Purposefully making the worst build I can in PF1e

Okay, I don't know where I got this idea, but it sounds funny. But, here we go:

Class: Monk, because monks are traditionally bad.
Race: Kobold, for the STR and CON penalty and the Small size. Now, we're going to dump INT so that we can't learn any other languages other than Draconic. Here are our stats:
STR 3 / DEX 9 / CON 5 / INT 7 / WIS 7 / CHA 7
-24 point buy was what we used, but dang Kobold stat increases! Still, we have bad CON, so it's fine.
What we look like:
Level 1:
One skill point (to go towards Perform).
No languages (other than Draconic)
TERRIBLE AC. (10-1-2+1=8)
Barely any movement (from smol)
30 GP to spend on: Temple sword 'cause we aren't proficient with them.

I have now made truly the worst level 1 build in the history of PF 1e. Please, someone, make a better one.

A caster that doesn't have a high enough ability score to cast spells.

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Originally Posted by TheHalfAasimar

I have now made truly the worst level 1 build in the history of PF 1e. Please, someone, make a better one.

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Make them a wizard (object arcane bond), duh. Can't cast spells and even less HP or proficiencies.

A kinny, with... let's see what's the worst element here, Water or Wood probably.

Oozemorph shifter level 1.
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If your Strength score goes down to zero, you're unable to move and perpetually unconscious. It's not hard to go that low with aging penalties.

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Originally Posted by TheHalfAasimar

Okay, I don't know where I got this idea, but it sounds funny. But, here we go:

Class: Monk, because monks are traditionally bad.
Race: Kobold, for the STR and CON penalty and the Small size. Now, we're going to dump INT so that we can't learn any other languages other than Draconic. Here are our stats:
STR 3 / DEX 9 / CON 5 / INT 7 / WIS 7 / CHA 7
-24 point buy was what we used, but dang Kobold stat increases! Still, we have bad CON, so it's fine.
What we look like:
Level 1:
One skill point (to go towards Perform).
No languages (other than Draconic)
TERRIBLE AC. (10-1-2+1=8)
Barely any movement (from smol)
30 GP to spend on: Temple sword 'cause we aren't proficient with them.

I have now made truly the worst level 1 build in the history of PF 1e. Please, someone, make a better one.

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I don't think that you're calculating AC correctly. The Monk text says "the monk adds his Wisdom bonus (if any)" and if we compare that to the text on Longbow, for example, "If you have a penalty for low Strength, apply it to damage rolls when you use a longbow. You can apply your Strength modifier to damage rolls when you use a composite longbow, but not a regular longbow."


If it says "A Monk adds his Wisdom Modifier" then I'd agree that yes, your calculations were fine, but from a straight reading of the text, you only get your wisdom modifier to AC if it's positive.

If you're using a -24 point buy, you might as well allow "I'm going to start with this character having been hit with feeblemind and a couple of curses that they can't afford to pay a cleric to remove"

(and since you only took monk because you thought you'd get -2 AC from wisdom, you'd probably be worse off going commoner)

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Originally Posted by Ignimortis

Make them a wizard (object arcane bond), duh. Can't cast spells and even less HP or proficiencies.

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Oh yeah. Whoops.

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Originally Posted by Kurald Galain

A kinny, with... let's see what's the worst element here, Water or Wood probably.

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Not surprised that Wood is the worst... I didn't consider it, though.

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Originally Posted by Condé

Oozemorph shifter level 1.
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Didn't understand a word of that but it sounded bad.

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Originally Posted by Maat Mons

If your Strength score goes down to zero, you're unable to move and perpetually unconscious. It's not hard to go that low with aging penalties.

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Ooh la la! This sounds fun.

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Originally Posted by Baroncognito

I don't think that you're calculating AC correctly. The Monk text says "the monk adds his Wisdom bonus (if any)" and if we compare that to the text on Longbow, for example, "If you have a penalty for low Strength, apply it to damage rolls when you use a longbow. You can apply your Strength modifier to damage rolls when you use a composite longbow, but not a regular longbow."

If it says "A Monk adds his Wisdom Modifier" then I'd agree that yes, your calculations were fine, but from a straight reading of the text, you only get your wisdom modifier to AC if it's positive.

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I screwed up.

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Originally Posted by Baroncognito

If you're using a -24 point buy, you might as well allow "I'm going to start with this character having been hit with feeblemind and a couple of curses that they can't afford to pay a cleric to remove"

(and since you only took monk because you thought you'd get -2 AC from wisdom, you'd probably be worse off going commoner)

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Ow.


Welp, looks like I did it very badly.

The Oozemorph shifter sounds kind of interesting. I'd give it a try if I were in a party large enough that all the vital roles had already been covered. Basically, at level 1, you kind of become an ooze, and you can turn back to your non-ooze form for one hour per day.

The bad part is, while you're in ooze form, you have no magic item slots and can't use any magic item that needs to be activated, held, or worn. You also can't speak, use armour, or manufactured weapons. You can probably drink potions just fine though.

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Originally Posted by Baroncognito

The Oozemorph shifter sounds kind of interesting. I'd give it a try if I were in a party large enough that all the vital roles had already been covered. Basically, at level 1, you kind of become an ooze, and you can turn back to your non-ooze form for one hour per day.

The bad part is, while you're in ooze form, you have no magic item slots and can't use any magic item that needs to be activated, held, or worn. You also can't speak, use armour, or manufactured weapons. You can probably drink potions just fine though.

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So, is the Oozemorph shifter a prestige class or archetype? Because I look at the Class list on the Archives of Nethys, but I can't see it anywhere.

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Originally Posted by TheHalfAasimar

So, is the Oozemorph shifter a prestige class or archetype? Because I look at the Class list on the Archives of Nethys, but I can't see it anywhere.

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It's an archetype of shifter.

Let's do this with some constraints: what is the worst character you can come up with when you have a 15 point buy and you have to use all the points? meaning 0 points left over.

If you make it to 2nd level, pick a class with a +0 BAB, and keep doing that for each level after that. You’ll end up with no attack bonus but hilariously great saves. You’ll be the character who shows up, is inept, somehow survives, and just continues to fail upwards.

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Originally Posted by vasilidor

Let's do this with some constraints: what is the worst character you can come up with when you have a 15 point buy and you have to use all the points? meaning 0 points left over.

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Invest into WIS and CHA, dump INT and CON, become Wizard, I would presume. Take a race with a negative INT modifier.

Oh, I know a good one. Oracle with the Site-Bound curse is effectively restrained to a single pretty small location, forever. If you want, you can even stick a single level of this onto any other "worst" build to make it even worse.

Vigilante with the Brute archetype, as well as the Antipaladin, are also hilariously detrimental to any party they're in. And then there's the Monk with Vow of Poverty, which is one of the worst deals for your character in the game.

So, let's go with Oracle 1 / Vigilante 1 / Antipally 1 / Oozemorph 1 / Monk 1 / Kinny 15. That's the most restrictions I can think of to tack onto the worst class in the game.