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afroakuma
2008-10-28, 05:22 PM
My own blatant thievery of Zeta Kai's Vote Up A Monster! This contest aims to create a D&D villain, complete with fluff! Please bold your vote.

This round's villain has been completed! I present to you the Maiden's Weeping (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5213912&postcount=261), aka the Swain of Varrone.


Currently Voting on: Voting Closed, Villain Complete

1. Type: Plant


{table=head]Type|Votes
Aberration|5
Animal|1
Construct|
Dragon|
Elemental|2
Fey|5
Giant|
Humanoid|
Magical Beast|
Monstrous Humanoid|
Ooze|1
Outsider|1
Plant|14
Undead|1
Vermin|
[/table]

2. Race/Species: Unique (Floral)
Vote for any plant monster from any 3.5 WotC source. The current table contains only plant monsters from the Monster Manual. If you vote for a creature in another source, please list that source with your vote.

{table=head]Plant Genus|Votes
Assassin Vine|
Phantom Fungus|
Shambling Mound|1
Shrieker|
Tendriculos|
Treant|2
Violet Fungus|
Unique (Floral)|16
Unique (Fungal)|10
Unique (Ligneous)|
[/table]

2b. Class: N/A
May be skipped at afroakuma's discretion based on result of previous vote. You may vote for other classes, but please bear in mind that certain classes have been disallowed. Non-core classes are italicized.

{table=head]Class|Votes|Class|Votes
Artificier||Ninja (new)|
Barbarian||Paladin|
Bard||Psion|
Beguiler||Psychic Warrior|
Cleric||Ranger|
Crusader||Rogue|
Druid||Samurai (new)|
Duskblade||Scout|
Favored Soul||Sorcerer|
Fighter||Swordsage|
Healer||Warblade|
Hexblade||Warlock|
Matador (new)||Wilder|
Marshal||Wizard|
Monk||None|
[/table]


3. CR: 13

{table=head]CR|Votes
1|
2|
3|
4|1
5|
6|1
7|
8|1
9|1
10|7
11|
12|
13|8
14|4
15|
16|
17|
18|
19|
20|5
[/table]

4. Alignment: Neutral Evil

{table=head]Alignment|Votes|Alignment|Votes|Alignment|Votes
Lawful Good|7|Neutral Good||Chaotic Good|
Lawful Neutral||Neutral|3|Chaotic Neutral|4
Lawful Evil||Neutral Evil|9|Chaotic Evil|2
[/table]

5. Primary Motivation: Love

{table=head]Motivation|Votes
Hunger|1
Survival|2
Envy|
Rage|1
Spite|
Love|11
Arrogance|
Logic|
Greed|
Selfishness|
Apathetic malice|1
Depression|
Curiosity|2
Insanity|
Justice|
Revenge|
Order|1
Anarchy|
Greater good|1
Self-loathing|
Malevolence|
Punch-clock villainy|10
[/table]

puppyavenger
2008-10-28, 05:27 PM
go-go eldritch horror!
Aberation

Xallace
2008-10-28, 05:27 PM
Zeta Kai has started something quite large. I vote Plant.

Owrtho
2008-10-28, 05:30 PM
Hmm, well I'll go ahead and vote for Undead. Also, on the motive chart you forgot boredom. After all, thats what motivates the best villans.

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-10-28, 05:31 PM
Apathetic malice covers that.

Votes tallied.

Shadow_Elf
2008-10-28, 05:39 PM
Plant! I want to see a malevolent tree

Owrtho
2008-10-28, 05:40 PM
But that requires a desire to harm others. A villan motivated by boredom might just want to stir things up so they aren't bored anymore (for example if they are in power they could pass some akward laws that make everyone hate them but cause no real harm. Like making it manditory to great people with "I'm gunna kill you!" while waving a weapon).

Also, since it seeing the other votes I'm going to change mine from undead to ooze. I might change it later to plant or abberation though (after all, eldritch horrors are awsome and so can be plant monsters).

Owrtho

KingGolem
2008-10-28, 05:46 PM
I vote for plant too. You don't see many of those these days.

afroakuma
2008-10-28, 05:47 PM
That is malice. Wanting to cause a disturbance to others. The apathetic part is the boredom.

But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

I've checkedthe changed votes and tallied them. In the future, please bold your vote... makes it go quicker. Thanks!

ErrantX
2008-10-28, 05:53 PM
I vote up Fey, they're neat and full of eldritch horror in their own special way.

-X

Fako
2008-10-28, 05:56 PM
You're great at coming up with out-of-this-world things, so I vote Aberration

streakster
2008-10-28, 06:26 PM
Plant! We must have more evil plants!

Bakkan
2008-10-28, 06:48 PM
I'm going to go ahead and vote for Fey. Evil fairies!

afroakuma
2008-10-28, 06:58 PM
Votes tallied.

Lorien077
2008-10-28, 07:02 PM
I also vote fey: I have yet to see a really good evil fey villain in DnD.

afroakuma
2008-10-28, 07:08 PM
Monster Manual V: The Frostwind Virago. Hans Christian Andersen's "The Snow Queen" in D&D form.

Thane of Fife
2008-10-28, 07:28 PM
I think an Elemental would be intriguing, personally. There are all sorts of weird things to be an elemental of.

puppyavenger
2008-10-28, 07:32 PM
I think an Elemental would be intriguing, personally. There are all sorts of weird things to be an elemental of.

the dreaded alemental?

Blue Ghost
2008-10-28, 07:36 PM
I cast my vote for undead.

wadledo
2008-10-28, 07:42 PM
Aberration Plant!:smallbiggrin:

puppyavenger
2008-10-28, 07:43 PM
Aberration! !:smallbiggrin:

fixed that for you

Saint Nil
2008-10-28, 07:45 PM
Hmm, should I vote Fey or Aberretion. I do love mind flayers.Aberretion.

Knaight
2008-10-28, 08:14 PM
Elemental please.

aaron_the_cow
2008-10-28, 08:19 PM
I must say PLANT

afroakuma
2008-10-28, 08:21 PM
Wadledo, two types is unfortunately forbidden. Please choose a single one.

All other votes tallied.

Copacetic
2008-10-28, 08:34 PM
Aberation. Yes.

Leliel
2008-10-28, 08:37 PM
Plant-partially beacuse that's where the votes are going, partially beacuse the idea of a photosynthetic villain is awesome.

Kellus
2008-10-28, 08:42 PM
To mix things up, here's another vote for Fey.

Reverent-One
2008-10-28, 08:48 PM
I'll throw in my vote for plant.

Ghill
2008-10-28, 08:51 PM
I am going to vote Plant, because I want to see a villain with roots.

afroakuma
2008-10-28, 08:56 PM
Plant seems to be the current favorite.

Baron Corm
2008-10-28, 09:13 PM
Voting for animal just because of the implications. It would be interesting to see a terrifying villain made out of something that isn't sentient.


Zeta Kai has started something quite large. I vote Plant.

You mean The Vorpal Tribble (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44637) :smallbiggrin:.

Zeta Kai
2008-10-28, 09:31 PM
Actually, I never heard of VT's Monster of the Masses, but I'm not surprised that such a thing has been done before. I'm glad people like my approach to this method of monster (or in this case, villain) creation.

As for my vote (yay, I get to vote on something!), I'm gonna add another one to Plant. It's an intriguing notion, one that I'm sure will yield interesting results.

Debihuman
2008-10-28, 09:56 PM
oohhh if I am allowed to vote too I pick plant. I've loved plant monsters ever since I watched Day of the Triffids as a kid.

Debby

thegurullamen
2008-10-28, 11:24 PM
Fey fey fey feyfeyfeyfey fey feyfeyfey feyfey fey. And plant is good too.

streakster
2008-10-28, 11:41 PM
oohhh if I am allowed to vote too I pick plant. I've loved plant monsters ever since I watched Day of the Triffids as a kid.

Debby

Hooray for triffids!

Seriously, that was a fun movie.

Somber Requiem
2008-10-29, 12:16 AM
Type: Plant
Class: Druid
CR: 20
Alignment: NE
Modivation: Rage against civilization

arguskos
2008-10-29, 01:53 AM
Needs more Aberration.

-argus

vegetalss4
2008-10-29, 02:01 AM
What's that that's growing over there? Its the support for the EVIL PLANT

sigurd
2008-10-29, 02:16 AM
The Corrupting Lazarus plant. It corrupts and takes over the mind of those that inhale its spores but the spores have rejuvenating properties on physical cells. Those that have been attacked by the plant do not suffer any penalty for age for one full year. The power of the spores works in their bodies repairing and changing them.

Those that resist the plant's attacks are changed such that they have an increased chance of corruption each successive time.

The plant is actually the best attainable cure for some diseases.

It is deadly to all life but even more immediately destructive to the undead. Undead in the presence of Lazarus spores decompose at 25 times the normal rate as the spores compost the unnaturally animated flesh.

Lazarus zombies actually seek out undead hosts to begin a new plant.

Sigurd.

cnsvnc
2008-10-29, 04:28 AM
Everybody Loves Poison Ivy!

pondshadow
2008-10-29, 05:40 AM
Plant, it can excrete pheromones that make everyone enraged and try to kill each other. Their bodies become fertilizer.

Lord_Gareth
2008-10-29, 06:53 AM
Nothing says plants can't be sentient, folks.

However, I've gotta vote for Unique Outsider (Native) - see Illurien, in MM5, for an example of a unique outsider.

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 07:26 AM
Voting for Type has ended and the winner is: Plant.

Next, vote this creature's Species.

Lord_Gareth
2008-10-29, 07:29 AM
Unique (Floral) - Evil flower of DEEEEAAATH!

Owrtho
2008-10-29, 07:35 AM
Unique (Floral) since nothing says awsome plant monster like a huge buch covered in maneating flowers.

Owrtho

Xallace
2008-10-29, 07:59 AM
Yep, another for Unique (Floral). Feel the terror.

cnsvnc
2008-10-29, 08:33 AM
As I said, Poison Ivy (floral) for the win!

UnChosenOne
2008-10-29, 08:50 AM
Ther can't be never enuff evil plant's so Unique (Floral).

Thane of Fife
2008-10-29, 08:57 AM
I'll vote Treant, I suppose.

Get some variety.

Ghill
2008-10-29, 09:06 AM
I vote Unique(Floral) because it is the best!

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 09:16 AM
Again with an early leader.

Admittedly, there is some precedent for an evil treant...*cough*Exdeath*cough*

streakster
2008-10-29, 09:23 AM
I'm bucking the trend, here...I want Unique (Fungal).

MattR
2008-10-29, 09:47 AM
Unique (Fungal)

I want a villian that will grow on us.

puppyavenger
2008-10-29, 09:49 AM
unique(fungal)

Dragonus45
2008-10-29, 10:16 AM
Unique(Floral)

Reverent-One
2008-10-29, 10:30 AM
Unique (Fungal)

HOHOHAHAHEEHEE
2008-10-29, 10:53 AM
Treant Druid that summons....MORE TREANTS!

Bakkan
2008-10-29, 10:59 AM
Unique (Floral) gets my vote

Fako
2008-10-29, 11:04 AM
I vote for Unique(Floral), as the idea of a killer flower is crazy enough for my players to not know what to do with it...

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 11:06 AM
Again, folks, please bold your votes, it makes it much easier to run through quickly. Thank you.

Leliel
2008-10-29, 11:08 AM
Unique Floral, beacuse that idea is cool.

thegurullamen
2008-10-29, 11:26 AM
Look at the Unique Floral arrangement. What botanists we have here!

Zeta Kai
2008-10-29, 11:53 AM
I'm gonna throw my vote behind Unique (Floral). I'd like to see a BBEG that's somewhat similar to a sentient version of my Poison Ivy from Resident Evil D20.

arguskos
2008-10-29, 12:32 PM
Unique (Fungal) please.

-argus

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 01:51 PM
Species voting will continue until 0000 EST (2100 PST, 2300 CST, 0500 GMT, 1030 IST, 1300 PRC/AWST, 1400 JST) tonight. After that cutoff, please begin voting for CR. Votes for Species posted after the stated time will be ignored.

Lyndworm
2008-10-29, 02:14 PM
I'm going to have to go with Unique (Floral). I want a flower, not a plant with flowers. Yes, it matters.

Zack

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 02:33 PM
What, like Audrey II?

Vadin
2008-10-29, 02:40 PM
Sha-sha-SHAMBLING MOUND!

Lyndworm
2008-10-29, 03:47 PM
What, like Audrey II?

Technically speaking, Audrey II wasn't even close to a flower, and I'm not talking about his singing voice.

I meant more like a single plant with a single flower, as opposed to a mass of deadly but beautiful vines, or a sapient rose bush.

I'm cool with anything, of course. I just wanted to see a 12ft flower tearing people apart.

Zack

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 03:52 PM
*shrug* Assassin Vine didn't catch the vote. I'd probably go closer to a chronolily than a Daisy Giant, though.

vegetalss4
2008-10-29, 04:43 PM
i vote for Unique (Floral)

Saint Nil
2008-10-29, 05:09 PM
Unique(Fungus). Seroulsy, I like a monster that attacked you, then speard spores on your body, turining you into its on personal guard.

Shadow_Elf
2008-10-29, 05:27 PM
Unique [Fungal].
Mushroom Man taking over the world = awesome in a box.
What? He's a Fun-Guy! [/bad pun]

obvious pun
2008-10-29, 05:35 PM
The party just ran through the entire lava filled dungeon, all nearly dead after beating the dragon turtle you sent after them on that bridge. Then, in the final room, where the person you came to save was supposed to be...

"Sorry, but the princess is in another castle..."

Unique (Fungal)

kopout
2008-10-29, 05:39 PM
Unique (Fungal)
A mold. A relay big mold.

thegurullamen
2008-10-29, 05:44 PM
Anyone else just want to random the hell out of those tables and see what comes of it? Elemental Fire Bard CR 17 LN Order
Fey Forest Lord Wilder CR 15 N Malevolence
Aberration Extraplanar Psion CR 4 N Order
Fey Pixie Swordsage CR 6 LN Malevolence
Dragon Blue Favored Soul CR 18 N Insanity

I like the first and the last ones the most.

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 05:46 PM
That last one... does it have wings? :smalltongue:

I didn't get that third one, unless "Extraplanar" is an actual Aberration species?

thegurullamen
2008-10-29, 05:56 PM
That last one... does it have wings? :smalltongue:

I didn't get that third one, unless "Extraplanar" is an actual Aberration species?

It apparently has four wings. Two scaly, two bat-like, all awesome. And I didn't have the luxury of having a subtype table to work with, so I improv'd with the BS regular-type-as-a-subtype. I'm thinking it adds up to a Surrusus or whatever that creepy air-loving walker from the MMIII is called.

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 06:00 PM
Susurrus indeed.

You know, that would be a really tough monster to villainize. The only things it hates are air pollution and the undead.

Lyndworm
2008-10-29, 06:05 PM
In an evil campaign full of blighters and intelligent undead, I could see it being quite the menace.

Zack

aaron_the_cow
2008-10-29, 07:21 PM
UNIQUE FUNGI all the way!!!

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 08:30 PM
Good thing I didn't call this one early.

Knaight
2008-10-29, 08:36 PM
Unique Floral, preferably with thorns. The thorns are the important part.

DracoDei
2008-10-29, 09:03 PM
Unique(Floral)

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 10:31 PM
Voting closes in 29 minutes.

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 10:59 PM
Alright, it's a Unique (Floral) plant baddie! Now, what will this perfidious perennial's Challenge Rating be?

Lyndworm
2008-10-29, 11:01 PM
I vote CR14.

Zack

streakster
2008-10-29, 11:07 PM
CR 20. I came here to kill dudes and plant azaleas. And I'm all out of dudes.

Owrtho
2008-10-29, 11:18 PM
Could I vote for a scaled CR to so it can be used as a reoccuring enemie? For example with stats (or atleast updates to stats) for every 5 CR starting at CR 5? If not I'll figure out a specific CR.

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 11:25 PM
That would be a no. Sorry, Owthro. However, as it's a unique classless monster, it can be scaled via HD. Also, what I have in mind right now is scalable in an even easier fashion...

arguskos
2008-10-29, 11:27 PM
CR 14

Yay, good CR'd monsters.

-argus

streakster
2008-10-29, 11:28 PM
Aaaaw...No class picks? I wanted a Rose Ninja! Poison Thorn Darts, Vine Garrotes, disappearing in a cloud of rose petals...

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 11:30 PM
Sorry streakster. Remember, though, it would have been my ninja. Not the CA one.

streakster
2008-10-29, 11:33 PM
Sorry streakster. Remember, though, it would have been my ninja. Not the CA one.

And just why do you think I liked the idea so much?:smallsmile:

afroakuma
2008-10-29, 11:37 PM
:smallbiggrin: Thank you!

I do have an idea of the direction this creature is headed, though. I suspect you will not be disappointed.

That said, I won't be trying to force things one way or the other. My intervention on classes was to prevent something ridiculous, like a floral Bard.

Owrtho
2008-10-29, 11:59 PM
Aw. Oh well though. Also, no class‽ I'd have voted scout probly... Anyways, for a single CR, I'll go with 13. Lets make it unlucky (for the PCs).

Owrtho

Reverent-One
2008-10-30, 12:19 AM
CR 10 Nice middle of the road level.

Bakkan
2008-10-30, 01:47 AM
Gonna Vote for CR 8, just to be different.

cnsvnc
2008-10-30, 03:24 AM
9 is the number of the different. Or maybe not.

MattR
2008-10-30, 06:02 AM
CR 10

They have a tendancy to spring suprises.

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 06:50 AM
No clear leaders yet.

Zeta Kai
2008-10-30, 06:52 AM
My intervention on classes was to prevent something ridiculous, like a floral Bard.

And just what is wrong with a floral bard? :smallwink:

Seriously though, militant floral druids are better anyway. If you don't make one, I'll do it myself.

Back on topic, I'm casting my vote for CR14. That's big enough to scare the pants off of low-level parties, provide a tough challenge for mid-level parties, & still have a chance (with some help) against high-level parties.

Luean
2008-10-30, 06:53 AM
Villains need more luck!
CR 13

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 06:55 AM
OK fine, maybe a floral bard, but a floral Artificier?

Saint Nil
2008-10-30, 07:06 AM
CR 18 I want this thing to be a plant of legenmds, that even the druids stay away from/revere.

Xallace
2008-10-30, 07:48 AM
CR 13, because it will be so unfortunate for the heroes to stumble across this maniacal menace.

puppyavenger
2008-10-30, 08:34 AM
20

stupid character limit.

Bob
2008-10-30, 08:44 AM
cr 13
Class levels may not suit this creature unless it is particularly anthropomorphic, but its mechanics shape the way that it functions with and is viewed by the world. If you don't want to have it advance by class, i think we should at least vote on a class for it to be similar to.

also i think a plant artificer would be very art nouveau.

Ghill
2008-10-30, 08:49 AM
CR 13, because I want to be able to use it sooner, but still have it be above all those lesser villains.

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 09:16 AM
Interesting that people want a higher-end villain.

Saint Nil
2008-10-30, 09:21 AM
I change my vote to CR 20

Johel
2008-10-30, 11:22 AM
CR 10 is fine.

If you want to use it for higher level, it won't be difficult to boost it with more HD and abilities points.

thegurullamen
2008-10-30, 11:42 AM
CR 10 for that nice down-the-middle goodness

Fako
2008-10-30, 01:32 PM
20, as an end-game killer-flower-from-hades sounds like fun :smallbiggrin:

cnsvnc
2008-10-30, 01:37 PM
Though I have voted, a plant artificier is 27 different kinds of awesome.

Zeta Kai
2008-10-30, 02:28 PM
Though I have voted, a plant artificier is 27 different kinds of awesome.

That's funny, I only count 23 different varieties of awesome employed by a floral artificer. What are the last four? :smallbiggrin:

DracoDei
2008-10-30, 03:18 PM
Challenge Rating 13, simply because in this case the lower the more interesting I think, and that is the lowest I think has a chance at winning.

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 03:25 PM
Close race this time. Voting closes on the 0000 EST standard. If you need your local time zone, check the spoiler for the most common.

{table=head]Time Zone|UTC|Voting Closed At
JST|UTC+9|1400 2:00 PM local datestamp +1
AWST/PRC|UTC+8|1300 1:00 PM local datestamp +1
IST|UTC+5:30|1030 10:30 AM local datestamp +1
CET|UTC+1|0600 6:00 AM local datestamp +1
GMT|UTC+0|0500 5:00 AM local datestamp +1
EST|UTC-5|0000 12:00 AM local datestamp +1
CST|UTC-6|2300 11:00 PM
PST|UTC-8|2100 9:00 PM
[/table]

puppyavenger
2008-10-30, 03:30 PM
out of curiosity how is green a motivation?

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 03:34 PM
Blast it, does it say green instead of greed?

streakster
2008-10-30, 03:37 PM
Blast it, does it say green instead of greed?

Ah, is that it? I assumed environmental terrorism...

Dragonus45
2008-10-30, 03:38 PM
CR 10 I rolled a d20 and that's what i got.

Owrtho
2008-10-30, 03:57 PM
Maby green is a motivation because they want to be super green? like Ruby Rhod

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 04:13 PM
Green is no longer a motivation.

Shadow_Elf
2008-10-30, 04:38 PM
CR 13

Also, a Floral Artificer has the following kinds of awesome (ex)

1. It can craft magic plants
2. It can throw magic plants
3. It can UMD trees
4. It grows on you
5. It can shield its minions with magic
6. It can shield its minions with plants
7. It can shield its minions with magic plants
8. It can make its own treasure hoard
9. It can steal someone else's treasure hoard and make it better
10. It has class levels (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0011.html)
11. It can cast Arcane spells and Nature-themed spell-like ability-things
12. It can be magically poisonous
13. It can be naturally poisonous
14. It can paralyze you magically
15. It can paralyze you naturally
17. Its grapple check is crazy
18. Evard's Poison Ivy of Forced Intrusion
19. It can creep up on you
20. Its never Lawful Stupid
21. It eats people to avoid being a cannibal
22. It eats sunlight, enemies, and your soul
23. It is both a Plant and an Artificer.

You're right Zeta... I can only find 23. What are the other four?

KingGolem
2008-10-30, 04:39 PM
Sweet genius! I missed the entire species vote! :smalleek: Ah well, floral sounds pretty good. As for Challenge Rating, I vote for CR 10.

Magnor Criol
2008-10-30, 06:08 PM
Sweet genius! I missed the entire species vote!

If you missed the entire species vote, don't you mean "sweet genus"? :smalltongue: :smallbiggrin:

I vote for CR 14.

Knaight
2008-10-30, 06:10 PM
CR 4, its easier to scale up than down. Or you could make a class, that would be awesome.

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 06:15 PM
Zeta: I call dibs on Vote Up a Prestige Class.

Knaight: Sorry, not this round. But see immediately above.

aaron_the_cow
2008-10-30, 06:21 PM
CR: 10 Is my vote

Zeta Kai
2008-10-30, 06:26 PM
Zeta: I call dibs on Vote Up a Prestige Class.

I'd normally be greedy about my intellectual property, but I think I'll pass this time. Ol' ZK has his homebrewing hands full at the moment, so you have my blessing & my sincere condolences. As you know, voting can get a little cruel. I hope you know what you're getting into.

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 06:30 PM
People have already threatened me with floral ninjas and floral artificiers

I'll survive for now. And yes, Direct My Wrath will continue on schedule - five Lamenti have already been posted to the Pandemonium thread, and I'll be doing up some other features shortly.

Xallace
2008-10-30, 07:07 PM
Zeta: I call dibs on Vote Up a Prestige Class.

Darn! I was going to see if I could get away with that.
Ah well. Back to the idea box.

Copacetic
2008-10-30, 07:14 PM
CR 13


Lazer Bears! Hooray!

Shadow_Elf
2008-10-30, 07:17 PM
Zeta: I call dibs on Vote Up a Prestige Class.


I call Vote Up a Paragon Path! :smallbiggrin:

Thane of Fife
2008-10-30, 07:21 PM
I like the idea of Challenge Rating 6, personally.

I'm not quite sure why.

Zeta Kai
2008-10-30, 07:27 PM
Afro/SE: I call Vote Up a Campaign Setting. Seriously.

Lyndworm
2008-10-30, 07:32 PM
Afro/SE: I call Vote Up a Campaign Setting. Seriously.

Wow. Epic idea. That could be incredibly fun.

Zack

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 07:40 PM
Afro/SE: I call Vote Up a Campaign Setting. Seriously.

BLAST. I knew I shouldn't have overplayed my hand.

That said, take it away. Between Villains, Wrath, Prestige Class, and my own personal campaign setting, my homebrew space doesn't have room for that one. Much as I'd have liked to.

I should ask to co-pilot that or something, but I have no idea how that will work.

puppyavenger
2008-10-30, 07:48 PM
BLAST. I knew I shouldn't have overplayed my hand.

That said, take it away. Between Villains, Wrath, Prestige Class, and my own personal campaign setting, my homebrew space doesn't have room for that one. Much as I'd have liked to.

I should ask to co-pilot that or something, but I have no idea how that will work.

hey don't forget your apparent project of revamping all the planes!

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 07:50 PM
Referred to: Wrath is short for Direct My Wrath!!!, the vote thread for my planar projects. Speaking of which, Pandemonium is currently ongoing. Take a look!

Zeta Kai
2008-10-30, 08:16 PM
I should ask to co-pilot that or something, but I have no idea how that will work.

Neither do I, which what makes it so fun/scary. :smallbiggrin:

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 08:24 PM
Offer's on the table, my friend. Fun/scary I can run with.

Owrtho
2008-10-30, 08:28 PM
Seems simple enough. First youd have to do what I'd think are the three main points which whould be something along the lines of: Locations (island, contenental, single land mass, etc.), Setting (scifi, steampunk, fantasy, modern, etc.), and Environment (Sky, aquatic, tropical, dessert, city, etc. probly combinations to). Then from there you would have races and civilizations and monsters. Then classes. Then other specifics. I probly missed some stuff, but that would probably be the general gist of it.

Though the work of making the setting could be a bit difficult and challenging.

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 08:29 PM
It's the making sure that things don't become ridiculous (sahuagin populating an all-desert world) that's tough.

Owrtho
2008-10-30, 08:32 PM
Thats where you use the good ol' "I'm the one in charge and I say it's not a valid option" rule.

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 08:40 PM
Zeta and I both frown on having to pull that one out. I installed a perma-veto on Classes in this one, oddly enough, to encourage greater variety. Also so that if an unintelligent creature was voted for I wouldn't have to augment its Int score to allow a class. However, my perma-veto hits before the results start pouring in. And I still felt a bit self-peeved about calling it this time.

Owrtho
2008-10-30, 09:16 PM
That is the reason you determine environment first and then don't alow such blatantly impossible races as options.

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 09:16 PM
Where's the fun in that?

thegurullamen
2008-10-30, 09:51 PM
Where's the fun in that?

Then what are you complaining about? Hup hup, 'kuma!

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 09:54 PM
Who's complaining? I simply stated that Vote Up a Campaign Setting would be far more difficult than Owrtho posited. I think it would be fun.

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 11:08 PM
Alright, our antagonistic angiosperm will have a CR of 13. Now I'd like to ask for votes on Alignment.

arguskos
2008-10-30, 11:16 PM
I say True Neutral. These villains are the best, since it is very hard to argue with their motives.

-argus

streakster
2008-10-30, 11:17 PM
Alright, our antagonistic angiosperm will have a CR of 13. Now I'd like to ask for votes on Alignment.

Lawful Good.

Come on, a lawful good flower villain? You know you want to...

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 11:18 PM
That's the one I was afraid of. Votes accepted.

Zeta Kai
2008-10-30, 11:20 PM
Well, I'll ere on the side of what actually makes sense for an antagonist: Neutral Evil.

Bakkan
2008-10-30, 11:23 PM
Zeti Kai's got the right idea. Neutral Evil for me.

Lyndworm
2008-10-30, 11:30 PM
I vote Neutral Evil.

Zack

Zeta Kai
2008-10-30, 11:32 PM
Zeti Kai's got the right idea. Neutral Evil for me.

Zeti? :smallsigh:

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 11:37 PM
Perhaps you are now half yeti?

Owrtho
2008-10-30, 11:45 PM
Cuz its currently the minority, I'll vote lawful good for the lols. But if the balance shifts to its favor, I'm changing my vote to NE to stay (even easier if you could change it automaticaly, but if not I'll just post I'm changing my vote). As much as I think it would be fun to make a villan for when your the bad guys, plant monster wouldn't fit it. And I want this to turn out somewhat serious at least.

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-10-30, 11:50 PM
I will accept this vote and monitor it accordingly, but I ask that nobody vote this way in the future. Choosing a vote and then changing it is one thing; placing a shapeshifting vote that acts as a double agent is quite another.

Owrtho
2008-10-30, 11:51 PM
Yayz. I'm special.

Owrtho

arguskos
2008-10-30, 11:58 PM
Owrtho is just special like that. XD

-argus

Magnor Criol
2008-10-31, 12:16 AM
Eutral Nevil.

Juhn
2008-10-31, 12:23 AM
Chaotic Neutral. Plants tend toward neutrality, and the concept of an especially chaotic one could make for a decent villain (accidental or otherwise). I have this image in my head of a growing, shifting mass of vines/thorns.

Johel
2008-10-31, 05:51 AM
Neutral Evil

No morality but enough common sense to stay focus.

vegetalss4
2008-10-31, 05:58 AM
neutral evil

Thane of Fife
2008-10-31, 06:13 AM
Classic villain alignment: Chaotic Evil gets my vote.

Xallace
2008-10-31, 06:48 AM
Neutral Evil. Plants gotta be neutral something.

Rigon
2008-10-31, 07:02 AM
i say chaotic evil because he should want to return the world to the 3 prime components... soil, water and sun. everything else is just trash.

afroakuma
2008-10-31, 07:09 AM
eeeexcellent

Zeta Kai
2008-10-31, 07:46 AM
i say chaotic evil because he should want to return the world to the 3 prime components... soil, water and sun. everything else is just trash.

Ooh, I like that idea a lot... but I don't think the OP is taking suggestions for concept.

afroakuma
2008-10-31, 07:49 AM
Technically I am, but that's the next vote.

And again, the current design is... pretty villainous.

Debihuman
2008-10-31, 08:19 AM
Darn, I missed the previous vote. Oh well, that's what I get for not paying attention. I'm going out on a limb but why does alignment have to be so restrictive? I'm now voting for Neutral EVIL. This post has been amended.



Debby

Heliomance
2008-10-31, 08:38 AM
I vote Lawful Good, just to watch you try and make an LG villain.

afroakuma
2008-10-31, 08:55 AM
Well, Debi, I'd say you're less justified doing that in this contest than in Zeta Kai's, since I'm making a single, unique villain.

Luean
2008-10-31, 09:02 AM
My vote goes to True Neutral because...uhm...i like it.

BTW: I like voting threads. How about "Vote up an artifact"? Hmm...

cnsvnc
2008-10-31, 09:16 AM
I like CN. Sadly, I don't think this'll make it.

Reverent-One
2008-10-31, 09:57 AM
Neutral Evil

Thane of Fife
2008-10-31, 10:27 AM
BTW: I like voting threads. How about "Vote up an artifact"? Hmm...

How about a "Vote up a 'Vote up a...' Thread" thread?

afroakuma
2008-10-31, 10:36 AM
Augh... meta'ed

Debihuman
2008-10-31, 11:59 AM
Well, Debi, I'd say you're less justified doing that in this contest than in Zeta Kai's, since I'm making a single, unique villain.

Ahh. In that case, I'd go with Neutral Evil.. A single villain needs a single alignment. I'll amend my previous vote.

Debby

thegurullamen
2008-10-31, 12:50 PM
Neural Eval. Pre-Dark Ages psychology!

MattR
2008-10-31, 01:21 PM
Neutral Evil

puppyavenger
2008-10-31, 01:21 PM
Neutral Evil

afroakuma
2008-10-31, 01:41 PM
Alright, we're on a fair pace here.

DracoDei
2008-10-31, 01:59 PM
True Neutral

obvious pun
2008-10-31, 04:07 PM
Lawful Good

Calinero
2008-10-31, 04:43 PM
Chaotic Neutral

afroakuma
2008-10-31, 05:06 PM
I'm really anticipating the Motivation vote. Of all of them, that one will influence the concept most.

aaron_the_cow
2008-10-31, 05:43 PM
Lawful Good

afroakuma
2008-10-31, 08:47 PM
2 hours 15 minutes until turnover.

kopout
2008-10-31, 09:05 PM
lawful goodwanted chaotic good but that has a snow ball's chance

KKL
2008-10-31, 09:26 PM
Needs more Lawful Good villians.

Shadow_Elf
2008-10-31, 10:31 PM
Make Green a motivation again! It is actually appropriate here...
Except you could call it Eco Terrorism or somesuch
Also, I'll cast my vote for Chaotic Neutral

afroakuma
2008-10-31, 10:40 PM
I almost would, but there are others that basically encompass that premise.

afroakuma
2008-10-31, 11:05 PM
Alright, our odious orchid will be Neutral Evil!

Now, to vote for this verdant villain's Primary Motivation

arguskos
2008-10-31, 11:07 PM
I have to... I'm sorry guys... Punch-clock Villainy!

-argus

Shadow_Elf
2008-10-31, 11:19 PM
I vote for Love.

And if we get to specify Love of What?, I vote for Love of Hamburgers

streakster
2008-10-31, 11:21 PM
Love

Hello, Poison Ivy....

afroakuma
2008-10-31, 11:22 PM
I'ma veto Bic Mac love. Vote tallied, though.

puppyavenger
2008-10-31, 11:23 PM
how about love of a flower that was picked and given to the queen of the PC's nation?

anyway, Love

Zeta Kai
2008-10-31, 11:32 PM
My vote goes to Hunger. It must slake its unquenchable thirst, & it cares not for who or what is destroyed in the process.

Yes, I just described a floral vampire. I don't care; I say it rocks.

WinterSolstice
2008-10-31, 11:32 PM
Order:smallamused:

Shadow_Elf
2008-10-31, 11:34 PM
I'ma veto Bic Mac love. Vote tallied, though.

You da boss.

arguskos
2008-10-31, 11:43 PM
You guys suck. Gogo Punch-Clock!! :smallwink:

-argus

thegurullamen
2008-10-31, 11:45 PM
Oh, come on. This is a plant, guys. It's gotta be all in the name of good. Plants are the guardians of the Greater Good.

afroakuma
2008-10-31, 11:45 PM
While this battle takes place, I'm going to start planning the Prestige Class vote. Anybody with suggestions or input, please PM me.

Owrtho
2008-10-31, 11:50 PM
Well, my first choice would be for kicks and giggles (or whatever best aproximates that). But if such an option is not available, I'll go with Curiosity.

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-10-31, 11:53 PM
Apathetic malice encompasses boredom. Would you like to place that as your vote or Curiosity?

Owrtho
2008-10-31, 11:57 PM
Well, I'd suggest you rename apathetic malice as entertainment. As it is it sounds more like they just don't care about anything so decided to hurt stuff (for one thing the malice part means an intent to cause harm). As it is I'll cast my vote into that lot.

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-11-01, 12:05 AM
Apathy is synonymous with boredom. "Apathetic malice" refers to deliberately finding fault with something antd acting on it motivated entirely by not having anything better to do.

Knaight
2008-11-01, 12:08 AM
Curiosity, I have had a lot of fun with that one in the past, and know how well it can work. Although if the option for just following orders comes up, switch me to that.

afroakuma
2008-11-01, 12:12 AM
Knaight: That's Punch-Clock Villainy to a tee. Shall I take that?

Juhn
2008-11-01, 12:17 AM
Aw hell, why not. Let's go with Love.

puppyavenger
2008-11-01, 12:19 AM
Aw hell, why not. Let's go with Love.

to see just how guilty you can make the PC's feel for using shears.

Owrtho
2008-11-01, 12:36 AM
Apathy and boredom are not the same. They are simmilar, and can overlap, but when it comes down to it are completely different. Appath is a complete lack of emotion over something. Boredom however is closer to a lack of contenment. One can be apathetic and not be bored. Also, that is somewhat beside the point as being motivated by entertainment is different than being motivated by boredom. In the case of boredom, you want to stop being bored and do stuff so you aren't (often because you have nothing better to do). When motivated by entertainment however, one wouldn't care what otheer things they have to do, they just wanna have a good time and do stuff to do so. And looking at what I've writen I notice I seem to be splitting hairs, but I find the differances to be quite drastic (even if no one else does).

Owrtho

Luean
2008-11-01, 02:27 AM
Curiosity
Just because its a plant. And it has never seen any human(oid) creatures until they came and build a town! And now our plant friend wants to know who the hell they are, what they taste like and how they make that delicious apple pie!
Or something like that...

Bakkan
2008-11-01, 03:48 AM
I'm gonna cast my vote for Survival.

UnChosenOne
2008-11-01, 04:12 AM
Think that SurvivalŽis best option.

Heliomance
2008-11-01, 04:25 AM
I'mma go for Gits and Shiggles. If that's not allowed, it'll have to be Love.

Lyndworm
2008-11-01, 04:57 AM
Go-go gadget Hunger!

Zack

MattR
2008-11-01, 05:29 AM
Love since i'm not sure lust is an option.

afroakuma
2008-11-01, 07:07 AM
Could be Envy or somesuch

Luean
2008-11-01, 07:15 AM
Love since i'm not sure lust is an option.

Lust? Its a plant :smallconfused:

Fako
2008-11-01, 07:16 AM
Apathetic malice for me, as (in my opinion) it's the most fun to run.

MattR
2008-11-01, 07:37 AM
Lust? Its a plant :smallconfused:

Lust - obsessive or excessive thoughts or desires of a sexual nature.

I was thinking of it in terms of the villian wanting to enfolding everything it comes accross in its irresistable embrace and indescriminantly spread its pollen.

Could lead to a whole plant-hybrid minion thing too...

cnsvnc
2008-11-01, 08:23 AM
Let's see if curiosity kills the crysanthemum.

KKL
2008-11-01, 08:23 AM
A plant BBEG that operates on love...

I say FUND IT.

Casting a vote for love.

afroakuma
2008-11-01, 08:28 AM
Strays a bit from my previous concept, but I have a new plan to make it work if things come to that.

vegetalss4
2008-11-01, 09:59 AM
It just needs someone to LOVE

afroakuma
2008-11-01, 11:54 AM
Well, this will give me something to do tomorrow.

Reverent-One
2008-11-01, 12:43 PM
I'll throw in a vote for Apathetic malice.

Eleven
2008-11-01, 12:43 PM
Love

Makin' the world go around

kopout
2008-11-01, 12:55 PM
Punch-Clock Villainy Why? Because ?"My lawn has been hired to kill me! " is a funny line. Plus you can pay it in cow patties.

afroakuma
2008-11-01, 12:57 PM
"My lawn has been hired to kill me! "

I nearly broke the system and went for it when I read this.

I am going to have to go back and do this at some point.

Zeta Kai
2008-11-01, 01:01 PM
"My lawn has been hired to kill me!"

This makes me laugh. I'm almost tempted to change my vote because of this.

afroakuma
2008-11-01, 01:02 PM
I nearly changed everyone's vote when I read it.

DracoDei
2008-11-01, 02:14 PM
Punch-Clock Villainy seems the most amusing motivation for a plant.

aaron_the_cow
2008-11-01, 02:35 PM
LOVE
FTW

LucyHarris
2008-11-01, 03:15 PM
I'll go and be original and say Rage. It's utterly and irrationally angry and ready to take it out on anybody that has the misfortune to stumble across it.

Vadin
2008-11-01, 03:17 PM
Punch-clock Villainy is just so great.

"No, honey, I've got work tomorrow, remember? I'll be busy destroying the world all day. We'll have to push the barbecue to next weekend."

Owrtho
2008-11-01, 03:20 PM
Well, it does seem ammusing, so I'll change my vote from apathetic malice to pcv

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-11-01, 03:30 PM
Maybe not a barbecue - I assume most plant villains are herbivores, or at least raw foodies - but probably a picnic or two.

Vadin
2008-11-01, 03:38 PM
Maybe not a barbecue - I assume most plant villains are herbivores, or at least raw foodies - but probably a picnic or two.

"Ah, darn, suns up. Looks like I better go slay the living..."

"Whew! Finally nighttime. Oh, look! Adventurers! Hey, guys! Who wants a cold one?"

Reverent-One
2008-11-01, 04:49 PM
Switching my vote from Apathetic malice to Punch clock villiany

afroakuma
2008-11-01, 04:53 PM
Vote changes acknowledged.

streakster
2008-11-01, 05:36 PM
Changing my vote from Love to Punch-Clock Villainy. Because that line was awesome.