Death Note Werewolf Game (ongoing)

[Dragoon]

The twenty-seven individuals were escorted in. Quite a few were surprised by the police that had “arrested” them this morning, and the strange instruction to wear the helmet given to them. As each person walked in, they were given a piece of paper, with a picture and one or two words on it with the occasional number. The guards also wore face-concealing helmets. They were definitely not apart of the Japanese Police Force. A few in the crowd started whispering back and forth, word quickly spread that it had to have been about Kira. Hadn’t anyone that went after him died? No, not L, he was untouched, replied others. But does he actually exist? Others wondered. Someone then asked, “If you’re after Kira, why did you bring us here?”

“Excellent question, you all can call me Watari.” An older gentleman walked in from a side room and stood in front of a large blank screen. “Let me say first that all of you here are under suspicion of being Kira.” Quite a few shocked faces would have been seen, if it wasn’t for the helmets. “Each of you have been given a name, and we shall interview each of you, one at a time.” The older man stopped talking as he collapsed, clutching his chest. Fingers started pointing at others, accusation running wild.

One of the guards stepped forward, “I have been ordered by L to have a vote each day for whoever everyone thinks is Kira and they shall be arrested. Everyone has their own picture and pseudoname for them to be identified by.” The screen that was blank comes alive, with all 27 pictures and psuedonames, with the occasional change to showing a particular person closer, which slightly unnerves a few people. A few of the members smile, hoping to use this situation to their own gain.

Kira must have modified the orders somehow, and I can’t fix them, interesting move Kira. At least I know for certain they're others with your ability but worse.


The rules as everyone thinks they know them. As this is death note, not everything is known by all.
The villagers
Anti-Kira- You believe that Kira’s not a good thing and wish to help the investigation force. You win if all the Kiras are dead.
Pro-Kira- You believe that Kira is creating a new world worth living in, however, you are not willing to stick your neck out to support him. Win if you survive, and absolutely win if Kira win.
Criminal- You are the bait L used to catch Kira, you are just trying to survive, win if you survive until the end of the game.
Near- You came to help L, though you are more limited, you can scry every three days to determine if someone has a death note and their role. Also, if L is killed, you take his place and can scry every other day. Win if Kiras are killed.
Mello- You believe that you are better than Near and wish to prove it. You can scry every three days to determine if someone has a death note, and have a special ability to steal a death note. If you steal a death note, you can instead everyday determine someone’s real name. Win if Kiras and Near are dead.
L- You have lead the investigation into Kira and have a few suspects, though he's been able to hide even though you had a prime suspect. You can scry everyday to determine if a person has a death note. Wins if all the Kiras are dead.
NPA- You know each other and are helping to bring Kira to true justice. Wins if all the Kiras are dead.


Team Kira

Kira’s team wins killing every criminal, NPA, L, Near, and Mello. The Kiras do not know each other at the start of the game. They win absolutely if they keep at least one pro-kira supporter alive.
Light Yagami- You are the original, and “fell” for L’s trap, though you brought your allies. Everyday you can determine someone’s role and possibly their real name. L, Near, and Mello see Light as a villager.
Misa- You found Light and got yourself Shinigami eyes to help him, each night you can get someone’s real name.
Mikami- Light selected you to cover for him, believing him a more worthy second than Misa, and you took the Shinigami eyes to help punish criminals. Just like Misa each night you can get someone’s real name.

Team Yotsuba

Higuchi- You were given the death note to throw suspicion off of Light. You wish to put Yotsuba on top, though your associates may not have the same ideals. You also have the shinigami eyes, just like Misa and Mikami
Boardmembers- You know that one of you has a death note, and you have two ways to win, either, join with the anti-Kira forces to try to kill all four Kiras or they can try to win by outnumbering everyone else. They count as criminals to Kira.


Special Rules
Everyone will be given a real name, that the Kira’s will need to write in the death note to kill a person. Just like the manga/anime, the Kira’s can control a person’s actions and time of death somewhat. If they try too much control, then the person will die instantly instead. Example, Dragoon writes that Naomi Misora (Shadow) will die in four days and on that day, point at Freshmeat, saying he is Light Yagami, that would work.
There are couple more abilities only the role that has them will know about.
Also, names from Death Note may be used, but does not mean they are the same roles.


Dragoon was killed, he was the Fool, the day phase has started and will end in about 48 hours. Also, pm if there is any confusion. Also, I picked all the name for people before the roles were decided, so real names indicate nothing about the person's role.


Player List 9/27 Narrator 0/1
Aemoh killed by Kira night 2, Anti-Kira
Artemis97 suicide (Kira), L
banjo1985 killed by Kira night 3, Board Member
bayar
Catseye2121 killed by Kira night 5, Anti-Kira
detrevnisisiht auto-lynched Anti-Kira
Dragoon killed by Kira day 1 the fool
Emperor Demonking lynched, was a Board Member
Fleeing Coward] lynched, was part of the NPA
Free Hand
Freshmeat_ killed by Kira night 5, Criminal
Frigs
Ganurath killed by Kira, was a criminal
Griever lynched day 4, Pro Kira
Haruki-kun
hap_hazard
lamech
Moon_Called withdrew
Mordokai scarificed himself to the lynch, Anti-Kira
Murska killed by Kira night 5, Higuchi
Raistlin1040
Recaiden lynched day 3, Near
Reinholdt
Saint Nil killed by Higuchi night 6, Light
Shadowcaller
Szilard killed by Kira night 6, Board Member
V.Z. killed by Kira, Anti-Kira
Vampiric lynched day 4, Mikami
Zombie pixe auto-lynched, Anti-Kira

[Emperor Demonking]

If hari-kun is werewolf, give me credit for finding him.

I'll keep my vote off in order to catch werewolves.

[Murska]

One of the masked men leaned on a wall, and whispered to another one nearby: "What the hell do they think they are doing? We're VOTING on who is Kira? I don't know anyone here, and if I did, I couldn't recognize them. How are we supposed to choose? Gods, my assistant will not be able to do my job, we've got to settle this thing fast."

Then he stopped talking, and started thinking about his unusual situation. Gods, how can they think I'M Kira? I wasn't even in the city where they heard L pinpointed him...

[Haruki-kun]

If hari-kun is werewolf, give me credit for finding him.

I'll keep my vote off in order to catch werewolves.

......what gives? :smallconfused:

[V.Z.]

((Sorry. I'm in an internetcafe at the moment and won't be online again until the 25th, so no roleplay for me on day 1. Since I'm safe by not voting at the moment and since I can't change it if anyone tries to suddenly bandwagon it, I'll refrain from voting today. I should be able to participate fully once I get back. Looking forward to it! :smallsmile:))

[Saint Nil]

Alright everyone, lets stay calm and try to figure this out. Mister Emperor Demonking, what do you have agaisnt Haruki-kun?

(It's a dirty job, but someone has to start pointing)

[Bayar]

Saint Nil, I think that Demonking was only throwing his thoughts around. There is no reason to start a dispute this soon.

[Szilard]

I thought only dead people could be saints? Maybe it is this "Saint Nil" who is guilty.
Not pointing yet.

[Murska]

I thought only dead people could be saints? Maybe it is this "Saint Nil" who is guilty.
Not pointing yet.

And what exactly is wrong with being dead?

[Szilard]

You see, someone who calls himself a saint is most certainly not, which probably means they're not trustworthy. And if he wants to be a saint, we should make sure he meets the first requirment.:smallamused: Szilard says to anyone looking on at him.

[Lamech]

OCC:I will not have excessive amounts of internet over the next few days so my post will be fairly short, and probably just to point.

Saint Nil what kind of preson goes around calling himself a saint?

[Reinholdt]

((Well, since he's Saint Nil, that means he's the Saint of Nothing, so he's really saying that he's not a Saint. Quite humble of him, actually.

First day random point at Frigs. RP later when I can think of something.))

[Emperor Demonking]

......what gives? :smallconfused:

Is that an admission of guilt?

[Raistlin1040]

A tall man with dark red hair, in a black beret hanging lobsidedly off ne side of his head and smoking a cigarette, looks from his right to his left and then looks back. I suppose an introduction is in order. He says, smirking. Since we're all using absurd aliases, and since mine appears to be Zigmund Tyler, you can all call me Z. Or T. Or Zigmund. Or Tyler. Or ZT, if that's what you do. He smothers the smoke in a nearby ashtray. So we're catching this Kira guy right? Then why don't we get to it, instead of throwing around meaningless accusations? He begins to shift his eyes from one person to the next, saying nothing, but obviously thinking.

[banjo1985]

"Well aint this just peachy? Day 1 of this whole shibang and already we got this King character throwing around accusations."

A red haired man in a pinstripe suit pushs himself away from the wall he was leaning against and strolls towards the others.

"The names Reno. You, King guy, you have anything to back this up? I just want to get this mess sorted out and get out of here, so if you have any solid evidence spill it."

Reno gives the group a lopsided smile and waits for a reaction.

[Saint Nil]

Your right, its just in this high tense situation, I a little worried.

(That, and I like to point everyday I can to avoid autolynch. Never know when real life might get in the way. Nother personal to ED, I'm just pointing)

[Shadowcaller]

((Seems I don't have enough time to RP today since I'm going away a couple of days so ill just randomly vote for Freshmeat_ (the random vote is presented by the holy dice).))

[Free Hand]

Masaru is sitting in a corner with his head bowed down and covered with his hand. Although he may appear to be despairing its as much despair as it is a preventive measure from suffocating on the smug wafting from some of the other prisoners.

Masaru is suspicious of this Zigmund, because someone this confident and full of himself has got to be a main character as everyone else are required to act like lost lemmings lead on and gasping like children at every insight made by the main characters. Masaru thinks about the microchip implanted in his neck that made him into the helpless sheep he is and wonders what life was like before it was mandatory to place them in babies six weeks after birth.

[Bayar]

Masaru is sitting in a corner with his head bowed down and covered with his hand. Although he may appear to be despairing its as much despair as it is a preventive measure from suffocating on the smug wafting from some of the other prisoners.

Masaru is suspicious of this Zigmund, because someone this confident and full of himself has got to be a main character as everyone else are required to act like lost lemmings lead on and gasping like children at every insight made by the main characters. Masaru thinks about the microchip implanted in his neck that made him into the helpless sheep he is and wonders what life was like before it was mandatory to place them in babies six weeks after birth.

What ? :confused:

[Emperor Demonking]

Saint Nil, you made the 100% werewolf error. Seriously reread your last post.

[Murska]

((Pointing at Free Hand cuz busy ATM.))

[Bayar]

Kinda agree with Demonking. Saint Nil, confess your crimes !

[Szilard]

Coolio, I pseudo-started a bandwagon. Saint Nil.

[Saint Nil]

(WAIT!! What did I do? Seriously!)

[Emperor Demonking]

Did you reread your post?

[Saint Nil]

Yes, but I still don't understand.

[Ganurath]

Yes, but I still don't understand.It's Emperor Demonking. He's the McArthur of Werewolf games. Methinks his grounds for pointing at you are that you're pointing every day to avoid autolynch. I believe he's mistaking that for the every other day tactic that's always employed by at least one Were. That being said, I shall point at Demonking, as the only thing worse than a Day 1 bandwagon is a Day 1 bandwagon with the Emperor at the reigns. ((For those outside the states, McArthur was a US Senator during the Cold War who had an itchy trigger finger for accusing people of being communists.))

[Saint Nil]

Thank you Ganurath. To respond, Emperor Demonking, that tatic is used by wolves who are trying to stay under the radar. If I was doing that, I wouldn't have pointed until tommorow. I point everyday because I don't have the guarntee that I will have the chance to get on the internet everyday. If I was using this tatic to stay under the radar, I wouldn't have pointed first, that that always leads to unwanted attention.

[Emperor Demonking]

My reason for voting is that I said "100% werewolf error" and Saint Nil reread his post.

He read his post to look for the "100% werewolf error"

He wouldn't read it unless their was a chance he could find the "100% werewolf error"

Their couldn't be a "100% werewolf error" in his post unless he was a werewolf.

Therefore he's a werewolf.


This is logic, therefore its the best we can go on.

[Ganurath]

He wouldn't read it unless their was a chance he could find the "100% werewolf error"Or he just wanted to find what you thought was a 100% werewolf error. This isn't Salem, Demonking. Well, it kinda is, but we have better logic to work with than that.

87. If you have to clarify that the reasoning behind the action is logic, it probably isn't.

[Murska]

My reason for voting is that I said "100% werewolf error" and Saint Nil reread his post.

He read his post to look for the "100% werewolf error"

He wouldn't read it unless their was a chance he could find the "100% werewolf error"

Their couldn't be a "100% werewolf error" in his post unless he was a werewolf.

Therefore he's a werewolf.


This is logic, therefore its the best we can go on.


Heh. I reread his post as well. Mostly since I hadn't noticed anything odd about it and so was curious. Does that make me a wolf trying to not repeat other people's mistakes? :smallwink:

[Saint Nil]

That makes no sense, I reread my post to see why I was being accused. Anyone can make a mistake. That dosn't make me a werewolf.

[Ganurath]

That makes no sense, I reread my post to see why I was being accused. Anyone can make a mistake. That dosn't make me a werewolf.*eyes Demonking warily*

Does being able to manipulate the mob with faulty logic make one suspicious?

[Saint Nil]

I would say the answer to that is yes.

[TFT]

Demonking's logic didn't really make sense there... Is he just trying to protect himself?

And btw, I think if most people thought there was something that was able to accuse them of being evil on their post, good or evil player, would try to find out what it was. So it doesn't really prove anything.

to TPBM, I meant accuse someone before he himself was accused, but since he didn't really have anything to go off of, he had to use faulty logic.

[Ganurath]

Demonking's logic didn't really make sense there... Is he just trying to protect himself?Nope. He didn't come under fire until after he pulled a bandwagon out of his a- er, hat.

[Haruki-kun]

He read his post to look for the "100% werewolf error"

He wouldn't read it unless their was a chance he could find the "100% werewolf error"

Are you serious? This is ridiculous, Demonking, of course anyone is going to re-read a post if someone said "there's something interesting in your post".

It carries as much weight as saying "he re-read his post because I pointed out a typo".

And I honestly don't believe anyone is going to catch a wolf out of First Day Logic. Out of First Day Luck, possibly, but posting in the first day and saying "all evidence leads to X" makes no sense, given that there's not yet any evidence to lead anywhere.

[Saint Nil]

Demonking 2
Saint Nil 4
Frigs 1
Free Hand 1
Freashmeat 1

[Szilard]

Are you serious? This is ridiculous, Demonking, of course anyone is going to re-read a post if someone said "there's something interesting in your post".

It carries as much weight as saying "he re-read his post because I pointed out a typo".

And I honestly don't believe anyone is going to catch a wolf out of First Day Logic. Out of First Day Luck, possibly, but posting in the first day and saying "all evidence leads to X" makes no sense, given that there's not yet any evidence to lead anywhere.

Technically, everyone has evidence, but only about who they are. So now they know that someone else isn't. But that doesn't help much.

[Artemis97]

The camera pans to the back of the room, where a young woman sits cross-legged against the back wall. She wears jeans and a sweatshirt that bears the logo of a local college, and although her face can't be seen through the helmet she was given, long black hair sticks out from under the headgear. The scene shifts to black and white, tinted with green, revealing the bestectacled face beneath the helmet as an inner monologue begins.

We've only been in here for less than a day and already the accusations are flying. It's impossible to know who's on what side here, and yet, they insist on calling each other out. What savages people can become, when their lives are on the line. This Nil person was the first to make a move, and they all attack him, but why? Is it fear? Surely Kira or L wouldn't be so stupid to make a move like that. The poor man just made the mistake of trying to start things off, and they're tearing him to pieces. Fools. He's probably completely innocent. Surely they must realize that? Why do they insist on proving his guilt? This King character seems adamant on that point. But why? Does he know something the rest of us don't?

((Or in other words *points at Emperor Demonking*))

[Bayar]

My reason for voting is that I said "100% werewolf error" and Saint Nil reread his post.

He read his post to look for the "100% werewolf error"

He wouldn't read it unless their was a chance he could find the "100% werewolf error"

Their couldn't be a "100% werewolf error" in his post unless he was a werewolf.

Therefore he's a werewolf.


This is logic, therefore its the best we can go on.

The way he uses logic...he is either L, Light, Near, or Narumi :biggrin:

[Aemoh]

I've said this once before, but it seems that Emperor Demonking gets bandwagon'd alot outta nowhere, though in this case he brought it on himself, now didn't he?

Anyways... I know I should stop trying to even up wagons, but I can't help myself and he kinda deserves it... :smalltongue:

*points at Emperor Demonking*

[Raistlin1040]

Zigmund Tyler sighs and brushes his auburn hair from his eyes. So the main suspects are those two over there? He askes, pointing vaguly in the direction of Demonking and Saint Nil. I see. Well then in that case, it's most likely not them we have to worry about. In this case, it's far easier to trust a blind pick, when two others have already been put on the chopping block. After all, our enemies could have easily coordinated this. He takes off his beret and tosses it lazily into the air. It lands at Bayar's feet. Hmm. Sorry about this, just playing a game of chance. Z points at Bayar.

[hap_hazard]

*points at Demonking*

That really made close to no sense.

[Haruki-kun]

The way he uses logic...he is either L, Light, Near, or Narumi :biggrin:

*chuckle*

*points at Emperor Demonking*

[TFT]

Almost forgot... *points at Demonking*
(will do some roleplaying later)

[Mordokai]

*random point at Murska to avoid autolynch, in case he can't acces the forum on day 2*

[Emperor Demonking]

I actually have propper logic now.

Ganurath: Resorted to name calling in order to defend Saint Nil. The only reason he'd be defended is if he was a werewolf.

I'm a good power role.

[banjo1985]

Reno smiles again at the arguments that are raging and shake shis head.

"I think this guys just confused. Aemoh, I'd be obliged if you told me where you got that spiffy smilie of yours."

[Freshmeat]

*point at Aemoh*

[Saint Nil]

I actually have propper logic now.

Ganurath: Resorted to name calling in order to defend Saint Nil. The only reason he'd be defended is if he was a werewolf.

I'm a good power role.

That makes as much sense as your other post. He defended me because you are saying nonsense to get me lynched, which only helps the wolfs.

[Murska]

The way he uses logic...he is either L, Light, Near, or Narumi :biggrin:

:smallbiggrin:

Anyway. I'll change my point at Aemoh since EDK has claimed to be a good power role, therefore will die cuz of all the death note-wielding maniacs anyway and if he doesn't, I'll start suspecting him tomorrow. So advancing another wagon sounds better.

[Haruki-kun]

I actually have propper logic now.

Ganurath: Resorted to name calling in order to defend Saint Nil. The only reason he'd be defended is if he was a werewolf.

I'm a good power role.

Fine. *changes point to Aemoh*

But I don't believe that you're a good power role. Sorry, but you are literally the boy who cried wolf.

[Emperor Demonking]

Are youb reffering to me accurately nailing all three werewolves on day 1 or to how I reacted to my first lynch?

Aemoh

[Saint Nil]

I like Murskas point, so Aemoh

[Aemoh]

See what you started Banjo? Again? Sheesh... :smalleek:

Well, whatever. My heart wasn't really into this game, seeing as I ended up as Anti-Kira(I'm more pro :smallbiggrin: ).

Btw, Haruki-kun, you forgot to strikeout your previous vote at Demonking.

[TFT]

I'm pulling my vote off of EDK, but since I don't want to join any bandwagons... *random point at Ganurath*

(Sorry Ganurath, I just looked down at the recent posts : /)

And after more wierd logic from EDK, back to EDK...

[Haruki-kun]

Are you referring to me accurately nailing all three werewolves on day 1 or to how I reacted to my first lynch?

No, I'm referring to the fact that you keep claiming to be power roles in pretty much every game I've seen so far. You claimed you were the Baner in Alchemists II, day 1, where a situation similar to this one occurred when you were, in fact, a Homunculus.

Do you honestly believe that you can say in your first post "Aemoh, Saint Nil, and Haruki are wolves and I get credit for finding them" and be right about it?

More to the point, everyone who disagrees with you seems to be suspicious, all ten of them. Clearly, there aren't 10 wolves here.

Faulty Logic, Demonking, is not Logic. Squid Bones aren't real, The Cake is not a Lie, Do not Pass Go, Do not Collect $200.

[Emperor Demonking]

No, I'm referring to the fact that you keep claiming to be power roles in pretty much every game I've seen so far. You claimed you were the Baner in Alchemists II, day 1, where a situation similar to this one occurred when you were, in fact, a Homunculus.

Do you honestly believe that you can say in your first post "Aemoh, Saint Nil, and Haruki are wolves and I get credit for finding them" and be right about it?

More to the point, everyone who disagrees with you seems to be suspicious, all ten of them. Clearly, there aren't 10 wolves here.

Faulty Logic, Demonking, is not Logic. Squid Bones aren't real, The Cake is not a Lie, Do not Pass Go, Do not Collect $200.


Actually only the one that resorted to personal insults and that used the the fact that I'm non-american to make an insult I couldn't refute.

Misinterpretation of my position. Wow I really am lucky.

One game does not make all games. It is very useful for the beast to false-claim, not so with any of the roles here. Plus forgive me if I'm wrong but I don't think you were in that , incredibly broken, game.

[Freshmeat]

Pass the popcorn! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PassThePopcorn)

[Haruki-kun]

Actually only the one that resorted to personal insults and that used the the fact that I'm non-american to make an insult I couldn't refute.

Misinterpretation of my position. Wow I really am lucky.

One game does not make all games. It is very useful for the beast to false-claim, not so with any of the roles here. Plus forgive me if I'm wrong but I don't think you were in that , incredibly broken, game.

I was running it, thank you very much.

[Emperor Demonking]

So lets add lying to the rest of your behavior.

[Haruki-kun]

So lets add lying to the rest of your behavior.

Pray tell, when, exactly, did I lie?

[Vampiric]

Holy accusations, batman!

Ok, I was going to defend EDK after page 1, where it appeared that he was a good guy, but after posting it in bold, and basically all of page 2, I'm not so sure. I'm not pointing at Freshmeat_, cos if anyone can help us find the Kiras, it's him (also, I remember his post where he asked to stay alive :smallbiggrin:)

Ganurath is a semi-vet, so not pointing at him yet, as he too could help us rat out the bad guys.

@freshmeat_: You gonna share that?

edit - ok, Emperor Demonking, this is getting less than sportsmanlike.

[Bayar]

Demonking is my new pointee. Just because he plays like a mad man. And I'd rather not have paranoia from the very first day in a WW game...

[Recaiden]

I have to *point at Emperor Demonking* This is ridiculous.
This is crazy. We're all going to end up dead stuck here.

[Ganurath]

Ganurath is a semi-vet, so not pointing at him yet, as he too could help us rat out the bad guys.I'm flattered, although I should point out that my ability to ferret out the enemy is limited to publicly available information. Even in the game where I was a mason I was forced out of the loop. However, if it means less pointing at me, I'd be more than happy to be a go-between contact for the good guys after a proper investigation (scry) has confirmed my opposition to the Kiras.

Demonking: My apologies if you took the McArthur comparison as a personal insult. I was just trying to communicate how you accuse people of being wolves on evidence that is... lacking, to put it delicately.

[Artemis97]

I'd like to point out that pointing at someone because they're defending another person, through the logic that it's a wolf protecting a wolf, is ridiculous. It states in the rules that the 'kiras' don't know who each other are. They would have to scry for each other, which is impossible on day one. If they are defending each other through knowing each other's roles, they're most likely NPA, so let's try not to gang up on them on the first day, yeah?

This is counter to a point made up there somewhere *waves hand at the posts above* and I'm too lazy to go back a page or two and look for it. I just thought this game needed a dose of real, actual, game-based logic, even if all it says is we really don't know anything about anyone at this point and are flying blind.

*tosses 2cp into the thread*

[Free Hand]

((I hate you all so much!! All this bloody analyzing thats going on in the first day! Now I'm doing it too!! You've annoyed me because noone tried to eat an epic chip, and thats just crazy!! So heres my little bit you evil monsters.

It surprised me that EDK claimed to be mason status in past games, but then the only time he declared himself as such was in girl genius, (I think it was him, but I don't feel like digging around for the game. I think he was doctor Sun?)

I don't feel we can trust him, even if another Mason vouches for him (which I strongly discourage) He's now property of team Kira, better to kill him and verify his actual role before the Kiras can make use of him.

So now I'm being serious for the moment and am pointing at Emperor Demon King.))

[Ganurath]

It surprised me that EDK claimed to be mason status in past games, but then the only time he declared himself as such was in girl genius, (I think it was him, but I don't feel like digging around for the game. I think he was doctor Sun?)He was, although he claimed to be DuPree.

[Mordokai]

One game does not make all games. It is very useful for the beast to false-claim, not so with any of the roles here. Plus forgive me if I'm wrong but I don't think you were in that , incredibly broken, game.

You also claimed to be a seer in WWC VI, pray tell. Also, your record is far too suspicious to not be suspicious of you(god, that sounded funny). I'm almost sure there were a few other games where you lied about your role, I just can't remember them right now. Point being, when you claim a role, I don't trust you at all. As such, Emperor Demonking.

[Dragoon]

One of the guards just smirked, seeing the confusion of the people inside. Kira was right about them not being able to get him, the best part's going to be when L gets arrested by his own mob. After accusations fly, eventually one is singled out. The guard decided to make his move. He slowly walked over to "Emperor Demonking" and tapped him on the shoulder. "Sir, if you are not Kira, there is nothing to worry about. We just need to talk for a moment." Emperor Demonking is rushed over. The other guards block the door. A few of the others are trying to see if they can leave as well, since they couldn't be Kira. The push to get out was silenced when two shots rang out from the room. The guard walked out and flatly states, "He went for my gun, I had no choice." The door was closed quickly, but Aemoh caught a peek and saw Emperor Demonking did not do anything as a shiver went down his spine.

The head guard glared at the guard, "What do you think you were doing?"
"L's orders were to shoot the person if they became violent. And asking L to tell us differently requires him to identify himself, do you really want him to be killed?" The other guard go back to the their stations, though a few look back at him, who was smirking but none could see.

A minute later, Emperor Demonking's identity was revealed to be Nakano Hayate, known by a few to be a member of Yotsuba's Corporation board. Also, it looks like he was innocent.

"You will find we have rooms prepared for you based on your "name." We will find Kira, do not worry. Food will be sent as well." One of the doors in the back open, leading to a long hallway with plenty of rooms. Each room came equiped with their own full bathroom and mini-fridge, though few were thinking about that right now.

Day 1 has ended and Emperor Demonking has been lynched, he was a member of the Yotsuba Board. Night 1 will end in 22 hours if possible, if I don't get everyone's information by then, it will be in about 31 hours then.

[Ganurath]

Leaning against the back wall, an elderly gentleman reached into his snack bag of Cooler Ranch Doritos. Pulling out an unbroken dorito, he examines it nonchalantly. Although one side was particularly bland, the other was almost green it was so thouroughly covered in spices. He mused that the chip was much like Kira: harmless seeming in the public eye, but in truth there was more to him than could be believed without seeing. He turned the chip spicy side down, sliping it under his face mask.

"Kira... I will endure your onslaught." With that statement, he took a bite of the chip, spicy side landing directly upon his tongue to get the full flavor, taking the spiciness with ease.

[Murska]

Leaning against the back wall, an elderly gentleman reached into his snack bag of Cooler Ranch Doritos. Pulling out an unbroken dorito, he examines it nonchalantly. Although one side was particularly bland, the other was almost green it was so thouroughly covered in spices. He mused that the chip was much like Kira: harmless seeming in the public eye, but in truth there was more to him than could be believed without seeing. He turned the chip spicy side down, sliping it under his face mask.

"Kira... I will endure your onslaught." With that statement, he took a bite of the chip, spicy side landing directly upon his tongue to get the full flavor, taking the spiciness with ease.

((I will take a chip... And EAT IT!))

[Ganurath]

((I will take a chip... And EAT IT!))((Somebody was going to have to. I wanted to make sure it was RPed in detail rather than just an OOC blurb.))

[Murska]

((Somebody was going to have to. I wanted to make sure it was RPed in detail rather than just an OOC blurb.))

Yeah, for that, I will never randomly point at you this game.

[banjo1985]

Reno sighs and shrugs his shoulders.

"Geuss he was confused AND a threat...meh, he was asking for it throwing around all those accusations. Getting personal is not a good way to make friends and influence people."

Reno strolls off down the corridor, looking for the minibar.

[Dragoon]

A few people had problems sleeping, after all, if Kira was here they might all be dead before they wake up. The guards patrolled at night, one guard ran into Reno, who had found the guard's fridge, which also had a couple of drinks. "You ok, sir, you look slightly flushed?" Reno eyes him carefully, since had been the one to kill Emperor Demonking.
"Something the matter, are you sure your arm isn't hurting? I hope you aren't having a heart attack now, that would be horrible?" Reno left, though he had noticed his heartbeat becoming faster. He left, not wanting to be in the same room as him. Unfortunately for him as he made it back to his room, his heartbeat got faster. He laid down, try not to drop his drink. Was it his time? He laid there until his eyes closed.

His eyes opened to sound of banging on door. "Excuse me, Reno, it's time to get up." He realized that the guard the night before was being a prick and messing with him. Of course Kira could have caused the man to have to act this way. He joined the others and like everyone else, was relived to find that no one had died tonight.

Also, if I haven't responsed to your night actions, let me know by pm, preferably.

Just a reminder, to not let anyone know if you get a pm from changing your action.

Also, any person I use for narration will be chosen by narrator whim, nothing else. Well, unless they asked to be used.

Also, will post who has 1 on their auto-lynch warnings in just a second.

[Ganurath]

"Ladies and gentlemen, I have had an interesting thought. Nakano Hayate was a member of Yotsuba, as we have now learned. Although we are indeed trying to identify Kira, from what information has been made available to us a member of this group has Kira's powers. As such, one of the members of Yotsuba needs to be eliminated as well.

"I believe that, since Nakano Hayate knew who the other members of Yotsuba was, but was not the member with the powers of Kira, he intended to work with the investigation to bring down the... Kiras. Naturally, for reasons that have been sealed in his grave, Nakano suspected Haruki."

Pointing a single finger at Haruki-kun, the elderly gentlemen with the doritos continued munching nonchalantly. "Although he did not mean what we originally assumed he meant, I now realize that Emperor Demonking was right about you."

[Haruki-kun]

"I'm afraid you're wrong, Mr. Ganurath's character-san," says the man.

"Bear with me for a moment. Suppose I am, in fact, a member of the Yotsuba. That single member who has Kira powers is unknown to the other members. All they are told is 'one of you'. Therefore, it makes no sense to assume he might be right if he did decide to (for some reason) sell out the other members of the Yotsuba.

Of course, if you think that an X Number of people who don't count as our enemies should be eliminated to bring down one person who may or may not be a threat to us go right ahead, my good sir. That is, if you actually believe you have the names of the Yotsuba.

Oh, and another thing. While the person sitting in front of the computer writing my dialogue may understand the rules of this game, as well as the person sitting in front of the computer writing yours, it makes no sense for us, in character, to know the dealings of the Yotsuba. Just a thought."

Haruki winks at the Fourth Wall.

[Ganurath]

"Valid points, valid points. Still, I feel I must remain with my current course of action despite the argument you have presented." With that, he crunches down on another dorito, jerking his head to one side dramatically as he pulls his bite away from the remainder of the chip.

[Dragoon]

First warning for
detrevnisisiht,
Fleeing Coward,
Frigs,
Moon_Called,
Zombie pixe.

[TFT]

(I think its about time to get my RP started...)

"Catseye, its time for you to get up"
The young man got up and, a little dazed, turned to the guard. "Of course, just give me a minute, I think I misplaced something..."

The guard replied "Sure, just get back to the room you were in yesterday, as soon as you're done searching", then left the room, while the man checked the pockets of the jeans he wore yesterday. Not finding what he was looking for there, he joined the others in the room they were in from yesterday. After searching where he had stood the day before and not finding anything, he made his way to the middle of the room and interrupted an already forming arguement, saying, "Sorry to bother you guys, but has anyone seen a catseye marble anywhere? I seemed to have dropped mine in this room sometime yesterday, and would like to have it back..."

Seeing no reply except stares, he made his way to the back of the room, as to not get dragged into the arguements redeveloping in the middle.

[banjo1985]

Reno is woken up by the guard in a grouchy mood. He's not partial to being messed with.

"What an arse. If it's the last thing I do I will see that jumped up little prat burn. You with me Fleeing Coward?"

Reno asks it nonchalantly, but he is clearly angry and jumpy from a lack of sleep.

[Bayar]

"Ladies and gentlemen, I have had an interesting thought. Nakano Hayate was a member of Yotsuba, as we have now learned. Although we are indeed trying to identify Kira, from what information has been made available to us a member of this group has Kira's powers. As such, one of the members of Yotsuba needs to be eliminated as well.

"I believe that, since Nakano Hayate knew who the other members of Yotsuba was, but was not the member with the powers of Kira, he intended to work with the investigation to bring down the... Kiras. Naturally, for reasons that have been sealed in his grave, Nakano suspected Haruki."

Pointing a single finger at Haruki-kun, the elderly gentlemen with the doritos continued munching nonchalantly. "Although he did not mean what we originally assumed he meant, I now realize that Emperor Demonking was right about you."




"I'm afraid you're wrong, Mr. Ganurath's character-san," says the man.

"Bear with me for a moment. Suppose I am, in fact, a member of the Yotsuba. That single member who has Kira powers is unknown to the other members. All they are told is 'one of you'. Therefore, it makes no sense to assume he might be right if he did decide to (for some reason) sell out the other members of the Yotsuba.

Of course, if you think that an X Number of people who don't count as our enemies should be eliminated to bring down one person who may or may not be a threat to us go right ahead, my good sir. That is, if you actually believe you have the names of the Yotsuba.

Oh, and another thing. While the person sitting in front of the computer writing my dialogue may understand the rules of this game, as well as the person sitting in front of the computer writing yours, it makes no sense for us, in character, to know the dealings of the Yotsuba. Just a thought."

Haruki winks at the Fourth Wall.

Well, I tend to agree with Haruki here...since no one would try to bring down his own faction. But, as a side note, Demonking did some preety random stuff. I mean, he first said that Haruki is warewolf, then said that Saint Nil was one, then that Ganurath was one, then, out of the bloom, he actually points at someone while claiming that he nailed 3 warewolves.


Are youb reffering to me accurately nailing all three werewolves on day 1 or to how I reacted to my first lynch?

Aemoh

As a conclusion...I tend to think that demonking was a bit insane...

Could he have been trying to point at his own team members just to avoid suspicion from him?

[Copacetic]

Hmmm..... I think I'll go with Fleeing Coward as well.

[Aemoh]

Hrm... I lived. Neat.

*random point at Murska*

[V.Z.]

A young woman sits crossed-legged before the screen showing the pictures of all present. "So. Kira is among these, hmm?" She mumbles as she looks intently at the screen showing the pictures of all present and constantly rubs a small lock of her long black hair sticking from under the helmet between her fingers. She sees her own picture come closer into view with the name Asakawa Seira, the pseudonym she received from L, below it. Twenty-six left, including herself. Not much of interest had happened yet that could give any clues as to Kira... One of the pictures had shown a blonde girl that more than a little resembled that idol that was getting more and more popular lately. Amane? ... Wasn't that her name? And then there was that odd Yotsuba guy that was shot yesterday... Would Yotsuba be involved with Kira, somehow? ... His presence might just be a coincidence... But still... Her thoughts are interrupted as some people start speaking behind her. Still holding the lock of hair between her fingers Seira looks over her shoulder to see the speakers. Recognizing the man with an interesting way of eating dorito chips (Ganurath) she then turns around and leans her head on her hands to follow the discussion.

((Completely random point from me. It may change if decent clues come up. Please don't hold it against me. :smallwink:

Say, what are the grounds for pointing at Fleeing Coward, twice now? Someone being at the receiving end of more than one point might attract lazy bandwagoners. :smallamused: Careful now.))

[Recaiden]

Denc is really just tired, but knows that sleeping too long would look suspicious, so he reluctantly gets ready and heads out of his room. One or Two of these people look familiar, but he has to agree with pointing at Fleeing Coward.

[Szilard]

Szilard gets up. Hey Ganurath, Can I have some doritos?

[Artemis97]

The young woman now leans against the back wall, in the same spot she had been sitting the day before. She observes the room quietly, but pays particular attention to Catseye as he move towards her. "Is this what you're looking for?" She asks, pulling a multi-colored marble from the pocket of her sweatshirt and holding it up between two fingers.

[TFT]

Catseye turned to the woman who found his marble. Where did you find that? I've been looking everywhere for it...

[Mordokai]

Fleeing Coward

[Free Hand]

Gah decisions and choices!! I point at Ganurath because his argument to point at Haruki seems a little off to me. Maybe Haruki is a board member but I'm not sure targeting the Yotsuba group is a good thing as that is in fact aligned with Kira's over all goals.

[Haruki-kun]

*points at Ganurath*

No comment. I've got nothing to add.

[Fleeing Coward]

Self preservation point at Ganurath.
I havn't done anything yet. I can assure those that are pointing at me that I'm on your side so please don't lynch or kill me. It's alot better that you kill each other instead (for me at least)

[hap_hazard]

*points at Ganurath*

[Artemis97]

She tosses the tiny orb to Catseye. "I found it on the floor in here."

[Reinholdt]

A man leans against the back wall, only distinguished by the wristwatch on his right hand and the apple he's slowly eating in his left. Taking a look at his wristwatch, he thinks "Interesting. Jump against Kira too early and your foundation's shaky. Wait too long and you're dead. Kira's evaded L this long. I wonder how much longer it will take." The man takes a bite of his apple. "Hmm, Juicy," he says to no in particular.

((Fleeing Coward))

((*Props are in no way indicative of role.*))

[Ganurath]

The dorito man sighs and facepalms. "It seems I didn't communicate as clearly as I had hoped."

[Bayar]

Meh. Fleeting coward.

[TFT]

Catseye attempts to catch the orb in one hand. However, it bounces up instead of staying nested inside. He quickly brings his other hand up to catch it.
Thanks for finding my marble, Artemis.((is that your characters alias?, not sure : / )) Should be more careful with it in the future, I guess. With that, he turns around to go where he stood yesterday, to attempt to figure out where the arguements and accusations of the day had led.

[V.Z.]

From under the helmet Seira raises an eyebrow while winding and unwinding the aforementioned lock of hair around her finger. The others seem to be pointing at two people in particular; the dorito man and another she had not noticed before. “Ehm, ‘scuse me!” She calls at the others and leans back, leaning on her hands behind her on the ground. “What are you doing?” Nonchalantly the woman starts twirling her hair around her finger again. “Surely throwing hollow accusations is not going to catch Kira? Or maybe I’m missing something here?” Seira crosses her arms and slightly tilts her head to the side, looking at the accusers suspiciously.

(( Alright, so right now the score is:
Haruki-kun 1
Fleeing Coward 6
Ganurath 6
Catseye 1
Murska 1
Artemis 1

The last three, I assume, are random points, as is my own point at Ganurath. FC and Ganurath are in a tight spot here and there’s quite a chance one is going to be eliminated at the end of the day. However, for what? These bandwagons seem just too random to me. Especially against FC I haven’t seen a single clue, since he only made a single post and that was after he got pointed at. What are the charges? Also, Ganurath, why Haruki? What is it you concluded from Emperor Demonking’s words?))

[Fleeing Coward]

Well since I probably won't get another chance to put up my defense against these random votes until sfter the end of the day due to a horrible disease known as sleep I'll say this now:
Suppose there was a person who knew a few other people but unlike the deceased from the previous day, this person actually wants the kiras to die to win, would you rather lynch him or another person who put forward a claim against an angel which makes little sense based on the delusional rantings of a demon who loves to lie about his role?

[Shadowcaller]

((Must..make vote...to avoid...autolynch... Fleeing Coward just becuase I'm still a bit mad that the fears won...

Edit: No wait its a bandwagon on him, bayar it is then.

[Bayar]

((Must..make vote...to avoid...autolynch... Fleeing Coward just becuase I'm still a bit mad that the fears won...

Edit: No wait its a bandwagon on him, bayar it is then.

Guessing that this is a random point, right ?

[Shadowcaller]

Guessing that this is a random point, right ?

((Indeed it is))

[Murska]

Shadowcaller cuz random point at TPAM.

[Raistlin1040]

Zigmund Tyler leans against a wall, not paying much attention. We still have no evidence. He picks up the beret that once stood at Bayar's feet and tosses it at Ganurath. Seems you're it.

Z points at Ganurath.

[Bayar]

Zigmund Tyler leans against a wall, not paying much attention. We still have no evidence. He picks up the beret that once stood at Bayar's feet and tosses it at Ganurath. Seems you're it.

Z points at Ganurath.

Erm...wait, were we sitting in the exact same place yesterday ? :confused:

[Ganurath]

To address your question, VZ, I just felt that it needed to be said. I can't really say why.

[V.Z.]

(( I’m retracting my point at Ganurath, not because of his answer, but because of the lack of evidence against him. Said lack of evidence was the reason I made a random point at him in the first place. Unless solid evidence comes up against him, I’m changing it to Aemoh. I just chose him because I wanted someone who has not been pointed at and thus is not in danger of being lynched and the point should not be used to conclude anything. Now it should be a draw between FC and Ganurath, so no one will be lynched, right? I won’t hesitate to change my vote to turn it into a draw again should the balance change, unless you give the aforementioned evidence of course. Sorry, but it’s way too early to finish someone off without a clue of their true identity. We might just be finishing off L or another villager power role for all we know (then, that might just be the plan of some of the pointers)!

As for Ganurath’s answer. Though he claims he can’t say anything as to his choice, we can conclude from that he’s either:
1. A power role (either Mello, Near, L or a Kira)
2. A Yotsuba member following Higuchi’s instructions
3. A pro-Kira following a Kira’s instructions
4. A villager non-power role following instructions of one of the villagers’ power roles
5. Someone pretending to be one of the above
I think that’s all. Option 1 is not impossible, especially if he caught an enemy power role, but revealing someone himself makes him vulnerable and thus is dangerous for him. Option 2 is not unlikely, but no conclusions can be drawn based on what we know now (pretty much nothing). Option 3 and 4 are probably not true as the power roles have only had one scry. The last option seems very unlikely, as he wouldn’t have no reason to point at Haruki other than a random point and not telling the reason.
So that’s where we are; hardly (if at all) any further. Lets not lynch anyone, but wait what the coming night scries bring and then see if there are any steps we can undertake. I think that’s the safest option for now. Remember that the Kira’s don’t know each other and the chance of them already having found each other seems unlikely, so they can’t go kill off anyone at random in hope of eliminating one of their targets. We should be able to use that to our advantage. Randomly taking out people we know nothing about is unlikely to get us anywhere. ))

[Mordokai]

Randomly taking out people we know nothing about is unlikely to get us anywhere.

((Actaully, that's pretty much how this games work out. Hars, but true. No evidence at the start mean a few guesses and a few civilian casualties. After that, the scries and the voting patterns kick in and that's when the fun beggins. So yeah, lyncing unknowns an/or random people is pretty much the only option we have at the moment.))

[Murska]

A tie doesn't mean that nobody will be lynched. AFAIK it's usually either that the first bandwagon to reach the most points wins or both the targets might die.

[V.Z.]

((
((Actaully, that's pretty much how this games work out. Hars, but true. No evidence at the start mean a few guesses and a few civilian casualties. After that, the scries and the voting patterns kick in and that's when the fun beggins. So yeah, lyncing unknowns an/or random people is pretty much the only option we have at the moment.))

You have a point, but don't forget my remark on the Kira's. In this game it will probably take some time for the wolves to be able to contact each other and properly coordinate a solid strategy. Without knowledge they can't just go around eliminating random people like the "classic" wolves in hopes of getting their targets, as they might kill an ally. We have a bit time and we should use that to gather evidence, let L and Co. find a proxy to declare their findings, and prevent any unnecessary lynches (that might even work to the Kiras' advantage) while we can. That's my view, in any case.))

[Reinholdt]

((We also can't ignore the Kira's most devastating ability: Being able to control the actions of others before their death. I believe that they are able to write the names in the Death note as soon as they learn their true name. It is quite probable that one or more of us is being controlled today after being scried last night. For instance, I believe Ganurath could have been controlled to accuse Haruki the way that he did before dieing at the end of the day. It's a possibility we can't ignore.))

((Correct me if I misunderstood the rules.))

[Free Hand]

Eh what about invisible castle? Maybe the selected is random for a tie?

Theres another possibility as well, what if a Kira is controlling Ganurath? Although it seems a little early in the game for this but I'm just dropping that on the table. For the moment I'm sticking with my point I personally don't think Ganurath is a power role.

((Fake points at Ninja!! *POINT!!!*))

[Saint Nil]

Mmmmm, Fleeing Coward

[V.Z.]

(( Hmm, good points. If it'll be a die roll, I'll just put it out of my head for now. If both die, I guess I should just roll a die myself to decide a point at either FC or Ganurath. Or... You all point at someone who hasn't been pointed at! *nodnod* Yes, that should work! We'll have a lot with one point! Yay! :smallwink: Man, you think you have a decent little plan, it's all turned up side down... :smallannoyed: :smallbiggrin:

EDIT: Ok, after that last point, I think I'll just let you handle it for today. I'm bad at constructing these kind of plans and I type my posts to slowly to respond properly. Sorry, FC. :smallfrown:))

[Artemis97]

Catseye attempts to catch the orb in one hand. However, it bounces up instead of staying nested inside. He quickly brings his other hand up to catch it.
Thanks for finding my marble, Artemis.((is that your characters alias?, not sure : / )) Should be more careful with it in the future, I guess. With that, he turns around to go where he stood yesterday, to attempt to figure out where the arguements and accusations of the day had led.

"Think nothing of it." She replies before he moves off.

((Artemis is fine, I assume our usernames are our alias and the real names are what Dragoon gave us, unless we come up with something different ourselves. And in other news *points at Ganurath* Bandwagons are fun!))

[Griever]

Murska! The greenie meanie!

[Dragoon]

Yes, your username is your fake name, unless, like banjo and raistlin, you make your own up. Now to the results of the day.

A couple of guards had separated both Fleeing Coward and Ganurath from the rest of the group. "Excuse me, are you two alright?" Before either can respond, another guard walks over,
"I'm sorry, Fleeing Coward, you must come with me at once." They are taken back to the room that Emperor Demonking was in.

"Don't you think it is strange sir, that L did something like this? Wouldn't it have been better to investigate everyone individually instead?" Fleeing Coward's response couldn't be heard by anyone except Ganurath with his face unreadable.
"Of course no one knows how Kira kills, for all you know he just needs to picture a face and then say the person's name-"
"What do you think you are doing? Stop!" Two shots ring out from the room, the guard walked out quickly. "I think he was trying to pull a gun, I'm sorry." Everyone stood in silence as the lead guard walked in. He stormed out furious at him.
"You do realize that was L Lawliet, in there right? He wasn't pulling a gun out, but a badge." He throws the badge at the guard.
A gasps escapes from one of the people and as people try to see who freaked out, Ganurath starts to struggle to breath, holding his chest.
"You will lose," He collapses as two of guards checks.
"He's dead, there was nothing we can do."

"Blast it we lost the chief and now this person, does anyone know the name Nirako Kobasa?"
"Yeah, he was wanted for a few crimes. Kira must have killed him." Everyone watches the others, trying to keep they're eyes on the others, who killed the man.

Results, Fleeing Coward was lynched, he was part of the NPA.
Ganurath was killed by Kira, he was criminal.

Night 3 has begun, and will end in 24 hours, plus or minus a few minutes. Send me your night actions.

And for all those who thought L had just died, I did warn you I mixed up the names from Death Note. :smalltongue:

[Lamech]

OOC: Eep, I missed a vote but I'm back and have full internet, so feel free to hold any lack of posts against me.

[Haruki-kun]

:smalleek:

Crap... Not good.

[Fleeing Coward]

Oh well, one less game to worry about. I did warn you guys that I wasn't a Kira.

[Shadowcaller]

((Sorry about my random votes, but I must use the few hours I have internet connection the best as possible. No more random votes for me from now on.))

[Dragoon]

Everyone had been disquieted by Fleeing Coward's death. Most had gone back to their rooms. The silence was eerie for a few. All fell asleep quickly.

"Sir, I'm coming in. I have some food." The guard knocked, but no answer came. The door was forced open. The guard made sure that no one had watched him.

After searching the room he quickly ran out. "Sir, Kira has struck again. Aemoh was killed, I think he happened to have been one of the people that L suspected but was wrong about."

A few people started looking around, the helmet's hiding people's reactions.

Aemoh was killed, he was Anti-Kira.

Day 3 ends in about 48 hours.

[Artemis97]

Early the next morning, Artemis sits cross-legged beneath the large screen at the front of the room. She looks up at the group as they enter and lifts her voice to be heard. The young woman isn't shouting, yet her voice carries through the entire room.

"Ladies and gentlemen, I must admit that I have been investigating some of your identities and have found out that the one known as Mordokai is a criminal."

((or in more OOC terms, I am a scryer.))

[Murska]

Fine with me. Mordokai.

[Free Hand]

Eh why are we killing criminals? Isn't the point of this to kill the Kiras and sort of prevent them in succeeding in killing all the criminals?

[TFT]

(I was guessing that criminal = a kira...., but anyways)

Catseye gets up from his spot and approaches Artemis. He tosses her a clear blue marble. "Take it," he says,"as a sign of a friendship, if we even make it out of here alive."

[Murska]

Eh why are we killing criminals? Isn't the point of this to kill the Kiras and sort of prevent them in succeeding in killing all the criminals?

Well. Only criminals left I think are the two Light's helpers and Yotsuba. All of whom we ATM want to kill.

[banjo1985]

Reno looks at Artemis and hums quietly, tapping the side of his head with one finger.

"What to do, what to do....a mind reader outing themselves this early? Or a devil seeking to deceive the flock? Of that I'm not sure, but let it be known I am no sheep. Murska, are you a sheep?"

Reno paused, and holds a hand to his face.

"I'm sorry, I'm not really thinking straight today. Excuse my impertininance, I am not myself."

[Murska]

Reno looks at Artemis and hums quietly, tapping the side of his head with one finger.

"What to do, what to do....a mind reader outing themselves this early? Or a devil seeking to deceive the flock? Of that I'm not sure, but let it be known I am no sheep. Murska, are you a sheep?"

"Well, seeing as I do not have any knowledge of the situation, someone has claimed to have some and nobody has presented any proof to the contrary, I'm willing to follow in order to check out if the story fits. If the scrier is wrong, we will have someone to lynch tomorrow. If not, we'll have outed a dangerous enemy."

[Reinholdt]

((I feel this is a perfect example of Kira control. It's way too early for a scrier to reveal themselves and far too unlikely that a network was formed for a proxy to call out against a Kira (having both found a proxy and a Kira in day 1 and 2). I think it would be in our worst interests to believe Artemis.))

[Bayar]

"Ladies and gentlemen, I must admit that I have been investigating some of your identities and have found out that the one known as Mordokai is a criminal."


Criminal- You are the bait L used to catch Kira, you are just trying to survive, win if you survive until the end of the game.

*whistle* :smalltongue:

[Free Hand]

So what now then? should we target Artemis? I'm going to wait and watch the the moment. I also honestly don't think we should lynch her just yet because we may well be wasting it if this is the death note.

[Murska]

*whistle* :smalltongue:



Ganurath was killed by Kira, he was criminal.

I'm not sure what this means. Guessing it's the role 'Criminal' though.


((I feel this is a perfect example of Kira control. It's way too early for a scrier to reveal themselves and far too unlikely that a network was formed for a proxy to call out against a Kira (having both found a proxy and a Kira in day 1 and 2). I think it would be in our worst interests to believe Artemis.))

Indeed, now that I've slept for a while and thought of it afterwards, this is very possible. As I see the situation right now, Mordokai has been accused of being a criminal. Criminal the role is dead, if I'm correct. Therefore, this is probably fake, and controlled by Kira. I'm removing my point now.

[Bayar]

I'm not sure what this means. Guessing it's the role 'Criminal' though.



Indeed, now that I've slept for a while and thought of it afterwards, this is very possible. As I see the situation right now, Mordokai has been accused of being a criminal. Criminal the role is dead, if I'm correct. Therefore, this is probably fake, and controlled by Kira. I'm removing my point now.

Actually, I think that there is more than one criminal...like there are more than on pro-kira, more than one anti-kira, more than one NPA, more than one boardmember...


The only reason I dont point at Mordokai now is because someone saying "Hey ! I scried that person and that person is XYZ so lets lynch him ! Because I am a scryer !" is kinda, to put it bluntly, retarded.

[Haruki-kun]

Blowing your cover on Day 3 when you're a Power Role... even being the fool, that's unlikely to happen. And Artemis does have experience in this type of game.

On the other hand......

"Artemis97, Day 3. Pretends to be a scryer, points at Mordokai, then dies."

How likely is that?

[Griever]

"What to do, what to do....a mind reader outing themselves this early? Or a devil seeking to deceive the flock? Of that I'm not sure, but let it be known I am no sheep. Murska, are you a sheep?"


I'm a sheep! I'm a sheep! Pick me!!!!!

[Szilard]

If you wish, Griever.

[Freshmeat]

*points at Saint Nil*

[Reinholdt]

Blowing your cover on Day 3 when you're a Power Role... even being the fool, that's unlikely to happen. And Artemis does have experience in this type of game.

On the other hand......

"Artemis97, Day 3. Pretends to be a scryer, points at Mordokai, then dies."

How likely is that?

Good point. I suppose that would depend on the Kira. There are a number of possibilities for doing so. One would be to simply throw attention in another direction. I think it best to not vote for them today, though. Whether Artemis97 dies tonight or not we'd get information from it.

[Lamech]

Freshmeat_, for no reason what so ever, except I don't want to be auto'd. This will almost certainly change after I get caught up.

[Murska]

Freshmeat has been oddly silent. I'll go with him. St. Nil.

[Lamech]

Early the next morning, Artemis sits cross-legged beneath the large screen at the front of the room. She looks up at the group as they enter and lifts her voice to be heard. The young woman isn't shouting, yet her voice carries through the entire room.

"Ladies and gentlemen, I must admit that I have been investigating some of your identities and have found out that the one known as Mordokai is a criminal."

((or in more OOC terms, I am a scryer.))
You determined he was a criminal? Or did you determine he had a deathnote? If it was actually criminal then the Kira's are trying to kill him, so he is kind of on team good. If it was deathnote, the correct decision would be to let Mello grab the deathnote.

[Bayar]

Murska because he tried to bandwagonise Mordokai.

Yeah...will wait for new evidence...

[Murska]

Murska because he tried to bandwagonise Mordokai.

Er. I posted that in the middle of the night cuz I was tired and just followed people saying they know what to do... Then when I woke up, I reread the posts and scratched that vote. Nobody else had pointed yet, either, so why would I 'bandwagonize' someone and then 'unbandwagonize' him when there was nothing implying that he would NOT be 'bandwagonized' if I had only kept at it?

Seriously, sometimes...

[Vampiric]

Freshmeat has been oddly silent. I'll go with him. St. Nil.

That's a good reason to be watchful of him... he's going under the radar, which either means he's avoiding the Kiras, or he's avoiding us.

If Haruki is even slightly right, we'll find out tonight if Mordokai is good or bad.

At the moment, my eye is on Freshmeat_, Mordokai, Murska and Artemis97.

But I'm not prepared to point at any of them yet - one will prove the others.

So, Saint Nil.

[Saint Nil]

Freshmeat, because I think Artemis is just a Kira victum. No smart power-role would reveal themselves in the beginning.

Freshmeat gave no evidence towards me, so peole just randomly follow him. WAY too suspicious in my book. This diverts alot of attention away from him, having me, Mordokai, and Artemis in the spotlight.

[Freshmeat]

Actually, that was just a point to avoid the autolynch so I could catch up in the meantime. No need to panic. I don't really consider myself at risk here, but I'd still like to say you're not exactly giving much evidence either, Saint Nil.

So I've become 'suspicious' for... doing what exactly?
Being silent? Please. Up until now, no situation was worth commenting on, although I find it most interesting (and regrettable, avoidable and annoying) that we've wasted all of our lynches so far on killing masons, one of whom even claimed to have a power role in the main thread (and then still got lynched anyway).
For that, there are no excuses. Even in Demonking's case.

And no, killing a Yotsuba Member is unquestionably bad at this point .


Another thing I'd like to point out quickly before people assume something wrong later on: should it turn out that Artemis was influenced by the Death Note (which certainly seems a possibility), it does not necessarily mean we can trust Mordokai. For all we know, the claim - including the 'criminal' part - was entirely staged, which would mean that Mordokai wasn't at any risk of getting actually lynched anyway. Just something to keep in mind.

I'd also suggest pointing at those people who tried to kill known masons. Until we get reliable suspicions, we can at least avoid lynching a mason yet again that way.
So I change my point to Recaiden.



That's a good reason to be watchful of him... he's going under the radar, which either means he's avoiding the Kiras, or he's avoiding us.

You do realize what you just said?
Let's watch out for him... he could be good, or he could be evil!!

How about we keep an eye on those people that jumped on the Demonking bandwagon instead, even after he blatantly admitted to having a power role? Any sensible person would've given Demonking the benefit of the doubt for at least one day, rather than off him before that could happen.


If Haruki is even slightly right, we'll find out tonight if Mordokai is good or bad.

How?
If Artemis is controlled indeed, we still wouldn't know if she was ordered to accuse Mordokai (and she threw the criminal part in herself to give us a hint at what's going on) or accuse him of being a criminal (as part of a greater ploy).

[Mordokai]

I'm not going to claim I'm innocent, nobody will believe me anyway. But hey, why not. Recaiden

[Bayar]

How?
If Artemis is controlled indeed, we still wouldn't know if she was ordered to accuse Mordokai (and she threw the criminal part in herself to give us a hint at what's going on) or accuse him of being a criminal (as part of a greater ploy).

Well...if Artemis doesnt die, then we know she wasnt controlled. And that could mean that Mordokai is truly a criminal. Although, lynching a criminal is not a good idea...

[Saint Nil]

Fair enough Freshmeat. Recaiden.

[Griever]

Recaiden, best case I've heard thus far.

[Murska]

Logic! Finally! Recaiden!

[Recaiden]

The case being that i followed a bandwagon by picking between the 2 people and ended up voting for the wrong one? I agreed with Haruki's reasoning. He wasn't a known mason when i voted.
I think that Vampiric is the one we need to watch out for. I know it's not St. Nil. And Light scries as a villager, not a criminal.
Edit: Pointing at Bayar in an attempt to stay alive.

[TFT]

Freshmeat does have the wisest course of action right now... so Recaiden

[Free Hand]

Does anyone else find it funny that people always follow Freashmeat unquestionably? Seriously its insane!!

EDK may have had a better chance at survive had he not used the same ploy in numerous games, really he just cried wolf once too often to be taken seriously. I really do hope you're a kira Freashmeat because people need to learn not to rely on your judgment so easily!!

I vote Recaiden now as well for the moment because I'm not about to drown trying to swim against the tide.

[TFT]

((Wait... why are we lynching recaiden... he wasn't even the first person to vote for fleeing coward. The first was Banjo, on a random point. Even Recaiden's was a random point, so wouldn't you have said we should lynch banjo? So as such, I cannot trust you right now...)) *Points at Freshmeat*

[Artemis97]

(I was guessing that criminal = a kira...., but anyways)

Catseye gets up from his spot and approaches Artemis. He tosses her a clear blue marble. "Take it," he says,"as a sign of a friendship, if we even make it out of here alive."

A little surprised, Artemis reacts quickly to catch the marble in both hands. "Thank you." She says seriously, her tone matching the smile hidden beneath her helmet.

((And just to clarify, I was saying Mordokai is a criminal as in the role and I'm pointing at him because I really don't have any other evidence and I don't want to point at random. You all can feel free to interpret that however you like, follow my lead, or don't. That said, I'm liking a lot of Freshmeat's logic, although I have no opinion either way of who he's pointing at.))

[Lamech]

Recaidens, the best we have right now he at least isn't a NPA or board member.

And since there appears to be some confusion, Board members and criminals are effectively good guys right now. Also there isn't really a baner in the public rules, (that I can see, please correct me if I made a mistake), so revealing your role will get you killed.

[Freshmeat]

A few things I feel compelled to point out:


The case being that i followed a bandwagon by picking between the 2 people and ended up voting for the wrong one? I agreed with Haruki's reasoning. He wasn't a known mason when i voted.

The case being that for lack of solid leads, we might as well thin out the group of definite non-masons, since that should pretty much halve the odds of accidentally killing a power role. I'm not so much arguing for your guilt here as simply suggesting that people keep the previous days of voting in mind when thinking of targets. My suggestion may have been embraced like (spoiler alert!) the second coming of Jesus, but it's just a very simple and rough guideline, really.


I think that Vampiric is the one we need to watch out for. I know it's not St. Nil. And Light scries as a villager, not a criminal.
Edit: Oh well, looks like everyone thinks i'm one of them. Your loss.

Elaborate.


Does anyone else find it funny that people always follow Freashmeat unquestionably? Seriously its insane!!

I really do hope you're a kira Freashmeat because people need to learn not to rely on your judgment so easily!!

Following someone blindly is no worse than opposing someone blindly.


((Wait... why are we lynching recaiden... he wasn't even the first person to vote for fleeing coward. The first was Banjo, on a random point. Even Recaiden's was a random point, so wouldn't you have said we should lynch banjo? So as such, I cannot trust you right now...)) *Points at Freshmeat*

So Banjo is more suspicious than Recaiden because he threw the first point? That kind of reasoning is ridiculous. I also wouldn't give too much weight to 'random votes', as most of them are anything but. Just treat them as normal votes.

Once again: I'm not saying Recaiden is guilty. I don't know that. At this point, I'm just reminding everyone that chances are pretty good the NPA and Yotsuba wouldn't vote to get one of their own killed (which is pretty obvious anyway) and that voting to get Demonking killed after he claimed to have a power role is, to use an obvious euphemism, 'questionable'. It wouldn't be the first time that those who shout the loudest that a certain power role claim can only be a lie are actually wolves. I can name three games off the top of my head where this is precisely what happened (Girl Genius, Alchemists I and Vampire II).

Demonking lying about his role? It's happened before. But more often than not, he did have a power role (just a different one) and he is generally more truthful about his allegiance than most others. Does this mean that voting for Demonking is guaranteed to be a wolf move? Not necessarily, but it's still a decent enough reason to base accusations on until more information pours in, even if you keep in mind that people generally fear 'looking gullible' more than 'killing an ally'.
There is only shame in making a mistake.


((And just to clarify, I was saying Mordokai is a criminal as in the role and I'm pointing at him because I really don't have any other evidence and I don't want to point at random. You all can feel free to interpret that however you like, follow my lead, or don't. That said, I'm liking a lot of Freshmeat's logic, although I have no opinion either way of who he's pointing at.))

Then I have only one question: now that it's been explicitly pointed out that criminals are the good guys in this game, do you claim to have made a mistake or not?

[Haruki-kun]

Following someone blindly is no worse than opposing someone blindly.

Yes, it is. Opposing someone won't get anyone killed.

Now that I got out of my system...

*points at Recaiden*

We seem to disagree on out views of how people actually work in this type of game. I do agree with a lot of your reasoning, though not all of it. Seeing as you have more solid evidence than me at this point (my evidence being more liquid than anything at this point), I will agree with you for now.

Disclaimer: This means, of course, that I have no evidence as to whether or not Recaiden is guilty.

[TFT]

Alright, lets use a second example then. Frigs also pointed at the NPA guy and didn't vote the first day, which could mean that he didn't want to look suspicious for not pointing at the board member, or that he couldn't vote. So we could point at him, saying that he didn't know that fleeing coward was a mason, so he must be it.

After I wrote my first arguement I looked back and agree that recaidan would make a better choice then banjo, because he pointed at both of the lynched while banjo only pointed at the NPA, but still, the point stands. (even then, it makes banjo suspicious for not knowing that fleeing coward is a NPA)

And for the whole pointing at EDK thing, He was accusing people for no reason, and made the first page chaos. He claimed to be a good power role, but the way he was randomly accusing people doesn't seem logical, because he could point at another good group. Unless all the NPA and L and his group all know each other, which isn't stated.

[Recaiden]

There is the possibility that i have a good power role and made a mistake. <- What happened.

[Haruki-kun]

I don't know why pointing at a mason in this case would be suspicious. Did this person know he was pointing at a Mason?

[Griever]

I don't know why pointing at a mason in this case would be suspicious. Did this person know he was pointing at a Mason?

Day 1, right? Only other masons should know that he was one, unless I'm missing something.

@V *cuts off Free Hand's toes*

[Free Hand]

Well if that is the case and Recaiden is an important character then we can blame Freashmeat for being horribly horribly wrong, course I doubt he could be THAT off, unless he's Kira... it bothers me that its hard to picture him as a werewolf.

It also bothers me that our current goal is to try really hard to not accidentally kill criminals and Masons, and if you're an anti-kira or something then that would be considered a victory of a sort. To succeed in not cutting off our own toes every round!

[Artemis97]

Then I have only one question: now that it's been explicitly pointed out that criminals are the good guys in this game, do you claim to have made a mistake or not?

I am telling you all that Mordokai is a criminal. Despite what I am telling you, I am still pointing at him. If you think that is a mistake, and he is a good guy, I can change my point. In fact, I've done a little thinking, and I'm not going to point at anyone this round.

[Dragoon]

Update on auto-lynches

those with 1
Freshmeat_
Frigs
lamech

those with 2
detrevnisisiht
Moon_Called
Zombie pixe

Also, forewarning update maybe coming up later due to work. I'm hoping not, but no guarantees.

And yes, Ganurath was a criminal

[Freshmeat]

Yes, it is. Opposing someone won't get anyone killed.

Hm, I wouldn't say so. You can still oppose an idea and vote to get someone else lynched instead. It happens all the time. It's only bad when you shoot down certain ideas by default rather than think them over.


Seeing as you have more solid evidence than me at this point...

No more than any of you, actually.


Alright, lets use a second example then. Frigs also pointed at the NPA guy and didn't vote the first day, which could mean that he didn't want to look suspicious for not pointing at the board member, or that he couldn't vote.

I'll have to interrupt you here for a second.
Why would not pointing at the board member be suspicious?


So we could point at him, saying that he didn't know that fleeing coward was a mason, so he must be it.


(even then, it makes banjo suspicious for not knowing that fleeing coward is a NPA)

It makes him mathematically more likely to be a wolf. That is all.


And for the whole pointing at EDK thing, He was accusing people for no reason, and made the first page chaos.

Chaos isn't as bad as it sounds, really. It just needn't grow out of control.

Compare it to today. You've got a certain degree of order, yet this day is pretty much still one huge bandwagon and we're probably not going to learn much from it. Very bad.
Hence why I have to be a little careful where I throw my points around. No worries, I'll provide the counterbandwagon to my own soon enough so we can at least gather something from today's voting.


Well if that is the case and Recaiden is an important character then we can blame Freashmeat for being horribly horribly wrong, course I doubt he could be THAT off, unless he's Kira... it bothers me that its hard to picture him as a werewolf.

And how was I horribly, horribly wrong? I never stated he was a wolf, nor did I ask for anyone to follow my lead. I actually stressed these point quite thoroughly...


There is the possibility that i have a good power role and made a mistake. <- What happened.

Works for me. Can't go wrong with a second bandwagon choice at least, and it's not like a lie would last longer than a few days anyway. And people don't forget easily about lies either (just look at Demonking).

How about bayar?
(interesting how people blatantly wait for me to post the counterbandwagon rather than start one up themselves...)

I'd really appreciate a PM from Recaiden explaining a few things though. It's not like he has much to lose from this position anyway.

[TFT]

I have a feeling that Freshmeats counterwagon will involve me somehow... Oh well, we will cross that bridge when we get to it. bayar, because I don't think this choice will change much anyways.(as in, bandwagon = too powerful) As a side note, since we have close to no information, there is no way to make this lynch count.

[Copacetic]

Point at bayar.

[Mordokai]

Why not? bayar

[Reinholdt]

((Hmm. I'm more suspicious of Vampiric then either of these two so I'll go with him.))

[Freshmeat]

Quick tally, because things are turning out interesting after all:

Recaiden - 7 votes
bayar - 6 votes
rest - whatever

[Bayar]

Quick tally, because things are turning out interesting after all:

Recaiden - 7 votes
bayar - 6 votes
rest - whatever

Wow...since when do people want to lynch me ? I mean, that was more of a random point on the part of freshmeat. But everybody follows him because...why ? (BTW, it is Recaiden 6, bayar 5 :smalltongue:)


How about bayar?
(interesting how people blatantly wait for me to post the counterbandwagon rather than start one up themselves...)


Yup...random point to start another bandwagon.


I have a feeling that Freshmeats counterwagon will involve me somehow... Oh well, we will cross that bridge when we get to it. bayar, because I don't think this choice will change much anyways.(as in, bandwagon = too powerful) As a side note, since we have close to no information, there is no way to make this lynch count.

How can you be so sure ?

And then points at me with the text: "Why not?".




Why not? bayar

Oh, I dunno...maybe because I was one of the people that didnt point at you in the begining...seeing as you are a criminal (part of team good)...


Anyway, point at Recaiden because I dont trust him. He said:

There is the possibility that i have a good power role and made a mistake. <- What happened.

Well then, why did you post once on day one, jumping on the demonking bandwagon? why did you posted once on day 2, jumping on the fleeting coward bandwagon? Why did you post on day 3 only when a bandwagon against you was starting to form ?

[TFT]

I wasn't really expecting the bayar bandwagon to become that big... As a sidenote, I was excpecting the recaidan bandwagon to stay more or less intact, but seeing as Freshmeat has a following (not something I would know being the first WW game I've played with him, second game on the boards : / ) I will change my vote to Frigs, since he has the same voting record as recaidan. (hopefully my last change)

[Murska]

I wasn't really expecting the bayar bandwagon to become that big... As a sidenote, I was excpecting the recaidan bandwagon to stay more or less intact, but seeing as Freshmeat has a following (not something I would know being the first WW game I've played with him, second game on the boards : / ) I will change my vote to Frigs, since he has the same voting record as recaidan. (hopefully my last change)

I sure hope it's your last change... My spreadsheet cries because of today.

[Lamech]

Update on auto-lynches

those with 1
Freshmeat_
Frigs
lamech

those with 2
detrevnisisiht
Moon_Called
Zombie pixe

Also, forewarning update maybe coming up later due to work. I'm hoping not, but no guarantees.

And yes, Ganurath was a criminal
Umm... I pointed today. Am I really that good at flying under the radar?
*Goes to catch up*

[hap_hazard]

Point at Catseye2121.

[Recaiden]

Point at Catseye2121.

Why? just because they changed their vote?

[Dragoon]

Just a heads up, day 3 is over in an hour. Update will come in about 6 hours, due to work.

That is my current auto-lynch notice, you didn't vote the first time that I know of, hap_hazard.

[Dragoon]

The accusation when wild, a few of the guard wanted to speak, but it became obvious they weren't allowed to interfere, one guards took Recaiden into another room, before everyone's favorite guard got ahold of him. A few sighs of relief escaped from people, at least this one won't be killed.

"I need to ask you a few questions, Recaiden. Here, you might want this to drink." Quiet a few people were standing next to the door, trying to listen. Two of guards interpose themselves between the door and everyone else.
"What's your name, sir. I'm pretty sure John Smith is an alias." Recaiden's response isn't heard by anyone outside of the room.
"I think I can tell everyone that hold on." Loud coughing erupted from the room as the guard rushed out. "Sir, he needs help, he drink was poisoned." A few more quickly get into the room, everyone is nervous, wondering who could have done it.
"L, its up to you." Recaiden crawled out before collapsing in front of everyone.
"Listen, everyone, we will make sure that the food and drink for everyone else is safe. Please leave this room quickly and calmly." The other guard usher everyone out, failing to calm down anyone.

Artemis97 last few days had been hard on her, as she returned to her room. She held L Lawliet tie, which one of the guards gave to her the day before. She received a text message, which passed on horrible news. No, not now, this can't be happening. Tears were streaming down her face. This should have worked. Why did you three have to die? I'm sorry L Lawliet, I didn't think it would have to come to this. Why did you come Near? I could see Mello trying to prove himself, but not you. And now Watari is dead...

"Excuse me, L, I wanted to verify a couple of things." The guard walked in and was striken with horror. The one person the guards believed could have caught Kira had hung herself. He had ran from the room and quickly let the other guards know about the situation, unfortunately, a few people heard and it had spread quickly. The guards were silent, lost in their own thoughts, ignoring the rest of the people. Trying not to be jumpy.

Recaiden was lynched, he was Near.
Artemis97 hung herself, she was L.

Night 3 will end in 24 hours. Possibly earlier if I get all the actions early. Also, those that are auto-lynched will have something happen at the start of the next day. Though if I do start the day early, it most likely means it will last longer than 48 hours.

[Bayar]

Recaiden was lynched, he was Near.
Artemis97 hung herself, she was L.


Oh crap. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek:
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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek:

[Artemis97]

*sigh* I knew that was coming. Nice touch with the hanging, though. I was expecting a heart attack, to be honest.

Kira, whoever you are, you work fast, or got real lucky. Well played. Enjoy the rest of the game everyone. It was fun while it lasted. Maybe I'll do better in my next game.

*runs off to prepare for Spytrap*

[TFT]

My RP buddy :smallfrown: I should at least do something, seeing as my character gave you the marble...

A guard enters catseye's room. He shows a blue marble in his right palm. We found this on artemis' corpse. Since we let you in with some marbles... I thought you would like it back.

Catseye takes the marble. A wave of sadness comes upon him and he sits on his bed. He vacantly stares at the wall. The only person I actually trusted here... Gone. I must stop Kira, before he kills another. He puts the blue marble on a desk he had been given. I will stop Kira.

[Recaiden]

( I did't think that Artemis was really L. Well i guess it's up to Mellow now. Sorry.)

[Haruki-kun]

L AND Near???

DAMN IT!
:smallmad:

[Murska]

Holy crap. If that had really happened in Death Note, the following events would have been quite different.

[Free Hand]

I agree, there would be alot more dialog and staring. Anyway... so what now? I don't think this could have gotten any worse.

[Vampiric]

Very true. Unless, somehow, Mello gets in contact with the board members. As Freshmeat_ said earlier, until the Kiras are dead, team Yotsuba are pretty much allies.

[Recaiden]

I agree, there would be alot more dialog and staring. Anyway... so what now? I don't think this could have gotten any worse.

( He could have gotten Mello 2 days ago and told him to kill himself today also. )

[Dragoon]

The guards paced the area, trying to prevent everyone from trying panicing, after all, with L dead, who everyone had thought of being impossible to kill, now was gone. The worst part was his replacement, Near had been lynched. At the rate the lynching was going, Kira could just sit there and laugh at the poor fools.

Moon_Called had been sitting at a table, looking over some information, when a quiet knock interrupted her reading. "Excuse me, miss, you need to come with me right away." Surprised, but trusting the guard, they quickly go through the door and past the room where the "arrested" were questioned. "We found out that L never wanted you here in the first place, we need you to leave immediately, there is a car waiting for you." She stared at him stunned. "Go before others realize what we are doing. Stay safe." She nodded and walked out quietly relieved that she might still be able to do something even if Kira wins.

Sitting in his room drinking, trying hard not to let the hopelessness get to him. A knock on his door and a guard walked in without speaking. "Sorry, to interrupt, Reno, I just need to check your drink for poison first." He takes the bottle and drink more than half of it. Reno glares at the man, as he is about to complain, he collapses to the floor, he looks up at the guard, who runs out of the room, paniced, not believing that he would see this happening. "Sir, Kira just struck, Reno died." The guards did a quick search, revealing him as Kurosaki Naruto, one of the boardmembers of the Yotsuba Corporation. Few slept peacefully, though one of the guards could have sworn he heard someone muttering "delete, delete" but could not place who.

The uneasy quiet was broken with detrevnisisiht, running out of his room yelling, "Shinigami, exist, and it'll kill anyone that doesn't- His comment cut off before he could finish, as he collapsed, Zombie pixe also collasped with his eyes as wide as possible. The guards tried to keep order, yet a few were arguing to let everyone go. One of the guards got everyone's attention, "There is still hope, both L and Near are gone yes, but Mello is still alive, and he has something different that the other two, believe that he can pull everyone through." While most do not think much of Mello, that he was still alive, and that the guards had the weapons, kept chaos from exploding.

banjo1985 was killed, he was a Board Member
Moon_Called had withdrawn, and if she was a powerrole, it was reassigned
detrevnisisiht was auto-lynched, he was Anti-Kira
Zombie pixe was auto-lynched, he was Anti-Kira

Day 4 begins and will end in about 53 hours.

[TFT]

Shadowcaller, I saw you near most of the poisened drinks. I believe you are the one who poisened Reno and Recaiden. Why?

I should probably explain a bit... Shadowcaller used two random points the first day, and then didn't point on day three. I think he is trying to lay low for some reason, and that he is a Kira.

[Shadowcaller]

"Think I'm hiding from you? In all this chaos I'm mearly trying to survive, everyone that has sticked their nose out have been killed. Now you accuse me for poisoning those two poor people? I didin't even knew about all this "Light" business untill those guards dragged me in here.
If there is anyone thats suspicious."

((I vote for Fleeing Coward since well if he is a wolf they will win unless we lynch him:smallwink:.))

Edit: Fleeing Coward, dead already? Well then I will just wait and see then...

[V.Z.]

Ever since the last day ended, Seira has sat against the wall, her knees pulled up and her arms wrapped around them. While they can't be seen, there is hollow look in her eyes. Both L and Near gone. And with them the greatest chance of catching Kira. And last night had seen its share of deaths as well. "So now it's up to the NPA and this Mello, hmm?" She mumbles and just stares at the ground, not feeling too hopeful, but still hoping for the best.

((Shadowcaller: You know FC is already dead, right? :smalltongue:

Ok, I'm back. Hadn't been active during the last day because I wasn't feeling too well. Been looking at the pointing a bit and I must say there a few I suspect:
bayar
Free Hand
Saint Nill
During the last two days these pointed at a convenient death for Kira. I'm not counting first day posts as there is no way anyone other than the Yotsuba could have known ED was a board member. While only based on two days of voting, I don't think we have many other things to go by right now.

There are some others who voted for a convenient death for Kira on day 2 without, as far I can remember, any reason at all. We (or most) don't know what the roles of the others they pointed at are, so I guess we could give them the benefit of the doubt for now, but I'm watching you. :smalltongue:

And thus ends my other theorizing thingy. I hope it doesn't get me killed, again. :smallannoyed::smallbiggrin:))

[Reinholdt]

Reinholdt pulls out another apple and looks at it. "Hmm. It's rotten. Just like this trap." Reinholdt tosses it aside and it lands at Saint Nil's feet.

[Haruki-kun]

I really haven't been looking forward to this, I know perfectly well that there's always a chance one could be wrong, but I think it's time for someone to step up and try something new for a change, especially considering half of our power roles are gone now.

I want you all to take a look at the following records:

We lynched Near. No point denying that now. We can hate ourselves for it, or we can analyze it properly: Who led a massive bandwagon on someone and jumped OFF the bandwagon before it hit the ground?

Freshmeat_ did. He leads a Bandwagon on a power role, and then a few hours before the day ends, he pulls back. The lynching was led by him, but his hands are clean, aren't they? No blood in sight? I don't think so.

It's easy to pull out of a bandwagon at the last second. It's much harder to turn it around. Freshmeat knows this. On day 7, anyone looking back at the records would think "Oh, but Freshmeat wasn't on the bandwagon, was he?"

I believe Freshmeat is a Kira, led the bandwagon, then brushed the evidence under the table and walked out cleanly. I'm not 100% sure of my theories EVER, but I think 70% sure is all I need.

[Szilard]

Freashmeat_ sounds suspicious...

[Vampiric]

Well, can't help but see the irony... Freshmeat_


Random General Knowledge :smalltongue:
(I never knew this, but did any of you know that the founder of Honda was Soichiro Honda? I guess it's pretty obvious really, but I never thought to figure it out. huh.)

[Freshmeat]

*stares at post*
*watches it crumble into dust*

Oh wait, it doesn't that work like that anymore. Sorry, my bad.


First of all, your theory relies on me knowing Near's identity and somehow deciding to purposefully lynch him, rather than the far more convenient Death Note method. Likely? Not very.

Secondly: "I pulled out a few hours before the day ended?"
A few hours? Let's see if that claim checks out at all:

This is when I changed my vote: 07-30-2008 04:35 AM
This is when the day ended: Yesterday [07-31-2008] 07:23 AM

Nope, doesn't check out. Not in the least.
Unless you consider 27 hours 'a few hours'.

So I redirected the bandwagon way before the day ended. I even posted a quick tally to prove that all it'd take was one or two people to switch their vote to save Recaiden. So the wolf ploy I'm accused of hinges on me somehow being able to magically predict that not a single person out of around 23 players would change his vote during a timeframe of over a day. Quite inplausible.

Heck, I'm pretty much the only person still alive who's been trying since day one to avoid power role casualties here.


Since I'm pretty much required to post an alternative target here, I'll go with Vampiric today, for various reasons (although nothing concrete yet). Vote for whoever you want, but keep in mind that the entire argument 'against' me has just irrefutably been proven to be incorrect and actually only really further understates my efforts thus far.

[Griever]

Murska! I need someone to point at... any ideas?

[Lamech]

First of all, your theory relies on me knowing Near's identity and somehow deciding to purposefully lynch him, rather than the far more convenient Death Note method. Likely? Not very.
You could be Light and didn't get his name. Have to point that out.


Catseye2121 because I don't like his voting record. (Why else?)

[Free Hand]

Freshmeat has the most points on him, we have to think. Do we really want to lynch him? Personally I still distrust him and find some of his actions suspicious but I wont pursue this right now because... I don't know, a little doubt is creeping into me about it.

So thoughts anyone? To lynch or not? We might be bagging the big bad wolf or bending over for them, two rather extreme outcomes of this.

[TFT]

So what exactly is wrong with my voting record?

And shadow, I relooked at your voting pattern, and decided to pull off my vote. I had to do it last night, because I was fairly sure... Oh well. And you are also right about anyone who stuck out their head the first couple of days...

[Murska]

Actually. I think Freshmeat makes sense, and lynching a good player like him wouldn't be good for us. Vampiric.

[Lamech]

Your not a board member (as you got Demonking lynched) and you changed your vote from the counter-bandwagon that could have saved Near, to a person who clearly wouldn't die later in the day. Also you seem to be avoiding the main bandwagons. Its not proof but its the best I have. You have something better?

[TFT]

Well, as a sidenote, since this is my first game, I didn't want to make a mistake and accidentally kill a good guy. And I have been avoiding ALL main bandwagons, including Near, the board members, and villagers. So wouldn't it make sense that I don't know anything, and am just a villager? And as for the proof, I do know a target of Kiras, but I really can't say.

[Copacetic]

Hmm..... Vampiric.

[Reinholdt]

((I believe I mentioned my suspicion of Vampiric last time, so I'm changing my vote to him.))

[Shadowcaller]

((Well Vampiric was the third man on the freshmeat bandwagon. And since its a old saying here on the forum thatr "the third man in a bandwagon is a wolf". This means either Frigs or Vampiric is a wolf, I think I will go with...
Vampiric.))

[Dragoon]

Quick update on auto-lynches
Those that have one warning (people may have been on this list before)
Freshmeat_
Frigs
lamech
Shadowcaller
V.Z.

[Free Hand]

((Well Vampiric was the third man on the freshmeat bandwagon. And since its a old saying here on the forum thatr "the third man in a bandwagon is a wolf". This means either Frigs or Vampiric is a wolf, I think I will go with...
Vampiric.))

Never heard of that before. Thinking about it I don't feel like having the death of an innocent Freshmeat on my back as a possible tie breaker in this for the moment so I'm willing to see if theres anything right in Meats suspicions about Vampiric.

And so I point at Vampiric

[hap_hazard]

*points at Vampiric*

[V.Z.]

(( Both for the sake of preventing autolynch and for being randomly chosen from my little list of aformentioned suspects I'm going to point at bayar. As I said before, his voting pattern (as well as Saint Nill's and Free Hand's), short as it may be is enough reason for suspicion from me. Also, I'm not jumping on the Vampiric bandwagon because I see no evidence against him whatsoever (if there is, aside from the "old Okinawa Playground saying", please enlighten me) and while I think the evidence against Freshmeat_ does make some sense, I'm not out on that one yet. ))

[Bayar]

V.Z.. yeah, I agree with you on day 2, I could have pointed at Ganurath, but didnt wanted to kill off a veteran. But on day 3, it was only self preservation. I mean, what would you do if you were the second biggest bandwagon of the day ? Point to the other guy.

Also, random point back to you.

[Saint Nil]

Vampric(Stupid real life getting in the way of my gametime:smallmad:)

[Mordokai]

bayar, because Vampiric bandwagon is already big enough.

[Raistlin1040]

Bayar

(Sorry, tired, no time for RP today.)

[TFT]

Quick point change to Reinholdt... No reason, just because.

[Murska]

Quick point change to Reinholdt... No reason, just because.

My spreadsheet cries itself to sleep because of you. :smallbiggrin:

[Dragoon]

People were quiet as they separated from Vampiric, who was taken in by everyone's favorite guard to the room. Everyone anxiously crowded around the guards who were hoping to avoid violence again. "So, Vampiric, looks like your comrades out there think you are up to funny busiiness." Everyone can hear pacing inside the room.
"He isn't armed is he?"
"Don't worry, he's not, and I doubt he's going to eat or drink anything in there, even though it's safe." He gently explains.

"Hmm, muttering, you want a writing utensil, Vampiric, sure you can have one. What do you mean God's will though? Are you trying to accuse me of something by writing my name-" The conversation is interrupted as the closest guard breaks into the room and fires upon Vampiric, critically injuring him as he falls out of his chair.
"God, I, I, failed..." He collapsed, blood pouring out of his wound.
"God?! Who is God?" The guard close the door and keep everyone in the main room as they search Vampiric's room. One of the guards walks out and looks terrorified.
"What the hell is that?" The room goes silent watching the guard go slightly crazy. "You're a shinigami, what type of joke is this?" The book one of the guards is holding passed around to others. They all seem transfixed by something. Freshmeat_ walks up to the head guard, "Is that Kira's weapon?"
"Yes, it is." The guards takes a deep breath and says, "It's seems this book is owned by a death god, aka Shinigami, his name is Ryuuk. We'll be examining this book to find out who Vampiric truly was. His real name is Hashimoto Sora, does anyone know that name?"
Mordokai responds, "If he's the same guy, then he was an attorney in the area."
"Must be Mikami, Kira's true successor." Unseen by anyone, Misa pouts.

Vampiric was lynched, he was Mikami.

Night 4 will end in 18-30 hours, depends on if I get all the night actions early enough.

Also, keep it up Catseyes, I want to see more of the spreadsheet crying.

[Murska]

Yes! Finally some progress!

[banjo1985]

Yay's I is dead! Oh well, have a good game guys. :smallbiggrin:

[Vampiric]

Awww, crap. I go away to UKitP and come back to find you've all lynched me.

Oh well.

MWAAHAHAHAHAHA! :smallamused:

[TFT]

My spreadsheet cries itself to sleep because of you. :smallbiggrin:

I apologize... I don't mean to change points, it just happens.

[Dragoon]

It was just as quiet as last night, though for the remaining Kira, it was much more tense, Mikami had died. The guards kept up constant watch as quite a few people stayed up, planning and trying to guess who was the person they needed to stop.

Morning came, and the guards were in good spirits, no one had died, that they had known of. The relief was evident in their voices.

No one died last night, Day 5 ends in 48 hours.

[TFT]

Point at Reinholdt for no reason(weird, isn't it)

[Freshmeat]

Let's see where V.Z.'s loyalties lie.
I believe him to be Kira.

[Reinholdt]

((Catseye2121 for pointing at me two days in a row for "no reason". That's suspicious.))

[TFT]

Its a random point, no need to point that finger at me. And if I really wanted a bandwagon on you, wouldn't I have given reasoning?

[V.Z.]

Let's see where V.Z.'s loyalties lie.
I believe him to be Kira.


((First off, who's him? :smalltongue: Second: On what did you base this belief of yours, if not Kira control? Two days (day 1 and 3) I have not pointed, for which the reasons have been explained. My first point was a random one to cause a tie, assuming none would die if that happened. Much to my regret, my assumptions were wrong. My fourth point was at bayar because he was one of my suspects (based on voting pattern) and randomly selected from them. So how exactly did your suspicion of me being Kira arise? Since you pointed at Vampiric (who was Mikami) and didn't make any attempts at all to stop the following bandwagon, I have some trust you are not Kira (unless you didn't know he was Mikami, but that'd be awfully risky) and won't point at you. But let me say that if I'd be bandwagoned and lynched because of that point of yours, you'd have wasted a day. For now, random point at Szilard. May be changed later on. ))

[Murska]

I feel like... I somehow... got to follow Freshmeat for some reason. V.Z

[Free Hand]

I feel like... I somehow... have to point at Murska.

To put it shortly, I suspect Freshmeat may be controlled at this point if he isn't a Kira. I am still suspicious of Freshmeat despite his recent success. I'm willing to admit that it is possible that the wolves have ignored meat until now because they were trying to get us to lynch him out of doubt and distrust, but the rewards of that risk evaporated as did Vampiric's role in the game.

We all must remember that this game has no banner protection, this leads me to wonder why he is still alive? I mean he pretty much won our loyalty with his point, there is little doubt that he could be a wolf. So why his he still alive!?

Either hes a Kira that decided that sacrificing one of his fellows was necessary to protect his reputation in the game or he's being controlled at th moment and killing V.Z. may well be a very very bad idea. I don't really believe an intelligent wolf would leap on their own bandwagon so soon but since no one else has quite yet, perhaps this is an attempt to give it some momentum as others have ignored it to till this point.

Once again I'm pointing at Murska.

[Saint Nil]

Since I'm likely to get killed and controlled by the Death Note tomorrow (or one of these days), allow me to share with you the following, extremely simple contingency plan:

Whatever I say tomorrow: don't listen to me.

Whoever I point at will get lynched, so even the most basic of Death Note commands will probably result in an innocent getting killed, null sweat. It's true that I may figure out a way to bypass the commands on the spot by taking advantage of ambiguous rules and the like, but it's much safer to simply set up something in advance.

If you post this message, delete the first paragraph and start the message from 'since I'm likely to...'.

If I don't get Death Note-controlled, I'll send you a PM within 2 hours of posting any accusation I make. In such an eventuality I'll find a way to convince you that I'm not being controlled by Kira.

That is all.

Everyone, Freshmeat was afraid of this, and that is why he told me to post this message if anything like this happened. He sent me this because of Recaiden's confimation of myself being an innocent. Please, we must avoid playing into the Kira's hands, and not point at V.Z. Also, Murska, please change your point. Unfortunatly, I have NO IDEA who to point at, with 2 of our seers gone, this game is taking a turn for the worse. The last thing we need to do is make it even easier for the Kiras.

EDIT-Following Reinholdt on this, Griever, will change if more evidence is given.

[Reinholdt]

Its a random point, no need to point that finger at me. And if I really wanted a bandwagon on you, wouldn't I have given reasoning?

((Forgive me if I have trouble believing that. Randomly pointing at the same person the last two days in a row is a (1/17)*(1/18)=1/306 chance.

But that's an aside. For now I think we should ignore Freshmeat like Saint Nil suggests. Murska seems off, too. I'm pretty sure he sides with Freshmeat when there's logical logic involved. Besides, there are still two Kira's running around and they could have saved a name or two for later days.

I'm changing my point to Griever. He's been quietly under the radar.))

[Griever]

Szilard, since I'm just as much a villager as anyone Freshmeat happens to be pointed at, surely.

[Haruki-kun]

I find Griever to be as suspicious as Murska (that is, not very much.) If I had to pick, and I do, I'd go with Murska.

[Bayar]

Yup. definately Murska. He pointed at V.Z. because Freshmeat did. Dont trust him...

[Murska]

Okay, I seem to be getting wagoned so... Hey, I'd change my point... But meh. There's some little problems with that particular course of action. :smallfrown:

[TFT]

I'm going to tell you guys that by my count we probably have 3 people controlled by deathnotes... but we'll see.

[V.Z.]

(( Hmm, if Murska speaks the truth, then Light and Misa have made probably made contact by now, and Freshmeat_ and Murska are controlled by them to lynch me. I doubt either of the two pointing at me today is Kira. Freshmeat_ sacrificing Mikami to gain our trust seems unlikely, as that way he also would have cut off a third of his power, leaving him with only one ally (remember that though Higuchi is a Kira, he also counts as a criminal and thus is an enemy of Team Kira). And Murska? Again, it depends if he speaks the truth. He could be trying to trick us, but in either case, lynching him would probably be a safe course of action. If he's controlled he'd die anyway. We wouldn't have caught a Kira, but we'd also have no unnecessary casualties. If he isn't controlled, it's highly unlikely he has a reason to pretend to be controlled and is likely a Kira. Then again, if they're both a Kira target (Mello, criminal or NPA) we might be better off with lynching someone who might be a Kira, though that might be thinking through too far.

Leaving my vote as it is for now. Will probably change later on. ))

[Murska]

Or I might be controlled AND a Kira. :smalltongue:

[Reinholdt]

He could be trying to trick us, but in either case, lynching him would probably be a safe course of action. If he's controlled he'd die anyway. We wouldn't have caught a Kira, but we'd also have no unnecessary casualties.

I agree with most of your post, except this part. If we waste a kill on somebody who's already dead, then that's another night for the Kira's to spy and kill. It's always a detriment to waste a lynching.

[Murska]

Seriously though. If I was on the Kira team, why would I do something like what I've done? I could go under the radar and point at someone at random...

[Raistlin1040]

Zigmund Tyler looks at the situation carefully. He glances at Freshmeat.

He's supposed to be smart right? Usually has an explaination for everything. So this accusation, out of nowhere, with no evidence seems out of place. There's a definate chance Freshmeat is being controlled by Kira. It's possible I'm wrong, and if I am, then we can resume our sheep-like following of Freshmeat tomorrow. Now this Murska character, I don't believe him to be a Kira. After all, Kira wouldn't be stupid enough to jump on a bandwagon without evidence. I believe he's smart enough to know that a hollow argument like Freshmeat's would merely draw suspicion, and he would only cast some of it upon himself by joining it.

I think Murska is just an ordinary person, who maybe didn't think things through enough, and joined Freshmeat by the logic that he is a smart man.

I admit, I am not particularly suspicious of Griever. Catseye intrigues me more, as his seemingly random points could be a ploy to decieve us into thinking he's harmless. However, as I am fairly certain Murska is innocent, and I'm not sure either way about Griever, I'll point at him for now.

[Lamech]

I doubt very much team evil would sacrifice a Kira, Light can't always night kill he doesn't get the name all the time. So close to half team evils kills are gone. Plus the board still has there night kill.

Also Murska followed Freshmeat. Freshmeat found a Kira last day, and now he's using stronger language, that seems like a pretty walid reason to follow Freshmeat.


I'm going to tell you guys that by my count we probably have 3 people controlled by deathnotes... but we'll see.
The Higuchi is probably saving up names, he just wants to survive. It would make sense to create a bigger crowd to hide in. Unless he targets a Kira or power role he has no reason to start killing. Or if he could reduce the the living to less than the board, then he would start killing to win. Also Light doesn't get the names all the time.
See here

Light Yagami- You are the original, and “fell” for L’s trap, though you brought your allies. Everyday you can determine someone’s role and possibly their real name. L, Near, and Mello see Light as a villager.

Now Murska helped lynch Vampiric, so that probably makes him not too likely...
Lets go with Griever.