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I need me some of that ointment for this flu...
*rereads comic*
*notices ingredients list*
*laughs maniacally*
*grabs a cleaver and runs out the door*
:smallbiggrin:
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Originally Posted by
Hopeless
He has to agree Roy is keeping his word by protecting Elan though I am wondering how long before Nale actually points out whose actually leading Elan's group of course there is an odd chance he doesn't know... nah!
Nale thinks Elan is the leader.
Panel 3
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Originally Posted by
Joe the Rat
Dwarves swing for the kidneys. Halflings hit below the belt.
The most feared warrior is not a hulking brute with a greataxe, or a swift and deadly swordsman, but a halfling with a mancatcher.
Fixed that for you. :smallwink:
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The funny thing is, Roy most likely isn't lying about his escape plan, given their track record of running away.
I especially appreciate the fact that Roy is oblivious to Tarquin's Ring of True Seeing. After all, how could he know that Tarquin possessed that item? A mark of a poor story teller is when the characters have knowledge that only the reader should possess.
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Tarquin forgot to rescue marlek and qarr. So will the prophecy of
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both durkon's death and bringing "death and destruction" (God of Marlek) to his home.
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The pterodon seems well trained. Is it possible that Tarquin has ranks in ranger, and it's his animal companion?
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Originally Posted by
pendell
I'd never heard of
Keoghtom's ointment before. There's no indication that it's an evil item requiring the heart of a virgin. I suppose that's humor, and perhaps an alternate recipe which Tarquin got from Evil Pharmacy, Inc.
As The Giant pointed out in the very first post, this is Keoghtom's Ointment: Extra Strength, which, unlike normal Keoghtom's Ointment, presumably requires such an ingredient. :smallwink:
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Originally Posted by
t209
Tarquin forgot to rescue marlek and qarr. So will the prophecy of
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both durkon's death and bringing "death and destruction" (God of Marlek) to his home.
Qarr teleported away, and Tarquin just said that they are going back now to get Malak. :smallconfused:
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The wedding-night-virgin-heart isn't an active ingredient though. It's effectively there for flavor. Or maybe it's like menthol. Eeeevil menthol.
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Originally Posted by
McDougal
Can I sig this? This is awesomesauce.
Go for it.
@Calimehter: :smalleek:
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Originally Posted by
Joe the Rat
Go for it.
Thanks! 10charactersFTW!
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Originally Posted by
taragui
There seems to be a typo in panel 9: ‘tissure paper’ for ‘tissue paper’.
I know ‘tissure’ is French for texture, but it doesn't seem right… unless the Giant was making a very indirect stab at the “cheese-eating surrender monkeys” stereotype.
Nope, french for texture is texture :smalltongue: tissure is not a french word *is french* ^^
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oh look who doesnt have a back up axe, looks like Tarquins offensive ability has been reduced quite a bit
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Thinking about it, the whip may actually be more useful. Tarquin hasn't been aiming for pure damage this whole time - he's been fighting defensively, and many of his attacks at the top of the pyramid were aimed at controlling his enemies, rather than wounding them. Even if it deals far less straight-up damage, the whip lets Tarquin make trip and disarm attacks more easily, which I fully expect to see exploited in an upcoming strip. :smallsmile:
That said, I can't imagine it'll do him any favors when if/when he runs into Xykon.
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Originally Posted by
EvilAvocado
I need me some of that ointment for this flu...
*rereads comic*
*notices ingredients list*
*laughs maniacally*
*grabs a cleaver and runs out the door*
:smallbiggrin:
I wish there was a "like" button on this board. EvilAvocado, you've made my day :).
Respectfully,
Brian P.
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Originally Posted by
Emperordaniel
Qarr teleported away, and Tarquin just said that they are going back now to get Malak. :smallconfused:
True, but just because Tarquin said it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen. We know that Malack is actively looking for a path around the door, as he doesn't yet know that the rest of the Guild has retreated. Maybe Malack will find a way around the door, and meet up with the Order before Tarquin can catch back up with him. The rest of t209's point is... highly speculative, but maybe going back and getting Malack won't be as easy as Tarquin thinks it will be.
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Originally Posted by
Chess Tyrant
Thinking about it, the whip may actually be more useful. Tarquin hasn't been aiming for pure damage this whole time - he's been fighting defensively, and many of his attacks at the top of the pyramid were aimed at controlling his enemies, rather than wounding them. Even if it deals far less straight-up damage, the whip lets Tarquin make trip and disarm attacks more easily, which I fully expect to see exploited in an upcoming strip. :smallsmile:
That said, I can't imagine it'll do him any favors when if/when he runs into Xykon.
Malack said that Tarquin was just messing with him so that probably wasnt his actual fighting style and was jsut being super defensive to see them fight
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Originally Posted by
t209
Tarquin forgot to rescue marlek and qarr.
Nope, he trusted Malek to "head back to the room with the corpses."
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Originally Posted by
t209
Tarquin forgot to rescue marlek and qarr.
Nope, he trusted Malek to "head back to the room with the corpses."
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So the argument over why Elan wasn't involved in the fight is not so much ended as transferred from the forum to the strip.
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Originally Posted by
pendell
I'd never heard of
Keoghtom's ointment before. There's no indication that it's an evil item requiring the heart of a virgin. I suppose that's humor, and perhaps an alternate recipe which Tarquin got from Evil Pharmacy, Inc.
There's sort of a theme going here. In Tarquin's view, you can't make Keoghtom's Ointment without the heart of a virgin collected on his/her wedding night, for the same reason that you can't make a Ring of Regeneration without torturing somebody to death to give it magic, and you can't make an omelette without ruthlessly crushing dozens of eggs beneath your steel boot and then publicly disemboweling the chickens that laid them as a warning to others.
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Originally Posted by
Forikroder
oh look who doesnt have a back up axe, looks like Tarquins offensive ability has been reduced quite a bit
I don't think so. Unless Tarquin's from some obscure fighting class and not Fighter, he still has a BAB of at least +17, i.e. Not Very ReducedTM. Even if that axe was +5, losing it does not really affect how well he can go on the offensive. Granted, whips only deal nonlethal damage, but that works out for him alright anyways, since he had promised not to kill Durkon (and doesn't want to kill Elan either), and the weapon has a 15-foot range - three times as far as Roy, Durkon, Belkar, or Elan can reach. Plus, there's always the +2 bonus a whip grants to Disarming your opponent, which is pretty nifty.
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Originally Posted by
Emperordaniel
I don't think so. Unless Tarquin's from some obscure fighting class and not Fighter, he still has a BAB of at least +17, i.e. Not Very ReducedTM. Even if that axe was +5, losing it does not really affect how well he can go on the offensive. Granted, whips only deal nonlethal damage, but that works out for him alright anyways, since he had promised not to kill Durkon (and doesn't want to kill Elan either), and the weapon has a 15-foot range - three times as far as Roy, Durkon, Belkar, or Elan can reach. Plus, there's always the +2 bonus a whip grants to Disarming your opponent, which is pretty nifty.
none of which has anything to do with Tarquins offensive ability
your also forgetting all the feats he has to increase his damage with a 2 handed axe that he almost certainly doesnt ahve with his whip
Tarquin essentially has no offensive ability now although his defensive ability has increased
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I dislike the fact Tarquin has gotten to the point of getting involved in pointless monologues about his axe and drow sign language, just to make it clear things dont always go his way because a bunch of people are unable to accept he's just extra prepared. The spoiler in Giant's first comment is probably only there so people wont go "HURR THAT OINTMENT DOESNT DO THAT DEM RAWRRRR".
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Originally Posted by
Emperordaniel
Hey, in the first panel you can see Girard's Pyramid in the background. Nice touch. :smallbiggrin:
I am, and I've now got this image in my head of Tarquin swinging the whip around Indiana Jones-style... :smalltongue:
It will hopefully keep people from arguing if they can get back quick enough to be in anyway effective.
Well, we have had Star Wars with this group -- Indiana Jones has at least continuity of a shared leading actor... Makes sense, though. They went from the Evil Empire to hunting for an artifact in the middle of a desert. :smallwink:
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Originally Posted by
Chantelune
Nice strip. Happy drow is surpising and a bit creepy. So he can feel happyness, even in such a fleeting manner ?
And loved the "make it believable" line answering the "but then we won". Priceless. XD
Agree on the Drow. Weird boarding on creepy. It shows we have not seen him genuinely happy in all the strips he has been in so far. The strip was written such that the ointment was needed to get rid of deafness, but it is possible that the return was slow (less than total) or if there was some lingering impairment i.e. I know if I am exposed to silence for an extended period, I have to process what I hear over very loud tinnitus. Or it could be that he (Z) prefers good ol' dad (T) to his son (N) and just appreciated helps from some he (Z)... respects? We really don't know what Z thinks of T, though. Eh, I am not sure if the source of the smile matters (and it doesn't until it does... :smalltongue:).
Elan.... Poor E. It seems he has trouble believing that The Order is actually learning from their experiences... (Or he has been reading the Forums.) I really like that they are winning against a competent and cleaver opponent. It is setting up the idea that they are more than semi-competent and that a real win against Team Evil is possible. Victory over a competent Linear Guild has much more meaning then the typical LG.
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theinsulabot
...Ceiling Belkar...
Can't...stop...giggling... Wish I had Photoshop on this computer... :smallbiggrin:
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Originally Posted by
Ron Miel
...Not just problematic, it's also not necessary. Virgin's heart is an inactive ingredient. It can be left out altogether.
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Originally Posted by
Joe the Rat
The wedding-night-virgin-heart isn't an active ingredient though. It's effectively there for flavor. Or maybe it's like menthol. Eeeevil menthol....
Or it is a stabilizing component. Maybe it is only needed for the Extra Strength version. Something has to hold on to that 71% magic after all. Might be the usual stabilizer doesn't cut it.... Hey, you never know... :smallwink:
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Originally Posted by
Commander672
Ok, now they're literally dragging kilkil around behind them. I'm SURE he's destined for something. Mentioned it once, calling it now: Kilkil kills Belkar.
Ooooh, that would be hilarious! It's always the ones you least suspect (or a bunch of meddling kids...) so why not? A lucky shot might do it. We shall see...
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Originally Posted by
Zubzub
I dislike the fact Tarquin has gotten to the point of getting involved in pointless monologues about his axe and drow sign language, just to make it clear things dont always go his way because a bunch of people are unable to accept he's just extra prepared. The spoiler in Giant's first comment is probably only there so people wont go "HURR THAT OINTMENT DOESNT DO THAT DEM RAWRRRR".
Eh, it is a personality type. He is very theatrical, we have seen it in everything from his preferred lighting system to his color coordinated cape. I find it amusing, but then I am good at tuning out people who like to expound ad nasum in real life anyway, and T seems like the type to hear himself talk. Yes, it does have the added benefit of informing the readers of info. And we know that the characters are aware that they are being watched by an audience as evidenced by breaking the 4th wall thought the strip. Maybe he is deliberately expounding to his reading audience. No matter the rational, I still don’t mind it.
I also am not sure I would agree with extra-prepared. Based on how my old DMs ran games, I would call him prepared enough. We tended to accumulate knowledge that translated into a number of precautionary details like T does... I look at it as just learning from prior experience. (Yikes, I hope this does not restart the arguments on T. Oh well. I am not a huge fan of evil dude, but I appreciate his precautions.)
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Keoghtom's ointment has been around since 1E DMG (see pg. 149). This is probably why Tarquin knows of it; he's old. I believe Rich deliberately spelled it "Keoghtum" to make it sound more medicinal.
Keoghtom himself was a mage in the Greyhawk setting, originally played by Tom Keogh. I believe at one point he became a quasi-deity.
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Originally Posted by
pendell
I wish there was a "like" button on this board. EvilAvocado, you've made my day :).
Respectfully,
Brian P.
My PLEASURE!
Soooo using this in my signature :P
Seriously though, where has my cleaver gone to...
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Best part: "Magic 71%" :smallbiggrin:
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Originally Posted by
Zubzub
The spoiler in Giant's first comment is probably only there so people wont go "HURR THAT OINTMENT DOESNT DO THAT DEM RAWRRRR".
The Giant said so.
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"Dat axe...!"
I think it says a lot about what a loot whore I am that the only thing I could pay attention to in the whole strip was "Sweet, free high-powered axe!"
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Originally Posted by
Forikroder
none of which has anything to do with Tarquins offensive ability
your also forgetting all the feats he has to increase his damage with a 2 handed axe that he almost certainly doesnt ahve with his whip
Tarquin essentially has no offensive ability now although his defensive ability has increased
And where, pray tell, is the proof that he has those "offensive" feats? As far as we know, Tarquin's entire build is centered around defensive combat - NOT offensive.
Just look at, say, every fight Tarquin has been shown participating in to see his defensive build in action.
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The inactive ingredient list for Keoghtom's ointment EXTRA STRENGTH is probably the best argument in favor of pre-marital coitus in the D&D multiverse that I have ever seen.
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Originally Posted by
Emperordaniel
And where, pray tell, is the proof that he has those "offensive" feats? As far as we know, Tarquin's entire build is centered around defensive combat - NOT offensive.
Just look at, say, every fight Tarquin has been shown participating in to see his defensive build in action.
just lookat, say, Malack telling Tarquin to stop messing around and fight seriously
besides even assuming that that is tarquins main fighting style it still doesnt change that without his axe hes completely reliant on the rest of his party to do the damage, with only a whip we wont take someone down in a million years
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Originally Posted by
Emperordaniel
And where, pray tell, is the proof that he has those "offensive" feats? As far as we know, Tarquin's entire build is centered around defensive combat - NOT offensive.
Just look at, say, every fight Tarquin has been shown participating in to see his defensive build in action.
It wouldn't preclude him having some offensive feats folded in - he has been fighting defensively by choice (first encounter), or at a friend's request (vs. Durkon). That said, he does show strong defensive (and almost Monk-ish) abilities. Given his ridiculous preparedness, if he was heavily loaded on offensive axe-fighting, he'd probably have a magical way to retrieve his favorite axe, or an easily accessible backup, or an Amulet of Transmute Puppies and Kittens into Greataxes or something.
The whip thing does fit with the whole film allusion thing. Apparently, he thinks he's Harrison Ford. Which makes Nale (and possibly Elan) Shia Labeouf. Take that as you like.
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Originally Posted by
The Giant
New comic is up.
And before anyone says anything:
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Yes, I know Keoghtum's Ointment doesn't normally remove deafness. That's why this is Extra Strength. :smalltongue:
But if it is Extra Strength - surely it must cure E.D. :smallbiggrin: ... so I'm sad it wasn't in the list. :smallfrown:
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Originally Posted by
Crisis21
The inactive ingredient list for Keoghtom's ointment EXTRA STRENGTH is probably the best argument in favor of pre-marital coitus in the D&D multiverse that I have ever seen.
"Mysterious circumstances" indeed!
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Originally Posted by
Forikroder
oh look who doesnt have a back up axe, looks like Tarquins offensive ability has been reduced quite a bit
Yea, until he uses that whip to snatch/retrieve the axe (Hollywood style) from whoever is wielding it when they next meet...
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Originally Posted by
SteveDJ
Yea, until he uses that whip to snatch/retrieve the axe (Hollywood style) from whoever is wielding it when they next meet...
assuming they dont jsut sunder it or toss it into a bag of holding or something
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I have to admit, i don't get the joke in the title. Obviously, everyone is looking to regroup - but what's the joke?
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Originally Posted by
AutomatedTeller
I have to admit, i don't get the joke in the title. Obviously, everyone is looking to regroup - but what's the joke?
looking for group is a popular webcomic
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Originally Posted by
AutomatedTeller
I have to admit, i don't get the joke in the title. Obviously, everyone is looking to regroup - but what's the joke?
Well, I'm not really sure how it's funny, either. It's a reference to the video game message "looking for group" (LFG) but I don't see how that's supposed to elicit a laugh, myself.
Mind you, I enjoy the strip, but I'm not sure why the title is supposed to be funny (or even if it is supposed to be).
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Too bad an illusion would've done jack squat, considering Tarquin's nifty ring.
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Originally Posted by
Musta Nuoli
I sure could have used some Keoghtum's Ointment a week ago, I had a terrible flu. It probably would have helped also to some long-term medical conditions. Hey, if it cures cancer, it can probably deal with a migraine and asthma.
Now all we need to do is to mass-produce the ointment. Of course, getting the hearts of the virgins (taken on their wedding night) might be slightly problematic. Maybe we could replace it with Virgin Oil taken from some chef's kitchen?
Mind you, the virgin hearts were among the inactive ingredients. They're not essential for the effect (but perhaps for the flavor...).
I'm sure they could be replaced with the more... well-used variety... :smallwink:
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Originally Posted by
Edhelras
2nd EDIT: And now I found out about Keoghtum too: "
And Keoghtom is a quasi-deity of Oerth, detailed in the 1983 World of Greyhawk set and featuring in Gary Gygax's Gord novels as Lord Keogh." (from
Candlekeep forum).
That's why the ointment is also known as Keogh medicine.
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I don't know why, but something about Tar. patting Zz' with the ointment makes me go, "awww, cute!"
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Originally Posted by
AgentofOdd
There's something about smiling Zz'dtri that so gosh darn adorable.
I agree. That was probably the first thing that really caught my eye in this comic and I thought it was rather endearing as well.
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Love how Tarquin is still convinced Elan is very powerful and an asset to his team.
Father's pride, I guess. :smallbiggrin:
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Oh look, Tarquin having just the right tools to solve everything. Yawn.
Oh, and I think Tarquin meant "tissue paper".
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Originally Posted by
Joe the Rat
The whip thing does fit with the whole film allusion thing. Apparently, he thinks he's Harrison Ford.
Except that the Star Wars references were pretty explicit - an evil masked warlord serving an emperor/empress, having fathered twin children separated at birth, leading to the great reveal, "I am your father, Elan."
That ain't Han.
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Originally Posted by
Mantine
Oh look, Tarquin having just the right tools to solve everything. Yawn.
Oh, and I think Tarquin meant "tissue paper".
I feel the same way generally but a fighter carrying some sort of healing potion and a back up weapon is hardly deus ex machina.
At least Rich had him leave it with the dino instead of on his persons where he would have just used the whip to grab his axe.
Hopefully Tarq will die alone, forgotten and in an anti-climatic fashion. An off screen death, maybe getting stuck in a trap then forgotten for 20 strips, only to have it pan back to his skeleton, would be perfectly poetic and just.
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This comic made me feel a bit young and/or not as into the hobby as I had thought. I started D&D with Baldur's Gate and only got into the paper version with 3.0, and I had never heard the term Keoghtum before.
Interesting comic otherwise. Elan's reaction at the end reflected my own surprise. Of course, dramatically, this probably means that the Order will suffer a major reversal of some kind. Or maybe they'll have to team up with Tarquin to protect themselves from Xykon. It would be hilarious if Tarquin died a heroe's death saving both his children after all his speeches about how he wants to be the villain and enjoy his life until his own son overthrows him in climactic fashion.
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Elan seems particularly perceptive in this one.
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Originally Posted by
Calintares
This is the first time Tarquin has acknowleged alignments, and he also refered to a group he is part of as "evil."
That's interesting... is it just fluff in his usual wordy, sarcastic repartee, or is he signaling that even if alignment doesn't "exist" in an absolute sense, it's still a rhetorical tool to bind people together / manipulate people who believe in it...
#gradschool
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Originally Posted by
AutomatedTeller
I have to admit, i don't get the joke in the title. Obviously, everyone is looking to regroup - but what's the joke?
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Well, I'm not really sure how it's funny, either. It's a reference to the video game message "looking for group" (LFG) but I don't see how that's supposed to elicit a laugh, myself.
Mind you, I enjoy the strip, but I'm not sure why the title is supposed to be funny (or even if it is supposed to be).
http://lfgcomic.com/page/1
It's a shout out to another webcomic. Comic artists do that from time to time.
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Originally Posted by
Edhelras
Huh. I just yesterday got my hands on the sourcebook
Dungeonscape, which Rich co-authored, where I read a list of dungeon item packages, which included this "Keoghtum's ointment". But I could not discover where it was from. Couldn't find it in the DMG. Does anyone know? Strange to see it resurface here...
EDIT: Actually, now I discovered that this is the same as
Restorative Ointment, just with a cooler name...\\
Keoghtum's ointment is the canon name. The SRD can't use "product identity", you see, which means that monsters like Beholders are omitted from its list and it can't use the names of specific D&D characters in the descriptions of spells or items. So Keoghtum's ointment becomes a more generic Restorative ointment, and we get artifacts like "The Saint's Mace", and the spell names are bereft of references to Tenser or Bigby. This occasionally causes confusion between people that use the SRD almost exclusively and those that don't.
That ointment is handy to have, although not very cost effective at all. You're much better off loading up on a much larger number of scrolls and potions for the same price. Still, having several healing options in one package that even the fighter can use to help his companions is alluring to some, and in low-magic campaigns, it means you can make a healing item with just Craft Wondrous Item and not have to worry about wands or scrolls or potions.
I guess that another way that the ointment is genuinely superior to potions of equivalent effect is that it doesn't necessarily require your character to do anything to receive the effect. You could command your hireling or your Unseen Servant to smear the stuff on you while you spent your own action casting a spell, rather then wasting a Standard Action on swigging some potion just to mitigate the enemies debuff.
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Originally Posted by
AgentofOdd
There's something about smiling Zz'dtri that so gosh darn adorable.
Agreed. It also illustrates how Tarquin has managed to keep his group going for so long.
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Originally Posted by
Crisis21
The inactive ingredient list for Keoghtom's ointment EXTRA STRENGTH is probably the best argument in favor of pre-marital coitus in the D&D multiverse that I have ever seen.
That strategy won't help if you're trying to avoid being sacrificed to an orc god.
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Thanks for the explanations on the title. I had not heard of that one.
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I also like how disappointed Tarquin was at Nale. He really was testing him, and Nale fell short.
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Originally Posted by
Jaffo
I love it when these get meta. Seriously, when's the last time a group of good guys just did a great job and WON a fight?
My friends roll their eyes at me when I treat this comic like literature, but I love it when Giant screws around with narrative conventions.
This is the same reason people love Joss Whedon - defying convention in ways that make the story better.
+10!
:smallbiggrin:
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Oh, and btw... Tarquin has started giving orders to his "idiot son".
And Nale is too shaken (and alone) to protest (for now).
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Mostly a filler/exposition strip. That's the frustrating thing about this format - it's like reading a book that's released one page at a time. Hopefully things will start progressing soon (i.e.: movement forward in the V arc, something of interest happening with Malack, and Xykon and Redcloack and the MitD showing up). The whole battle was interesting in showing how the Order has improved, but it hasn't actually moved the plot forward at all.
Tarquin is once again prepared for everything. I'm okay with that provided that he is defeated by the end of this book and actually makes one or more visible and clear mistakes.
EDIT: Oh, and between the ancient pyramid and the whip, I'm expecting at least one Indiana Jones reference before this arc ends.
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Originally Posted by
Surfing HalfOrc
I think I know who is going to end up with Tarquin's Axe!
Yeah, for some reason I can't shake the feeling that
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Thog is going to still be alive and return for revenge on nale's daddy
No idea why though, maybe I'm just wishing for it.
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Originally Posted by
Edhelras
Huh. I just yesterday got my hands on the sourcebook
Dungeonscape, which Rich co-authored, where I read a list of dungeon item packages, which included this "Keoghtum's ointment". But I could not discover where it was from. Couldn't find it in the DMG. Does anyone know? Strange to see it resurface here...
EDIT: Actually, now I discovered that this is the same as
Restorative Ointment, just with a cooler name...
2nd EDIT: And now I found out about Keoghtum too: "
And Keoghtom is a quasi-deity of Oerth, detailed in the 1983 World of Greyhawk set and featuring in Gary Gygax's Gord novels as Lord Keogh." (from
Candlekeep forum).
3rd EDIT: So, I guess this might be called the second time (that I discovered) where Rich draws on his sourcebook, then, the other being the
acidborn shark.
But now that I actually own a copy of the Dungeonscape book, I'll certainly look more closelier to see other instances where it's referenced in the OOTS!
Keoghtum's ointment is a very classic D&D item. The Restorative Ointment is due to the SRD purging classic D&D names and replacing them with generic names.
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warmachine
There's one major flaw with Roy's plan, which was Durkon was surrounded by the enemy, included a really good fighter. How would Durkon escape?
Thor's Might! Divine Power! ... how does the enemy fighters escape?