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afroakuma
2008-11-02, 10:56 AM
My own blatant thievery of Zeta Kai's Vote Up A Monster! This contest aims to create a D&D villain, complete with fluff! Please bold your vote.

This round's villain has been completed! I present to you the Caillteanas (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5253896#post5253896).

Contests that have gone before (or are currently running):
Vote Up A Monster (3.X) #1 by Zeta Kai (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4935219#post4935219)
Result: Gatekeeper (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5024872#post5024872)

Vote Up A Monster (3.X) #2 by Zeta Kai (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5061613#post5061613)
Result: Deus Ex Machina (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5109938#post5109938)

Vote Up A Monster (3.X) #3 by Zeta Kai (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5121003#post5121003)
Result: Ectoplasmic Swarm (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5189278#post5189278)

Vote Up A Monster (3.X) #4 by Zeta Kai (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95195)
Result: Pending

Vote Up A Monster (4E) #1 by Shadow_Elf (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5112259#post5112259)
Result: Songbird Spirit (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5183668#post5183668)

Vote Up A Monster (4E) #2 by Shadow_Elf (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5208278#post5208278)
Result: Pending

Vote Up A Villain (3.X) #1 by afroakuma (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5189703#post5189703)
Result: Maiden's Weeping/Swain of Varrone (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5213912#post5213912)


Currently Voting On: Voting Closed, Villain Complete

1. Type: Fey


{table=head]Type|Votes
Aberration|1
Animal|
Construct|
Dragon|
Elemental|
Fey|18
Giant|5
Humanoid|
Magical Beast|1
Monstrous Humanoid|
Ooze|
Outsider|1
Plant|
Undead|
Vermin|
[/table]

2. Race/Species: Unique (Humanoid)
Vote for any fey monster from any 3.X WotC source. The current table contains only fey from the Monster Manual. If you vote for a creature in another source, please list that source with your vote.

{table=head]Fey Race|Votes
Banshrae (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5221221&postcount=62)|2
Dryad|3
Grig|
Nixie|
Nymph|
Pixie|1
Satyr|1
Unique (Humanoid)|10
Unique (Fairylike)|
Unique (Zoomorphic)|1
Verdant Prince (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5220339&postcount=49)|9
[/table]


2b. Class: Hexblade
You may vote for other classes, but please bear in mind that certain classes have been disallowed. Non-core classes are italicized.

{table=head]Class|Votes|Class|Votes
Artificier|1|Ninja (new)|6
Barbarian|1|Paladin|
Bard||Psion|
Beguiler|1|Psychic Warrior|
Cleric||Ranger|
Crusader||Rogue|
Druid||Samurai (new)|
Duskblade||Scout|
Favored Soul||Sorcerer|6
Fighter|1|Swordsage|1
Healer||Warblade|
Hexblade|9|Warlock|
Matador (new)||Wilder|
Marshal||Wizard|
Monk||None|1
[/table]

3. CR: 14

{table=head]CR|Votes
1|
2|
3|
4|
5|
6|3
7|
8|1
9|6
10|1
11|
12|1
13|
14|9
15|
16|1
17|
18|
19|
20|
[/table]

4. Alignment: Chaotic Neutral

{table=head]Alignment|Votes|Alignment|Votes|Alignment|Votes
Lawful Good||Neutral Good||Chaotic Good|
Lawful Neutral||Neutral||Chaotic Neutral|16
Lawful Evil|3|Neutral Evil|2|Chaotic Evil|5
[/table]

5. Primary Motivation: Curiosity

{table=head]Motivation|Votes
Anarchy|1
Apathetic malice|3
Arrogance|
Curiosity|10
Depression|1
Envy|
Greater good|
Greed|
Hunger|1
Insanity|
Justice|
Logic|1
Love|
Malevolence|
Order|
Punch-clock villainy|1
Rage|1
Revenge|
Selfishness|
Self-loathing|
Spite|2
Survival|
[/table]

Zeta Kai
2008-11-02, 11:02 AM
Wow, so soon after the last awesome result. Okay, since it doesn't seem to happen on my VUAM threads, I'll vote for Giant. We need giants in this playground!

Luean
2008-11-02, 11:05 AM
This time, i'll vote for GIANT too.

Owrtho
2008-11-02, 11:26 AM
I hate giants, so I'll vote for Aberration.

Owrtho

Zeta Kai
2008-11-02, 11:28 AM
I hate giants, so I'll vote for Aberration.

What's to hate about giants? They're like us, only bigger. They're the anti-hobbits. :smalltongue:

Owrtho
2008-11-02, 11:31 AM
Yes, the bigness only makes the hate worse.

Owrtho

Lord_Gareth
2008-11-02, 12:11 PM
I, too, hate giants and Aberrations aren't my cup of tea, so let's see if Afro can do justice to the Fae - I'm sick of the Disneyfication of the Fair Folk.

afroakuma
2008-11-02, 12:14 PM
Regarding whether or not I can "do justice" to anything, cast your verdict on the previos villain. I'm interested to hear what people thought.

thegurullamen
2008-11-02, 12:39 PM
We no longer doing the vote-for-three-options thing for type? If not, I'll go Fey. If so, my other two are Outsider and Construct.

puppyavenger
2008-11-02, 12:41 PM
Fey it is, I want Celtic fae!

afroakuma
2008-11-02, 12:48 PM
Vote-for-three is only for the planes project vote.

Speaking of which, I have some work to do on that tonight.

Blasted weekend shifts.

Reverent-One
2008-11-02, 01:05 PM
I'll vote for Giant this time around.

HOHOHAHAHEEHEE
2008-11-02, 01:05 PM
Giant all the way.

Tar Palantir
2008-11-02, 01:12 PM
Fey. What's more embarrassing, being pasted by a giant, or being pasted by a butterfly-winged sprite?

Copacetic
2008-11-02, 01:18 PM
F-F-F-F-Fey

streakster
2008-11-02, 01:37 PM
Fey, fey, all the way...

Seriously, we need some creepy fey around here.

Juhn
2008-11-02, 02:03 PM
I guess I'll cast my vote with Fey and battle for medium size when it comes to that part. We have enough spritish things as it is.

afroakuma
2008-11-02, 02:07 PM
Sorry, Juhn, there's no size vote in this contest.

However, I will say that I have Celtic heritage, and leave it at that.

Mewtarthio
2008-11-02, 02:17 PM
What's more embarrassing, being pasted by a giant, or being pasted by a butterfly-winged sprite?

This sort of misconception is exactly why we need more creepy Fair Folk. Disney's not done that sort of thing since Sleepy Beauty, in which they managed to create the second most nightmare-inducing (for Kid Me, anyway) Disney villain ever (the first being that guy at the end of Fantasia).

That's a vote for Fey, by the way.

Thane of Fife
2008-11-02, 02:37 PM
I like Ike. I mean, Magical Beasts (not Ike).

Juhn
2008-11-02, 02:49 PM
Heh. I'll vote magical beast next time, though I'm thinking it'd make a better VUAM than VUAV.

Also I should have noticed that there is no size vote. I got it confused with VUAM. I'll just have to trust you, afroakuma, as I've got quite a bit of Celtic heritage as well (as in, nearly all of it).

afroakuma
2008-11-02, 02:54 PM
*shrug* I'd have said the same thing about plants, but the previous villan got a rather good reception.

Juhn
2008-11-02, 02:58 PM
...That's a good point. I don't think Magical Beast stands a chance of winning this one, but I'll probably place my vote there next time (assuming there is a next time).

Also, if we're going with Fey, is there any way to vote "Incomprehensible" or "Alien Morality" for motivation? The Fair Folk don't tend to think the way we do.

Lyndworm
2008-11-02, 02:59 PM
As much as I want to see a Giant, I'm going to have to vote for Fey. I just think that it will make a better villain.

Zack

Fako
2008-11-02, 03:36 PM
I want a Fey to go with the awesome plant you made...

CountD
2008-11-02, 03:48 PM
Fey, fo' sho'

cnsvnc
2008-11-02, 04:36 PM
Voting anything other than fey seems like a losing proposition.

afroakuma
2008-11-02, 04:39 PM
Well, sure, now it does.

Lord_Gareth
2008-11-02, 04:47 PM
Yay, I started the winning vote!

*Feels so warm and snuggly inside right now, he could turn into a faerie kitten*

Heliomance
2008-11-02, 04:57 PM
Fey, definitely. I love the concept of the Sidhe.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-02, 05:26 PM
Giant in the playground. I want to see a Giant with some villainous motives, not just the hacknslash variety.

Mewtarthio
2008-11-02, 05:57 PM
Also, if we're going with Fey, is there any way to vote "Incomprehensible" or "Alien Morality" for motivation? The Fair Folk don't tend to think the way we do.

Hm... Would that fall under PCV? They do evil things simply because that's their job?

Now, truly incomprehensible motives just aren't that interesting. It's viable for a monster, but it's not an especially good read for a detailed villain. Compare the story and motivations of our last villain with, say: "One day, Bob looked outside his window. It was sunny and Tuesday, so he killed us all."

afroakuma
2008-11-02, 06:01 PM
That sounds like The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime.

"Yellow cars meant it was a bad day."

Juhn: I'm inclined to say that their actions have a discernable motivation to themselves, so that would be the best way to vote. However, if you feel differently, I'd gladly accept an alternate Motivation vote when the time comes.

arguskos
2008-11-02, 06:59 PM
FEY! I actually hate Fey personally, but hey, I bet they can be fun as bad guys. :smallbiggrin:

-argus

LucyHarris
2008-11-02, 07:03 PM
I'm all for the Unseelie. Fey it is.

Kagehime
2008-11-02, 07:14 PM
I'll vote Fey, too. I play Changeling, and those "Tylwyth Teg" are anything but beautiful. They're nasty little blighters!

Oh, and the worst fey villain of all?

http://zelda.neoseeker.com/uploads/zelda/fairy37252_mini.jpg "HEY! LISTEN!" (Sorry, had to be said.)

afroakuma
2008-11-02, 07:15 PM
Ugh, THAT thing. CR 20, never been killed. More resilient than the Tarrasque.

Leliel
2008-11-02, 07:33 PM
Fey, thank you.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-02, 07:57 PM
Oh, and the worst fey villain of all?
http://zelda.neoseeker.com/uploads/zelda/fairy37252_mini.jpg "HEY! LISTEN!" (Sorry, had to be said.)


Watch Out! (Oops, too late)
I'm thinking of making a one-off dungeon with Navi as the BBEG.

Kagehime
2008-11-02, 08:00 PM
I'm thinking of making a one-off dungeon with Navi as the BBEG.

Seriously? I'd be interested, as I'm about to make Midna for myself.

afroakuma
2008-11-02, 08:08 PM
:smalleek: Serious glut of VUA's starting up.

I think I'll hold back Vote Up a Prestige Class until the dust clears a bit.

Vote Up A Villain will proceed as normal, however.

horngeek
2008-11-02, 09:30 PM
I'm actually going to go for Outsider

afroakuma
2008-11-02, 09:31 PM
Probably just an exercise in numeration by this point. Nonetheless, I'm holding type open until the usual turnover (0000 EST).

MattR
2008-11-02, 10:46 PM
I choose Fey

Mewtarthio
2008-11-02, 10:55 PM
Seriously? I'd be interested, as I'm about to make Midna for myself.

B-But Midna is awesome! :smalleek: You can't kill her!

afroakuma
2008-11-03, 12:07 AM
Well, Fey took it by a landslide. Now we vote on the villain's Race. Remember that other published fey are voting options as well. If you choose one, I will add it to the table along with its pic and a short descriptor.

arguskos
2008-11-03, 12:12 AM
I vote Verdant Prince, from the MM... V, I believe. Should that not be allowed, I'd go with a Satyr.

-argus

Owrtho
2008-11-03, 12:16 AM
Unique (Zoomorphic)

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-11-03, 12:17 AM
Verdant Prince is from the MMIV and is accepted and tabulated.

Verdant Prince Details



http://www.ravenmimura.com/images/full/VerdantPrince.jpg
The Verdant Prince is a powerful fey creature that makes supernatural pacts with mortals, providing them with services or blessings in exchange for a price that inevitably is more onerous than expected. Arrogant, capricious and cruel, they deliberately fill the terms of the bargain to the letter while exploiting their chosen form of payment to cause the greatest strife. They lead many lesser fey creatures.

Lyndworm
2008-11-03, 12:19 AM
I vote Grig. Insane crickitaurs are the best villains. Should this be disallowed, my vote will change to Unique (Zoomorphic).

Zack

afroakuma
2008-11-03, 12:21 AM
Grig is allowed. I will expand the Sprite listing accordingly.

Reverent-One
2008-11-03, 12:27 AM
I'll vote Verdant Prince, they look interesting.

thegurullamen
2008-11-03, 12:37 AM
Green moss-fire-hands for the win!

Verdant Prince!!!

arguskos
2008-11-03, 12:47 AM
Sweet, thanks for taking Verdant Prince afroakuma! Wasn't sure if they would work out that well.

-argus

Knaight
2008-11-03, 12:49 AM
Nymph, just because its entertaining.

Zeta Kai
2008-11-03, 01:05 AM
All the other options are good, but one fey is just designed to be a villain... the Banshrae (http://nightmare.org/dnd/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=19000&g2_serialNumber=2) from MMV. It's a CE Medium Fey, that looks suspiciously like a Doppelganger Bard.

streakster
2008-11-03, 01:15 AM
Unique Humanoid

Because Afro homebrewing makes me happy.

UnChosenOne
2008-11-03, 01:22 AM
Verdant Prince. Just because it look interesting.

vegetalss4
2008-11-03, 05:46 AM
i vote for verdant prince, because it looks awesome

MattR
2008-11-03, 06:08 AM
Banshrae if its allowed

Tuataralad
2008-11-03, 07:08 AM
Definitely Satyr

afroakuma
2008-11-03, 07:08 AM
Banshrae Details



http://nightmare.org/dnd/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=19000&g2_serialNumber=2
The banshrae is a wicked fey that employs ethereal music to bring suffering to others. They play a long, blowdart-shooting flute while in combat, and can cause vile curses with their powers.

LucyHarris
2008-11-03, 07:47 AM
I'd like to see something different, so Unique (Humanoid).

Lord_Gareth
2008-11-03, 07:48 AM
I'm going to vote for Unique (Humanoid) - I voted for Fey in the first place because I wanted to see a better representation of the Fair Folk, and WotC just hasn't published one that is, in my opinion, good enough.

You can do it Afro!

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-03, 07:49 AM
Pixie!. I was going to leave it at that, but the forums said my post was too short...

pondshadow
2008-11-03, 08:20 AM
Definatly unique (humanoid)

Luean
2008-11-03, 08:31 AM
Verdant Prince sounds nice to me.

Kagehime
2008-11-03, 09:33 AM
B-But Midna is awesome! :smalleek: You can't kill her!

Goddesses, man! I'm not going to kill her--I want to use her as a PC!

Anyway, Verdant Prince sounds cool.

Fako
2008-11-03, 11:10 AM
Verdant Prince

puppyavenger
2008-11-03, 11:29 AM
Verdant prince

afroakuma
2008-11-03, 02:50 PM
Good call by arguskos, I suppose.

Kind of suspected that one would crop up.

Edge
2008-11-03, 03:07 PM
Unique humanoid. Mainly because it can pull off the verdant prince stuff without looking so... tree-like.

horngeek
2008-11-03, 04:22 PM
Dyrad. Because you could have a lot of plot hooks.

afroakuma
2008-11-03, 05:52 PM
Spread getting bigger here.

Thane of Fife
2008-11-03, 06:14 PM
Put me down for a Dryad, if you will.

Vadin
2008-11-03, 06:19 PM
Another vote for Dryad.

cnsvnc
2008-11-03, 06:22 PM
Unique humanoid. I'll bet Afro can do something better than some verdant prince if his previous thread is any indication.

afroakuma
2008-11-03, 06:29 PM
I appreciate the sentiment, cnsvnc.

Leliel
2008-11-03, 10:37 PM
Verdant Prince, beacuse the idea is major pwn.

Mewtarthio
2008-11-03, 10:41 PM
Unique Humanoid, because I want to load afro down with more work want afro's uniquely awesome homebrew to be relatively unconstrained.

afroakuma
2008-11-03, 11:08 PM
Just so everyone's aware, I'll be allowing Class on this one.

puppyavenger
2008-11-03, 11:08 PM
Just so everyone's aware, I'll be allowing Class on this one.

so whens the vote close?

afroakuma
2008-11-03, 11:09 PM
My standard vote close/turnover is always 0000 EST (0500 GMT)

Lyndworm
2008-11-03, 11:11 PM
Please change my vote from Grig to Unique (Humanoid).

I'm not going to try to sway you guys to any one decision, but I am going to try to sway you guys away from Verdant Prince. I agree that they're pretty much awesome, but they already have their personality, motives, and methods described in their entry. In closing;

Verdant Princes are already pre-made villains.

Not that it'll do much good. The voting stops in less than an hour...

Zack

afroakuma
2008-11-03, 11:14 PM
Vote change acknowledged.

Don't worry, Lyndworm. If Verdant Prince wins, I'll still be making a unique villain. There are still the Alignment and Motivation votes to consider.

puppyavenger
2008-11-03, 11:18 PM
eh, change mine from verdant prince to Unique (humanoid)

Lyndworm
2008-11-03, 11:26 PM
Vote change acknowledged.

Don't worry, Lyndworm. If Verdant Prince wins, I'll still be making a unique villain. There are still the Alignment and Motivation votes to consider.

I know that, and I have complete faith in your abilities. I just think that it would be more fun to see something different.

Zack

Knaight
2008-11-03, 11:27 PM
Switching from Nymph to Unique(Humanoid)

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 12:01 AM
Alright, you turncoats, your coats turned a sure win for the Verdant Prince into a win for Unique (Humanoid).

Next, I'm actually going to allow a vote on the fey's Class. You may pick any of the classes listed in the table (including "none") or offer up another. Please be advised that I have the final say on all extraneous classes; if you feel like risking one, please submit it with an alternate vote just in case, as I'm off to bed at the moment. :smallbiggrin:

puppyavenger
2008-11-04, 12:04 AM
I'm voting Sorcerer

Fako
2008-11-04, 12:04 AM
I want to see your Ninja class in action, so I'll put my vote there.

streakster
2008-11-04, 12:08 AM
I vote for VOID PALM!

Err, that is, Ninja

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 12:10 AM
:smallbiggrin: Didn't need to ask to know what you'd be voting for, streakster.

Continue the voting, I'll be back in ~7 hours.

arguskos
2008-11-04, 12:29 AM
Bah, I personally think that Verdant Prince would have been a fine choice, but nope, someone has no imagination. :smallannoyed:

Anyways, I vote for Sorcerer.

-argus

Zeta Kai
2008-11-04, 12:34 AM
I'll be avant garde & vote for None. A great villain needs no class.

streakster
2008-11-04, 01:16 AM
I'll be avant garde & vote for None. A great villain needs no class.

But isn't class what makes a great villain? [/rimshot]

Reverent-One
2008-11-04, 01:26 AM
I have a personal attachment to the Hexblade class, so there my vote goes.

Owrtho
2008-11-04, 02:35 AM
I'll vote Beguiler. might change to Hexblade later depending on how votes go. But either way I think fey should be about tricking others and causing them problems.

Owrtho

Lyndworm
2008-11-04, 03:36 AM
I think that I'd like to see a fey Ninja as well.

Zack

MattR
2008-11-04, 04:18 AM
Beguiler because the best villians don't have to do the dirty work themselves.

Plus ninja? woohoo i have the ability to disappear and run away.. truly that's ultimate power. Ninja is more of a minion class.

Drakefall
2008-11-04, 05:04 AM
Beguiler, Hexblade, Beguiler, Hexblade... such a difficult choice...

I guess I'll go Hexblade just because when they yell "curses!" after the party has foiled their evil plan yet again it actually has an effect.:smalltongue:

vegetalss4
2008-11-04, 05:46 AM
i vote for warlock

Lord Mancow
2008-11-04, 05:55 AM
I'll vote for sorcerer.

cnsvnc
2008-11-04, 06:50 AM
Fighter. A fey that kicks ass and takes names is too awesome to pass.

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 07:20 AM
Pretty diverse this round!

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-04, 07:51 AM
"All you've got left are yer fancy karaté tricks and yer bloody knives"
I vote Ninja

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 07:55 AM
Have you seen my ninja class, Shadow? Fancy karate tricks are the least of anyone's worries.

Lord_Gareth
2008-11-04, 08:21 AM
I say Hexblade!

streakster
2008-11-04, 08:21 AM
Plus ninja? woohoo i have the ability to disappear and run away.. truly that's ultimate power. Ninja is more of a minion class.

Not this Ninja. Oh no. No. This Ninja has VOID PALM!

...I mean, this Ninja class is well-redesigned while being entertaining to play and a valuable addition to any party...

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 08:24 AM
C'mon, streakster, you don't even know that I would give this one Void Palm. Darn straight I'm gonna. No matter what class you losers vote.

Vadin
2008-11-04, 08:31 AM
Hexblade! FOR GREATER JUSTICE!

streakster
2008-11-04, 08:48 AM
C'mon, streakster, you don't even know that I would give this one Void Palm. Darn straight I'm gonna. No matter what class you losers vote.

Thank heavens for secret ninja messages. I about had a post of nothing but sad emoticons.:smalleek::smallmad::smallfrown:

Colt
2008-11-04, 09:43 AM
Artificer, because it would be awesome.

Sacrath
2008-11-04, 09:47 AM
I'll vote for Sorcerer because its a DM's best friend! You don't need to plan out the encounter, just have a check sheet with his spell levels on it and fill in the spells as the encounter goes on! And he attacks you with... Reverse Gravity, sorry man tough break.

Lord_Gareth
2008-11-04, 10:22 AM
If there's as close enough vote, will you multiclass it? What about PrCs (see the Black Duke and the Red Widow, MM5)?

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 10:33 AM
PrC's are at my sole discretion and will partially rely on the final CR. Multiclassing may occur based on the vote result but is by no means guaranteed.

vegetalss4
2008-11-04, 11:57 AM
because it is obvilius that warlock don't stand a chance by now.
i would like to change my vote to sorcerer

thegurullamen
2008-11-04, 12:38 PM
He-he-he-he-HEXBLADE!!!

CountD
2008-11-04, 12:44 PM
I vote...

Ninja!

Thane of Fife
2008-11-04, 12:53 PM
I kind of like the idea of a Fey Barbarian. The mental image is just wonderful.

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 02:54 PM
Still in a dead heat...interesting

Owrtho
2008-11-04, 03:37 PM
Hmm, well, since more people seems to prefer hexblade to beguiler, I'll change my vote to Hexblade.

Owrtho

horngeek
2008-11-04, 04:29 PM
Let's Do somthing new.
Swordsage

HOHOHAHAHEEHEE
2008-11-04, 04:30 PM
Hexblade fey would be interesting.

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 04:53 PM
The vote switching makes this contest dirtier, doesn't it?

May have to do something about that...

Zeta Kai
2008-11-04, 07:50 PM
The vote switching makes this contest dirtier, doesn't it?

May have to do something about that...

Yeah, I'm considering the possibility of making an additional rule to my VUAs that discourages vote-changing. I feel like it's done too often, & is often based on how subsequent votes are cast. This demonstrates a lack of decision & commitment that should dilute the rest of contest. I mean, you can't change your vote in real elections, why can't people stand by their votes here?

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 07:53 PM
I suppose it's because here, latecoming voters often have to steer towards one of the "viable options" to make a ripple.

I'll consider the amendment on future contests.

LucyHarris
2008-11-04, 07:54 PM
Sorcerer, methinks.

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 09:28 PM
There we are.

Now if only other votes would tally as fast (Grr, slow American elections)

Owrtho
2008-11-04, 10:19 PM
I don't think that the vote changing should be changed. Or if at all put a limit on the number of times per round. Part of the reason is that unlike in a normal election, the voting here isn't confedential. Everyone knows everyone else's vote and the current standing of the votes. Thus if someone has two things they prefer, and the one that they like slightly less is doing better than the one they prefer, they will more likely vote for the one they like slightly less. Simmilarly, if they see that one of the options the realy dislike is winning (significantly), they will more likely vote for the option that has the best chance of beating it that they aren't as opposed to. This in the end give late coming voters more of an advantage in casting their vote. The ones that vote early are able to have greater influance (as it is their early votes that impact the late comer's votes), but are much more uncertain as they could vote for something and everyone else ignores it.

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 10:24 PM
Yeah, but look at last round, when several people changed from their original (leading) vote to a different selection, which ended up winning. That's dirty voting. There was no impact from early voting; rather, the leader was converted out of due to a few users' stray comments. Also, rallying against the most popular vote because you dislike it is unproductive and undemocratic to those who cast their votes for it from the outset. Essentially, it discards the validity of early votes, and of those of anyone who isn't watching at the end.

Lappy9000
2008-11-04, 10:34 PM
As tempting as a fey barbarian may be, and trust me, it is,
Put me down for Hexblade.

Owrtho
2008-11-04, 11:33 PM
However, the fact that votes are known as soon as they are cast compromises the system. Also, how is it undemocratic for a statment made by another voter to change someone's mind? The only difference in that and in normal elections is that in a normal election, all the discusion would be done beforhand without any actual voting after which everyone would make a decision in light of the descusion and cast their vote confidencialy. The statments that make others change their votes could be considered little differant than an election campaign. As for the ganging up agains unliked votes, that can't be avoided with the public voting system used.

If you realy wanted it to be like a normal voting, you would likely have to have a day or two of debating over the choices, followed by a period when you can be pmed votes (and not accept votes befor that period). And you would only anounce the votes once the voting period was over.

Owrtho

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 11:39 PM
Didn't say I wanted it to be like normal voting; I'm simply suggesting that after the Verdant Prince fiasco above, I should enforce responsible voting.


Also, how is it undemocratic for a statment made by another voter to change someone's mind?

It is undemocratic not to have responsible voting.


As for the ganging up agains unliked votes, that can't be avoided with the public voting system used.

Again, drawing votes out of losing categories is what's enabling this.

More to the point, why do you want freedom to change vote?

Mewtarthio
2008-11-04, 11:49 PM
It is undemocratic not to have responsible voting.

But what is "responsible voting"? Sure, you could easily argue that people switching votes away from a losing side just to spite the side they don't want to win is irresponsible, but what about the people who changed from Verdant Prince to Unique Humanoid? That's clearly a valid opinion change, as they switched away from the winning side when they decided that they no longer wanted it to win.

Also, Ninja.

UnChosenOne
2008-11-04, 11:51 PM
Hexblade. Just because cool X.

afroakuma
2008-11-04, 11:52 PM
Responsible voting is casting your vote when you've determined that it is what you want to commit to. If you need time to gauge where the wind is blowing, you take it.

Again, I'm not saying that I'm going to eliminate vote changing. I'm simply saying that it was a concern in the last round of voting.

Also, I have yet to see an argument that supports vote changing in a manner other than attacking vote locking. T'would probably be more compelling.

Lord_Gareth
2008-11-04, 11:56 PM
Vote changing is something I personally don't care about, but allowing vote changes allows for shifts of opinion; from a wacky vote to a serious one, for example, or to get behind a particularly eloquent argument. The voting community for these contests is relatively insular, which means that you can't rely on new people to shift the vote behind a really good idea; you must persuade the old guard.

Knaight
2008-11-05, 12:02 AM
And as an example of new people changing the vote, none. Thats right, its viable now. Technically this would be something along the lines of Fey Hit Dice, but whatever.

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 12:06 AM
Vote changing is something I personally don't care about, but allowing vote changes allows for shifts of opinion; from a wacky vote to a serious one, for example

The responsible voting argument from above refers exactly to this.


or to get behind a particularly eloquent argument.

This is why I like vote changing. Things like the introduction of homebrew special abilities in Zeta's contests, for instance.

And Knaight, I'm sorry, but your vote cannot be tallied, as you clocked 2 minutes past 0000 EST. Please direct your vote to CR instead.

puppyavenger
2008-11-05, 12:07 AM
The responsible voting argument from above refers exactly to this.



This is why I like vote changing. Things like the introduction of homebrew special abilities in Zeta's contests, for instance.

And Knaight, I'm sorry, but your vote cannot be tallied, as you clocked 2 minutes past 0000 EST. Please direct your vote to CR instead.

so which class won?

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 12:09 AM
My fearsome fairy will be a Hexblade. Please now vote on this perilous pixie's CR.

Reverent-One
2008-11-05, 12:12 AM
My fearsome fairy will be a Beguiler. Please now vote on this perilous pixie's CR.

Which begs the question of why have voting if you'll just arbitraily make choices.

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 12:17 AM
Blast it I meant the other one. Hexblade.

Reverent-One
2008-11-05, 12:18 AM
Blast it I meant the other one. Hexblade.

Ahh, I was wondering if you had just decided to switch it just to spite the vote-changers. But you did not, so I am happy, since I started the winning vote, which I didn't actually expect to win.

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 12:21 AM
I will never meddle with this contest out of spite for people. Congratulations on starting a winner!

puppyavenger
2008-11-05, 12:21 AM
Ahh, I was wondering if you had just decided to switch it just to spite the vote-changers. But you did not, so I am happy, since I started the winning vote, which I didn't actually expect to win.

speaking of which, just for fun, 14

thegurullamen
2008-11-05, 12:22 AM
Bandwagon!!! 14

blackspeeker
2008-11-05, 12:27 AM
14 Because Joining Is Cool!

Reverent-One
2008-11-05, 12:29 AM
And I will break from the pack and suggest 9, as we've just had a lvl 13 villian made last time.

Stormthorn
2008-11-05, 12:32 AM
CR 6 because the last thread i looked at also had a high CR villain, which in a game starting at level 1 wouldnt be killable for like 15 sessions. (at the rate me and my friends play).

A villain doesnt have to be super-powered to be compelling. The smaller the scale the more options. For instance, epic villains would seem silly with small-focus goals like avenging one persons death or becomeing the head of one thieves guild, even though these situations provide more personal involvment.
For the sake of narrative and RP and slow games. Vote 6.

This post has bene approved by the God of Death.

Lord_Gareth
2008-11-05, 12:32 AM
I shall also say CR 9

Owrtho
2008-11-05, 12:38 AM
I'll vote 9, as we just had a villan of the unlucky 13CR, though it does now seem that it would have better suited this bad luck causing villan. Just make sure you have the ability to scale it to 13.

Owrtho

Zeta Kai
2008-11-05, 12:43 AM
Well, a Verdant Prince is a CR11 monster, so I guess the only question is: what level of Hexblade do we want this thing to have? Even if it's only a 1st-level Hexblade, then it would be CR12. Now, a good villain needs good powers, so it can't be too weak. But we shouldn't pile on too many class levels, as we should probably avoid making this an epic villain. We do want this to be usable in most campaigns, after all.

Now, I think a good level for Hexblade is 7th: this is when they get Greater Hexblade's Curse, & it's right before a dead level. So, I suppose I'm throwing my support behind CR18.

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 12:44 AM
I should point out that the last villain was scalable thanks to its template. Stormthorn, that would allow you to use it (on a level 1 Aristocrat, which fits the fluff perfectly) as of level 2/3 without much risk.

Zeta, you may have missed it: It's not a Verdant Prince. I'll hold off on counting your vote until you confirm.

puppyavenger
2008-11-05, 12:44 AM
Well, a Verdant Prince is a CR11 monster, so I guess the only question is: what level of Hexblade do we want this thing to have? Even if it's only a 1st-level Hexblade, then it would be CR12. Now, a good villain needs good powers, so it can't be too weak. But we shouldn't pile on too many class levels, as we should probably avoid making this an epic villain. We do want this to be usable in most campaigns, after all.

Now, I think a good level for Hexblade is 7th: this is when they get Greater Hexblade's Curse, & it's right before a dead level. So, I suppose I'm throwing my support behind CR18.

its a unique humanoid, not verdant prince.

Stormthorn
2008-11-05, 01:01 AM
I should point out that the last villain was scalable thanks to its template. Stormthorn, that would allow you to use it (on a level 1 Aristocrat, which fits the fluff perfectly) as of level 2/3 without much risk.

You have a point. But while i would never make a plant a villain (C'mon! Have standards!) i can think up lots of ideas for unique humanoid i would want to use.

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 01:04 AM
The villain is a Fey, remember. It will be a unique fey (not a printed monster) with a humanoid semblance (as opposed to being partly animal or fairylike).

Stormthorn
2008-11-05, 01:06 AM
Thats ok! I love most Fey. I even came up with rules for Goblins as tougher more serious Fey creatures.

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 01:11 AM
Excellent! I hope this one's usable for you, then! If not, there will be a consolation prize. :smallcool:

I'm off for some much-needed sleep. Votes will be tallied in... ~7, 8 hours if I'm lucky.

Zeta Kai
2008-11-05, 01:12 AM
Zeta, you may have missed it: It's not a Verdant Prince. I'll hold off on counting your vote until you confirm.

WTF?!? When? Ugh. :smallmad:

Oh, hell, I'll vote CR14, then. My previous arguments for a mid-level Hexblade (around Hex7 or so) still stand.

thegurullamen
2008-11-05, 01:49 AM
WTF?!? When? Ugh. :smallmad:

Oh, hell, I'll vote CR14, then. My previous arguments for a mid-level Hexblade (around Hex7 or so) still stand.

Methinks it was a last minute thing. Anyway, if you think about it, Verdant Princes are Unique Humanoid Fey. All you've lost is the specificity and fiery-moss hands.

Owrtho
2008-11-05, 01:50 AM
Actualy, given Zeta Kai's argument on the mid level hexblade (and the fact I forgot about the race's base cr), I'll change my vote from 9 to 14.

Owrtho

Lord Mancow
2008-11-05, 01:53 AM
I'll be voting for CR8, no bandwagon for CR9!:smallbiggrin:

Heliomance
2008-11-05, 03:14 AM
CR 20. Because Fey are badass.

LucyHarris
2008-11-05, 06:52 AM
CR 9, yo.

<Useless gunk here because it won't let me post unless I have more than ten characters>

Drakefall
2008-11-05, 07:19 AM
Hmm... This fey strikes me as the recurring villain type, or at least that's what I want him to be for inexplicable reasons known only to the leeks. As such I can see him starting off as a CR6, as was previously stated, and working his way up to a CR20, as was also previously stated, growing stronger for all his battles (with the party and otherwise).

To support my campaign of recuringness I shall advertise with my deplorable rap skills!

ehem...
You can't kill da Fey
Cause da Fey just ran away

Get it? The "ran away" part refers to his recurrences and subsequent battles with the PC's... cause after they beat him... he runs away... ha ha... ha... XD

Now to vote for him when he's weak, competent or strong is the question... meh, what the hey I'll just vote for CR12 as nice middle ground!

UnChosenOne
2008-11-05, 08:25 AM
14. Just because 14 is good number.

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 08:31 AM
A villain with class levels can easily be scaled by just taking them away. I don't anticipate needing to install extra scaling beyond that.

Fako
2008-11-05, 10:29 AM
CR 14 for me.

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 02:56 PM
Interesting to see where this goes. Once again, Motivation will be the most decisive factor, though.

Thane of Fife
2008-11-05, 03:07 PM
I'd like to say CR 4, but put me down for CR 6, as it appears to have a better hope of surviving.

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 04:01 PM
Glad to see people are taking to this contest. I'm really excited to see how this one will turn out.

Speaking of which, any Scottish Gaelic or Irish Gaelic speakers here?

puppyavenger
2008-11-05, 04:02 PM
so how much longer is the CR vote going on for?

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 04:13 PM
Votes remain open until 0000 EST. So, eight hours less a bit.

Leliel
2008-11-05, 07:29 PM
16 thank you much.

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 09:22 PM
Drawing close to the Alignment vote.

horngeek
2008-11-05, 09:28 PM
14

Make hard.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-05, 09:57 PM
CR 10. Then, Zeta's monstrosity can be its minions.

puppyavenger
2008-11-05, 09:58 PM
CR 10. Then, Zeta's monstrosity can be its minions.

out of curiosity, why 10? Zeta's is 9, so two of them are stronger then it if you win.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-05, 10:01 PM
out of curiosity, why 10? Zeta's is 9, so two of them are stronger then it if you win.

Just because they are stronger than him together, doesn't mean they can't be its minions. A General of an Army can't take on all his soldiers One against all. They trust him (or fear him) (or are ensorcelled by him) (or are created by him) (or are summoned and bound to and by him), so he gives them orders. They don't need to be a fraction of his power.

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 10:25 PM
Not to mention Zeta's creature is an elemental. Unless he plots to give it some sort of staying power, I may just give my creature

Banish Elemental With A Baseball Bat (Ex) <this villain> can conjure a mystical baseball bat, the merest touch of which banishes any Outsiders or Elementals back to their home planes.

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-05, 10:31 PM
Not to mention Zeta's creature is an elemental. Unless he plots to give it some sort of staying power, I may just give my creature

Banish Elemental With A Baseball Bat (Ex) <this villain> can conjure a mystical baseball bat, the merest touch of which banishes any Outsiders or Elementals back to their home planes.

You must! You must give your villain this!

afroakuma
2008-11-05, 10:34 PM
Do the Banish Elemennal!
Banish Elemennal!
Banish Elemennal widda Base Ball Bat!
Do the Banish Elemennal!
Banish Elemennal!
Banish Elemennal widda Base Ball Bat!
Banish Elemen-tal!
Banish Elemen-tal
Hey Banish Elemen-tal!
Banish Elemen-tal!

afroakuma
2008-11-06, 12:02 AM
Alright, everyone, this sinister sprite will be CR 14. Even tougher than last round's baddie.

Now I'll be needing this creature's Alignment.

streakster
2008-11-06, 12:05 AM
Chaotic Neutral.

He'll save your life, then he'll steal your car.

Blue Ghost
2008-11-06, 12:20 AM
I cast my vote for Lawful Evil. A totalitarian witch-king.

Owrtho
2008-11-06, 12:28 AM
I'll vote for Chaotic neutral. I think of the fey as acting on whims reguardless of how it effects others.

Owrtho

UnChosenOne
2008-11-06, 01:04 AM
Lawful Evil. LE are usualy more interesting that chaotic villain's.

Owrtho
2008-11-06, 01:15 AM
While that can be true, I can't see a fey as being lawful. They always struck me as being more fickle.

Owrtho

thegurullamen
2008-11-06, 01:33 AM
Let me say this in a variety of ways.

(Nickelodeon Global GUTS) C-c-c-can you feel it?
(Moulin Rouge) Yes we can Can-Can!
(Obama) Yes we can! Yes we can!
(Sparta) THIS!! IS!! SPARTA!! (I know nothing was said there, but it's awesome.)
(Web meme) "Mercy? I'm CHAOTIC NEUTRAL!"

vegetalss4
2008-11-06, 04:35 AM
LAAAWFUL-EVIL du du du dududu LAAAWFULL-EVIL

Zeta Kai
2008-11-06, 06:59 AM
Well, it's fey, so Chaotic is par for the course. It's a villain, so Evil is expected, too. Hmm, well, I almost never go in this direction, because it's been done far too often, but I will go with the logical choice & vote for Chaotic Evil.

afroakuma
2008-11-06, 07:20 AM
Okay, a few interesting choices so far.

Heliomance
2008-11-06, 07:25 AM
CN CN doo doo doo doo doo
CN CN doo doo doo doo

Thane of Fife
2008-11-06, 07:30 AM
I'm a fan of Chaotic Evil.

Drakefall
2008-11-06, 07:38 AM
He's not evil, he's just misunderstood... and steals cars. Chaotic Neutral ftw!

Lappy9000
2008-11-06, 07:39 AM
Chaotic Evil. Villians' gotta commit.

afroakuma
2008-11-06, 08:03 AM
Stll several contenders. Very interesting.

cnsvnc
2008-11-06, 08:25 AM
CN, because outright evil villains are too many.

Mewtarthio
2008-11-06, 09:26 AM
Chaotic goes without saying for a fey. I'll go with Evil for the moral axis, because he's not really much of a villain if he doesn't hurt people to further his own goals.

Bago!!!
2008-11-06, 09:28 AM
CN! CN!

Being any lawful is just simply outragous for a few and anything evil must mean the classic "I'LL KILL, RAPE, AND PILLAGE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT!"

Random villians are more amusing, espicialyl when they don't register as evil.

blackspeeker
2008-11-06, 09:33 AM
I'll go with Neutral Evil, because that's my favorite.

Lord_Gareth
2008-11-06, 09:37 AM
Chaotic Nuetral, but with the added condition that the villain be sane. The Fae are solipsistic, not crazy; they aren't just as likely to throw you off a bridge as buy you a drink.

Luean
2008-11-06, 10:04 AM
Chaotic Nuetral, but with the added condition that the villain be sane. The Fae are solipsistic, not crazy; they aren't just as likely to throw you off a bridge as buy you a drink.

I second that.

Chaotic Neutral, please.

Fako
2008-11-06, 10:23 AM
I agree with Owrtho, Chatoic Neutral makes the most sense for Fey.

puppyavenger
2008-11-06, 10:32 AM
Chaotic Nuetral, but with the added condition that the villain be sane. The Fae are solipsistic, not crazy; they aren't just as likely to throw you off a bridge as buy you a drink.

seconded

Chaotic Neutral

Kagehime
2008-11-06, 10:51 AM
It might be interesting to see a LE fey, but it really doesn't fit the type. As C:TL puts it, they only do whatever seems amusing at the time--they are more or less sane, I think, but their way of thinking is alien to human (or other PC races) minds.

So...chaotic neutral it is.

afroakuma
2008-11-06, 11:19 AM
I smell a landslide.

HOHOHAHAHEEHEE
2008-11-06, 11:31 AM
Not that it matters, but neutral evil.

Athaniar
2008-11-06, 12:58 PM
I agree with the CN crowd, not just because it's going to win anyway, but also because it can be a great "trickster" kind of villain, somewhat like Loki before he murdered Balder.

Also, how much left until next vote? 'Cause I already know which motivations to vote for. How many can we vote for? One? Two? Three? Even more?

afroakuma
2008-11-06, 03:01 PM
You will vote for only one motivation. The voting will open at 0000 EST.

horngeek
2008-11-06, 04:19 PM
Chaotic Neutral

Juhn
2008-11-06, 05:07 PM
Glad to see I didn't miss out entirely on this while I was away for the past few days. I'm also glad to see that this villain is shaping up exactly how I'd envisioned it, so far. Except for the hexblade thing, as I have no idea what those are. If it involves cursing and such, though, then the voters are doing this right.

I voted CN in the last one, but it fits better here. I've already pointed out that I'd like this fey to be entirely inscrutable as far as motivation goes, which would be interpreted by normal people as Chaotic. As people have pointed out, the Fair Folk are as likely to help you as to harm you (for their own reasons, of course), so Neutral seems like the best fit on the Good/Evil axis.

Just pointing out that I've got logical reasons for voting for what happens to be the leader at the moment. Oh, and for tallying's sakes, Chaotic Neutral.

afroakuma
2008-11-06, 05:34 PM
Glad you could make it back, Juhn! Be sure to check back tomorrow for the Motivation vote!

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-06, 05:43 PM
Chaotic Neutral!

I so wanted to do this before I noticed it was winning.

Lyndworm
2008-11-06, 05:52 PM
I'll go with Chaotic Evil. I don't normally like that alignment much, but it seems to fit rather well here.

Zack

afroakuma
2008-11-06, 07:26 PM
Four and a half hours until Motivation voting begins, for those who are anticipating that leg.

I'm seriously considering just doing the turnover now, since CN's got such a preposterous lead. However, I think it best that I stick to my own rules.

thegurullamen
2008-11-06, 10:11 PM
I and everyone else who voted for CN wish to change our votes to LG. Then to LN, then back to LG. Then half of us will grow discontent with the current government and form a splinter cell of CE enthusiasts. Faced with such a clear and present danger, the remaining LGers will slowly migrate to TN, scattering about 75% of the whole between LN and NG. Meanwhile, the CEs will fight amongst themselves and draw the attention of the LE who will wish to slowly ensnare the wills and powers of the misbegotten and aimless CXs through subtle manipulation. After nine years of propaganda, two-thirds of the CXs will have fallen into LE territory, another 10% into NE and the remainder will have reincorporated themselves into the LG-in-name-only crowds, which will have scattered all over the XN and XG alignments. Forced into close quarters, the LG-in-name-only empire will war with the LE overlords and someone somewhere will succumb to hubris, reducing the vastly populated alignment spectrum down to its original numbers. Facing death by starvation in the new moral and power vacuum, droves of people will flock to the one remaining ideal: everyone for himself, or CN.

In other words, it was meant to be.

afroakuma
2008-11-06, 10:21 PM
Barring some insidious conspiracy in these last 100 minutes, CN will sweep it by a landslide.

puppyavenger
2008-11-06, 10:28 PM
Barring some insidious conspiracy in these last 100 minutes, CN will sweep it by a landslide.

now remember, CN doesn't have insidious conspiracies.

it has giant frog.

afroakuma
2008-11-06, 10:40 PM
I was referring to insidious conspiracies by the other alignments.

I'm sure you're aware that I am very much in favor of giant frog. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92837)

afroakuma
2008-11-07, 12:03 AM
Alright, the votes have spoken! The villain will be Chaotic Neutral.

Now, the moment we've all been waiting for, the vote for this foul fairy's Primary Motivation.

The table has been alphabetized for ease of use.

blackspeeker
2008-11-07, 12:10 AM
Only because I don't know how it could work I cast my vote towards depression.

Lord_Gareth
2008-11-07, 12:15 AM
Spite, homies. Pure Spite.

Lappy9000
2008-11-07, 12:23 AM
Chaotic Neutral Fey, you say? Anarchy.

streakster
2008-11-07, 12:24 AM
What? No Giant Frog?

Ah well, then one vote for Curiosity.

Owrtho
2008-11-07, 12:25 AM
Logic. It all makes sense to him.

Owrtho

puppyavenger
2008-11-07, 12:25 AM
What? No Giant Frog?

Ah well, then one vote for Curiosity.

I agree, because a villain who's just destroying the world to find out what happens is awesome
curiosity

Mewtarthio
2008-11-07, 12:26 AM
The fey has an alien mindset, which in turn means that our mindset is alien to him. He is, furthermore, high-level enough to abduct, toy with, and/or experiment on most people with nigh impunity, while still being low level enough to concern himself with mortal affairs. I vote Curiosity.

afroakuma
2008-11-07, 12:27 AM
You know, I wouldn't be surprised to see every single category get at least one vote this time. Quite a variety so far.

puppyavenger
2008-11-07, 12:32 AM
You know, I wouldn't be surprised to see every single category get at least one vote this time. Quite a variety so far.

no! all should vote for curious Fae!

Reverent-One
2008-11-07, 12:43 AM
I'm going to vote curiosity, I like logic as a motivation in general, but for a fey, curiosity fits better.

thegurullamen
2008-11-07, 12:47 AM
Curiosity, but I did want to go pure malice.

Fako
2008-11-07, 02:15 AM
I vote Curiosity as well.

Lord Mancow
2008-11-07, 03:47 AM
Rage, he is crazy.

He can talk like this, "You gonna get sum bad mojo mon!"
Just as he bursts into a wild, cursing rage.

Heliomance
2008-11-07, 03:56 AM
Amusement. They are attempting to destroy the world, as the vernacular would have it, for the lulz.

Luean
2008-11-07, 05:14 AM
Hm, i vote for Curiosity

cnsvnc
2008-11-07, 05:26 AM
A spiteful little bastard.

vegetalss4
2008-11-07, 05:59 AM
curosity...


is aperently to short a message

Shadow_Elf
2008-11-07, 07:39 AM
I also vote for Amusement. The Fey are just toying with us, and don't really care how what they do affects the material plane.

Zeta Kai
2008-11-07, 07:53 AM
I was intrigued by the idea of Punch-Clock Villainy from the last VUAV thread, & it seems a bit more apt here, so that's what I shall vote for.

afroakuma
2008-11-07, 08:16 AM
Guru, it is possible to vote for pure malice: malevolence. Think Maleficent from Sleeping Beauty.

Those of you who voted Amusement - it wasn't actually on the chart. I felt the nearest similar option was Apathetic malice - the drive to do mischief out of boredom or without commitment. If anyone would like to debate that point, feel free.

Drakefall
2008-11-07, 09:21 AM
Hmm.. well my first choice would be boredom. It's the epitome of chaotic neutral motivation to me. But since it's not a choice I'll go for Apathetic Malice for that luke warm "close enough" feel.

I must admit that I was really tempted to vote for hunger simply because the image of a humanoid Fey hexblade charging about the place and cursing everything he sees in a desperate search for a bacon sandwich almost made me fall over.

Lyndworm
2008-11-07, 10:17 AM
I'll vote for Curiosity. I've had my eye on it all session.

Zack

MattR
2008-11-07, 10:19 AM
Punch-Clock Villainy

Thane of Fife
2008-11-07, 10:23 AM
How about Order? No? Alright then, Hunger.

Athaniar
2008-11-07, 01:46 PM
I'll also go with Curiosity, but not just because everyone else is doing it, but because it fits so well with the growing concept. Which, come to think of it, is probably why everyone else is doing it.

afroakuma
2008-11-07, 03:25 PM
Well, this one's gone off in a completely different direction than what I had been planning. /offrailed

The published villain likely won't see light until tomorrow, as I have company coming tonight.

Juhn
2008-11-07, 04:19 PM
Also, if we're going with Fey, is there any way to vote "Incomprehensible" or "Alien Morality" for motivation? The Fair Folk don't tend to think the way we do.

Of course, if this is not an option I'll have to figure out what is closest to this.