Yeti Runt - single hit die version of Frostburn Yeti
So I want a weaker version of the Yeti, and for campaign specific reasons, I'd rather have LA than extra hit die... Does this look reasonable for the LA?
Scrawny Yeti
• Monstrous Humanoid type
• Cold subtype: grants immunity to cold and vulnerability to fire
• Large
• Speed: 40 ft land, 20 ft climb
• Starting Ability Score Adjustments: +4 Str, +2 Con, -2 Int, +2 Wis.
• Languages: Giant. Bonus Languages: Common, Sylvan, Goblin, Orc
• Snowsight (Ex): A yeti can see in snow as per the snowsight spell.
• +4 on Hide checks in snowy conditions
• +1 natural armor
• 2 claws (1d4 damage each)
• Constrict (claw damage plus 1d6 cold)
• LA: +3
Re: Yeti Runt - single hit die version of Frostburn Yeti
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Ranged Ranger
Does this look reasonable for the LA?
Scrawny Yeti
• LA: +3
That LA looks too high for what you'd get.
Re: Yeti Runt - single hit die version of Frostburn Yeti
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Nifft
That LA looks too high for what you'd get.
How much too high? In order to bring the abilities/features in line with the LA should I
- Increase the hide in snowy conditions to +8?
- Increase the claw attacks to 1d6 each?
- Increase the natural armour to 2 or 3?
- All of the above?
Thanks for the input.
Re: Yeti Runt - single hit die version of Frostburn Yeti
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Ranged Ranger
How much too high? In order to bring the abilities/features in line with the LA should I
- Increase the hide in snowy conditions to +8?
- Increase the claw attacks to 1d6 each?
- Increase the natural armour to 2 or 3?
- All of the above?
Thanks for the input.
•*Reduce the LA to +1
:)
Re: Yeti Runt - single hit die version of Frostburn Yeti
The Frostburn Yeti is stated at ECL 7 (4 Hit Die + LA 3)...
Is it really underpowered for that rating?
If not, if I really wanted to make a Yeti that was at ECL 4 (1 class level + LA 3) how much should I leave on the yeti's stat block?
Re: Yeti Runt - single hit die version of Frostburn Yeti
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Ranged Ranger
The Frostburn Yeti is stated at ECL 7 (4 Hit Die + LA 3)...
Is it really underpowered for that rating?
If not, if I really wanted to make a Yeti that was at ECL 4 (1 class level + LA 3) how much should I leave on the yeti's stat block?
Your version looks somewhere between LA +1 and LA +2; for LA +3... honestly, I might keep everything. LA is a pretty huge tradeoff.
Re: Yeti Runt - single hit die version of Frostburn Yeti
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Grod_The_Giant
Your version looks somewhere between LA +1 and LA +2; for LA +3... honestly, I might keep everything. LA is a pretty huge tradeoff.
Thank you very much... sorry to have to ask for more clarification but keep everything I listed, or everything in the Frostburn Stat block including improved grab?
Re: Yeti Runt - single hit die version of Frostburn Yeti
I think LA+2 is a good spot to aim for. The LA+2 Half Ogre in Races of Destiny is very similar and is reasonable to use in play in many contexts, you might want to take a look at that if you're not sure of a balance point.
Re: Yeti Runt - single hit die version of Frostburn Yeti
So with everything but the HD, I've got:
Yeti Adolescent
• Monstrous Humanoid type
• Cold subtype: grants immunity to cold and vulnerability to fire
• Large
• Speed: 40 ft land, 20 ft climb
• Starting Ability Score Adjustments: +8 Str, +2 Dex, +4 Con, -2 Int, +2 Wis.
• Languages: Giant. Bonus Languages: Common, Sylvan, Goblin, Orc
• Snowsight (Ex): A yeti can see in snow as per the snowsight spell.
• +12 on Hide checks in snowy conditions
• +4 natural armor
• 2 claws (1d6 damage each)
• Constrict (claw damage plus 2d6 cold)
• Improved Grab (Medium or smaller creatures)
• LA: ?(+2/+3)
