-22, 04:34 PM
Hey, I have a counterpoint!

Bacon.

Would you like to hear about my fish? Its name is STEVE!

STEVE THE FISH?! Who would've thunk it, eh?

Anyway, I met him back in Soho, where they drink champagne and it tastes just like coca cola... That's C-O-L-A cola.

de-trick
2008-06-22, 04:52 PM
De-Trick's guide to happiness
1) smile, look for the bright side of life
2) learn to laugh at yourself
3) enjoy life, there's people worse off than you
4) find a stress reliving activity
5) leave a bad environment

there's some good help, encase a person was looking for some

Mauve Shirt
2008-06-22, 05:07 PM
Another counterargument to being anti-social, depressed and resigning yourself to failure because you're going to die anyway: Chocolate! And sex! And crack!
Edit: And Belgium!

I agree with de-trick.

Victor Thorian
2008-06-22, 05:10 PM
Anti-socialism is a religion? Or is it a political movement?

SDF
2008-06-22, 05:13 PM
De-Trick's guide to happiness
2) learn to laugh at yourself
3) enjoy life, there's people worse off than you
4) find a stress reliving activity
5) leave a bad environment

It's better if you learn to laugh with yourself! :P
Someone has to be at the bottom.
Be careful with laxatives!
I've been to New Jersey, it's a big place!


Another counterargument to being anti-social, depressed and resigning yourself to failure because you're going to die anyway: Chocolate! And sex! And crack!

Yes... it's crack!

Lady Tialait
2008-06-22, 06:05 PM
Wow, I belive the secrete to happyness is to just not give a damn about anything, then again...I'm about to have a kid..full of happyness..i'm sure..but i've heard i'm going to be bawled from all the stress..

Volug
2008-06-22, 06:17 PM
Vic's comprehensive guide to taking over the world and being a better person in 99 steps /1

So, your girlfriend left you, you don't have any money to buy some flowers to literally buy her heart back or you're fired from your job and you don't have any money to buy some more alcohol.

Stoped there....

Something tells me I won't like what this has to say, most likely...:smallfrown:

I do tend to think what most people think is normal, is probably horrible, evil, wrong, or satanic (Happened manymany times), and I won't get more into that...

Otherwise, if your tips (which I probably won't finish reading on the off chance I won't agree with you) do help people... In a good way I hope... Thanks for sharing some of your own tips with other people.

Flickerdart
2008-06-22, 06:21 PM
Anti-socialism is a religion? Or is it a political movement?
Uh, yes, since Socialism is a political movement, then Anti-socialism would be one too, I suppose. See what I did there?

Dallas-Dakota
2008-06-22, 06:23 PM
Meh. Taking over the world is fun. But then ruling it gets boring and to much responsibility. Trust me, I know.



Destroying worlds is so much more fun!

Phae Nymna
2008-06-22, 07:05 PM
*slow clap*
Ah... heh..heheheh...HEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! :smallamused:

Can you feel the Schadenfreude?
I certainly can.

Desidus
2008-06-22, 07:20 PM
Nietzsche Wannabe per chance? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NietzscheWannabe)

That being said, wouldn't an ever recurring cycle of suffering do nothing but create more suffering which, by the very definition of the word "suffering" be bad? At what point does the selfish person realize that instead of making others miserable to make themselves happy, not making others miserable in turn makes themselves less miserable?

Or did I just take this thread WAY too seriously and need to skip away while humming to myself?



And on a side note, I feel like a hippy right now. hippy bad. :(

Madmal
2008-06-22, 07:23 PM
Great, another person with a poor-Nietzschean overdose. :smallsigh:

I raise a glass to you, hoping than you won't die by a mental breakdown, with only the words you expressed here as your cursed last testimony.

SurlySeraph
2008-06-22, 08:37 PM
My guide to happiness:
Happiness is for your next life. Spend this one earning it.

My opinion on Victor Thorian's guide:
Inflicting pain will make you happier. Morality is outdated. Doing good things can make bad things happen to you, but if you do bad things you will automatically be safe. The consequences of your actions are unpredictable Oh, how original and edgy.
Grow up. Human suffering matters. Good and evil exist. It may be impossible to define them, they may not always be clear, and they may not always be meted out justly. They still exist. Being consciously and willfully evil, as you advocate, is the worst thing that anyone can possibly do. If there's an afterlife, you screwed yourself over for it. If there isn't, you devoted your entire existence to making things worse, and will never be able to take that back. Intentionally making things worse is not only wrong, it's also foolish. It benefits no one, not even yourself; even if you are never caught and never feel guilt, you just made the world worse for everyone. Making things worse is something to be ashamed of; even a three-year-old can understand that.
In case I haven't made my philosophy clear enough: Doing good things is good. Doing bad things is bad. Good is desirable and bad is undesirable. Act accordingly.

Bor the Barbarian Monk
2008-06-22, 08:48 PM
I can't help but wonder why people are feeding into the maliciousness of the OP? There is nothing new being shared, no help being offered, and such a diatribe deserves more than ignoring, but reporting. Might I recommend you follow suit?

This will be my one and only post to this ridiculous, angst-filled thread, and I can only hope others will follow my example and just let it die.

Volug
2008-06-22, 08:56 PM
Wrong is WRONG even if everyone is doing it.
Right is right even if nobody doing it.

I also agree with Bor.

Don Julio Anejo
2008-06-22, 09:22 PM
I can't help but wonder why people are feeding into the maliciousness of the OP? There is nothing new being shared, no help being offered, and such a diatribe deserves more than ignoring, but reporting. Might I recommend you follow suit?

This will be my one and only post to this ridiculous, angst-filled thread, and I can only hope others will follow my example and just let it die.
+1.

The post does have a few points (like if you don't like something in your life, go and change it). BUT IT'LL GET YOU NOWHERE IF YOU INSULT PEOPLE TO MAKE YOUR POINT. Insulting only works for Doctor Phil. Carl Rogers after doing 20 years of research, interviews, video review and a boatload of statistics I don't even understand begs to differ.

Seriously. This is like existential therapy (based in part on Nietzsche by the way) done by a Nazi, KKK member or some other very violent very angry person.

Solo
2008-06-22, 09:25 PM
I agree. Bacon wins.

Giant Frog.


Now that we've got that settled, I think we can all agree that the OP is overthinking this.

All you really need to do is start stabbing and not stop until the universe is yours.

Player_Zero
2008-06-23, 04:37 AM
Giant Frog.


Is no match for my +1 flaming weasel of fortitude!

...After reading some of the above posts I get the feeling that some people haven't been paying attention. JOKE THREAD IS JOKE. :smalltongue:

Victor Thorian
2008-06-23, 10:39 AM
Okay, now I'll talk about personal relationships!.. at least in a bit. For all you good doers out there, listen to Voltaire - When You're Evil. Obviously being evil is superior.

Anyway, soon I shall lead the Giant in The Playground Anti-Social Party! We are going to take over the world by utilising goatse! ( don't google this, not even I am that evil )

Illiterate Scribe
2008-06-23, 01:08 PM
Anyway, soon I shall lead the Giant in The Playground Anti-Social Party! We are going to take over the world by utilising goatse! ( don't google this, not even I am that evil )

Oh damn, you're evil. You really are. What with this oh-so-edgy existentialism, and 'MORALITY IS 4 TEH WEAK!!!1!', you'll make thousands of converts.


Please. Goatse is old hat, and your 'crusade' speaks volumes about itself for holding it up as the example of ultimate evil.

If you're doing this for the lulz, then I commend you for riling people up, but it's not a totally imaginative stratagem.

bosssmiley
2008-06-23, 02:08 PM
Giant Frog.

I endorse this position. GIANT FROG is always the answer.

"Can we GIANT FROG? Yes we can!"

Vote GIANT FROG for ceaseless undirected ferment we can believe in. :smallbiggrin:

(and...threat killed. Call me Typhoid Eggy)

Illiterate Scribe
2008-06-23, 02:31 PM
http://www.dvdactive.com/misc/chris/images/reviews/bigscore/hypnotoad.gif

ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOFROG!

Telonius
2008-06-23, 03:03 PM
It's a quote from the book Fight Club.

I don't believe anyone with a guide to taking over the world, unless it was written by Alexander the Great, his teacher, his teacher's teacher, or his teacher's teacher's teacher.

Alexander was taught by Aristotle, who was taught by Plato, who was taught by Socrates.

So, you're off to form an ideal Republic, then? :smallbiggrin:

Player_Zero
2008-06-23, 03:05 PM
Republic

Republic?! But they'll never defeat the Sith! That shot is impossible even for a computer!

Roland St. Jude
2008-06-23, 04:22 PM
Sheriff of Moddingham: Real world politics is not an appropriate topic on this board. Also, profanity, filtered or masked, is not allowed. Finally, this thread seems hopelessly derailed and off-topic and the initial topic not really worth salvaging. Thread locked.