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Random_person
01-13-2010, 04:13 AM
I felt like it, OK?


Unseen Editor
Divination
Level: Wiz/Sor 0, Cleric 0, Bard 0
Components: V
Casting Time: 1 minute
Range: Touch
Target: One written work of no more than 5000 characters per caster level written by the caster
Duration: Instantaneous.
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: Yes (object)

This spell instantly communicates to the caster any and all spelling errors in the work. It also finds ambiguous passages and points them out to the caster.

Special: This spell may not be learned or cast by any means by a wizard residing on a coast of any description.


Minor Levitation
Transmutation
Level: Wiz/Sor 0, Bard 0
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: 1 foot
Target: 1 object weighing one pound or less
Duration: Concentration up to 1 minute
Saving Throw: Will negates (object)
Spell Resistance: Yes (object)

This spell permits the caster to cause the target object to rise or fall. It may move at a speed of 1' vertically for the duration, as directed by the caster.

I'll think of more soon: my brain is like that.

Anonymouswizard
01-13-2010, 04:19 AM
Unseen editors advice should not point out loopholes, especialy if playtesting is required. It's lazy.

Otherwise, rotfl

Random_person
01-13-2010, 04:33 AM
It doesn't. It simply points out ambiguous sections. If you wrote something unambiguously not what you wanted, poor you.

dsmiles
01-13-2010, 05:22 AM
Perhaps unseen editor should have a counterpart that points out the unambiguous sections. You know, just so that the wizards who live on a coast have a new spell to learn too.

Altair_the_Vexed
01-13-2010, 07:40 AM
Minor Levitation
Transmutation
Level: Wiz/Sor 0, Bard 0
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: 1 foot
Target: 1 object weighing one pound or less
Duration: Concentration up to 1 minute
Saving Throw: Will negates (object)
Spell Resistance: Yes (object)

This spell permits the caster to cause the target object to rise or fall. It may move at a speed of 1' vertically for the duration, as directed by the caster.
This isn't as good as the levitation provided by Prestidigitation.

Latronis
01-13-2010, 07:42 AM
If you cast unseen editor on wikipedia does your head explode?

Cheat by first impression seems too strong for a cantrip

Random_person
01-13-2010, 01:38 PM
If you singlehandedly wrote wikipedia, and then cast unseen editor on it, then yes.

Why is Cheat too strong?

Djinn_in_Tonic
01-13-2010, 01:43 PM
Why is Cheat too strong?

Because there's a 1st level spell by the same name with a similar (and weaker) effect on page 46 of the Spell Compendium. Bard/Sorc/Wiz/Greed Domain first level spell.

Latronis
01-13-2010, 06:46 PM
If you singlehandedly wrote wikipedia, and then cast unseen editor on it, then yes.

Why is Cheat too strong?

well that'll learn me not to read the target line.

Manipulating dice rolls to max or min as a free action is pretty damn potent

Siosilvar
01-13-2010, 07:31 PM
well that'll learn me not to read the target line.

Manipulating dice rolls to max or min as a free action is pretty damn potent

Only if your character is playing a dice game.

Atticus Bleak
01-13-2010, 07:52 PM
Only if your character is playing a dice game.

True, but technically our good mixed elemental (I mean you, Djinn) Is correct, Cheat from the Spell Compendium is a 1st level spell that only gives you a chance you to change the outcome of a game of chance.

Latronis
01-13-2010, 08:37 PM
Only if your character is playing a dice game.

Which means whenever the spell is useful it's dictating results. and without components its not even detectable by mundane means

Random_person
01-13-2010, 09:25 PM
Ah. Fair enough then. I'll just delete that post.

JoshuaZ
01-13-2010, 09:54 PM
Unseen Editor should actually probably be level 1 at least. This isn't a balance concern but simply a flavor problem. It has a very complicated set of jobs to do, going through each word, checking it against a pre-existing spelling (which might require complicated decisions based on issues of dialect and such) and ambiguity is a very much a difficult issue. There's actually a fair bit of linguistic and psychological disagreement over what exactly constitutes ambiguity in a sentence.

RS14
01-13-2010, 09:55 PM
Unseen Editor
Divination
Level: Wiz/Sor 0, Cleric 0, Bard 0
Components: V
Casting Time: 1 minute
Range: Touch
Target: One written work of no more than 5000 characters per caster level written by the caster
Duration: Instantaneous.
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: Yes (object)

This spell instantly communicates to the caster any and all spelling errors in the work. It also finds ambiguous passages and points them out to the caster.

Special: This spell may not be learned or cast by any means by a wizard residing on a coast of any description.



I'd like to be able to target things written by someone other than the caster. I can imagine a few more minor uses for it then.

Unseen Editor should actually probably be level 1 at least. This isn't a balance concern but simply a flavor problem. It has a very complicated set of jobs to do, going through each word, checking it against a pre-existing spelling (which might require complicated decisions based on issues of dialect and such) and ambiguity is a very much a difficult issue. There's actually a fair bit of linguistic and psychological disagreement over what exactly constitutes ambiguity in a sentence.

Detecting Poison (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/detectPoison.htm) is likewise nontrivial.

The more important consideration: Nobody will ever bother to learn a Lvl 1 Unseen Editor. They may if it is a cantrip.

Demented
01-13-2010, 10:03 PM
It should point out only the first spelling or grammatical error it finds. That would be suitable for a cantrip. You'd need to cast it a thousand times to accomplish anything of great significance.

Edit: Detect poison requires a DC 20 Wisdom check; it doesn't automatically succeed. It's about as powerful as a skill point. Oh nevermind. That's just the type of poison. <_<

Forevernade
01-13-2010, 10:36 PM
Define Pi
Divination
Level: Wiz/Sor 0
Components: V
Casting Time: 1 minute
Range: Touch
Target: Circle (see text)
Duration: Instantaneous.
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: No

The spell targets any circle, drawn, tabular, or objective, and calculates the decimal places in a spoken voice coming from the circle itself. The number of decimal places equals to ten per caster level. This spell can be combined with bardic music to change the voiced decimals into a spoken song.

Latronis
01-14-2010, 08:38 AM
Define Pi in practice? (http://pi.ytmnd.com/)