VOTE, the Democracy Demon's Devilishly Devious and Decidedly Diabolical Desultory Derision (Random Banter) #100

[VOTE]

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[Rawhide]

Told you it would be something special :smallwink:.

[SMEE]

There... are... too many words starting with D at the title! :smalleek:

Gah! * dies out of words starting with D overload * x.x

[Serpentine]

:smallconfused:
...

:confused:

Eh? Is there something I'm missing here? :smallconfused:

[Charity]

Actually alliteration is always awesome.

[Rawhide]

Hmm, we haven't given VOTE his avatar back since the forum switch. There, fixed.

[Thanatos 51-50]

While the alliteration included is, indeed, delicious...
I actually have no clue who VOTE is - much less how hes special.
Someone educate me, please?

[Dallas-Dakota]

My guess is that VOTE is actually one of the first accounts made in the forum. Since his join date is 2004. Not even the mods have that I think, usually they're in 2005 I think.

[Spiryt]

While the alliteration included is, indeed, delicious...
I actually have no clue who VOTE is - much less how hes special.
Someone educate me, please?

Well, I clicked at found all posts by Vote, and results were interesting.

[banjo1985]

*is confused*

However, I am impressed by that alliteration :smallbiggrin:

[Lord Herman]

@dallas: That can't be it; there are a few accounts from as early as 2002, maybe even 2001, if I'm not mistaken.

[Rawhide]

*sighs* Someone will eventually wake up who knows who VOTE is. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/announcement.php?f=16&a=19)..

[Oregano]

ahh, that explains a lot, I was lost there.

My new laptop came, yay!:smallbiggrin:

[Spiryt]

*sighs* Someone will eventually wake up who knows who VOTE is. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/announcement.php?f=16&a=19)..

I kno ! Vote must be other Giant's account.

Or maybe not

[Dallas-Dakota]

His other post certainly indicates that.

[Rawhide]

It is actually a shared account, used by any moderator who runs a design contest to count the votes. *curses his bad luck at having no design contest participants awake at the time*

[Oregano]

Yep, but how many design contestants are there that still come on the boards? and it's summer meaning even less people will be online.

[Tempest Fennac]

How are you finding your new laptop, Oregano? I've never had anything to do with those contests, so I wouldn't have had a clue about who VOTE is.

[Rawhide]

Yep, but how many design contestants are there that still come on the boards? and it's summer meaning even less people will be online.

At a quick glance looking only at people who have posted here: The_Glyphstone, rtg0922, Fax_Celestis, Lord Iames Osari, StickMan, Djinn_In_Tonic, Gezina, PhoeKun, The Vorpal Tribble, AngelSword, "Shiny, Bearer of the Pokystick", Zherog, and others. That doesn't include those that just read and/or vote.

[Mercenary Pen]

*is confused*

However, I am impressed by that alliteration :smallbiggrin:

But WHY must it always be alliteration using the letter D? Surely there are other deserving letters out there that have been hideously neglected whilst the letter D receives all this unwarranted attention...

[Oregano]

Well I'm currently charging it to full so I won't be able to use for an hour or more at least but it looks a lot cooler than I thought.:smalltongue:

Plus, I need to do my comic and I can't be bothered downloading inkscape again so for now I'm using my PC, plus I set up a new desk the other day so I don't want to waste it.

[Tempest Fennac]

When I first got my laptop, I often used the house's main computer unless someone else needed it. Nowadays, I only use that computer if my laptop isn't working properly.

[Oregano]

That's more or less what it's for because both me and my brother like to go on the computer(I'm on it the most though) so now that I have a laptop I can go on that and let my brother on the pc. Also for College work and so I can go on the internet on holiday.:smallwink:

[Rawhide]

I know just the thing to make this thread perfect... there.

[TFT]

*Clicks the vote button*

HA, FIRST VOTE!

*Hides in the shadows*

[Spiryt]

I know just the thing to make this thread perfect... there.

Yay, a poll! And a hilarious one.

[Rawhide]

*Clicks the vote button*

HA, FIRST VOTE!

*Hides in the shadows*

Did it take you long to decide which option to choose?

[Tempest Fennac]

I've never taken my laptop on holiday with me due to hotels being so expensive as far as internet access goes. I've been spending more time on the internet since last year due to not having anything better to do until I start at university in September.

[Spiryt]

Did it take you long to decide?

Myself, I couldn't decide :smallfrown:

[TFT]

Did it take you long to decide which option to choose?

Its not the fact of learning whether or not your indesicive, its something you should learn about yourself before...
No wait, that doesn't sound right.

Indesiciveness is a trait about yourself you should know...
Wait, not right either...

You should know whether or not your indesicive.

There, that sounds right.

^^^
(How I type a post)

[Oregano]

Well I'm going to be staying with family so I'll steal their internet and there's free wireless on the quay of the town I'm going to so It'll all be free for me.:smallbiggrin:

Damn, I am indecisive!

[dish]

Polls?
I thought the forum couldn't support them anymore.

I voted! :smallsmile:

[Ossian]

I support the "yes" answer:smallcool:

Stop being indecisive, people, and vote that you ARE indecisive. We are gaining ground on the 3rd option by the hour...

[Mercenary Pen]

But surely by saying, yes, you are indecisive, you demonstrate the fact that actually you aren't indecisive at all, and are merely pretending to be indecisive.

Vote Maybe!!! Demonstrate your indecisiveness through trumped up and ludicrous means for the entirety of the Giant in the playground community to see.

[EvilElitest]

are all of the bold words or at least some of them jokes? And forgive me, i normally don't do design threads, but what is the point of the thread, i'm confused


Also, he doesn't seem to have a unique avatar, through he has a unique title
from
EE

[Mercenary Pen]

Nope, the bold words in the first post do not appear to be jokes. You'll note the first post of the previous random banter topic had almost identical rules- also in bold.

[EvilElitest]

Nope, the bold words in the first post do not appear to be jokes. You'll note the first post of the previous random banter topic had almost identical rules- also in bold.


10. Every post should contain two visible, legible complete sentences, Subject and Predicate. C'mon, make your old English teachers proud.

really? Well i tend not to go onto random banter at all so alright
from
EE

[T'ze'hai]

I voted. I'm not indecisive. :smallbiggrin: If you would be really indecisive, you would not be able to vote. Maybe is still a decision in this case...

Anyway, now for something completely different...
Our street went from dry to absolutely possitivily overflowing wet in just a few minutes. I fear for all the people that were still outside. If they didn't drown, they should at least be soaking wet.

[Mercenary Pen]

Yes, but maybe is nonetheless a cop-out decision which allows those of us who are moderately indecisive to pretend that we haven't made a decision, whilst in fact making a decision to abstain from the definitive decision making process.

[YPU]

hm, i as under the asumption the giant himself would make RB 100, or is it the giant using a shared acount?

[Atreyu the Masked LLama]

Its VOTE! I've heard so much, but never actually met him. Wow. I heard that Rawhide had something special planned, but I never thought something like this would be it. He even brought a poll!

*Basks in the glow of VOTE's custom title, while sipping root beer margitas by the pool, and poking at Indurain with a badger on a stick.*

[Thufir]

Actually, responding to this poll, you don't decide which answer is correct, either you know, or you're uncertain (Which is not the same as being indecisive). The decision you make is whether to answer truthfully, or indeed, at all.

Am I the only one bothered by the fact the thread title does not appear to contain the words 'Random Banter #100'? Or does it contain them and my internet is just being weird at me?

[Jibar]

Okay, I'm going to be honest.
I kinda had no ideas for it.
So...

*BOOGIE! I guess*

This thread has been blessed...








I feel kinda bad now...

[Charity]

Funny really cos you look good enough to eat...

[Phase]

The thread has been blessed! I now feel it safe enough to enter! Nice surprise!

What kind of laptop is it, Oregano?

[Ego Slayer]

First thought was "Bah, what silly little Pixie resurrected a Poll thread." :smalltongue:

Wow. Just wow. Even Trash Cat would be amused.

@ Jibar: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5950/boogie8yq.gif

[Oregano]

It's a Toshiba, I'll check for the exact model later but I set it up before and it works fine and looks really good.

[SDF]

I think it's a trick. The title says neither 100 or banter in it!

[Wayril]

I think it's a trick. The title says neither 100 or banter in it!

Rawhide attempted to fix that in the second post, but apparently VOTE is more decisive and caused even the (random banter #100) to disappear promptly.

[CurlyKitGirl]

Originally posted by Serpentine
I just counted then, and I've got 6 books going at the moment, specifically Dracula, The Three Musketeers, Hogfather, The Eyre Affair, Chinese Love Stories, and Dragonmaster or something like that ('cept the last one's terrible so I'll probably give up on it) and at least a shelf worth of other ones I've been given or have acquired in the last couple of years that I haven't gotten around to reading yet, mostly legends and myths of various nationalities (I'm looking forward to the Aboriginal stories...).
Also: *jealouses*
*at both of you* :smallannoyed:


Read, read, read, no (anything about Jane Eyre - I'm guessing it's a different take?), no, no.
*is jealous over the myths and legends books*
I want those; I've read all of the Enchanted World ones and my Greek legends one a dozen times over.
Why the jealouses?

I loved the Three Musketeers (did take me two tries to get into it though) and I know at least three of the the sequels but hven't tracked them down yet. Curse the poor quality book shops around here!
But I don't mean it. My precious local shop that orders anything I want and has a complete collection of Pratchett, Feist and twice my heights worth of classic book. And has a wonderful offer fo its best customers. I love that shop to bits.:smallbiggrin:
By the by, you read Frankenstein, Phantom of the Opera or Notre Dame de Paris?

[The Vorpal Tribble]

It is actually a shared account, used by any moderator who runs a design contest to count the votes. *curses his bad luck at having no design contest participants awake at the time*
*grins*

It's been so long since we had one I'd forgotten actually.

[Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll]

Yay, a random banter thread that Isn't already seventy-two pages long by the time I get there.

[Phase]

By the by, you read Frankenstein?

I just finished reading that one! It was... different...

[Haruki-kun]

By the by, you read Frankenstein, Phantom of the Opera or Notre Dame de Paris?

I read Frankenstein about a year ago. In Spanish, though. 'Twas OK, but not my favorite, definitely.

[Oregano]

Woo, I'm on my laptop now, it's great, 17 inch widescreen as well.

I'm not sure how long the battery life is though, I'll have to wait and see.

[Skippy]

Wow, this new thread took me a bit to find. Then I remembered that we normal users can't make polls, so it caught my attention. And now I find Random Banter in disguise! Good one, Rawhide!

[Oregano]

Apparently, according to my laptop, this website's safer than hotmail.

By the way, it won't download MSN, even if I put the security to the lowest it can be, does anyone know why?

[CurlyKitGirl]

Mmm, Frankenstein was a bit strange and I think those four 'original horrors' are all uniquely different in a way.
One's a diary/thing; one's a report kind of thing and two are books.
*needs to read them again*

[Eldritch Knight]

Indesicive? No. Insane? Inane? Yes.

If your mind operates on a standard different from anyone else, how can you be measured on the same scale?

[Zakama]

Wow, I was pretty flippin sure it would be The Giant's. Bravo, Rawhide, for surprising us!

[RTGoodman]

@Ego: I thought the same thing! And then I got here and saw the poll was new and wondered how someone made one and was VERY confused. (I guess that's what I get for not reading people's usernames...)

Also, does this mean there'll be, you know, an official Design Contest sometime soon? That would be awesome...

[Rawhide]

I think it's a trick. The title says neither 100 or banter in it!


Rawhide attempted to fix that in the second post, but apparently VOTE is more decisive and caused even the (random banter #100) to disappear promptly.

Grrr. It did, but when I added a poll the title was snipped. Serves me right for trying to make you all a super special title :smallsigh:, no good deed goes unpunished. There, fixed.

[Player_Zero]

This poll needs more definite 'yes's... That's the only answer that makes no sense.

That combined with several other things makes me feel a bit like this...


http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9775/moodkr7.jpg

[CurlyKitGirl]

Hades from Hercules (Disney version)! I love that film despite numerous historical and mythical inaccuracies.
Bless my soul
Herc was on a role

[Player_Zero]

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8302/mood2ln4.jpg

...

[Groundhog]

I never got to see that movie...Is it good?

[Thanatos 51-50]

In a word: No.

Butr I like my historical and mythological accuracis, so I'm not really the best person to ask about that.
I guess, if you look past all that stuff, it could be moderatly enjoyable.

[Midnight Son]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/Dwarf71/Smileys/wtf.gif
Grrrrrawrrrr!!!

My stupid company blocked GITP.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/Dwarf71/Smileys/banghead.gif http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/Dwarf71/Smileys/cry.gif http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/Dwarf71/Smileys/headdesk1.gif http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/Dwarf71/Smileys/MadBlow.gif http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/Dwarf71/Smileys/rant.gif

[Burrito]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/Dwarf71/Smileys/wtf.gif
Grrrrrawrrrr!!!

My stupid company blocked GITP.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/Dwarf71/Smileys/banghead.gif http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/Dwarf71/Smileys/cry.gif http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/Dwarf71/Smileys/headdesk1.gif http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/Dwarf71/Smileys/MadBlow.gif http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/Dwarf71/Smileys/rant.gif

You just need to get some of the IT guys addicted to OOTS, then they will probably let it through as an exception.


I am married, therfore, I am told to change my mind several times a day, therefore, I am indecisive.

[Rawhide]

I should have been recording the results over multiple intervals, the percentages have been swinging quite wildly.

[Desidus]

haha wow, haven't seen Vote in forever (yes I know this is old news :( ).

And to let the record show, no is obviously the correct answer... well, I guess yes could be corr... or maybe.... UGH!

[SweetLikeLemons]

So, I voted Yes, but I am kind of rethinking that. Is there anyway to change my vote?

[Rockphed]

Yay! There is a poll again! Surely the redemption of the playground is nigh! Bring forth the fatted calf and let us feast upon it!

What do you mean we don't have any cows!? Surely we can use some other sort of calf. How about whale? Maybe Elephant? I have it! We will feast upon fatted llama calf! This is surely my best idea ever!

[Katonta]

Honestly people! Feasting on calves!? Why *pulls out wooden, crooked cane and leans upon it* in my day we didn't feast on them, we threw them into a volcano! And if we didn't have one, we made one out of cheese and threw that into the volcano! Of course, we'd all have to run away from the subsequent lava flow, but that was what happened when a lactose intolerant volcano was the closest thing to throw something into! :smalltongue:

[Player_Zero]

Luxury.

Back in my day we'd get up at 1AM and work down t'e mill for 23 hour a day for tupence a week and we'd come home and our father would kill us and dance on our graves.


Also,

In a word: No.

Woahwoahwoah. That movie was entertaining. Entertaining is for what movie are. I mean CRUSH ZEUS? Awesome.

[Amotis]

So, I voted Yes, but I am kind of rethinking that. Is there anyway to change my vote?

Hehe. *licks Lemons*

So I just got something really cool today. I bought my new amp (Fender Pro Reverb, 1980 Blackface) today and the guy threw in a free custom made guitar that he said he would never use. And I adore it. It's a 7-string electric with I think a bass neck to compensate for the seven strings and some decent open humbuckers. The best thing is that he never got around to finishing it and it's currently fretless. Totally neat. I'm gonna raise the bridge, throw some heavy gauges on them .12 or .13's, run it throw some heavy effects and sustain the hell out of it and then take a rosin'd cello bow to it, Jónsi or Page style! But fretless and seven strings! So excited about making noise with it.

Also, my friend just gave me a bag with like 50 pepperoncinis that she took from work and I'm eating them like there's no tomorrow. Mmm.

[Player_Zero]

Wait, you're eating peppers? On their own?

Congratulations on the guitar... I didn't understand much of the details, but what I got was 'you got a new guitar and you're going to do things to it which will be exciting'. :smalltongue:

[Dallas-Dakota]

Try red hot mexican chilli peppers on their own.:smallamused:

[Player_Zero]

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7689/pringledz0.jpg

...

...What is he hiding? ...Behind his cold, dead eyes...

[banjo1985]

...What is he hiding? ...Behind his cold, dead eyes...

The secret to enternal life, the key to faster than light space travel...where half used pencils go....everything.....for he is the Pringles man. :smalltongue:

[CurlyKitGirl]

I never got to see that movie...Is it good?

Firstly, suspend every fact you know about ancient Greece, its history and mythology. That done, watch the film.
It's very good as entertainment and the songs are really good. After all, a film's primarily for fun and Hercules is nothing but fun.
I mean, Pegasus blows out Hades' hair-fire:
Hades: whoa, is my hair out?
If you want any kind of accuracy don't watch the film.

[Oregano]

I reckon it's more accurate than Kevin Sorbo Hercules.:smalltongue:

Now, to finish yesterday's comic!

[Player_Zero]

Why would you be looking for mythological accuracy in a Disney film anyway?

...It's not the best Disney film, mind you. There are some much better ones which you.

Aristocats for instance. 1970 film if I recall correctly.

Heh... And as such contains its share of racist. Remember the siamese cat? Yeah...

[Oregano]

The Sword in the Stone, Tron, Robin Hood, The Lion King. There's too many good Disney movies. darnit!

@V: Nightmare Fuel.

EDIT: Why aren't Disney Movies as good now?

[Player_Zero]

Also, want some nightmares?

Then watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnfCFxvI9fQ).


And whenever they catch you... They will kill you.


...The field! It's covered in... Blood!

[CurlyKitGirl]

Why would you be looking for mythological accuracy in a Disney film anyway?

...It's not the best Disney film, mind you. There are some much better ones which you.

Aristocats for instance. 1970 film if I recall correctly.

Heh... And as such contains its share of racist. Remember the siamese cat? Yeah...

I love Zee Areestocrats. Ver' cool; but on the topic of racism/stereotypes let me quote lady and the Tramp:
Cats: We are Siamese if you please.
And all that very creepy song.

@Spiceboy: Disney's gone downhill because they've gone slapstick. What they need is the magic mix.
Mulan was a great film.
That waste of film Home on the Range was emphatically not.

@Zero: Watership Down is nightmare fuel. And the seagull swears. Before the watershed too!:smalleek: And the books great. Bigwig says 'Silflay hrakka' to General Woundwort! I use that sometimes too.

[Quincunx]

How did we get this far into a discussion of Disney high points without mentioning Lilo and Stitch and the strange looks I'm certain that more people than just me got when Lilo gave her reasons!

I doubt Aristocats is that old, unless it was re-released in theaters during my childhood. . .I'm not that old! (Evidence from my musical playlist to the contrary. . .)

[Oregano]

Indeed Mulan was awesome. I liked Alice in Wonderland as well.

They have gone down hill, although Kingdom Hearts is awesomeness, but that might be because of Sqaure Enix.

[Tempest Fennac]

I'd agree with you about Sqaure Enix being responsible (I didn't like KH2 at all, but the first game was really good). What's Chain of Memories like?

[Oregano]

I preferred the first one but the sequel was alright, I liked soem things int wo especially. Chain of Memories is alright, but it's not great, of course the remake that came with KH2 International(only available in Japan):smallannoyed:, was a full 3D remake for the PS2; it'd probably be awesome then especially with the Cloud summon.

[Player_Zero]

Chain of Memories was no The World Ends With You, if you ask me...

Aristocats is a 1970 film (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065421/)...

Lilo and Stitch was meh pour moi.

That concludes this Player_Zero update.

*Goes back to eating pasta.*

[Zakama]

I haven't seen any Disney movies for a looong time... Which is why my friend wants me to come over to her house and watch some with her.

[Rawhide]

Aristocats is a 1970 film (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065421/)...

It was however, re-released (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristocats#Theatrical_re-releases_and_home_video).

[CurlyKitGirl]

No Aristocrats was definitely in the 70s - actually, in 1970 on the dot. They did do a lot of theatrical re-releases though.
Lilo and Stitch was another good one. That Aloha song when Lilo and Nani're on the hammock sometimes brings a tear to my eye.
While we're on the subjet The Emperor's New Groove was another surprisingly good one. It seems just to be more of a parody/deconstruction with much breaking of forth walls.

[Oregano]

It helps David Spade is hilarious.:smallbiggrin:

Kingdom Hearts is awesome simply because Mickey is badass, and then there's all the other stuff.

[Tempest Fennac]

Was it ever explained why Mickey didn't tell Sora what was going on the first time they met in KH2? It would have made more sense then him dodging you for half the game.

[Oregano]

Hmm, I can't remember, it's been ages since I played KH2, I think it's cool that fi you die at some points you jump in as Mickey, unfortunately I never got to do that because the games so easy.:smallannoyed:

[Tempest Fennac]

That happened 3 times with me on the Beast's Castle boss. Mickey only managed to revive sora successfully once (I think if he gets knocked out twice without reviving Sora, he stops coming back for that fight.) The last boss was awkward as well (it would have been better if they hadn;t nerfed Cure to such a ridiculous degree).

[Phase]

What, do Pixar films no longer count as Disney movies? I think they should, although I wish Disney hadn't bought them. But Pixar has yet to make a movie that can't be described as "Fantastic"!

[Oregano]

I thought the last boss battle was really easy except when he grabs Sora and you play Riku for like 5 seconds where you need to save him.

The only time I couldn't do continue with the fight was against the guy with the guitar thing where you have a really short time to kill all those things, that was annoying.

Maybe this conversation would be better for the Gaming forum, is it worth making a new thread?

EDIT: I don't really think the majority of Pixar films are fantastic, in fact only Toy Story really, I don't like Finding Nemo for the record(it was okay at some bits not so much at others).

[CurlyKitGirl]

One word: Cars.
Just . . . no. No, no, no, no, no on so many levels.

[Zakama]

One word: Cars.
Just . . . no. No, no, no, no, no on so many levels.

*twitch*
*twitch*

That movie... Why would you bring it up, Curly? :smalleek:

[CurlyKitGirl]

What, do Pixar films no longer count as Disney movies? I think they should, although I wish Disney hadn't bought them. But Pixar has yet to make a movie that can't be described as "Fantastic"!

That's why.
I, myself, try not to think of that thing either.
And now for something completely different: non-Disney films as well.
Any good recommendations?

[Player_Zero]

Watership Down. :smalltongue:

...Hmmm...

*Checks collections.*

Well I can't help ya'. I'll I've got is Disney and Muppets.

...And Ghilbi I suppose... Yeah, watch some of them.

[Oregano]

Watch Howl's moving castle, simply because Howl's voiced by Batman and Calcifer's voiced by Miracle Max.

Fight Club's always great. In fact any Edward Norton film, they're more or less all great.

[Player_Zero]

Dubs? Pah. Subs all the way.

You like reading, right? Then you'll agree that subs are the better way to go. :smalltongue:

[Dallas-Dakota]

One word: Cars.
Just . . . no. No, no, no, no, no on so many levels.
I agree with you on so many levels there.......

[Cristo Meyers]

Fight Club's always great. In fact any Edward Norton film, they're more or less all great.

Most people that saw Death to Smoochy would disagree there.

I wouldn't, mind you, but my taste in movies is hardly indicative of the rest of the world. I can watch the Count of Monte Cristo without wanting to throw things at the TV, for example.

[Phase]

Duck soup! Oh, the Marx brothers...

[Oregano]

I saw the Spirited Away sub and the dub and couldn't really tell much difference, they were both good except the dub was easier to watch because I could afford to look away for a second.

And you can never go wrong with Christian Bale and Billy Crystal, plus Howl's meant to be welsh, just like Christian Bale.

Well all Edward Norton films except that one then Cristo and I didn't mind the film of the Count of Monte Cristo, but I'n not the type of person to complain about Adaption decay if it's entertaining.

[CurlyKitGirl]

Subs all the way. And I've seen most Ghibli films.
Fight Club - no. It's supposedly a very strange film and I don't fancy watching men pound each other bloody for three hours straight.

[Dallas-Dakota]

There are better things to do, like reading...

[Oregano]

That isn't what happens in most of Fight Club, in fact the actual fightings short and mostly background and it's not strange, it's phillisophical, well I think it is. It's also better than the novel it's based on, even the author agrees.

[Dallas-Dakota]

Yet they still call it fight club...:smallconfused:

[Charity]

Curly if you havn't already, watch Life is beautiful, the outlaw Josey Wales, Bladerunner, and the princess bride of course.

Brazil is quite a weird film, worth watching... heck El topo (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067866/) is a very weird film that should be seen.

[Cristo Meyers]

He's right. The actually fighting part isn't a very large part of the movie, it's more of a background element.

Try Life as a House (Hayden Christensen's one shining moment), The Crow, Bram Stoker's Dracula (Anthony Hopkins as Van Helsing is enough to overlook the glaring changes).

[Oregano]

Yes because that's the background to the film but it turns into a lot more, you should really watch it to understand. There's some funny moments though that might be lost on some people.

It is ultimately about philosophy(finally I've spelt it right I think).

[Player_Zero]

Think I'll have a nappee wappee... Maybe wake up later and eat some eggie weggies...

Another lazy day in the life of Player_Zero... Still haven't done anything productive with the holiday...

Oh hey! If you haven't seen A Clockwork Orange yet you could watch that. :smalltongue:

Heh... I read that book when I was but a lad. Funny stuff.

[Charity]

Fight Club is an OK film with a predictable twist IMO.

The Wild Bunch, is another under rated classic definately worth seeing...

[Cristo Meyers]

Interview with the Vampire was another good one. Tom Cruise plays Lestat so well.

"Louis, Louis, Louis, still whining... Are you finished? I've had to listen to this for centuries."

[Oregano]

Oh yes, that's a great film but Queen of the Damned is just awful and the guy who played Lestat can't act properly.

Apocolypse now's a great film.

[Cristo Meyers]

Stuart Townsend. He's actually a decent enough actor, but you can only do so much with that movie...

[Skippy]

Stuart Townsend. He's actually a decent enough actor, but you can only do so much with that movie...

No, he's not. He's... not bad. But he isn't a decent actor. All his work (or at least what I've seen of him) is mediocre at best...

[Oregano]

It really says something when Aaliyah outshun him but in my opinion Vincent Perez was the best in the film and Marius was probably the best character.

[Cristo Meyers]

What can I say? I've got low standards. It helps stave off disappointment.

[CurlyKitGirl]

@DD: All I do is read. I read, I internet (which involves reading), I take the dogs out, I read. I think last thread I posted an accurate description of WHat I Do In Summer where it was read, X, read, Y and so on.
I'm a bibliophile with a mere one thousand books in her personal library, all of which have been read a minimum of three times each. In some memorable fits of ennui I've even read a series back to front starting wih the final word of the final book and reading all the way to the first word of the first book.
Seriously; when people say When You Think Of [Curly's real name] What Do You Think all people bar one say: oh, she reads a lot/books/intelligent because she reads books etc.
The exception says: 'My best friend who just happens to believe many of the same things I do; hmm, I really need to write to her again.'

Princess Bride - seen it, none of the others though.

[Dallas-Dakota]

Curly has no hobbies that involve A gaming B being outside C sports D Not reading then? :smallconfused: Oh well, books are great.

Read while you are cycling, it's fun! Well I shouldn't advice it, since it's kinda dangerous to your book and you if you fall and requires dedication on multitasking between not crashing and yoru book.

And ohyeah, 1000 books pic, or it didn't happen.:smalltongue:

[Zakama]

I hardly read anymore... It's kinda sad really. :smallfrown:

[Cristo Meyers]

I should start reading again. My Dresden Files books are feeling neglected.


'Course, I've been neglecting pretty much everything recently, so at least it's consistent.

[CurlyKitGirl]

And ohyeah, 1000 books pic, or it didn't happen.:smalltongue:

a) I don't game - no gamers around and no consoles.
b) I do. Taking dogs out. Swimmin' - in warm weather. ALso known as reading at the beach
c) Sports are evil. I don't mind cracking people's shins in hockey or rounders, but sports are evil.
d) Nearly everything in life involves reading.

I haven't ridden a bike since I was seven.
And I have no camera and all my books are in five boxes under y bed, double or triple stacked on my bookshelf, on my sisters' bookshelf (still mine though), in three boxes by the window, thirty stacked precariously on top of my bookshelf, living in my parents' bookshelf, in my brothers' bookshelf, and some I've only adopted.
I could list all the books I have, but it'd take too long and some are doing the family rounds.

[dish]

....I could list all the books I have, but it'd take too long and some are doing the family rounds.

Do it, do it, do it. It sounds fun. Make a thread in Media and give us your list in manageable bits (maybe ten at a time?) Then your fellow bibilophiles can comment / review / discuss / make and receive recommendations.

Which reminds me:

...In some memorable fits of ennui I've even read a series back to front starting wih the final word of the final book and reading all the way to the first word of the first book...

This brings to mind 'The Poisonwood Bible' by Barbara Kingsolver - if you've read it you'll probably know why.

[CurlyKitGirl]

Nope, but it's on my evergrowing list of Books To Buy Or Read - currently at seventy four.
:smallsigh:
I need to be a millionaire.

[Cristo Meyers]

If it makes you feel any better, I'll send you a copy of my book for free. :smalltongue:

...you know, when it gets published an' all...

...Anyone got any C4? I find that when dealing with a burnout caused writer's block high explosives are needed.

[dish]

I need to be a millionaire.

Don't we all. One of my recurrent dreams is to be able to walk into a big bookshop (like the Waterstones on the Strand) and buy one copy of every single book they possess to take home. :smallsigh:

Anyway, go on and:
a) make us that thread
b) move 'The Poisonwood Bible' to the top of your 'to-read/buy' list. (You will love it.)

[rubakhin]

Hrm, Poisonwood Bible - I'm surprised at how well I remember that book. I read it when I was like twelve. (I remember getting into an argument with a stupider classmate that no, I did not watch Oprah or care about her book club, it's not my fault the book has her insipid logo feces all over the cover.)

WHY IS IT NINETY DEGREES OUTSIDE? Moreover, why haven't I stolen an air conditioner yet? *dying* :smallfurious:

[Lyesmith]

Ah, it's all rainy here.
To alleviate the boredom, we have done the saddest thing ever.
I changed my MSN display name to "James", as well as my display picture. Teamed up with two freinds (Jessie and Meowth, respectively), then invited people to big MSN conversations, done the whole "Prepare for trouble" rhyme, and vanished.

I have not laughed so hard in a long time.

[Oregano]

That does sound like you must be bored. Sounds fun though.:smallsmile:

I'm just on msn talking to one of my friends and trying to draw tomorrows short for my comic, it's hard for me to be creative sometimes.:smallsigh:

You know who does a decent american accent? Simon Pegg.

I'm bored if you can't tell.:smalltongue:

[CurlyKitGirl]

Boooooored also. But whenever I go to phone Best Friend I'm always interrupted by parents, errands, Littlest Brother, TV shows or something else. I'm this close | | to banging my head against the wall. Already attacked the laptop with my head after all.
Perhaps I should change my avvie again?

[Phase]

Bored as well. I already played through Portal like a billion times. There isn't anything good on the TV. All my other good games don't work for Vista(:smallyuk:). And the sims have gotten boring...

[Player_Zero]

Don't we all.

Ummm... I don't.

That'd be far too much money... I'd never need that much.

Let's see... What I would like to buy in the world now...
A phone, T.V., MP3 player, some new clothes...
Ummm...
A takeway...
...That's about it, I think. Comes to maybe about £1,000. Could you really spend one million? :smallconfused:

Wouldn't you feel guilty about it if you did anyway?

[Phase]

I'm going on an amber dig tommorow! Wheee!

I have a trowel. :smallcool:

[Oregano]

Sounds good Phase, hope you have fun with it.

I've not doing anything tomorrow so hopefully I can build up a buffer for my comic again.

the fact that I'm trying to give each strip and short a snazzy title's seeming problematic.

[Cristo Meyers]

Sounds like what I did for my werewolf game, trying to come up with one-liners for each player's death. There were a couple good ones ("...found that there can be no pacts between wolves and men" is one I'm particularly proud of), but others are downright terrible.

[Phase]

I've not doing anything tomorrow so hopefully I can build up a buffer for my comic again.

Something that I've found helps with building buffers, just do it at leisure. Don't set aside a specific time to make the comic, rather just relax and have some fun.

[dish]

... Could you really spend one million? :smallconfused:

Wouldn't you feel guilty about it if you did anyway?

Could I spend it? Oh, definitely. Once you grow up and have to afford your own home and living expenses life tends to get a lot more expensive.

Could I spend it all on books? Well, that's my fantasy. I suspect I could, but I'm hardly likely to be in a position to find out as this entire thing is pretty hypothetical.

Wouldn't I feel guilty about spending all that money on books? I could donate most of the books to school and community libraries in the developing world.

[Groundhog]

Hey, it's better to spend it now than to have your heirs fighting over it after you die. And you could live off the interest alone from 1 million, so you wouldn't actually have to feel guilty about spending any of it.

[Cristo Meyers]

Hey, it's better to spend it now than to have your heirs fighting over it after you die. And you could live off the interest alone from 1 million, so you wouldn't actually have to feel guilty about spending any of it.

Not quite, but it sure would make life easier.

It ain't "quit your job and live the easy life" money, more like "able to afford all kinds of cool toys" money.

I could probably very easily spend a mil on books. Whether I'd read them all is another story...

[Thufir]

Damnit, I need to get a job sometime so I get money I can spend without feeling guilty about it. And preferably also a bigger bedroom so I can fit in a wardrobe and more bookshelves.
Ah, well. Life is annoying like that. But on the bright side...

I'M ON DVDS!

Seriously, I have DVDs with me on them. It's really rather awesome.

[dish]

Seriously, I have DVDs with me on them. It's really rather awesome.

Home movies, or something more professional?

I got lost in the supermarket. The little one downstairs from my residential area. The one I go to nearly every day. (In my defence they had moved the washing up liquid.)
:smallsigh: My life is turning into a Clash song.

[Thufir]

Recordings of the university Gilbert & Sullivan Society productions this year.

It really annoys me that supermarkets always have to keep rearranging everything. I mean what good can it possibly do them?

[Player_Zero]

Hey, it's better to spend it now than to have your heirs fighting over it after you die. And you could live off the interest alone from 1 million, so you wouldn't actually have to feel guilty about spending any of it.

I'd feel guilty about owning that amount of money. There's people who need that amount of money, not just want it...

In short, I wouldn't want to keep it or spend it.

...

In other news: Why did the cat fall off of the roof?


Because it lost its μ!

[llamamushroom]

This is going back a bit, but how can good movies be discussed without the barest mention of the greatest movie ever? Haven't any of you seen Saved!?

More on-topic: I used to find myself getting really bored during holidays, until I discovered the wonders of (a) long-lasting series (Stargate especially), (b) a slightly obsessive personality (I watched Saved! 10 times in two weeks) and most importantly (c) Supernatural. Awesomest show ever on TV. And as much as I support the writers and their descision to go on strike, couldn't they have waited until they'd written all of season 3? :smallwink:

[SquirrelKing]

Same could be said of badgers. *nods

Oh, and they forgot Dastardly, Derisive, and, 'course, Delicious.

[Thufir]

IIRC, the word after Desultory is Derision. Unfortunately the end of the thread title seems to have disappeared again.

[SquirrelKing]

Ah, well, very good then. Carry on! (Silly title character limits.) And I just realized that a previous RB thread contained Dastardly, though I did not detect Delicious anywhere. However, it's entirely possible that I went selectively blind.

[Player_Zero]

And now, for something completely different:

USOPP...

NOISE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF-HGu8bQjI)

[Em Blackleaf]

And now, for something completely different:

USOPP...

NOISE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF-HGu8bQjI)
:confused:

I need to be a millionaire
Me too.
It's a good thing there's a new/used/discount bookstore in town, or else my booklist would cost even more. :smallsigh:

[Player_Zero]

:confused:

USOPP!! SPELL!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjJ711786Uk&feature=related)

[Em Blackleaf]

That totally makes more sense. :smalltongue:
I've never watched One Piece...

Also, what's your counter counting?

[Player_Zero]

Sore wa... Hi-mi-tsu desu.

http://bonklers.net/pics/pics1/xellos.jpg

[dish]

Also, what's your counter counting?

Don't ask him. He'll just tease tease tease. He's happy when we're on our knees.

[Semidi]

Yeah... See, I go to the library and get books. I really only buy things I would want to read repeatedly or reference.

But that doesn't mean that the list of books I want isn't really long...

[Em Blackleaf]

Don't ask him. He'll just tease tease tease. He's happy when we're on our knees.
Got it.
So, I'll stop asking questions now. Because I seem to end up more confused than before...

[Player_Zero]

Got it.
So, I'll stop asking questions now. Because I seem to end up more confused than before...

It's for the best, the best, the best, the best of you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DKXGpMGY_o).

P.S. It's good to dare to be stupid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKqboQV_lfg).

[llamamushroom]

I think I speak for everybody here when I ask:

What the devil are you on about?

[Player_Zero]

I don't even know anymore...

So... How is everyone?

[Tempest Fennac]

I'm fine thanks. I'm having a few problems with learning how to drive, though (the way my eyes work appears to be having a negative effect on my steering). I just hope that I'm able to pass before I start at university in September. How are you?

[SquirrelKing]

Rather well, thanks! I'll be much better when I go out to play tennis tomorrow morning, however! I didn't get to play today thanks to work. Ratsa fratsa responsibilities! :smallamused:

[Zeb The Troll]

ow.

ow ow ow ow ow.

So today, first full day back home since the loverly nuptials, we went and picked up the dog from my son-in-law's mother's place. She was really excited to see us and it was great. We get her home and she's very excited to check out all the fun new stuff we brought back.

Then my fun begins. I'm taking her dog food bin down the stairs into the basement to put it away when Skylar, the cat, decides he needs to be downstairs with me too. He skitters under my left foot about the time I'm ready to hit the fourth step from the top.

Down I go. All the way to the bottom. Arse over tea kettle the whole way. I finally end up at the bottom of the stairs with my face landing first in the dog food bin, thankfully, else it would have been my noggin versus the concrete floor and that wouldn't have been pretty.

I'm lucky I was carrying the food or I'd have busted my head wide open, I'm sure. But man, my left side is sore right now. And that happened about 12 hours ago. I even had to take Alarra's car to work tonight because I couldn't bend my left leg far enough to ride my bike and I sure as hell wasn't going to be able to drive my car, which would have required much downtown clutching, a sure no-go with a bum left knee.

ow.

[Player_Zero]

I'm okay...

I should start sleeping more regularly though...

Still don't know how I'm gonna' make it to University myself... I don't think I did that well in my exams... Sorta' kinda' did hopelessly...

[SquirrelKing]

ow.

ow ow ow ow ow.

*snip*

ow.

Running through Skylar's mind: "That'll teach 'im for being away so long."

[Tempest Fennac]

That sounds painful, Zeb. Have you had it checked out yet? Knowing what cats are like, that's probably accurate, SquirrelKing. Do you have a back-up plan, Player_Zero?

[Player_Zero]

Well, I could always find a really tall building.

...No. No backup.

[Tempest Fennac]

Drat. If you're not confidant about getting into university, I'd strongly recommend that you start looking at an alternative as soon as possible (could you get in at a university with less strick prequisites through clearing?)

[Player_Zero]

Could do. That doesn't mean I want to... I'd rather go to a better university since I consider myself able in my academic abilities...

...Well, not so much being a good student as being intelligent... And not so much intelligent as being good at maths...

I would believe that it'd turn out alright in the end, but I can never look on the bright side when it comes to things that personally affect me.

...And not that it matters when weighed in against anyone else's problems for that matter.

[Tempest Fennac]

I hope everything turns out well. If your grades aren't good enough, can you retake the A Level which you did poorly on at college again?

[Midnight Son]

ow.

ow ow ow ow ow.

(and so on)Gives Zeb a Percocet and a full body pillow to cushion his poor bruised body.

I finally found a group to play D&D with here in Utah. Just had our first session of 4E. I'm da rogue. :smallamused:

[Player_Zero]

I still haven't even read the rules on 4th Ed... You use powers or some such... That's about all I know.


I hope everything turns out well. If your grades aren't good enough, can you retake the A Level which you did poorly on at college again?
I wouldn't.

I shall never go back to that thrice-damned place.

It's not as though I'm looking at bad grade per se, it's just that I only applied to the better universities... I need AAB for my second choice university but I'm more likely to get AAC...

Which is pretty useless for me to be quite fair... The 'A's are from maths, see. The one subject at which I like to believe I'm good.

[Tempest Fennac]

AAC should still be able to get you into a descent university if your grades aren't good enough for the ones you applied for (I'm a bit like that with not wanting anything else to do with the schools which I went to).

[Rockphed]

Gives Zeb a Percocet and a full body pillow to cushion his poor bruised body.

I finally found a group to play D&D with here in Utah. Just had our first session of 4E. I'm da rogue. :smallamused:

Speaking of our lovely thieves, where is I'm da Rogue? Am I just out of the loop, or has she gone missing?

And Zeb, you really should be more careful. We wouldn't want anything bad to happen to you causing our lovely Pudding Goddess to turn into a Death Pudding Goddess.

Also, I just woke up my parents by burning a one-eyed-jack. Fortunately I was able to convince them that my only reason for being awake was food.

[Tempest Fennac]

Were you up for a reason other thern wanting food? I think Rogue's just been busy with her university studies lately.

[Rockphed]

What is a one-eyed-jack exactly?

Take a slice of bread, I find that light fluffy ones work best. Take a cup with a diameter about a centimeter less than the shortest dimension of the bread. Apply cup to middle of bread so that a circular hole is cut in the bread. Eat the stuff you just removed from the hole. Now, put the bread in a hot frying pan that won't stick. Crack and egg into the hole in the bread. Cook until the egg is properly cooked.

Does that answer your question?

[Tempest Fennac]

It does thanks.:smallsmile:I looked it up on Wikipedia when I first asked the question, but it didn't go into as much detail as you did.

[Rawhide]

:sigh:

I've made the title shorter to fit. I don't want it to keep reverting back and I don't know why it does that. Hopefully you will all remember it as the much longer title.

[Zeb The Troll]

Running through Skylar's mind: "That'll teach 'im for being away so long."Heh, that's probably true. He made it quite clear that he was upset with us for that.

That sounds painful, Zeb. Have you had it checked out yet?No. I'm pretty sure it's just going to be bruises. If it gets worse instead of better as the days go by I'll get it looked at.

[Alarra]

Yeah, poor dear scared the crap out of me with the banging and crashing and moaning. I don't think he did anything serious though, just going to be rather heavily bruised. It was fun to take care of him all afternoon though. *Sky mews apologetically from his throne*

[dish]

Zeb, that sounds rather painful - and sadly bruising can last for a long time.

The kitten tried to stop herself falling off my lap earlier today - by sticking her claws straight into my thigh. She failed, and thus left me with seven painful scratches. It's not quite in your league, but I'm afraid that us cat-owners have to accept that there will be pain involved.

Cats - nature's sadists.
Cat-owners - masochistic tendencies.

[Serpentine]

Who makes awesome dinners? That's right, I make awesome dinners :smallcool:
Tonight's delicacy: Small whole bream steamed with spring onions, soy sauce, garlic and ginger served with white rice. Also a carrot.
P=

Oh yeah, poor Zeb, cats are mean, blah blah blah...

:smalltongue:

[CurlyKitGirl]

:smallannoyed:
I have an interview today - for a job.
At 4:20.
And it's absolutely bucketing it down. And going to get worse. Mum' also told me the air is practically solid.
And as I have no hooded coat; the umberella was turned inside out by the wind, and mum got the only other (light) hooded coat I could wear wet through I'm reduced to wearing a thick winter coat that feels like it's five inches thick.
I also wanted to go town and you know, do some shopping. Or at least read through some books I want.

Cats are definitely evil; but cute and fluffy too. Yesterday she managed to climb up my back as I was walking down the stairs. She then leapt up over the bannister of the upstairs corridor from my head. Leaving nice pits in my skull where she dug in.
And she's nine (or ten) years old!
Still wouldn't want to live without her. Little hellion that she is.

[dish]

I'm thinking about what I'll need to pack for my trip back to the UK next week. So...you recommend a jacket? (And an umbrella!)

[CurlyKitGirl]

Very much yes.
But light jackets or you'll die of heat. Wait . . . take jackets.
But watch out for pschotic weather so take some summer stuff too.

[Gem Flower]

.....Cats? Cats are awesome, but I have KITTENS! De-clawed kittens.:smallbiggrin: Heh heh, the last time we took them to a vet, we put them in boxes, and my brother and I had these heavy leather gloves...:smalltongue: Good times.

[dish]

I have clawed kittens. And the gashes to prove it.

[Dallas-Dakota]

Don't have kittens or cats.

Cat-muffins would be way better though:smallbiggrin:

[Player_Zero]

Yeah, but the thing is that they don't actually exist.

Cute cats are cute.

[Phase]

I'm alegic to cats, and don't like them that much regardless. Either way, I like them beter than dogs. :smallannoyed:

Anyway, I was supposed to go on an amber dig today, and woke up extra early to go to the meetup point. Turns out, my mom gave me the wrong date, now I'm going tommorrow, not today, and I sat in the sun for a little under an hour before I thought to double check the date. Needless to say, I'm cheesed. :smallmad:

[Dallas-Dakota]

Yeah, but the thing is that they don't actually exist.
Wait, what you say?

NOOOOOOOO, you liar!:smallmad:

[Player_Zero]

No, really, it's a harp.

http://www.templeinstitute.org/vessel_images/lyre.jpg

[Atreyu the Masked LLama]

ARRGHH! Pun damage!!

[Player_Zero]

Heh.

Well at least someone got this one. :smalltongue:

[Lyesmith]

I had a fun 6th form day today!
It's pretty good, i think.
I am going to be utterly awesome at Sociology and English. Psychology is a maybe (I tend to do best if i get along with the teacher, and we have a mystery man for Psych next year, so can't be sure.), but will probably be fine. I has the smarts!

Human Biology should also be good, but i'm a little apprehensive.

[Tempest Fennac]

Sociology and Psychology are both really interesting subjects. Why are you apprehensive about Human Biology?

[dish]

Why am I totally knackered when all I did today was defrost a fridge and cuddle cats?
It could be the 38 degree temperature, but...that's why ceiling cat invented air-con.

:smallsigh: What a drag it is getting old.

[Player_Zero]

Kitties are tiring.

Mine often wakes me up in the middle of the day because she's wonewy.

...D'Aww... Kitties...

[dish]

Ok, that's interesting. You only respond to very specific Rolling Stones references. (That or you're just ignoring them.)

[Player_Zero]

Well, we could just exchange song lyrics for a time, but I'd rather talk about cats. :smalltongue:

...Kids are different today, see. They like talking about cats.

[dish]

I smell google. But then, I had to google Aerosmith's Cryin (since the only Aerosmith I know is due to RunDMC).

Ho hum.
My cats are called:
XiXi (pronounced 'she she' - it's Chinese for 'peace')
Nermal
Tigger-kitty Tigerlily (mostly known as 'Tigger')
Rupert
Cinnamon
Xiao Fen (means 'little phoenix')
Marmalade
Ming Xing (means 'superstar')
Tabby
Xiao Qiao (don't ask)
Mei Gui Hua (means 'Rose')
Mama Cat
Pinstripe
Raggie
Mohawk
NaoNao (means 'noisy')
Santana

[Hoggy]

But ye have no Da Qiao...

[dish]

We used to have a Cao Cao you see...
(Reference to 'The Three Kingdoms')

[Cristo Meyers]

Was he a brutal, iron-pawed tyrant?

[dish]

No, he was a lovely little boy. And I'm still cut up that he disappeared.

CaoCao: brutal tyrant or misunderstood genius?

[Cristo Meyers]

Depends on who you ask. Some think Liu Bei is supposed to be the good guy (that whole "man of the people" thing), others Cao Cao (he was the rightful ruler).

Most everyone agrees that Sun Jian and his kin are pretty much supposed to be looked down upon, though.

[dish]

Well, I've always had a soft spot for Cao Cao (although it was my husband who named the cats). Oh, and Zhugeliang - he's the best.

[Player_Zero]

My cat is called Tiger. She is tiger striped. She is also older than me...


Do you know a story that goes like this...
There once was a Tiger-Shaped Cat. This cat died a million deaths and was reborn a million times. He was owned by various people who he didn't care for....

The cat wasn't afraid to die...

One Day, The cat was a free cat, A Stray Cat. He met a white female cat, and the two cats spent their days happily together....

Years passed by and the white cat die of old age. The tiger-striped cat cried a million times, and then died. It never came back alive...

[CurlyKitGirl]

:smallannoyed: Back from my job interview and I have a nice long moan to begin.
Moan The First:
I actually decided to buy my first new item of clothing in over a year today. A pair of jeans. So I went Peacocks (armed with my £20 worth of vouchers) and started looking around. And noticed something. Sure, they all fit around up top; but I'm a shrimp.
So they're all too long in the leg. By many inches. About six. Even if I stand on tiptoes they still scrape along the ground.
I check out the whole half a rack of sizes with short leg thingies. And they're not in my size.
So what I have now is the best fitting pair in the shop - six inches too long in the leg. At least they're unembellished.
Oh, and I bought a lovely pair of earrings (my one feminine weakness).
Moan The Second:
Okay, my bibliophiliac desires are too great. Today alone I added sixteen books to my Wanted List. Bringing my total of books to buy to a grand 103. And that's just in my two local book shops and seven charity shops. Jeeze! Some of the books on my list are: Lian Hearns' faux Japan series; a lot of Austen books; Milton's Paradise Lost; Dante's Divine COmedy; four Feist books; the complete TRC/xxxHolic; Robin Hobb; Twenty Years Later and The Man in the Iron Mask (the after Musketeers books) and many more. Yet I can't afford them. So I can't buy any of them. *sigh*

Fleepin' Enormous Moan The Third:
Public transport.
That shoul say it all, but let me elaborate in detail my distaste and effective paranoia.
In a car or plane you can go from A to Z nonstop. So sleeping and being ditracted is permitted, nay encouraged (providing you're not driving). Transport via bus to school/college is the same. They stop along the way but terminate at the common destination.
I like, no, love being distracted and/or sleeping. Especially as I suffer from insomnia and am a natural night creature so napping is well . . . welcomed. So, let's move onto things like local buses.
They're not so bad. Seeing as I nearly always (read 99.9% of the time) get off at the town centre there's one stop after that - the bus station. ABout one minute away from the town centre. All well and good. Except for the two buses who do the summer tourist route or ones I seldom catch. I have to make absolutely certain they get off at my stop even though I know they stop there. Hell, this's the same for my two common buses. Paranoia at work. And those summer buses. One's an open top. It runs every day in summer.
Even today. But it's only four minutes from town to my home. So I get on. ANd it's like a fleepin' swimming pool in there. Literally. And the heavy rain comes down the stairwell so you get rained on inside, have to take a shower to get off the bus and risk going waterskiiing to get off.
Now for the buses to other towns and trains. They're meant to allow occasional sleep. But if I'm that paranoid about my local town imagine how worried I am about those buses (and especially trains). I can't relax and get seriously nervous within two stops of my stop in case I miss it or the driver won't stop for me. Trains.
Trains scare me. What if I miss my stop. Tjere'll be ten, twenty, a hunderd miles until the next one. And if you miss it you can't run up to the driver and say 'I've missed my stop could you let me off here please?' can you? You sit down in a cold sweat panicking about what to do. Especially if, like me, you don't have a mobile or the person you're going to meet doesn't have one.
And you have to spend even more money to get back to your stop. And wait for ages. Unless you have a kind conductor, paying is obligatory. And what if you get on at one end of the line to go to a place you've never been before and your friend, who gets on at another stop doesn't catch the train? Or did but couldn't find you so is on another carriage? What do you do? Hang around the train station for the next train? Wait at the station until tme to go home?
Trains (and occasionally buses) send me into a nervous nervous panic. Yet I still have to catch them to get to places.
I mean, if I panic like mad getting on a bus into town (when I know for a fact that every bus in the district goes into the bus station imagine how awful that feels leaving town.
I hate public transport so much.

[Player_Zero]

Public transport is The Devil, yes.

What annoys me is that other people are allowed to use it.

...And there's always a bunch of w*nkers on the back seats playing rap music on their phones, too.

[dish]

Curly: I once ended up at the wrong airport in Tokyo (Naurita rather than Haneda), took an airport bus to the right airport, missed my flight, and was stranded with only 20US$ left in the whole world. Went to a bank in the airport to change the dollars - and they would only accept two of them (since the others were 'too old' for their machines to check). Oh, have I mentioned that I don't speak a word of Japanese?

You know what? It all worked out ok in the end. (I've been vaguely intending to write this story out for the 'hope' thread, because the ending is seriously cheesy.) You have got to relax and let life take you on its journey. If you miss your stop it's probably for a reason, and - trust me - good things will happen.

Player_Zero: I think I might enjoy Cowboy Bebop. If I come to Nottingham will you lend me the DVD?

Here's a story:
Once a lion fell in love with a marmoset. Unfortunately, their difference in size was causing far too many problems, so he went to see the Goddess of Mercy.
"Dear Goddess," the lion cried, "please shrink me to the size of a marmoset. But if you will, leave me with my most prized trait - my courage."
The Goddess was touched, so she shrank the lion, but left him with his courageous heart, and the result is now know as the Pekingnese dog.

[Player_Zero]

I don't exist, if you'll recall. How can I lend a DVD?

Also, I hereby declare it storytime!

...Cool... Raining...

[CurlyKitGirl]

I used to have two cats. A Tom and a girl - Jessie and Smudge respectively. Then we had six because Smudge and Jessie had kittens. Then we had two because we gave the kittens away. Now we have one because Jessie boy disappeared over eighteen months ago. :smallfrown:

I really don't like public transport very very much. And rap music is despicable.

[Dallas-Dakota]

I really don't like public transport very very much. And rap music is despicable.
Oh Curly!
Marry me?

[Player_Zero]

I said storytime, darnit!

*Links (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gYpLGxAetg) Watership Down again.* :smalltongue:

...Now... To find some stories to post...

...Hmm... I can't find any... Maybe I'll make one up. That might kill some time.

[dish]

I'd tell you a story if the server wasn't always so busy...

Oh, Curly and d-d, while it's not to my taste, would you believe that there is actually such a thing as intelligent rap? Even Eminem had a serious sense of humour.

Right, story time. Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin...

Thousands of years ago, after the evil emperor Qin Shi Huang united China he decided to build the Great Wall. This involved a lot of labour, so his soldiers were dispatched around the empire to round up all the available young me. One man, called Fan Qi Liang, ran away to hide from the conscription in a local landowner's garden. While hiding there, he was discovered by the owner's daughter: Meng Jiang Nü, and they fell in love.

Fan Qi Liang was so in love that he agreed to marry Meng Jiang Nü openly, but sadly, this was his downfall, as the soldiers crashed the wedding and carried him away on his wedding night. Meng Jiang Nü waited for him at home, but the seasons turned and turned without her hearing a single word.

Finally, in the depth of winter, Meng Jiang Nü went out in search of her husband. She took with her the winter clothes she had sewn for him, and journied to the Great Wall. When she got there, she travelled from construction camp to construction camp searching, but there was no sign of her lover.

Eventually Meng Jiang Nü broke down and sat on the wall sobbing. Her tears ran down and the section of the wall they touched collapsed, revealling the bones of hundreds of men who had died attempting to complete this massive project.

Meng Jiang Nü took a knife and cut her finger. Her blood dripped onto the lifeless skeletons until it was soaked up by one body. She knew this had to be her lover - Fan Qi Liang - and so she buried him. Then she climbed up to the highest part of the wall and threw herself to her death in a ravine below.

[Rockphed]

Fleepin' Enormous Moan The Third:
Public transport.
That shoul say it all, but let me elaborate in detail my distaste and effective paranoia.
In a car or plane you can go from A to Z nonstop. So sleeping and being ditracted is permitted, nay encouraged (providing you're not driving). Transport via bus to school/college is the same. They stop along the way but terminate at the common destination.
I like, no, love being distracted and/or sleeping. Especially as I suffer from insomnia and am a natural night creature so napping is well . . . welcomed. So, let's move onto things like local buses.
They're not so bad. Seeing as I nearly always (read 99.9% of the time) get off at the town centre there's one stop after that - the bus station. ABout one minute away from the town centre. All well and good. Except for the two buses who do the summer tourist route or ones I seldom catch. I have to make absolutely certain they get off at my stop even though I know they stop there. Hell, this's the same for my two common buses. Paranoia at work. And those summer buses. One's an open top. It runs every day in summer.
Even today. But it's only four minutes from town to my home. So I get on. ANd it's like a fleepin' swimming pool in there. Literally. And the heavy rain comes down the stairwell so you get rained on inside, have to take a shower to get off the bus and risk going waterskiiing to get off.
Now for the buses to other towns and trains. They're meant to allow occasional sleep. But if I'm that paranoid about my local town imagine how worried I am about those buses (and especially trains). I can't relax and get seriously nervous within two stops of my stop in case I miss it or the driver won't stop for me. Trains.
Trains scare me. What if I miss my stop. Tjere'll be ten, twenty, a hunderd miles until the next one. And if you miss it you can't run up to the driver and say 'I've missed my stop could you let me off here please?' can you? You sit down in a cold sweat panicking about what to do. Especially if, like me, you don't have a mobile or the person you're going to meet doesn't have one.
And you have to spend even more money to get back to your stop. And wait for ages. Unless you have a kind conductor, paying is obligatory. And what if you get on at one end of the line to go to a place you've never been before and your friend, who gets on at another stop doesn't catch the train? Or did but couldn't find you so is on another carriage? What do you do? Hang around the train station for the next train? Wait at the station until tme to go home?
Trains (and occasionally buses) send me into a nervous nervous panic. Yet I still have to catch them to get to places.
I mean, if I panic like mad getting on a bus into town (when I know for a fact that every bus in the district goes into the bus station imagine how awful that feels leaving town.
I hate public transport so much.

Do your buses at least run regularly? I spent 2 hours getting home from jury duty yesterday because the East<=>West bus only runs once an hour(compared to the North<=>South bus which runs often enough that it was playing leapfrog with itself.) A couple weeks ago, I ended up being late getting home because the 3:30 bus didn't run. Last winter, I waited for an hour, in the cold, for a bus, only to watch the bus I was transferring from go by again before the one I needed came up.

Although I have only ridden a train once, and then it was an extension of a bus line, you have my sympathy for the trains. They are slightly scary making.

[Eldpollard]

:smallannoyed: Back from my job interview and I have a nice long moan to begin.

Moan The Second:
Okay, my bibliophiliac desires are too great. Today alone I added sixteen books to my Wanted List. Bringing my total of books to buy to a grand 103. And that's just in my two local book shops and seven charity shops. Jeeze! Some of the books on my list are: Lian Hearns' faux Japan series; a lot of Austen books; Milton's Paradise Lost; Dante's Divine COmedy; four Feist books; the complete TRC/xxxHolic; Robin Hobb; Twenty Years Later and The Man in the Iron Mask (the after Musketeers books) and many more. Yet I can't afford them. So I can't buy any of them. *sigh*

.

With regards to books, and the buying thereof, there is always your local libraries. Free books is always good (unless you have overdue ones. Not me though, staff in my council's libraries don't pay fines.)
If anyone here is unlucky enough to live in Kirklees I offer my services as book fine remover man.

[Zakama]

My cats are called:
XiXi (pronounced 'she she' - it's Chinese for 'peace')


Umm... I'm pretty sure it's not spelled the same way, but the sound she she means pee pee (yes, pee pee, not just pee) in Korean.

[CurlyKitGirl]

Do your buses at least run regularly?
*snip*
Although I have only ridden a train once, and then it was an extension of a bus line, you have my sympathy for the trains. They are slightly scary making.

Yes.
Yes they do.

Trains are very scary and I have to catch one on Saturday.

[Phase]

Thousands of years ago, after the evil emperor Qin Shi Huang united China he decided to build the Great Wall. This involved a lot of labour, so his soldiers were dispatched around the empire to round up all the available young me. One man, called Fan Qi Liang, ran away to hide from the conscription in a local landowner's garden. While hiding there, he was discovered by the owner's daughter: Meng Jiang Nü, and they fell in love.

Fan Qi Liang was so in love that he agreed to marry Meng Jiang Nü openly, but sadly, this was his downfall, as the soldiers crashed the wedding and carried him away on his wedding night. Meng Jiang Nü waited for him at home, but the seasons turned and turned without her hearing a single word.

Finally, in the depth of winter, Meng Jiang Nü went out in search of her husband. She took with her the winter clothes she had sewn for him, and journied to the Great Wall. When she got there, she travelled from construction camp to construction camp searching, but there was no sign of her lover.

Eventually Meng Jiang Nü broke down and sat on the wall sobbing. Her tears ran down and the section of the wall they touched collapsed, revealling the bones of hundreds of men who had died attempting to complete this massive project.

Meng Jiang Nü took a knife and cut her finger. Her blood dripped onto the lifeless skeletons until it was soaked up by one body. She knew this had to be her lover - Fan Qi Liang - and so she buried him. Then she climbed up to the highest part of the wall and threw herself to her death in a ravine below.

Nice story, but there's no Genghis Khan in it, so it only gets four out of five.

[Player_Zero]

Sad story is sad...

*Gets to work on thinking one of his own...*

...Actually, I have one that might work... I'll just need to edit it a bit...

[Thufir]

I much prefer trains to buses, because the stations are labeled. On a bus, you have to know what your stop looks like, which isn't very helpful if you've never been there before. On a train, it generally gets announced, and there are signs.
Idiots playing music loudly is very annoying, but I don't encounter it very often. In fact more often the loud music is me and my choir friends singing...

[bosssmiley]

@dish: Yay for oriental happy endings!

cherry blossom fall, everyone dies :smallbiggrin:


Moan The Second:
Okay, my bibliophiliac desires are too great. Today alone I added sixteen books to my Wanted List.
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Twenty Years Later and The Man in the Iron Mask (the after Musketeers books) and many more. Yet I can't afford them. So I can't buy any of them. *sigh*

I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but bookcrossing.com (http://www.bookcrossing.com/). Send books into the wild to make new friends, find (or get sent) new booky friends. It is unalloyed goodness. :smallcool:

And, unless you're in Newcastle (best integrated transport system in the country) public transport does indeed suck and fail. It is a sad truth.

Unrelated: I should *never* go looking for 90s indie songs on YouTube.
I just end up depressing myself that I will never be that young, that floppy-haired, that thin, that idealistic, that resilient to hangovers/comedowns, or that excited by the limitless opportunities before me ever again.

D&D has it wrong (again): there are no beneficial aging penalties; they're nothing but unalloyed suck. :smallfrown:

[YPU]

Yay, i just ordered ‘american gods’ wasnt that expansive on my favoured web order site.
And for my moan of the day; game systems. I tend to collect them fore the pure knowledge of them. I must have read over a hundred pen and paper role-playing games. Also, I am a creative person. Now I am co-writing the rules system for a local larp and you should think I would be able to write a semi original rules set that would at least borrow from enough sourses so that things cant be recognized anymore. Not so it seems, I cant come up with anything that’s not more then skin deep different from the rules used by the larps I play in, damn that.

[Thufir]

And, unless you're in Newcastle (best integrated transport system in the country) public transport does indeed suck and fail. It is a sad truth.

Is it really the best in the country? Awesome.

[CurlyKitGirl]

I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but bookcrossing.com (http://www.bookcrossing.com/). Send books into the wild to make new friends, find (or get sent) new booky friends. It is unalloyed goodness. :smallcool:

And, unless you're in Newcastle (best integrated transport system in the country) public transport does indeed suck and fail. It is a sad truth.


D:
Shame though because I'm not signing up. But our college has a similar thing but on a college level size.
But from the sound of one of the threads I have Chronic Book Buying Syndrome (http://www.bookcrossing.com/forum/6/5519485) or at least am desparately fighting it. Oh well, might as well get on with it:
"Hi, I'm Curly and I've had CBB since I was eight, but it's escalated in the past three years. Currently I have to wrestle with my ever weakening concious (and wallet) to not buy anything.
I probably need help; but I have no wish to get it."
A thread should be set up to help the forumites who suffer from this.:smalltongue:

And our public transport doesn't suck but its quality is . . . undesirable.

[Player_Zero]

It's storytime! Here's a Player_Zero original. :smalltongue:

There once was a man of great skill of intruments; his mastery over the harp, the lute, the flute, over all instruments was known across the lands.

This man, in his travels, fell deeply in love with a maiden of supreme grace, who returned his affection. She, like him, was gifted with great musicial talent; through the forests and the greenlands of the world she was known for her splendourous voice and song. The couple adventured across the world, sharing their music with anyone willing to hear it. For years they travelled and searched for those to share their songs with, dazzling audiences and inspiring many heroes.

But the lives of man are but the twinkling of a thought and the echo of a dream, as the years past the man grew ill; growing to understand that he would eventually die, leaving his beloved behind and alone, and that no magic which he could wield would prevent this. The man sought out a wise seer, of whom it was said of that knew everything. The seer, after hearing of the tale, knew of only one solution, bitter-sweet as it was. The man heard the seer's words and knew it was the only way his love would endure his mortality.

The seer's words were thus: "No man can defeat fate, nor battle time. A human life cannot be extended past the will of the gods. However, the minds of all peoples are not so stalwart as time or fate. If you truly wish your love to not to suffer your demise then there is one alternate path. There exists a magic of memory, a magic which can change a man's heart and a magic to make a person forget."

The man went back to his love and held her one last time, playing one last lullaby for her, and then, though it broke his heart to do so, he departed forever from her. His love shed not a tear by the man's leaving, for his last sorrowful song to her caused her to forget him forever.


...

A man takes pride in his writing with a DON (http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Don)!

[Eldpollard]

D:
Shame though because I'm not signing up. But our college has a similar thing but on a college level size.
But from the sound of one of the threads I have Chronic Book Buying Syndrome (http://www.bookcrossing.com/forum/6/5519485) or at least am desparately fighting it. Oh well, might as well get on with it:
"Hi, I'm Curly and I've had CBB since I was eight, but it's escalated in the past three years. Currently I have to wrestle with my ever weakening concious (and wallet) to not buy anything.
I probably need help; but I have no wish to get it."
A thread should be set up to help the forumites who suffer from this.:smalltongue:

And our public transport doesn't suck but its quality is . . . undesirable.
Libraries can be a partial answer to CBB. Not full though. I work in them and I still keep buying them. I'm more of a chronic book borrower and never returning person.

[PhallicWarrior]

And now for a truly random question: I just got a big crate of those new Tiger Woods gatorade bottles, and I want to pick one for dance class tomorrow. Has anyone here tryed them, and if so, which one should I pick?

[CurlyKitGirl]

Libraries can be a partial answer to CBB. Not full though. I work in them and I still keep buying them. I'm more of a chronic book borrower and never returning person.

Ummm.
I've definitely ranted about this. My local library is awful to the point where I have more books than the fiction section in the actual library.
And I'm not going forty miles to the next library which isn't in the county's Hellhole.
Besides, I've been in there and it doesn't really impress me much. The books that are good are books I have or have read to death.

[Eldpollard]

That does indeed suck. Can't your library order in books from other libraries in the council though? There's usually only a nominal fee.

[CurlyKitGirl]

As a person suffering from acute CBB I vastly prefer to buy or mooch them off people I know.
Besides, two weeks (while being more than long enough for me to read a book) only whets my appetite for rereading it over and over.

[Phase]

That's a sad story, Player_Zero. I have one I just wrote as well:

Once upon a time there was a great lord. He spent his life in a greedy sort of way, ordering his serfs around, harrasing women, eating lavish amounts of food as the people starved, and generally spending his money on disgustingly obnoxious things. As a result, all the people of the land despised the lord.

On the eve of his forty-fifth birthday, the lord called his personal servant to his chamber. "It is my birthday," said the lord. "And I must know something. I have spent my life indulging myself to no end, but do the people still find me to be a benevolent ruler?" the servant, being a kind and gentle sort, and not wanting to do the lord wrong, answered truthfully. The lord sunk in despair and become sullen and deathly. He soon set out to perview his land, in order to get a confirmation of the feelings of the people.

He visited a small farm, disguised as a traveller, and begged the farmer and his wife to allow him in for something to eat. They offered him food and shelter for the night. As the lord was eating, he noticed that the farmer and his wife were not eating. "Why are you not eating, good people?" the lord asked. "Have you not worked youselves all day? You must be hungry." The farmer nodded. He explained that they were in the midst of a famine, and that they had spared what little food they had to aid him. The lord was touched, and he asked why the famine continued. "It is our lord." The farmer's wife began. "He indulges only in himself and allows us to starve! A curse upon his head!" The farmer and his wife spat on the ground. The lord was deep in thought.

The next morning, the lord thanked the farmer, and he set out. He came upon a blacksmith. The lord questioned him on his state. The blacksmith informed him of his position in the famine ravaged land. The lord listened intently, and became horrified. He offered to stay with the blacksmith for a short time to help. the blacksmith whole-heartedly accepted, and introduced the lord to his daughter. The lord saw the blacksmith's daughter, and immediately fell in love. In the following weeks, she grew to love him as well.

The lord then revealed his true identity to the blacksmith and his daughter. The blacksmith was outraged that his friend and helper for so long had in fact been the source of his troubles. He beat the lord, and threw him out into the road. The lord, bitter and angry, set back to his manor, hating the people of his land as much as, if not more than, they hated him.

Two alternate endings:

Counter-Storybook ending:
The lord, having not learned the error of his ways and continuing to be a greedy, bitter man, lived a life of luxury. He didn't care about what the people thought of him, he was happy. About a year later, he passed away in his sleep, being on the very edge of the conceivable longevity of feudal europe.

Realistic ending:
The lord, on returning home, realized the error of his ways. His love, the daughter's blacksmith, came to him and revealed her intent to marry after the lord had made good with the people. She kissed him, and left to await him in her home. He was about to organize an announcement to his vassals, when he began to feel ill. It started with a headache. Then chills and fever, which left him exhausted and prostrate. He began to vomit, feel back pains. The light of the sun was blocked from his chambers, as it caused him pain. He lay, pained in his bed, for two days when the swellings appeared. They were hard, painful, burning lumps on his neck, under his arms, on his inner thighs. Soon they turned black, split open, and began to ooze pus and blood. He bled internally. His every breath was pain beyond pain. It culminated in the fatal excersize, his blood vessels burst, his misery was extinguished, his room torched to eliminate contaminants. He had contracted the black death. Meanwhile, the blacksmith's daughter became ill. The disease spread. Over four million innocent people died across europe due to the lord's greed, though indirectly. Over two-thousand years later, two-thousand, four-hundred, and seventy years after the start of the common era, a peice of ice was exposed, revealing a remenant of that plague. The world, having been disease free for over one-hundred years, was ill-equipped to counter the plague, and it quickly extinguished of all mammalian life.

[Player_Zero]

Wait, what?


...They got the Black Death?


...What?

[CurlyKitGirl]

Yeah, that is a bit 'what the heck'. It sounds like you ran out of what to do and Killed 'em All.

[Player_Zero]

Well, in all fairness it was supposed to be in jest. Heh... A geste in jest...

It's still a bit odd though. :smalltongue:

[Phase]

Yeah, I just thought that, in Feudal Europe, in seems that one in five stories should end like this. It's statistics!

[Griever]

What's that saying...

85% of statistics are made up, just like this one!

[Player_Zero]

So, this is a democratic thread, who wants me to write another story? :smalltongue:

...I hunger. Time for noodles. And Goofy Time, too.

NOOOOOOOO!!! (http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u237/brokn68/noooooooo.jpg)

Out of noodles!

[Hoggy]

Okay, because I TOTALLY missed the Three Kingdoms discussion and that just WILL NOT DO:

Cao Cao - personally, I don't see him as much of a tyrant. Seems to have been, from my own learning, that he was a lot more leniant than other rulers of the time (coughcough Liu Bei, you crazy cannible you).

Zhuge Liang... do not get me started on this hack. he was an administrator, a talented one perhaps, but no strategist. He gets given credit for everyone else's victories in the SGZ to fit with the whole propaganda-theme of the whole book. Massively overrated, can't stand him.

On who was the right chap for the job - Liu Bei has heritage, but very little else. Was a shoemaker or whatnot before he got all his big ideas, which makes me wonder why, if he supposedly had imperial blood all along, he didn't just... y'know... use that angle from the start. The again, I don't like him and could be biased.

Cao Cao never went past Prime Minister in his lifetime, IIRC. He was named an Emperor post-humously by Cao Pi, although he certainly laid the foundation for the Wei dynasty. Seems like too much of an oppurtunist (and a damn good one at that) to argue that he was doing it for the good of the Han, apart from his early days (through to the collapse of the anti-Dong Zhou coalition).

Sun family... not a lot, really. Had the imperial seal, gave it away again. No claim, but doesn't stop me from liking them.

[Griever]

Don't suppose any of you have read The Lord of the Flies? Thinking about making a game based off it and could use some thoughts or suggestions.

[CurlyKitGirl]

Read it. Actively hate it - and it's one of the few books I actually hate.
The 1960something film was good.
the film made in the 1990s was universally detested by every single person in my year who saw it. They screwed with it so bad.
THERE WAS AN ADULT ON THE ISLAND!!!!!
THEY WERE ALL AMERICAN MILITARY BRATS!!!!!
FROM THE SAME DAMN SCHOOL!!!!!
Those three facts alone tell you how crappy a film that was.
Those three facts alone tell you how badly the Yanks (pardon my language) screwed with that book. The whole point of the book was that they came from different areas and backgrounds and were adultless. And the ensuing horror follows direct from that. It's not some kind of war between two opposing pre-established military factions.
*twitches solid for five minutes*
And I hate the book!
Imagine how someone who truly enjoys or even loves that book would feel.

[Cristo Meyers]

Only read the abridged version, so chances are you know something I don't. But here goes anyway.


Okay, because I TOTALLY missed the Three Kingdoms discussion and that just WILL NOT DO:

Cao Cao - personally, I don't see him as much of a tyrant. Seems to have been, from my own learning, that he was a lot more leniant than other rulers of the time (coughcough Liu Bei, you crazy cannible you).

Tyrant is a bit strong, but the man was pretty iron-fisted. He liked order and was a force for such. Bei was more a force for compassion (well...sometimes, anyway.)



Zhuge Liang... do not get me started on this hack. he was an administrator, a talented one perhaps, but no strategist. He gets given credit for everyone else's victories in the SGZ to fit with the whole propaganda-theme of the whole book. Massively overrated, can't stand him.

I never liked him much either. Though watching him and Zhou Yu go back and forth was a bit like watching a Wile E Coyote vs the Road Runner cartoon. It's probably my favorite part of the book.


On who was the right chap for the job - Liu Bei has heritage, but very little else. Was a shoemaker or whatnot before he got all his big ideas, which makes me wonder why, if he supposedly had imperial blood all along, he didn't just... y'know... use that angle from the start. The again, I don't like him and could be biased.

Bei may have had Imperial lineage, but he was still dirt poor. Without money and power to back it up he was just some backwater with noble blood.


Cao Cao never went past Prime Minister in his lifetime, IIRC. He was named an Emperor post-humously by Cao Pi, although he certainly laid the foundation for the Wei dynasty. Seems like too much of an oppurtunist (and a damn good one at that) to argue that he was doing it for the good of the Han, apart from his early days (through to the collapse of the anti-Dong Zhou coalition).

Cao Cao was Emperor in everything but name, and I don't think he really tried to hide that fact. He and his family held the reins of power. Though it is pretty hard to argue that he did anything for any reason other than his own ambition.


Sun family... not a lot, really. Had the imperial seal, gave it away again. No claim, but doesn't stop me from liking them.

Opportunists. That's the best way to sum them up.