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Re: LGBTAitp 27: Of Shoes, and Ships, and Sealing Wax
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Asta Kask
"It might be easy to write Ted Haggard off as a joke, but now that he agrees with us, let's listen to what he has to say."
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Asta Kask
You must have changed... in the 19th century, Irishmen couldn't be seconds to duellants because part of the second's job was to negotiate a peaceful solution. The Irish were known for their bloodthirstyness and could not be trusted to really strive for a peaceful way out.
What the hell are you talking about..........I'LL BEAT YOU TO A BLOODY PULP!!!! :smallfurious:
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~Matthew~
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Well I certainly think we should make the journey to the Light Side as easy as possible.
This is an enormous step and I must say that my respect for the man increased considerably. From a non-existent level, true, but still... I'm sure he'll be very pleased with that.
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Kindablue
"It might be easy to write Ted Haggard off as a joke, but now that he agrees with us, let's listen to what he has to say."
I took an entirely different reading from that. They seem to be saying to note how even this person who previously seemed to be a diehard foe is changing his position. Rather, than, say, loving on or accepting him in any way.
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Asta Kask
Actually my first thought was "Yay! Boobs!"
They're not big but they're there.
Yeah, they're there. I just umm...
I like the shoes better.
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Lentrax
I like the shoes better.
I don't understand the thing that I am reading......:smallwink:
~Matthew~
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Keveak
On another note: Anyone heard about Nancy Chodorow's theories about gender in western culture? My Psychology homework mention them, and they seem really interesting. ^_^
Essentially, the idea is that the old (and still somewhat present) model of mother-as-caretaker, father-as-absent-money-maker, affects how children express their gender identities. In part due to how the mother may unconsciously treat seemingly male children as different and seemingly female ones as similar, in part because the children themselves would identify with the parent closest to their idea of self.
The male-identified children would try to look at the father as whom to mimic, but the father was often absent and became a symbol of the non-home environment and distancing, while the mother (seen as a symbol of care and closeness) would be the model of what not to be. essentially, the male-identified children would often define their masculinity by fearing or rejecting closeness to to those seen as female and in general identify with being different from the mother. The female-identified children would, by contrast, identify with the mother, attachment and would not be as divided between the parents as the male-identified.
I am not so sure that the theory is very universal or still as relevant as it was, but it struck me as a very good partial explanation for some of the patriarchal cultural aspects. How the culture often regards masculinity as something to be proved and never to get near "feminine" traits, while femininity is less insecure but also heavily associated with parenthood and nurturing.
Anyone have thoughts on it? :smallsmile:
Sounds like it contains a healthy daily value of horse considering that not loving one's mother is simply not an option because it is so scandalous and from all I've been able to gather is taken as marking one as inhuman. They might be onto something, but I very much doubt they have the whole picture, as that level of rejection would stunt the capacity for love.
The socio-economic levels of people are probably going to make it all wonky as well, at least from what I recall of the character of my peers when I was a boy.
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Celtic_D&Der
I don't understand the thing that I am reading......:smallwink:
People Parts don't matter to me. People are people, and while one is different from the other, I don't mind how they are organized.
I love everyone(almost) and how they present themselves to everyone else.
I know. I'm weird.
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Lentrax
People are people, and while one is different from the other
I love everyone(almost) and how they present themselves to everyone else.
I know. I'm weird.
Though I do love people parts, I also agree with this. People are people and whomever they are and in whatever form, they are wonderful. Including yourself. You aren't weird......you are just you :smallbiggrin:
~Matthew~
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Re: LGBTAitp 27: Of Shoes, and Ships, and Sealing Wax
Maybe we should check to see if Zorg is really comfortable with the tenor of this conversation before we continue on? :smalltongue:
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Coidzor
Maybe we should check to see if Zorg is really comfortable with the tenor of this conversation before we continue on? :smalltongue:
Should we make it more of a soprano or alto? :smallamused:
~Matthew~
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Coidzor
I took an entirely different reading from that. They seem to be saying to note how even this person who previously seemed to be a diehard foe is changing his position. Rather, than, say, loving on or accepting him in any way.
Anyone who still follows the word of Ted Haggard is already very forgiving and tolerant. I don't see how this is a "milestone," unless they just meant for him personally, which is not how, "he was the leader of the National Association of Evangelicals and is still a pastor, of sorts, and in connection with that community. His statement is a bit of a milestone," reads to me.
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Keveak
Hopefully much more than that, you could surpass everybody and make them have to follow along! ^_^
That's the plan! :smallbiggrin: Well, that's the hope. And not just my hope, it's a goal for the LGBT+ activists and supporters in Ireland to push Ireland ahead of the pack.
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Asta Kask
You must have changed... in the 19th century, Irishmen couldn't be seconds to duellants because part of the second's job was to negotiate a peaceful solution. The Irish were known for their bloodthirstyness and could not be trusted to really strive for a peaceful way out.
Funnily enough, in the 19th century, being racist (? culturist?) against the Irish wasn't so much a hobby as a requirement for polite British and British-influenced society.
Actually, this is still a common slur against us. When Katie Taylor won a gold medal for boxing this year in the Olympics (first time women's boxing was included!) (YAY KATIE!!) there was lots of "Ah, should have known the Irish would win 'cause they're good at nothing but drinking and fighting and there's no drinking Olympics" in both British and American coverage.
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Coidzor
Maybe we should check to see if Zorg is really comfortable with the tenor of this conversation before we continue on? :smalltongue:
What if we just move it up an octave?
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Kindablue
Anyone who still follows the word of Ted Haggard is already very forgiving and tolerant. I don't see how this is a "milestone," unless they just meant for him personally, which is not how, "he was the leader of the National Association of Evangelicals and is still a pastor, of sorts, and in connection with that community. His statement is a bit of a milestone," reads to me.
Personally I don't concern myself with that area of American life, so I could only assume he must have at least had some kind of unsavory past with regards to personal bigotry and encouraging bigotry in others that this stands in contrast to.
If your information is correct then it still doesn't seem to be an endorsement to listen to the man and rather just seems utterly non sequitur.
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Should we make it more of a soprano or alto? :smallamused:
~Matthew~
Poor form. Also ignores that there are indeed women who are tenors. :smalltongue:
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Lentrax
What if we just move it up an octave?
I'm always a fan of more poetry in my life, and everyone knows you can only discuss the character of a lady's face while she's present in verse. :smalltongue:
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Coidzor
Poor form. Also ignores that there are indeed women who are tenors.
But.....but you said tenor wasn't what we wanted! :smalleek:
~Matthew~
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Celtic_D&Der
But.....but you said tenor wasn't what we wanted! :smalleek:
~Matthew~
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No, I said maybe we shouldn't be discussing Zorg's bust much further without making sure that we're not making her uncomfortable. Maybe I missed that conversation and I'm just being unduly cautious because Zorg has already given the greenlight.
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Uhm... So I'm in a relationship now! And so far it's made me happier than I can remember in a long time. Uhm, any tips?
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No, I said maybe we shouldn't be discussing Zorg's bust much further without making sure that we're not making her uncomfortable. Maybe I missed that conversation and I'm just being unduly cautious because Zorg has already given the greenlight.
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No, you are fine. I was just making a pun with the tenor, soprano, alto thing. Wasn't meaning to cause offense. Apologies if I did.
~Matthew~
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No, I said maybe we shouldn't be discussing Zorg's bust much further without making sure that we're not making her uncomfortable. Maybe I missed that conversation and I'm just being unduly cautious because Zorg has already given the greenlight.
I don't know, I'm just kinda goin' with the flow.
Zorg, sweetie, just give the word and we will knock it off. I know what has happened is hard. I really do. So I know you may need us to step back.
Let us know. Either way, we are here for you! :smallsmile:
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Arti3
Uhm... So I'm in a relationship now! And so far it's made me happier than I can remember in a long time. Uhm, any tips?
Communication, Communication, Communication......this very much helps everything. Good Communication, anyway, not sniping at each other and attacking each other. Try to give the benefit of the doubt and do your best to trust them. Don't be completely gullible, but also don't be paranoid. There is a nice middle ground there somewhere, just takes time to find it. And don't rush things. Things will happen when they happen, and just go the speed both of you are comfortable with.
That is all atm. Take it or leave it. Probably isn't all that good advise anyway :smalltongue:
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I don't know, I'm just kinda goin' with the flow.
Zorg, sweetie, just give the word and we will knock it off. I know what has happened is hard. I really do. So I know you may need us to step back.
Let us know. Either way, we are here for you! :smallsmile:
Verily Seconded fair Maiden! Thou shalt feel the warmth of our comfort folding around thine self. For we are, at present and always, here as support for thou.
~Matthew~
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KenderWizard
Funnily enough, in the 19th century, being racist (? culturist?) against the Irish wasn't so much a hobby as a requirement for polite British and British-influenced society.
Actually, this is still a common slur against us. When Katie Taylor won a gold medal for boxing this year in the Olympics (first time women's boxing was included!) (YAY KATIE!!) there was lots of "Ah, should have known the Irish would win 'cause they're good at nothing but drinking and fighting and there's no drinking Olympics" in both British and American coverage.
Yeah, we just hit the mid-1800s in my US History class and the prof mentioned the anti-Irish riots and stuff. For a "nation of immigrants", America has rarely been particularly welcoming of immigrants. It's sad.
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Arti3
Uhm... So I'm in a relationship now! And so far it's made me happier than I can remember in a long time. Uhm, any tips?
Well, communication is key. Hints don't work. The Relationship Woes and Advice has some handy stuff in its OP and Serpentine may have some useful links about particular topics though I don't think those are in her signature anymore.
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Celtic_D&Der
That is all atm. Take it or leave it. Probably isn't all that good advise anyway :smalltongue:
I thought that was well said. Or, uh, written.
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Yeah, we just hit the mid-1800s in my US History class and the prof mentioned the anti-Irish riots and stuff. For a "nation of immigrants", America has rarely been particularly welcoming of immigrants. It's sad.
If it makes you feel any better about the country, most of that hatred and resistance is doubted by historians to have actually existed.
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Coidzor
They might be onto something, but I very much doubt they have the whole picture, as that level of rejection would stunt the capacity for love.
Sometimes, maybe. Not always. And I find it somewhat disturbing that you think so, honestly. I know several people who not only don't love, but actively dislike, their mothers, whether said mother is only the one responsible for bearing them (my cousin, who effectively became my adoptive sister), or the one who raised them as well (my other sister, of sorts (she's actually someone I met on another site, but who I've since basically adopted as part of my family (and if you disagree with the premise that I'm as close to her as I would be a "real" sister, I'd like to ask just what evidence you have for saying that I'm not)), and a very close friend), because their mothers are terrible people. It doesn't seem to have stunted their capacity for love in the least.
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Coidzor
Well, communication is key. Hints don't work.
This. This is the key. Be blunt. Keep subtlety for minor stuff that you are certain won't upset you should your partner not get it.
Bluntness. It's good.
I should know, I'm an oblivious moron. And they say girls are obsessed with obnoxious mind games.
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Kindablue
So something more like the level of sentiment in the US today than actual riots and lynchings?
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noparlpf
So something more like the level of sentiment in the US today than actual riots and lynchings?
There were riots, it's just that most people didn't care and didn't feel any differently about the Irish than they did any other kind of European. Most of the people who did care hated the newcomers because they competed for the same jobs, and not because they thought the Irish were an inferior people not capable of anything except making more Irish.
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Arti3
Uhm... So I'm in a relationship now! And so far it's made me happier than I can remember in a long time. Uhm, any tips?
Cuddle and talk! :smallsmile: Enjoy it, do what feels good and don't do anything that doesn't feel good.
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Yeah, we just hit the mid-1800s in my US History class and the prof mentioned the anti-Irish riots and stuff. For a "nation of immigrants", America has rarely been particularly welcoming of immigrants. It's sad.
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Huh, interesting stuff. I don't know much about historical discrimination in the US. Every now and then I hear something about how black people were treated and I'm gobsmacked! Anyway, it is generally considered that one faces less discrimination in the States and Australia than in Britain. But then, you'll always find other Irish, no matter where you go. We're a bit like Kender that way. :smallwink:
In LGBT+ terms, does it help to find other people? If you moved to a new country, or I guess a new town for those of you in big countries, would you seek out LGBT+ people specifically?
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Huh, interesting stuff. I don't know much about historical discrimination in the US. Every now and then I hear something about how black people were treated and I'm gobsmacked!
Our nation has much to repent for.
In other news, I just got introduced to John Corvino's youtube videos, and I have to say :smallbiggrin:.
He has a strong moral judgment and a dry wit that complement each other well.
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Zorg
News from yesterday:
News from today:
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My GF and I just split up.
Stars... That sucks.
Perhaps tis for the best? It's possible that distance will allow change without witness, so when she sees you again and realizes, male or female, you're still you, she will come around? Perhaps even just a friend who cares is worthwhile.
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Actually my first thought was "Yay! Boobs!"
They're not big but they're there.
>_> guilty...
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Asta Kask
You must have changed... in the 19th century, Irishmen couldn't be seconds to duellants because part of the second's job was to negotiate a peaceful solution. The Irish were known for their bloodthirstyness and could not be trusted to really strive for a peaceful way out.
It's a matter of picking your battles. There were also rumors o the Irish - or at least Irish Americans - switching sides before a fight so both sides were even. He who rails against the world has no friends. A psychopath with discernment, there's a force to reckon.
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I don't understand the thing that I am reading......:smallwink:
~Matthew~
That would explain the vest, then. :smalltongue:
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Arti3
Uhm... So I'm in a relationship now! And so far it's made me happier than I can remember in a long time. Uhm, any tips?
Relax, and enjoy :smallsmile:
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C'nor
Sometimes, maybe. Not always. And I find it somewhat disturbing that you think so, honestly. I know several people who not only don't love, but actively dislike, their mothers, whether said mother is only the one responsible for bearing them (my cousin, who effectively became my adoptive sister), or the one who raised them as well (my other sister, of sorts (she's actually someone I met on another site, but who I've since basically adopted as part of my family (and if you disagree with the premise that I'm as close to her as I would be a "real" sister, I'd like to ask just what evidence you have for saying that I'm not)), and a very close friend), because their mothers are terrible people. It doesn't seem to have stunted their capacity for love in the least.
Well, I imagine that's a different sort of rejection than this and one arrived at later in life than what was being discussed. To reject as other one's own mother is different from being the victim of physical abuse or realizing that one was raised by a caricature of a lawyer or anything between those two throwaway poles.
If you're talking about those with maternal issues being viewed as inhuman, you're preaching to the choir here, as that's merely my observation of how I've been viewed as a figure of horror and depravity for the rocky relationship I've had with my own mother.
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@Zorg
*hugs*
That is awful, but like Siuis said, it may be good for both of you to get a little time to se how things go, what will change and what won't. I do hope you two can stay friends at least. I'm so jealous of your boobs shoes by the way.
The whole Irish discrimination thing iskind of funny from a modern viewpoint, seeing as the U.S. basically has a festival where everyone pretends to be offensively stereotypically Irish, but in a fun rather than mocking way (in general) and at least where I am, that also becomes an annual festival of "What miniscule fraction of Irish blood do I have?"
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Coidzor
Well, I imagine that's a different sort of rejection than this and one arrived at later in life than what was being discussed. To reject as other one's own mother is different from being the victim of physical abuse or realizing that one was raised by a caricature of a lawyer or anything between those two throwaway poles.
If you're talking about those with maternal issues being viewed as inhuman, you're preaching to the choir here, as that's merely my observation of how I've been viewed as a figure of horror and depravity for the rocky relationship I've had with my own mother.
Depends on when the one under discussion was theoretically arrived at, I suppose. But yes, I can see how if that was the exact meaning it would probably be correct.
And I wasn't, exactly, though that's certainly something I have issues with as well, since that's happened to the aforementioned close friend as well. I'm not sure of the extent of it in your case (nor am I going to ask unless you feel like volunteering), so I'm not going to try to compare them, but... Yes. Not good at all, and very hard to get around, since giving the reasons for the problems tends to be seen as more proof that you're a terrible person. :smallfrown:
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Lentrax
Yeah, they're there. I just umm...
I like the shoes better.
Whereas my first thought was "Damn, girl, you're skinnier than me!"
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Selpharia
@Zorg
I'm so jealous of your boobs shoes by the way.
Let's be honest. I think everyone is a touch jealous.
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I mean, that outfit is nice. The pinkish trim sells it.
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The whole Irish discrimination thing iskind of funny from a modern viewpoint, seeing as the U.S. basically has a festival where everyone pretends to be offensively stereotypically Irish, but in a fun rather than mocking way (in general) and at least where I am, that also becomes an annual festival of "What miniscule fraction of Irish blood do I have?"
I dunno, I hear it's a right good hatefest as the real Irish get Malloy about all the plastic paddies touting clovers and beer and leprechauns and mixing them with the Scottish and makin up all these claims that aren't even really Irish. One of my favorites was a ten minute rant on the word 'begorrah', bringing in such things as green being The Color (I think Saint Patrick actually has his own particular shade of blue) and corned beef and cabbage being an American Irish immigrant thing. I didn't have the heart to say Begorrah makes as much sense as zounds.
Still, my forte take was the beer commercial with an Irishman walking to a bar, talking about that day of drink when all the world over, everyone shares the same nationality in the spirit of fun, and good company.
Cinco de Mayo, when all are Mexican and all drink Corona especial. :smallbiggrin:
Boy was I a bit plothurt at first about that
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Whereas my first thought was "Damn, girl, you're skinnier than me!"
Heck, she looks skinnier than me, and I've never seen that in a healthy individual before...
This was going to include a compliment for you Helio, but every phrasing sounds creepy. So I think you look nice and wish I looked more like you.
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I dunno, I hear it's a right good hatefest as the real Irish get Malloy about all the plastic paddies touting clovers and beer and leprechauns and mixing them with the Scottish and makin up all these claims that aren't even really Irish. One of my favorites was a ten minute rant on the word 'begorrah', bringing in such things as green being The Color (I think Saint Patrick actually has his own particular shade of blue) and corned beef and cabbage being an American Irish immigrant thing. I didn't have the heart to say Begorrah makes as much sense as zounds.
Maybe, I'm mostly speaking from personal experience, and while there's always some irritation, it never struck me as a "hatefest" I'll admit I ted to take a rosy view of things like this until I actually see such things though. It's certainly not quite the same as the original discrimination back in the day. I don't know though.
I'll add to the chain of "wishing I looked more like" and assume based on your description of yourself, Siuis, that I should be jealous of your slimness. It's a Conga line of envy!
~Laura
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Listening to a friend blare Auld Lang Syne on a bagpipe is a St. Patrick's Day tradition for me.
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I just spend the day saying, oh yeah, it's that thing, I forgot about it. So basically I treat it like 99% of everything else ever.
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I dunno who this guy is, but I kind of do agree with this new thing he has to say. Churches and other such organizations can happily ban that marriage in their organizations. But really... why do they care about OTHER organizations doing other things? It's like... if basketball players were really upset that football players don't bounce their balls like they do.
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"It might be easy to write Ted Haggard off as a joke, but now that he agrees with us, let's listen to what he has to say."
To be fair, if someone says something completely stupid, it's easy to write them off as a joke. But once they start making sense... well... maybe then you can start to listen.
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I dunno who this guy is, but I kind of do agree with this new thing he has to say. Churches and other such organizations can happily ban that marriage in their organizations. But really... why do they care about OTHER organizations doing other things? It's like... if basketball players were really upset that football players don't bounce their balls like they do.
That's been one of my arguments before. It's a pretty obvious argument. The answer is usually fairly illogical.
I love the strawman "but we already have marriage equality, gays can marry people of the opposite sex just like anybody". It's really cute how politicians reword things to give them a different spin. "Marriage equality" instead of "homosexual marriage". They mean very different things if you actually think about it.
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I actually noticed her pants first. Those are really nice pants. :smalltongue:
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Uhm... So I'm in a relationship now! And so far it's made me happier than I can remember in a long time. Uhm, any tips?
I don't have any advice, but n.n
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Well, I imagine that's a different sort of rejection than this and one arrived at later in life than what was being discussed. To reject as other one's own mother is different from being the victim of physical abuse or realizing that one was raised by a caricature of a lawyer or anything between those two throwaway poles.
If you're talking about those with maternal issues being viewed as inhuman, you're preaching to the choir here, as that's merely my observation of how I've been viewed as a figure of horror and depravity for the rocky relationship I've had with my own mother.
*Hugs* I find it odd how most people react when I say I don't like either of my parents. Those who don't just write me off as whiny seem to have an easier time believing I have problems with my dad than my mom for some reason. Also, it's kind of ironic that most of the things people blame for it (like how I was perpetually angry growing up) actually resulted from taking their advice. >.>
~Bianca
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Poor form. Also ignores that there are indeed women who are tenors. :smalltongue:
I'm always a fan of more poetry in my life, and everyone knows you can only discuss the character of a lady's face while she's present in verse. :smalltongue:
It seems it's too late to key in to this conversation (sorry, incredible lame pun, but I couldn't stop myself)
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The whole Irish discrimination thing iskind of funny from a modern viewpoint, seeing as the U.S. basically has a festival where everyone pretends to be offensively stereotypically Irish, but in a fun rather than mocking way (in general) and at least where I am, that also becomes an annual festival of "What miniscule fraction of Irish blood do I have?"
That's because the Irish seem to have a dark sense of humor where fooling around (read testing your liver's limits) on their national holiday is actually funny. A friend of mine quoted Boondock Saints "It's St. Patricksday, everyone is irish on St. Pats."
On another note, isn't it time for a next thread? We seem to have reached the 50 page limit.
*sets Lixie free* this has gone on long enough for now :smallamused:
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Re: LGBTAitp 27: Of Shoes, and Ships, and Sealing Wax
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SiuiS
I dunno, I hear it's a right good hatefest as the real Irish get Malloy about all the plastic paddies touting clovers and beer and leprechauns and mixing them with the Scottish and makin up all these claims that aren't even really Irish. One of my favorites was a ten minute rant on the word 'begorrah', bringing in such things as green being The Color (I think Saint Patrick actually has his own particular shade of blue) and corned beef and cabbage being an American Irish immigrant thing. I didn't have the heart to say Begorrah makes as much sense as zounds.
Corned beef? :smallconfused:
New thread time! Who wants to make it?
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Re: LGBTAitp 27: Of Shoes, and Ships, and Sealing Wax
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KenderWizard
Corned beef? :smallconfused:
New thread time! Who wants to make it?
you? or any of your (if applicable) other personalities?
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Re: LGBTAitp 27: Of Shoes, and Ships, and Sealing Wax
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KenderWizard
Corned beef? :smallconfused:
New thread time! Who wants to make it?
Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Can I do it? Pretty please? :smallbiggrin:
~Phoenix~
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Re: LGBTAitp 27: Of Shoes, and Ships, and Sealing Wax
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Absol197
Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Can I do it? Pretty please? :smallbiggrin:
~Phoenix~
Liek Scooter says in one of his songs: "GO AHEAD!" *queue techno music*
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Re: LGBTAitp 27: Of Shoes, and Ships, and Sealing Wax