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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
A little D&D/Deegan crossover humor:
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
"Basically, we want to commend you for not getting everyone killed. You really defied expectations there."
"Now come sit by the fire with me, and I shall teach you where half-dragons come from ..."
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
Face Of Evil
"Basically, we want to commend you for not getting everyone killed. You really defied expectations there."
Well, we are talking about Luna here. Not getting everyone killed really does defy expectations.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
Rappy
EDIT: Also, no contest entry here, but I am now tempted to write an ED article on dragons.
Duckons. It's duckons, not dragons.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
Whoracle
Duckons. It's duckons, not dragons.
Well, this thing-that-Mookie-thinks-is-a-dragon can definitely be named Ducon.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
There's already an ED page on dragons.
Also, talking of fowl-based dragons, I always thought Fa from Fire Emblem 6 looked like a giant chicken.
AND SHE'S STILL AWESOME!
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
I know this sounds kinda mean, but this whole metal thing that Mookie's been going through is kinda sad. It's like one of those small town teenagers from the mid 90's who were going around constantly blurting out rap lyrics ("put 'em on a stretcher") and thinking they were gansta despite the fact they live in a nearly all white community.
The only thing that keeps Mookie from doing Brutal Legend knock-off scenes is the whole geek superiority thing he's got going. Which I am thankful for since that rock concert arc was bad enough.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
Frogwarrior
Definitely a fire-breathing chicken. Looks quite overpowered, there's a few related videos of her one-shotting dragons that look like they're twenty time her (dragon shape) mass.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
I know I will see those legs in my nightmares.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
Would a male duck-dragon count as a Drake?
Sorry...sorry...I had to. :smalltongue:
In other news I suppose this is where 'the big secret' is revealed as not being 'trying to get Dom punched in the balls' and not 'trying to get all of the orcs killed'...which is much less amusing.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
St. Salieri
A little D&D/Deegan crossover humor:
Why did I open the spoiler...? WHYYYY!!!!????
*submerges head on bleach morfine*
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
Gez
Definitely a fire-breathing chicken. Looks quite overpowered, there's a few related videos of her one-shotting dragons that look like they're twenty time her (dragon shape) mass.
What, like this? Yeah, one-shotting the final boss (even on a 12% chance) is pretty overpowered, I'll grant. :smalltongue:
Although, of course, in order to get the GOOD ending you have to deal the final blow with Roy. And, she can only attack 50 times in the entire game, ever, no matter what. So not a game-breaker, just a badass fire-breathing chicken. One who is decidedly not, in fact, in a seductive pose OR having scales made out of rocks. (Hmmm, maybe it's like that because it's an Earth Dragon...)
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
Face Of Evil
"Basically, we want to commend you for not getting everyone killed. You really defied expectations there."
Well, it was Luna's attempt to escape Sanctuary's battery compartment which failed completely that caused Stonewater to charge in as a diversion* doing stupid incapacitating attacks with a shield rather than sensibly waiting around for the Doma and Shintula to arrive. So a large proportion of the deaths in the Big Bikta Battle can be attributed to the need to help dig Luna out of the hole she made.
Or if you want to go back to when the arc was young and memes had yet to be made, it was Luna speaking the old words that caused an outrage that need to be paid, rather than the Shintula sticking to their original plan of kicking Bikta butt. The whole war would have be over with less casualties, less murdered refugees and less arc padding if Luna had kept her mouth shut.
So I can see why the ogre-dressed-as-a-dragon is impressed that with Luna involved some of the orcs managed to make it out alive.
* As an aside: Note how the entire Bikta Battle is the diversion. Primary mission: Free Luna. Secondary mission: Free Grench. Bonus objectives: Stop Spirit Father's Murderous Regime (optional), Restore Maltak (optional).
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
Gez
Definitely a fire-breathing chicken. Looks quite overpowered, there's a few related videos of her one-shotting dragons that look like they're twenty time her (dragon shape) mass.
She kind of is supper-effective against dragons, though.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
I can't be the only one who thought of Jabba the Hutt here.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
New Comic
In which we learn that the reign of the tyrannical Dominus and his puppet will end! As long as neither is immortal, and as long as the Dominus is loyal to his puppet, they must eventually die!
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
uncool
New Comic
In which we learn that the reign of the tyrannical Dominus and his puppet will end! As long as neither is immortal, and as long as the Dominus is loyal to his puppet, they must eventually die!
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WTF? I mean, just, WTF?
WHAT ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF ORCS THAT DIED IN YOUR POINTLESS CIVIL WAR!?!
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
If it were anyone else... I wouldn't have laughed. But I did.
Should I feel bad about myself that, after the initial reaction, my first thought was that she and Dominic were going to save a fortune on protection scrolls?
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
Wait a tick, does this mean Outrage Chief preemptively saved us all from potential Dom-Luna spawn when he stabbed her in the torso? He truly was too good for this world.
Edit: they've doubtless created a boatload of orcish orphans, so perhaps they'll take a bit of responsibility for the whole massacre business and adopt.
Edit again: HUKTHAK: do not take if you are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
Heyall,
Wow, this strip did the impossible.
I actually feel a little sorry for Luna. I mean...damn.:smallfrown:
Well, I guess there had to be some consequences for getting stabbed in the torso.
Guess they'll be looking into adoption in the future.
(Of course, if Mookie decides to undo this with a Deus Ex Machina at a later date, all of my sympathy will fly out the window)
If this recent development starts Luna down the path of evil I will take back...maybe half of everything bad I said about this arc and her.
Edit: OTOH, I am glad that we won't have a "pregnant Luna" arc that would have lasted for nine or so months. For that I thank OC.
Edit Edit: It's strange though. I feel like I should be more sympathetic to Luna's predicament. But not only do I dislike the character that much, I'm still pretty sure that this is going to be magically undone or ignored in a few months.
I also find it pretty funny that the Dragon essentially showed up just to say this: "Hey, congratulations on not getting everybody killed. That's more than what we hoped for coming from you. Oh, and you're barren. Seeya."
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
Joro
Wait a tick, does this mean Outrage Chief preemptively saved us all from potential Dom-Luna spawn when he stabbed her in the torso? He truly was too good for this world.
He was trying for more, but even now, he truly is a hero. The greatest orc who ever lived. And his prestige can only increase the prestige of Warlord Mustache. For Warlord Mustache is the one who molded Outrage Chief in his own image. He is the one who taught OC how to mold his outrage, to focus it in a single object, and to strike! - all at once. Because if you notice, after that, the outrage only decreased - OC had spent it all right then, and was only feeling the aftereffects, rather than the actual outrage. Admittedly, there was still the time with Jacob which I still cannot explain, but I think that I'm close.
ETA: It could be that what OC concentrated was not his outrage, but whatever allowed his resistance to the Deegandrug. By infusing it into the tip of the HukThak and then infusing that into Luna, he temporarily made the Deegandrug inside her own body inert - making it unable to heal her as effectively as it should have. All of it was in the tip - the skin, which did not recieve any of it, could easily heal. It was not enough to kill Luna, but it was enough to disrupt her inner functions.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
Ganurath
Should I feel bad about myself that, after the initial reaction, my first thought was that she and Dominic were going to save a fortune on protection scrolls?
That was my third thought. My second was that when Mookie read Ctrl-Alt-Dels miscarriage arc, instead of thinking "WTF?" he must have thought "Oh, I can one-up that!"
My first thought was along the lines of spectralphoenix. It's just so arbitrary and out of the blue. It's as if the knight in shining armour slays the dragon and rescues the princess, but at a terrible cost... he gets leukemia. Sure it's tragic, but there's a big disconnect between the two. And even if there's a justification for it, such as the dragon was radioactive, unless the knight was warned in advance and was prepared to take the risk as a heroic sacrifice it just comes across as random cruelty for the sake of it.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
Um. I don't know if this makes me a monster, but...
Woooo! :smallbiggrin:
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
Heyall,
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Originally Posted by
Trazoi
That was my third thought. My second was that when Mookie read Ctrl-Alt-Dels miscarriage arc, instead of thinking "WTF?" he must have thought "Oh, I can one-up that!"
My first thought was along the lines of spectralphoenix. It's just so arbitrary and out of the blue. It's as if the knight in shining armour slays the dragon and rescues the princess, but at a terrible cost... he gets leukemia. Sure it's tragic, but there's a big disconnect between the two. And even if there's a justification for it, such as the dragon was radioactive, unless the knight was warned in advance and was prepared to take the risk as a heroic sacrifice it just comes across as random cruelty for the sake of it.
It's a textbook Diabolus Ex Machina. Just like how a Deus Ex Machina is a lazy way to magically resolve the plot and give the good guys a victory, the Diabolus variant is an equally lazy way to inject drama and angst to make the good guys pay a price for that victory. A story arc that uses both is...weak. There's no other way to describe it.
Edit: Would it have been better or worse if Dominic and Luna only discovered this later after months of trying to have a kid? At least we would have been spared the Scabby Naked Fat Guy Dragon.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
M84
I also find it pretty funny that the Dragon essentially showed up just to say this: "Hey, congratulations on not getting everybody killed. That's more than what we hoped for coming from you. Oh, and you're barren. Seeya."
Heh, this.
Also, "Bingo. You, however, get to deal with me. Not bad, huh?" is not quite the diction I expect from a dragon. But then, the pose isn't one that should really be associated with dragons either.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
If it actually was OC stabbing her that caused this, I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh. Not only does it make no sense (the magic healed all of her except her girl parts?) but it will also be a direct result of her complete failure to use any kind of diplomacy in the Outrage Cave. Numerous comparisons to Sir Groinpuncher will present themselves, though I'm not sure how to articulate them tastefully.
But seriously, it's just so... random. Leaving aside the fact that lots of people are sterile without "paying a price" we haven't seen anyone so much as mention the possibility of Deegan children so far in the comic.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
God I hate this comic so much.
I take solace in the fact that Luna will not reproduce.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
M84
It's a textbook Diabolus Ex Machina.
Yes, it's a literal Diabolus Ex Machina. "Textbook" suggests something realistic, like the aforementioned knight gets accidentally hit on the way home by a stray arrow fired by a hunter and dies from the infection. But this is literally "out of the machine" - the Powers That Be in the Deeganverse are literally lumping Luna with this as a completely arbitrary cost for being the hero in this arc. I checked the comics where Luna first met the dragon, and he didn't bring up any mention of a cost or sacrifice. It really is just out of the machine.
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Originally Posted by
spectralphoenix
IBut seriously, it's just so... random. Leaving aside the fact that lots of people are sterile without "paying a price" we haven't seen anyone so much as mention the possibility of Deegan children so far in the comic.
My theory is that Mookie has been pestered by fans about the possibility of an arc about raising baby Dominic, and this is his way of shutting them up for good.
Edit: Although the newspost might be at odds with this theory. Ah well. It's still so suspiciously out of the blue.
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Re: Dominic Deegan: Oracle for Hire, MK XXI - Death is not Maltak
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Originally Posted by
M84
Edit: Would it have been better or worse if Dominic and Luna only discovered this later after months of trying to have a kid? At least we would have been spared the Scabby Naked Fat Guy Dragon.
Better. If we had seen Luna and Dominic become attached to the idea of having children, then losing that possibility might seem like a heavy price. As it stands, it was just thrown out there without being related to anything.
That's part of what threw me on this comic. I was expecting it to go along, talk about all the 5th caste orcs that died and how the important ones los their magic, it's going to be a long time until the orc clan(s) are back to full strength, and so on and so on. But instead it randomly announces that Luna's barren, and suddenly it's angst time.
That said, comparing what Mookie actually wrote to what Mookie could theoretically write always favors the latter.