Grappling Weapon

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2012-09-13, 10:29 PM
Kelb_Panthera

Grappling Weapon

I'm working on a character build and I need a weapon enhancement that will allow me to engage in and maintain a grapple with a reach weapon.

There's nothing in MIC, and I already have a particular weapon in mind, so I really need a weapon property.

Anybody know of anything like that?

While I'd prefer a weapon property, I might be able to make this work with a feat or PrC feature that allows a character to grapple with a reach weapon. I definitely want to avoid spells though.
2012-09-13, 10:44 PM
Keld Denar

Re: Grappling Weapon

A Mancatcher (A&EG) kinda does that, but it is a base weapon rather than an enhancement. I don't think such an enhancement exists.

Check out the feat Scorpion's Grasp from Sandstorm. That is about the only thing I can think of that allows you to start a grapple with a reach weapon (works best with a Kusiri-gama). If you based some weapon enhancement off of that, I'd say it would be a +1 equiv for 3/day, or a +2 equiv for at-will.

Just my thoughts.
2012-09-13, 11:03 PM
Kelb_Panthera

Re: Grappling Weapon

Scorpion's grasp won't work, but some other feat might. I'll add a request for further feat suggestions into the original post.
2012-09-13, 11:58 PM
rot42

Re: Grappling Weapon

Bear Fang style (Complete Warrior 112), but the prerequisites are a bit horrendous.
2012-09-14, 12:11 AM
ThiagoMartell

Re: Grappling Weapon

I think there is a staff that kuo-toas use that has reach and allows them to start grapples
2012-09-14, 12:33 AM
eggs

Re: Grappling Weapon

Mancatchers are awesome. Bonuses to their attack bonuses translate to grapple bonuses.

Not sure of any weapon enhancements, though.
2012-09-14, 09:48 PM
Kelb_Panthera

Re: Grappling Weapon

I suppose I'd better ask about weapon enhancements that increase reach too, come to think of it.

The idea here is to be grappling with someone not in my space.

The weapon is locked in, but I'm willing to use aptitude weapon cheese if I have to.

Anybody got anything for me?
2012-09-15, 10:08 AM
karkus

Re: Grappling Weapon

I once designed a homebrew Animate Rope whip that allowed me to grapple my enemies from a distance, and even deal energy-based damage, if you were to enchant it further with Shocking Burst powers, as well as its equivalents (Icy Burst, etc.).
2012-09-15, 05:14 PM
theUnearther

Re: Grappling Weapon

Don't druids get some spell that makes a club grapple things? And cannot you base your enhacenment off it?

Also, you keep saying that the weapon choice is locked. Mind if I ask what the choice is?
2012-09-15, 05:15 PM
Daftendirekt

Re: Grappling Weapon

There's the Entangling Staff spell in Spell Compendium.
2012-09-15, 07:01 PM
Uhtred

Re: Grappling Weapon

Make an Entangling Rope as a Spiked Chain?
2012-09-15, 10:26 PM
avr

Re: Grappling Weapon

The Tome of Battle has at least one boost and I think a stance which increases reach.

RAW, corporeal creatures cannot trip or grapple incorporeal creatures but the reverse is not stated to be true. Get ready to dodge flying books if you use that though.
2012-09-16, 12:59 AM
TuggyNE

Re: Grappling Weapon

Quote:

Originally Posted by avr

The Tome of Battle has at least one boost and I think a stance which increases reach.

RAW, corporeal creatures cannot trip or grapple incorporeal creatures but the reverse is not stated to be true. Get ready to dodge flying books if you use that though.

Actually, the reverse is stated to be so, in the subtype description.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRD Incorporeal Subtype

Incorporeal creatures cannot make trip or grapple attacks, nor can they be tripped or grappled. In fact, they cannot take any physical action that would move or manipulate an opponent or its equipment, nor are they subject to such actions.

(emphasis added)