Re: Vote Up A Villain IX! (3.X) [Voting Closed, Villain Complete!]
Did I say I blamed Afro? I generally blame the voting public, and it's not Afro's fault the villain sucks I'm just saying he does. There's only so many places you can go with those options.
Re: Vote Up A Villain IX! (3.X) [Voting Closed, Villain Complete!]
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Originally Posted by
Lord_Gareth
Umm, let's see - he's lame.
Rudeness!
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Scheming magical fish-folk wants to take over a kingdom? Where have I heard of that before? Oh right - The Little Mermaid.
Incorrect; his goal is to restore his grandmother's empire.
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Furthermore, he's of limited utility (I DEFY you to find a DM who's actually run an aquatic campaign)
Incorrect; he's explicitly stated to own an artifact that can turn him human, and he employs alter self to go above the waves for business. Later in the plot, he ends up being exiled using the same artifact he'd used on his sister, and cons the PCs into recovering it in exchange for showing them the way to an ancient trapped magical city.
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and he's, well, a Captain Planet-style villain; generically evil with nothing to distinguish him from thousands of other villains.
Untrue; he's an academic, a historian who seeks the romantic era when the world above was of a different shape and the world below was a vast empire. He doesn't do mass evil, he carefully engineers it, and keeps his sadism for private time. He genuinely cares about his twin sister and his mother. He's also careful with arrogance, shies away from vice, charming and businesslike.
Re: Vote Up A Villain IX! (3.X) [Voting Closed, Villain Complete!]
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Originally Posted by afroakuma
Come on, why the massive hate for Meridius? Just because he was low CR and non-Unique doesn't mean he wasn't cunning, resourceful and complex.
He's actually grown on me quite a bit, possibly to the point of being my favorite of the villains I've read of yours.
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I DEFY you to find a DM who's actually run an aquatic campaign
There are so many ways I want to take the campaign I'm running now, and aquatic would be a great way to do it (unfortunately, Meridius wouldn't work because one of the main points is that everything related to water is horribly evil, in an alien mindset kind of way).
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There's only so many places you can go with those options.
There are a virtually infinite number of ways to take any set of options. That's part of what makes role-playing and world-building so much fun.
Re: Vote Up A Villain IX! (3.X) [Voting Closed, Villain Complete!]
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Originally Posted by
Lord_Gareth
Umm, let's see - he's lame.
I disagree, but there's no accounting for taste.
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Lord_Gareth
Scheming magical fish-folk wants to take over a kingdom? Where have I heard of that before? Oh right - The Little Mermaid.
Your point? Ursula was cool, but she bears little resemblence to the prince. Vaarsuvius has similarities to Raistlin, but so what?
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Lord_Gareth
Furthermore, he's of limited utility (I DEFY you to find a DM who's actually run an aquatic campaign)
My longest-running campaign is a pirate-themed world, which has gone underwater on multiple occasions. They have allies & enemies on both sides of the waves.
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Lord_Gareth
and he's, well, a Captain Planet-style villain; generically evil with nothing to distinguish him from thousands of other villains.
An arguable contention, but again, I disagree. Oh well, you can't please them all.
Your main issue, though, is something that I agree with you about: the voters can be quite sadistic sometimes. I'm amazed that I got a workable changeling out of the last VUAM.