wait, I know who the most important character in Homestuck is. It's the person that started the kickstarter to make the sburb beta that John and the others play.
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wait, I know who the most important character in Homestuck is. It's the person that started the kickstarter to make the sburb beta that John and the others play.
Okay, so now we have ANOTHER set of trolls for me to keep track of. Someone help me straighten this out in my head. For convenience, I'm just going to use their dominant trait as description, since I'll never be able to keep the names straight.
Prescratch->Ancestor->Troll
??->Disciple of Sufferer->Robot (blown up)
??->??->disabled wimp
??->starship pilot->Hacker
Snob->Sufferer->Yells a lot
??->??->Catgirl shipper
Feminist->??->Sewer/Vampire
Rad Girl->Police->Blind Chessmaster
??->Pirate->Gamer
??->??->Elitist Strong Dom/Sub
??->Executioner->Druggie
??->??->Nihlist Magician
Rebel Princess->Empress->Child Queen
Also, which of these are dead, alive only in a dreambubble, or actually still alive?
The Beforus trolls (pre-Scratch versions of the troll kids) all exist within the dreambubbles- Meenah nuked them all as a means of ducking their Scratch. The Ancestor trolls did not, AFAIK, play the game, and should all be properly dead, although I wouldn't guarantee some version of them won't show up in a dreambubble (it just won't be *them*, more likely one of the trolls' idealized memory/imagination of them.) The current trolls I'd have to go check on and see who is alive and who is dreambubble only.
So, we've seen the alternia kid trolls, seen hints of the alternia ancestor trolls, and been introduced to the Beforus kid trolls (who are alt versions of the alternia ancestor trolls). I wonder if we'll see anything about the Beforus ancestor trolls (who are alt versions of the alternia kid trolls)?
You've made a couple of errors. Here's the connection list, and I'm including zodiac sign to help you a bit. ;)
(Beforan Troll) ---> (Alternian Ancestor) ---> (Alternian Troll)
ARIES: ?? ---> The Handmaiden of Lord English ---> Robot / Revived Maid [Alive]
TAURUS: ?? ---> The Summoner ---> Disabled Kid {Currently a ghost}
GEMINI: ?? ---> starship pilot --->Hacker {Currently half-dead}
CANCER: Snob ---> Sufferer ---> Shouty {Totally Alive}
LEO: ?? ---> The Sufferer's Disciple ---> Catgirl shipper {Probably Permadead}
VIRGO: Feminist ---> The Sufferer's Caretaker ---> Vampire {Alive}
LIBRA: Rad Girl ---> Police --->Blind Chessmaster {Alive}
SCORPIO: Miss Talksalot ---> Pirate ---> Thief {Currently a ghost}
SAGITTARIUS ?? ---> Executioner --- Elitist Strong Dom/Sub {Permadead}
CAPRICORN: ?? ---> Grand Highblood ---> Druggie/Psycopath {Chilling on Jane's session}
AQUARIUS: ?? ---> Naval Captain ---> Nihlist Magician {Very Dead}
PISCES: Rebel Princess ---> Empress ---> Child Queen {Totally Dead}
All of the Beforan trolls are dead, but their ghosts seem to be chilling out in dream bubbles. All of the ancestors are dead except for the Empress, and their ghosts seem to have departed. Of the current trolls, four seem to be in the current dreambubble (Karkat, Terezi, Kanaya, and Aradia), one is in the new kids' session (Gamzee), one is MIA (Sollux), two are ghosts hanging out together (Vriska and Tavros), and the other four seem to be permadead.
Equius is quite possibly permadead, and if he died, there's an excellent chance Nepeta went with him.
Also, Is it clear whether or not ancestors even get ghosts?
I'd also note that Aradia isn't on the meteor like Karkat, Terezi, and Kanaya, instead staying at the green sun with half dead Sollux or what ever his deal was.
Also, the best status I think we can confidently give Gamzee is AWOL, given he now as Aradia's time-boxes, or whatever you call her time-travel music boxes. He could still be hiding on the asteroid and then travel back in time once it reaches the post-scratch human session, or he could have gotten there himself.
Filling in a little more:
Let me see what I can fill in. I'll go the reverse order, because we know the most about the current trolls and the least about the pre-scratch ones.
Karkat - Self-loathing egotist who yells at everyone and everything.
Status: Alive (And shouting)
Sufferer - Mutant rebel who dies dreaming of trolls not divided by blood.
Status: Dead (Executed by Darkleer)
Kantri - Extremely verbose lecturer whose opinions are lengthy and absolute.
Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah), Active (and talkative) in the bubble
Sollux - Bipolar hacker with high-grade psionics and an obsession with duality.
Status: Dead (Twice due to overexertion) Active as a ghost with Aradia
Psiionic - Psion capable of flying a warship at otherwise impossible speeds.
Status: Dead (Due to overexertion at Condesce's orders)
Mituna - Unseen
Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Tavros - Timid but good natured, disabled, always dreamed of flying.
Status: Dead (Killed by Vriska)
Summoner - Rebel and powerful master of beasts. Hair resembles Rufio's.
Status: Dead (Presumably killed by Highblood)
??? - Unseen
Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Vriska - Hypocritical, self-centered, sociopathic meddler.
Status: Dead (Killed by Terezi) (Confirmed God Tier)
Mindfang - Competitive and somewhat hedonistic pirate.
Status: Dead (Presumably killed by Summoner)
Aranea - Kind-hearted, self-centered, meddling dreamer.
Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah) (Confirmed God Tier)
Aradia - Went from ghost to frog-sprite to robot to god tier maid of time
Status: AWOL, Alive (Was killed by Vriska) (Confirmed God Tier)
Handmaid - Doc Scratch's ward and Lord English's second right hand.
Status: Alive and Dead (Time Traveller, Killed by Condesce)
Damara - Unseen
Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Feferi - Sweet but largely ineffective and unimportant princess.
Status: Dead (Killed by Eridan)
Condesce - Evil empress and Lord English's third right hand.
Status: Alive (Working for English)
Meenah - Blood-thirsty, money-grubbing little rebel princess. Killed her entire team.
Status: Dead (Suicide) (Confirmed God Tier)
Eridan - Caste-focused troll with a violent nature and unpleasant personality.
Status: Dead (Killed by Kanaya)
Dualscar - Jealous pirate with several failed red romances.
Status: Dead (Possibly killed by Highblood)
??? - Unseen
Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Equius - Caste-focused machinist with a role-reversal kink.
Status: Dead (Executed by Gamzee)
Darkleer - Loyal executioner to the Highblood, could bring himself to kill Disciple
Status: Dead (Presumably)
??? - Unseen
Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Kanaya - Very proper, very helpful, supportive friend. Rainbow drinker (vampire).
Status: Alive (As avampireRainbow Drinker)
Dolorosa - Caretaker of Sufferer, Slave/lover to Mindfang, killed by Dualscar.
Status: Dead (Killed by Dualscar)
Porrim - Feminist, tattooed rainbow drinker
Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah), Active in the bubble.
Nepeta - Cute cave-dwelling girl with a fondness for shipping and hunting.
Status: Dead (Killed by Gamzee)
Disciple - The Sufferer's beloved, spared from execution by Darkleer and lived in caves after.
Status: Dead (Presumably)
Meulin - Unseen
Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Terezi - Master manipulator with an interest in "justice". Blinded by Vriska.
Status: Alive
Redglare - Lawtroll who managed to bring Mindfang to justice. It didn't turn out the way she expected.
Status: Dead (Killed by Mindfang after bringing her to justice)
Latula - Gamer girl who overstates her "rad"ness. Unable to smell.
Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah), Hanging in the bubble.
Gamzee - Unstable killing machine only pacified with intoxicating sopor slime.
Status: AWOL (ConfirmedCodGod Tier)
Highblood - Insane killing machine and leader of the land trolls
Status: Dead (Presumably)
??? - Unseen
Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Equius (Strong guy) definitely got lazored, along with all of the troll alternates who died in their runthrough of the game. It is currently presumed that Nepeta (cat girl), Feferi (young queen) and Eridan (murder-boy) were in that dream bubble as well, but that hasn't technically been proven.
While that's true, she seems to have entered the dream bubble from the other side, since she was chatting with Meenah in the latest flash. So she's not on the meteor, but she's physically in the bubble the meteor is passing through.
note: its perfectly possible that there could've been a doomed Equius and Nepeta who died at around the same time on the meteor in a different manner, thus being technically very similar to the real ones- like Equius actually defeating Gamzee, but got killed by Bec Noir because of Vriska's pixie dust trail. and of course, got missed by Lord English entirely.
or heck, just a doomed timeline where almost all trolls survived and somehow got out of their doomed timeline alive anyways through some shenanigans. I wouldn't be surprised if that was possible. given the nature of Paradox Space, it might even happen a lot.
On the subject of which trolls being where, we might see Vriska and Tavros joining up with some others...
Just so everyone knows Hussie decided to do reguler intermission updates between the animated ones, speaking of wich there is a new update up.
I just realized that the Condesce might actually like to bake even before she became the Batterwitch. I found that hilarious.
….Ok seriously, how long are we going to keep zooming in here?
I mean yes we know already, zoom zoom zoom….
….Hussie is just procrastinating with all the zooming, isn't he? I mean seriously, how much zoom do you really need here?
Evidently there is a "sburb" download going around on tumblr. Most likely a virus, but it IS getting close to december 21st...
well lets look at it this way:
in all probability, its just a virus, the simplest explanation is the most likely.
if it was in fact, the real sburb, then you were either meant to have it, which means you'll eventually get it anyways no matter what you do…or you were never meant to have it, so you don't have to worry anyways, because meteors will soon start falling and wipe us all out, so you might as well sing "So long and thanks for all the fish" while you wait for earth to be destroyed. besides its highly unlikely that any of us would be the players.
so two highly likely possibilities where you don't have to worry about anything! either because nothing will happen, or you will be one of the many dead.
the third possibility- that you are indeed a player- is the horrifying one. you have to live with being one of the last humans alive, entering the game and therefore dooming all of earth because you were always meant to do so and having to go through a game session of harsh trials based around making you grow as a human being, assuming that this isn't one of the vast majority of Null sessions where all your efforts are for nought because things got derailed by some minor detail you didn't notice.
so don't worry. in all likelihood, we have nothing to worry about. :smalltongue:
Yeahh. As awsome as playing Sburb would be, i'm in my twenties, and i'm pretty sure the game only targets teenagers.
A most shocking development, lol :smallbiggrin:
Wow. Didn't see that coming.
ALL HANDS ON DECK, ALL HANDS ON DECK, THIS IS NOT A DRILL, REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
So, the question is, what brought this on?
SpoilerIs john getting character development of which moving on is symbolic? Has he finally come to his senses about Con Air after watching it for fifty times in the last week? Both of the above? Neither?
Until this moment, John had never seen Con Air all the way through. Every previous time he had seen it he had either fallen asleep, or gotten distracted, or simply run out of time and put it way, determined to finish it later. The few times he actually sat through the movie, he had been too busy saying how awesome it was to actually pay attention.
John Loved Con Air, but he had never really watched it.
Until Now.