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Shadow_Elf
2008-10-31, 11:32 PM
For reference, here are previous and current contests listed in chronological order. Also, Zeta's idea still rocks. Which is why I'm stealing it. Again.

Vote Up a Monster 3.Xe #1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4935219#post4935219)
Result: The Gatekeeper (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5024872#post5024872)

Vote Up a Monster 3.Xe #2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5061613#post5061613)
Result: The Deus Ex Machina (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5109938#post5109938)

Vote Up a Monster 4e Edition #1 (http://http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5112259#post5112259)
Result: The Songbird Spirit (http://http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5183668#post5183668)

Vote Up a Monster 3.Xe #3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5121003#post5121003)
Result: The Ectoplasmic Swarm (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5189278#post5189278)

Vote Up a Villain #1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95094)
Result: Pending

Vote Up a Monster 3.Xe #4 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95195)
Result: Pending

Okay, hopefully you all know the drill. If not, see the Vote Up a Monster 4e Edition #1 Thread, as I do not feel like copy/pasting all of that.

Vote #1: Creature Origin & Type
Aberrant Beast

Origin
Aberrant: 6
Elemental:
Fey: 3
Immortal: 4
Natural:
Shadow: 2

Type
Animate:
Beast: 9
Humanoid: 5
Magical Beast: 1

Vote #2: Creature Subtype(s)
Blind and Swarm

Air
Angel
Aquatic: 1
Blind: 5
Construct:
Demon:
Devil:
Dragon: 3
Earth
Fire
Giant
Homunculus: 4
Living Construct: 3
Ooze:
Plant: 3
Reptile:
Spider:
Swarm: 9
Undead
Water:

Vote #3 Creature Size
Gargantuan

Tiny: 1
Small: 1
Medium: 2
Large: 4
Huge:1
Gargantuan: 7

Vote #4 Creature Tier
Paragon

Heroic: 6
Paragon: 12
Epic: 1
Epic+:

Vote #5 Creature Level
Level 14

1:
2: 5
3: 1
4: 7
5:
6: 6
7: 1
8: 1
9:
10:

Vote #6 Role and Power Level
Elite Brute

Role
Artillery: 1
Brute: 10
Controller:
Lurker: 2
Skirmisher: 1
Soldier: 2

Power Level
Normal: 1
Elite: 9
Solo: 6

Vote #7 Attack Keywords
Healing and Disease

This Color = Guaranteed to be used
This Color = Potentially used
Acid: 3
Charm: 1
Cold: 1
Conjuration: 1
Disease: 9
Fear: 1
Fire:
Force:
Gaze: 1
Healing: 6
Illusion:
Necrotic: 2
Poison
Polymorph:
Psychic: 3
Radiant: 3
Sleep:
Teleportation:
Weapon
Zone:

Vote #8 Alignment
Chaotic Neutral

Chaotic Good (CG):
Neutral Good (NG):
Lawful Good (LG): 5
Lawful Neutral (LN): 2
True Neutral (TN): 1
Unaligned (UA): 1
Chaotic Neutral (CN): 11
Chaotic Evil (CE):
Neutral Evil (NE): 3
Lawful Evil (LE):


You may notice that Shapechanger and Mount are no longer votable options. This is because I don't want another one. Please refrain from voting for these.

Also, Minion has been removed. If you really want a minion, just apply the minion math to the result of this contest. I don't want to spend a week on a VUAM only to have the resulting monster have a sum total of 1 hp.
EDIT: New vote added! By popular demand, the fourth Vote will be for Tier, followed by a fifth for level.

streakster
2008-10-31, 11:35 PM
Fey Humanoid, my good sir.

Zeta Kai
2008-10-31, 11:37 PM
Great subtitle, SE. I wish I'd thought of it.

As for the critter, my vote goes to Immortal Beast. I'm not sure why, but that combo just appeals to me.

puppyavenger
2008-10-31, 11:38 PM
Abberent Beast

Shadow_Elf
2008-10-31, 11:41 PM
votes tallied.

EDIT:

Great subtitle, SE. I wish I'd thought of it.


Thanks. I think I mentioned it in Vote Up a monster #2.

KKL
2008-10-31, 11:56 PM
Immortal Beast's the most interesting, so why not.

RTGoodman
2008-11-01, 01:39 AM
I'm going with Aberrant Humanoid.

Lyndworm
2008-11-01, 05:00 AM
I'ma go with Immortal Beast.

Zack

Tuataralad
2008-11-01, 06:20 AM
Yay, another 4e vote up a monster. I'll go with shadow beast.

cnsvnc
2008-11-01, 08:27 AM
I'm going with the more savage option of aberrant beast.

Vadin
2008-11-01, 09:00 AM
Because I've never seen one, Aberrant Humanoid.

Mando Knight
2008-11-01, 10:09 AM
Immortal Magical Beast

Alteran
2008-11-01, 10:28 AM
Aberrant Beast.

Baxter190
2008-11-01, 11:31 AM
Fey and humanoid

Blue Ghost
2008-11-01, 12:01 PM
Fey Humanoid gets my vote.

Reverent-One
2008-11-01, 12:39 PM
Shadow beast

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-01, 01:59 PM
Votes Tallied. This vote will end sometime tonight.

Dracomortis
2008-11-01, 04:57 PM
Votes Tallied. This vote will end sometime tonight.
In that spirit: aberrant beast.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-01, 08:04 PM
The votes have been tallied and the winner is...

Aberrant Beast! (by quite a bit) Okay, so now I'd like you all to go ahead and vote on this creature's Subtype. You can vote for two subtypes max. Remember, please Bold your votes.
Reminder: Shapechanger and Mount are not options this time around.

Zeta Kai
2008-11-01, 08:23 PM
Well, I'm tempted to vote for Swarm, just out of vile spite. But I'll be benevolent & reasonable... I vote for Living Construct! :smalltongue:

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-01, 08:33 PM
Well, I'm tempted to vote for Swarm, just out of vile spite. But I'll be benevolent & reasonable... I vote for Living Construct! :smalltongue:

You can have your Living Construct and eat your Swarm too! You get two subtype votes around these parts. 'Cause I don't get as many voters as you do.... :smallfrown:

Zeta Kai
2008-11-01, 09:10 PM
You can have your Living Construct and eat your Swarm too! You get two subtype votes around these parts. 'Cause I don't get as many voters as you do.... :smallfrown:

It's not you, SE, I'm sure. It's probably just your edition. Zing! :smallbiggrin:

Vadin
2008-11-01, 09:14 PM
Swarm and Homonculous.

Because those evil wizards at the end of low-level dungeons never have good enough side-kicks.

Also, perhaps you should add in a Tier vote before a level vote? Just a thought, so voters could judge about where they might want the monster to end up before deciding on an exact level.

Dracomortis
2008-11-01, 09:19 PM
Swarm and Homonculous.

Because those evil wizards at the end of low-level dungeons never have good enough side-kicks.
Very rarely do I see a post and agree with everything in it. I therefore double the vote for Swarm and Homunculus subtypes.

Zeta Kai
2008-11-01, 09:53 PM
Also, perhaps you should add in a Tier vote before a level vote? Just a thought, so voters could judge about where they might want the monster to end up before deciding on an exact level.

I second the proposal for a separate Tier vote. I almost wish 3E had level tiers.

Mewtarthio
2008-11-01, 10:08 PM
I'll put in another vote for Swarm and... how about Plant?

And I third the motion for a tier vote. Just to narrow things down a bit, y'know?

Reverent-One
2008-11-01, 10:16 PM
Homunculus and Living Construct.

rayne_dragon
2008-11-01, 10:29 PM
I'll add in antoher vote for swarm and homunculus

puppyavenger
2008-11-01, 11:03 PM
swarm, living construct

RTGoodman
2008-11-01, 11:07 PM
I'm not feeling that many of the options, so I'm just going to vote for one subtype. (You said up to two, so I assume that's okay.) I'm casting my ballot for Blind.

Alteran
2008-11-02, 12:58 AM
Swarm, blind.

Tuataralad
2008-11-02, 07:36 AM
Dragon and Plant. Damn straight.

Inyssius Tor
2008-11-02, 01:28 PM
Damn, everyone else is going for Swarm. I'll still throw in my vote for Dragon and Plant, though.

Juhn
2008-11-02, 02:07 PM
It's an Abberant beast. Come on, it's gotta be Blind. When I come up with a decent second one I'll add it.

Mando Knight
2008-11-02, 02:09 PM
Dragon swarm!

Mewtarthio
2008-11-02, 02:19 PM
...You know, those other guys make a good point. Change my vote to Blind Swarm.

Lyndworm
2008-11-02, 03:21 PM
I don't normally like swarms all that much, but I'm goint to vote for Plant and Swarm subtypes. I can't help but the image of 1,000 razor-edged samara fruits whirling about the battlefield.

Zack

cnsvnc
2008-11-02, 04:43 PM
An aberrant beast that lurks under the calm waters seems like a good image. Therefore, aquatic. Blind also fits well.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-02, 05:09 PM
Votes Tallied. The contest for 2nd place is heating up, so I'll leave this awhile longer.

Also, by popular demand, a new vote has been added: The Tier Vote!

So, this introduces a new setup.
First, the Tier Vote is run. This will give us either a 1-10, 11-20, 21-30 or 30+ range. Then, the level vote is run. This will give us the second digit of the creature's level.
So, its sort of like rolling a d4 and a d10, and seeing what comes out.

Mando Knight
2008-11-02, 06:52 PM
I'll go with Paragon Tier--levels 11-20.

I also vote for its level ending in 4.

puppyavenger
2008-11-02, 06:58 PM
well, high-end swarms of all-devouring abominations are always funEpic

Sacrath
2008-11-02, 07:56 PM
Heroic Teir - Newbies need cool monsters too.

Vadin
2008-11-02, 07:58 PM
Paragon Tier

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-02, 08:02 PM
@ all ^: I'm sorry, I was just announcing that a new vote had been added to the contest. The voting for Type was still open, and voting for Size will be next. However, I've decided that the time to close the Type vote (as you all seem so impatient to get to this thing's power level).

So the winner is...

Blind Swarm!

So this thing is going to be an Aberrant Beast with the Blind and Swarm subtypes. Interesting...

So next, I would like you all to vote on this creature's Size (not its tier). Fear not, those who have already voted for Tier. Your votes will be counted tomorrow night once the Size vote is done.

Sacrath
2008-11-02, 08:08 PM
Medium - Easy to include in encounters, and it can go where ever the PCs can.

Vadin
2008-11-02, 08:14 PM
Ok then. I'll also vote for Medium. An excellent size for swarms and ease of use.

cnsvnc
2008-11-02, 08:37 PM
Another swarm. Oh well. Making it small, just to be contrary.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-02, 08:39 PM
I'm sure you all realize this, but we're voting for total swarm size, not size of individual swarm units. Thank you.

Also, votes tallied.

RTGoodman
2008-11-02, 08:59 PM
I think Large is a perfectly good size for the swarm itself.

Mewtarthio
2008-11-02, 09:07 PM
Whatever it is, it's going to be a whole lot of eyeless, alien critters, no? Seems to me that we'd want more of those things, so I'm voting Large.

Mando Knight
2008-11-02, 09:09 PM
Let's make this one Gargantuan. There aren't enough of those yet. Let's make it truly an abomination--the most massive swarm ever.

Zocelot
2008-11-02, 09:11 PM
Tiny, because PCs either think size is directly or inversely porportional to power level. In this case it may very well be neither, so that'll throw a wrench in their gears.

Lyndworm
2008-11-02, 09:46 PM
I feel compelled to vote for Gargantuan.

Zack

Vadin
2008-11-02, 09:57 PM
I'm sure you all realize this, but we're voting for total swarm size, not size of individual swarm units. Thank you.

Also, votes tallied.

Quite aware, though that's a good thing to be sure of.

puppyavenger
2008-11-02, 10:03 PM
Gargantu-win!

WinterSolstice
2008-11-02, 10:09 PM
Gargantuan

MattR
2008-11-02, 10:37 PM
Gargantuan

Zeta Kai
2008-11-03, 12:35 AM
I vote Large. Not big, not too small. The Goldilocks of monsters.

Alteran
2008-11-03, 12:37 AM
They can't all be gargantuan, so I'm going to say large.

Reverent-One
2008-11-03, 12:55 AM
Gargantuan.

Inyssius Tor
2008-11-03, 01:20 PM
Huge, just to be pointlessly contrary.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-03, 05:31 PM
Votes Tallied. Voting will be open a little longer.

rayne_dragon
2008-11-03, 07:45 PM
Because the idea of this is stupidly awesome, I will add my vote to Gargantuan

Scariest swarm ever.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-03, 10:06 PM
The votes are in, and the winner (to my dismay...) is...

Gargantuan!

So this is going to be a Gargantuan Swarm of Smaller Blind Aberrant Beasts!

So next, I'd like y'all to vote for this critter's Tier. If you already voted (during the earlier mishap) I would like to ask that, given the Size result, you repost your votes. You don't have to change your mind, I just want to give the option to do so.

Remember, 1 vote per customer, and yer options are:
Heroic (1-10) Tier
Paragon (11-20) Tier
Epic (21-30) Tier
Epic+ (31-35*) Tier

*Please note that Epic+ is not particularly useful, and as such I will excert veto on the Level vote if Epic+ wins so that nothing above a level 35 can be created (as anything higher is simply unusable).

Mewtarthio
2008-11-03, 10:10 PM
I'm voting Heroic. Simply because I'd like to see a lot of these things running around.

Zocelot
2008-11-03, 10:13 PM
If it's going to be gargantuan and aberrant, the only way to realistically fit it into a game is to make it epic

cnsvnc
2008-11-03, 10:14 PM
Heroic as well.


*Please note that Epic+ is not particularly useful, and as such I will excert veto on the Level vote if Epic+ wins so that nothing above a level 35 can be created (as anything higher is simply unusable).

Then why include it at all?

Mewtarthio
2008-11-03, 10:19 PM
If it's going to be gargantuan and aberrant, the only way to realistically fit it into a game is to make it epic

Not necessarily. It's a swarm, so it's not like there's a single, enormous monster destroying the city. These things could be minor pests in some areas that occasionally band together into something truly nasty.

Like the old "rats in the cellar" quest: "Excuse me, young man, but my cellar has been overrun by an army of hideous, eyeless, alien monstrosities that man was not meant to know; could you be a dear and clean it out for me?"

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-03, 10:28 PM
Heroic as well.
Then why include it at all?

Because sometimes you just want an Orcus.
But mostly you don't :smalltongue:


"Excuse me, young man, but my cellar has been overrun by an army of hideous, eyeless, alien monstrosities that man was not meant to know; could you be a dear and clean it out for me?"

If there was room in my sig, I would quote this :smallwink:.

Leliel
2008-11-03, 10:35 PM
Beacuse it a Gargantuan beast doesn't sound right for Heroic Tier: Epic.

rayne_dragon
2008-11-03, 10:46 PM
Paragon

Because I'd like to see more of them than if it was epic, but I also can't picture Gargantuan Swarms of Aberrations running all over the place like goblins. Also, while I haven't played 4e, I hear swarms are brutal at lower levels.

Also: "Excuse me, young man, but my cellar has been overrun by an army of hideous, eyeless, alien monstrosities that man was not meant to know; could you be a dear and clean it out for me?" is the best quote ever.

CarpeGuitarrem
2008-11-03, 10:56 PM
Paragon, for rayne_dragon's reasons...

Vadin
2008-11-03, 11:15 PM
Pa-pa-pa-PARAGON!

Lyndworm
2008-11-03, 11:18 PM
I vote Heroic.

Mando Knight
2008-11-03, 11:29 PM
My vote will stay at Paragon Tier...

Zeta Kai
2008-11-04, 12:09 AM
I shall vote for the Paragon Tier; it's a nice middle-of-the-road area.

Alteran
2008-11-04, 12:38 AM
Paragon. You've already made a gargantuan epic creature, let's give you a bit of variety.

Grynning
2008-11-04, 12:45 AM
This sounds like fun. Jumping on the Paragon bandwagon.

RTGoodman
2008-11-04, 12:53 AM
Paragon - as Zeta Kai said, it's a nice middle of the road.

Reverent-One
2008-11-04, 01:28 AM
Paragon tier.

AgentPaper
2008-11-04, 02:08 AM
Heroic so it has a better chance to see some use.

Sacrath
2008-11-04, 09:40 AM
I'll have to change to Paragon and here's hoping that solo gets voted in.

vegetalss4
2008-11-04, 11:27 AM
paragon

is aperently to short a message

Tuataralad
2008-11-04, 04:39 PM
Heroic. We already have ridiculous amounts of epics running around, it's time for a change.

Dracomortis
2008-11-04, 09:15 PM
Heroic. Because it's...well, heroic.

Zocelot
2008-11-04, 10:33 PM
I'm going to change my vote to Paragon, changing my previous vote from epic.


Heroic. We already have ridiculous amounts of epics running around, it's time for a change

I'm going to argue, even if it kills me. Have you opened your MM? Heroic and Paragon tier Monsters take up over 3 pages of the index, while Epic creatures barely take up half.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-04, 10:49 PM
The votes have been tallied, and the winner (by a rather unusual margin...) is...

Paragon!

So, this is going to be a Gargantuan Aberrant Beast with the Swarm and Blind subtypes. It will be encountered by PCs of the Paragon Tier.

Okay, so next, I'd like you all to vote on this creature's Level.

You vote for a # from 1 to 10, and the winning number is added to 10 (Paragon) for the final Level result.

Remember, 1 vote/customer, please Bold your votes. If you change your vote, please put your previous vote and your new vote together, bolding the new one. This makes my life easier.

Vadin
2008-11-04, 11:01 PM
2!

Ten letters.

RTGoodman
2008-11-04, 11:14 PM
I'm going with 6 (so, basically level 16).

Mando Knight
2008-11-04, 11:21 PM
4, for a final level of 14.

Alteran
2008-11-04, 11:35 PM
I think 8 is good.

puppyavenger
2008-11-04, 11:36 PM
6 for a level 16

Lyndworm
2008-11-04, 11:39 PM
I vote 2 for a total of twelve.

Zack

Mewtarthio
2008-11-04, 11:40 PM
I'm voting for Level 14. It's a little arbitrary, but I felt that fifteen would be too high and thirteen... come on, thirteen?! Don't be ridiculous! :smallmad:

Zeta Kai
2008-11-04, 11:57 PM
I will vote for 4 (14 total).

Dracomortis
2008-11-05, 12:10 AM
Let's go with 2 (level 12).

paddyfool
2008-11-05, 11:36 AM
2 (level 12)

Rigon
2008-11-05, 11:43 AM
4 for a total of 14.

Inyssius Tor
2008-11-05, 11:51 AM
2 for a total of 12.

Reverent-One
2008-11-05, 11:57 AM
I will vote for 4 for 14.

CarpeGuitarrem
2008-11-05, 02:29 PM
I vote for 4, let's see how it works on the lower end.

Zocelot
2008-11-05, 07:13 PM
I'm going with 6

Leliel
2008-11-05, 07:27 PM
6 for me. If this guy isn't epic, he should be somwhat close

Grynning
2008-11-05, 08:16 PM
I vote 3 (total 13).

I've always liked the number 13, because most people consider it unlucky. A "13th level swarm of blind abberations" sounds nice and ominous.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-05, 09:13 PM
This vote is really close. So I'm going to leave it a while longer
will close later tonight.

rayne_dragon
2008-11-06, 12:34 AM
To go against a trend, I vote seven (7) for level 17.

vegetalss4
2008-11-06, 04:47 AM
i vote for 14

Athaniar
2008-11-06, 05:49 AM
6, for a total of 16, is perfect for me. Not too low, not too high. Come on, show some support for the 4x4!

Also, one question: is there a specific reason you have included all the
3E alignments in the alignment vote?

Mewtarthio
2008-11-06, 09:28 AM
Also, one question: is there a specific reason you have included all the
3E alignments in the alignment vote?

As he said in the first thread, he likes the 3e alignment system better. Plus, it lets the voters fine-tune the creature a bit more.

Meek
2008-11-06, 10:28 AM
16, high enough to be scary and tough in the paragon tier, but not approaching epic.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-06, 05:41 PM
Okay, so the votes have been tallied, and the winner (this one was a real nailbiter) is...

Level 14!
(I'm sorry about my absent mindedness, I left this vote open much longer than intended)
So this creature is going to be a Gargantuan Swarm of Blind Aberrant Beast. The swarm will be appropriate for characters of the Paragon, most specifically level 14.

So next, I'd like you all to vote on this thing's Role and Power Level.

To review (for those who are unfamiliar with the role system)

Artillery: "Glass Canon"
Soldier: "Meat Shield"
Brute: "Rager"
Lurker: "Assassin"
Skirmisher: "Hit and Run"
Controller: "Flamethrower"

Normal: Average Monster
Elite: A monster who leads a group, or perhaps a creature than hunts in pairs. (Worth Two Average Monsters)
Solo: One monster. Against your entire party. Good Luck (worth 5 Average Monsters)

Mando Knight
2008-11-06, 06:12 PM
SOLO SOLDIER!

cnsvnc
2008-11-06, 06:14 PM
Solo soldier.

Got ninjaed.

Mewtarthio
2008-11-06, 06:21 PM
As scary as I want this thing to be, I don't feel that Solo is really appropriate for a swarm. Additionally, my (admittedly limited) understanding of 4e is that the Soldier role is a sort of bodyguard: Shadow Elf described it as a "meat shield," which implies that there has to be someone it's protecting.

I'm voting Elite Brute myself.

Inyssius Tor
2008-11-06, 06:32 PM
As scary as I want this thing to be, I don't feel that Solo is really appropriate for a swarm. Additionally, my (admittedly limited) understanding of 4e is that the Soldier role is a sort of bodyguard: Shadow Elf described it as a "meat shield," which implies that there has to be someone it's protecting.

I'm voting Elite Brute myself.

We concur.

Vadin
2008-11-06, 06:38 PM
Brute, Normal. Shaken, not swarmed.

Lyndworm
2008-11-06, 07:19 PM
Elite Brute sounds perfect.

Zack

Random NPC
2008-11-06, 07:26 PM
Solo Brute


*drools thinking of a swarm of aberrant beasts*

EDIT: I just pictured it. A group of adventurers enter a cave and find themselves fighting a horrible thing. A swarm of aberrant things in the darkness, killing everything they can find.... and they can quickly engulf the whole party!

*keeps drooling*

puppyavenger
2008-11-06, 08:01 PM
elite brute

Tuataralad
2008-11-06, 08:23 PM
I'm going with Elite Lurker

Grynning
2008-11-06, 08:28 PM
I will throw in for Elite Lurker

A swarm that you can't see is WAY scarier than one that you can.

Alteran
2008-11-06, 08:29 PM
Elite Brute here.

Zocelot
2008-11-06, 09:07 PM
I'm going to vote Solo Artillery. I want to see a swarm that isn't all about the melee.

RTGoodman
2008-11-06, 10:41 PM
Hmm... gonna go with Elite Brute for this.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-06, 10:47 PM
Votes Tallied. Looks like most people are actually voting sanely! That mkes me happy :elan:

rayne_dragon
2008-11-07, 12:26 AM
Solo Skirmisher

Because I always have to be different... except when I'm not.

Zeta Kai
2008-11-07, 07:54 AM
Go ahead & throw another vote behind Elite Brute. It just makes sense.

Mewtarthio
2008-11-07, 11:02 AM
Hey, sweet, I started a bandwagon! :smallcool:

Athaniar
2008-11-07, 11:55 AM
Solo Brute, 'cause I think it fits.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-07, 09:40 PM
Well, the votes have been tallied, and the winner (by some strange consensus) is...

Elite Brute!

So this is going to be a Gargantuan Swarm of Blind Aberrant Beast that... you get the point.

So, now I'd like you all to vote on its Attack Keywords. Pick two and please, Bold your votes! The highest voted keywords (my discretion) will be used as for its powers.

Zocelot
2008-11-07, 10:08 PM
Healing, because I want to see how you do it.

Gaze, because I find the idea of blind creatures with a gaze attack hilarious.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-07, 10:17 PM
Healing, because I want to see how you do it.

Gaze, because I find the idea of blind creatures with a gaze attack hilarious.

You are very very cruel. Very.

Zeta Kai
2008-11-07, 10:18 PM
How about Acid & Fear.

Vadin
2008-11-07, 10:53 PM
Conjuration and Healing

Mewtarthio
2008-11-07, 10:53 PM
Charm and Disease

Shades of Gray
2008-11-07, 11:16 PM
Cold and Disease.

Mando Knight
2008-11-07, 11:39 PM
Radiant Necrotic

Because of the dissonance...

Lappy9000
2008-11-08, 02:02 AM
Radiant Gaze, if only because it sounds cool.

Lyndworm
2008-11-08, 02:03 AM
I vote Acid & Disease.

Zack

RTGoodman
2008-11-08, 02:08 AM
A swarm of mini-Cthulhus? Well, there seems to be a connection between the stars and Radiant power, and I like the idea of the "good" energy not always being so shiny and happy.

Also, for the sheer mind-destroying horror of a swarm of aberrant beast man was not meant to know, I'm going with Psychic.

Reverent-One
2008-11-08, 02:12 AM
Radiant Disease

rayne_dragon
2008-11-08, 02:20 AM
Radiant Disease

I thought that was going to be original, but I guess not. I like the idea of a disease that glows "Star Rot" or something....

Grynning
2008-11-08, 02:30 AM
I'd like Psychic and Healing

cnsvnc
2008-11-08, 07:42 AM
Healing and disease for the incompatibility.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-08, 10:12 AM
Votes tallied. This contest will end earlier than others, as it is the weekend, and I have to go to France soon...

puppyavenger
2008-11-08, 10:42 AM
Healing and Acid

paddyfool
2008-11-08, 10:42 AM
Disease and Necrotic. They seem to fit with the whole theme, to me.

Alteran
2008-11-08, 11:54 AM
Psychic and Disease.

Grynning
2008-11-08, 01:03 PM
I would just like to state for the record that there are 3 votes for Psychic that are not showing on the tally. It should beat out Acid as the other potential descriptor.

puppyavenger
2008-11-08, 01:08 PM
I would just like to state for the record that there are 3 votes for Psychic that are not showing on the tally. It should beat out Acid as the other potential descriptor.

this would be because the tallyer is off-line.

there's a vote for acid missing too.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-08, 02:27 PM
Votes tallied (I think). I will recount all the votes before the end of the contest just in case, but I think I've got it. Sorry, today has been/still is quite hectic.

Tuataralad
2008-11-08, 03:21 PM
Healing and Disease. It's like a massive, self-healing, disease-ridden, blind, abberant swarm of...somethings.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-09, 09:59 AM
Okay, I apologize that this vote was not ended on time. Due to unforseen circumstances, I did not have access to the computer last night when I thought I would.

In any case, the winners are...

Healing and Disease! (and maybe a few others)

So, now I'd like you all to vote on the monsters' alignment

Athaniar
2008-11-09, 10:30 AM
No, I think I will go with Neutral Evil for some weird reason.

Zocelot
2008-11-09, 11:07 AM
Lawful Good

Zeta Kai
2008-11-09, 12:58 PM
I shall vote for Chaotic Neutral, just to be nice. It's an obvious choice, but it's still appropriate.

Alteran
2008-11-09, 01:11 PM
Lawful Good

Seriously?

My vote goes to neutral evil.

Zocelot
2008-11-09, 01:43 PM
Seriously?


Yeah, I'm looking to add in some variety, and when was the last time you saw a lawful good swarm?

Reverent-One
2008-11-09, 01:47 PM
Lawful Neutral.

lordofthe_wog
2008-11-09, 01:48 PM
Lawful Good

This is a bloody brilliant idea, and I second it.

Lawful Good

Alteran
2008-11-09, 01:56 PM
Yeah, I'm looking to add in some variety, and when was the last time you saw a lawful good swarm?

My problem was more with a lawful good aberrant creature.

Zocelot
2008-11-09, 02:00 PM
My problem was more with a lawful good aberrant creature.

Life is hard for Lawful Good Aberrations, so they group together in a swarm to survive.

cnsvnc
2008-11-09, 02:02 PM
Zeta's first was a LG aberration, we don't need another one so soon. LN on the other hand...

Zeta Kai
2008-11-09, 02:23 PM
My problem was more with a lawful good aberrant creature.

You mean like the one that started all this Vote Up A Whatever nonsense (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5024872#post5024872)? :smallwink:

RTGoodman
2008-11-09, 03:13 PM
Well, in my opinion ALL good horrors Man was not meant to know should be Unaligned, so that's what I'm going with. :smalltongue:

Vadin
2008-11-09, 03:18 PM
Chaotic Neutral

Mewtarthio
2008-11-09, 03:21 PM
I'm voting for Neutral Evil.

Mando Knight
2008-11-09, 03:22 PM
LAWFUL GOOD!

rayne_dragon
2008-11-09, 05:17 PM
Chaotic Neutral sounds right to me.

Random NPC
2008-11-09, 05:29 PM
Chaotic Neutral

paddyfool
2008-11-09, 05:52 PM
Neutral Evil

puppyavenger
2008-11-09, 07:18 PM
chaotic Neutral

Juhn
2008-11-09, 10:27 PM
Healing and disease? Really. That seems so very... random. I suppose that makes Chaotic a good enough vote as far as that goes. With the ability to heal and the ability to cause disease, we've got both potential good and potential evil in there, so I guess that balances out to Neutral. Looks like my vote goes toward Chaotic Neutral.

RTGoodman
2008-11-10, 02:45 AM
Healing and disease?

Well, Healing doesn't mean that it has to heal others. Powers that let a creature heal itself also have the Healing keyword. It could just as easily be poisoning enemies around itself to heal itself up or something.

UnChosenOne
2008-11-10, 04:41 AM
Chaotic Neutral

bue52
2008-11-10, 10:31 AM
Hmmmm Chaotic Neutral seems to fit this monster's opposing abilities well.

WinterSolstice
2008-11-10, 12:23 PM
Chaotic Neutral

AgentPaper
2008-11-10, 12:27 PM
Chaotic Neutral seems the best choice. I think I'm gunna use this one in my game pretty soon, actually. The level is about right.


As for healing and disease, what about a healing disease? It actually gives you regeneration, increasing as you progress down the disease track, but it's extremely painful, or some other side effect. I'm thinking those worms from Futurama that made Fry smart and fit and such.

Mando Knight
2008-11-10, 03:43 PM
Oh come on... 4E needs more Good-aligned monstrosities, and what's more amusing than a Good Abomination?

Lyndworm
2008-11-11, 06:56 AM
I vote True Neutral. I prefer the idea of animalistic intelligence and organization for this guy.

Zack

Tuataralad
2008-11-11, 07:11 AM
you know, the more I think about it, Lawful Good seems like an awesome idea.

Mewtarthio
2008-11-11, 09:39 PM
I vote True Neutral. I prefer the idea of animalistic intelligence and organization for this guy.

I think you mean Unaligned.

I'd like to change my vote from Neutral Evil to Chaotic Neutral.

mikoto
2008-11-11, 10:06 PM
Lawful Good

Alteran
2008-11-12, 12:49 AM
I think you mean Unaligned.

Actually, in this contest the two are separate options.

Shadow_Elf defines unaligned as not taking a stand, not having a strong opinion either way. He defined true neutral as taking a deliberate effort not to stray too far to one side or the other.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-12, 05:58 AM
The votes have been tallied (fro, France :smallbiggrin:), and the winner is...

Chaotic Neutral!

Okay, well I'm the most afb I have ever been, so you'll all have to wait a week and a half for the reveal of...

Pandora's Paradox!

See you all then!

This concludes the voting of VUAM 4e 2

Alteran
2008-11-12, 06:03 PM
Awesome, I'm looking forward to it.

Tuataralad
2008-11-12, 09:48 PM
Hmm...I like the name at least. It will be cool to see how this turns out, I'm sure you'll do a good job.

Grynning
2008-11-24, 12:17 PM
Finish it....

http://adamanthenes.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/the-fountain.jpg