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Re: My Little Pony LXXXI: All Of These Ponies Are Crazy!
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Originally Posted by
Aotrs Commander
SiuS, SiuiS, SiuiS...
Again, you make the assumption that that they WANT to negotiate.
If Thanqol never did anything to set them off, they might have just decided they like bullying him, or are Evil and don't give a frack...
There's a reason for it. There's always a reason; that's how we work, you see. Reasons and promises.
More specifically, though, I suggested getting other birds as allies. That has naught to do with the bullis in question.
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Moreover, on a serious note: birds are not mammals. They do not think like mammals, they do not interact like mammals (critically, they do not socialise or play in a way like mammals do) - and you cannot train them like mammals. "Cats can't be trained" as said by the masses is a bollocks statement anyway; I mean really, how do people think the people that do animals for telly manage if "cats couldn't be trained?" How many zookeepers have been tragically killed because the tiger wanted to play and were just too strong?
But not birds. Ask any falconer, for example, and they'll tell you that if people think Cats Are Bastards, they have never dealt with a bird of prey. They really REALLY don't care about you and barely tolerate you, to the point that every time you release them, there is a chance that they will just fly off and never come back. Every time. Same with any bird, pretty much. (Nevermind the fact the little frackers will cheerfully stick their talons into you hands and lock tight until you relax your muscle long enough to make them think your hand is dead...) That's how much of a dropping birds think you are worth, mammal. You are even considered worthy enough to be a permenant source of food shelter or medical care.
I dunno. I'm not sure how useful 'bird of prey' is compared to corvid? But crows and ravens are very, uh, "trainable", in to hat they can be influenced practically and with consistent results. I'm not advocating blackbirds in goods and jesses (although that's a very interesting thought I will file away for later for changeling fanart :smallredface: ), I'm suggesting being nice to a group of lizard-brained lazy scavengers who have no qualms about protecting their gravy train from others like themselves.
But really man, I want more songs. Stop helping Thanqol or he won't sing anymore!
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t209
I am feeling that they might have invented Warhammer Dwarves' Book of Grudges.
You know, I'm often baffled at some of the connections you make, but I do admire the sheer breadth of your ability. Keep it up, mate. :smallsmile:
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Rater202
Not even with contigient spells or other indirect methods of spellcasting?(Do such things even exist on Dreemaenhyll?)
Actually, when yu first sent it out, and I mentioned my surprise at you not rewording the poorly worded Capstone for the DrdNec, you mentioned that it did infact gicve the Lich template, before going on to say that Dreemaenhyll campainghs use the stronger Lich template provided.
If you can't make yourself one, then how does that work?
also, how close is your Lich template to actual spirit-bound Liches such as yourself?
The answer is, as always, while it may be technically possible, that possibility is not always relevant.
For example; Bleakbane is big on saying you can't undergo spirit binding while alive. That's not technically-factually-true. It's possible. But the end result is useless; you're alive and under siege by a dual nature that's unstable and at war with itself. The end result is a living body that's damaged by it's own negative energy forces, undeath hampered by limitations of biology, and worse.
That's technically possible, with a very large investment of effort (the kind of effort that makes you ask what the benefit of such a binding was since you're already capable of doing such crazy things), but since you don't get a spirit bound lich, you don't get any benefit, you do burn a Hel of a lot of resources, you do need expertise or insanity at frightening levels, and it's not guaranteed successful every time, it's rationally a failure and something you cannot do.
Hel, I'm not even sure it did it right. Who knows? The question you want to ask in these matters is not "given infinite time, energy and mastery, can I do the thing?" But what the end result you want is and the best method of attaining that result.
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Aotrs Commander
Not really, since you have to be actually dead - i.e. specifically your soul has to be seperated from your body - to be able to be spirit-summoned to be spirit-bound. Contingency doesn't work if you're dead. (I don't believe. And likely wouldn't rule.) Basically, it's just like Raise Dead or Resurrection you can't - as far as I know - cast them on yourself either while you're dead.
I'm surprised none of your players have looked into spell engine technologies. You can do a lot with loading spell power into ... I don't even know how to describe it, really. Grossly, it's a spell which creates a matrix which holds magical energy to be released upon trigger or coinciding as though it were another caster working in concert with the actual Mage. Without significant investment in development though, there's a high space and time cost, in that you have to carve the systems into existence and they occupy an area, and you have to load them manually. I once lit up most of a moon just building a working diagram.
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b_jonas
On making a Spirit-bound Lich of oneself.
That sounds similar to the problem whether a vampire priest like Durkon could resurrect himself. He can't do it because the vampire needs to be destroyed first for the resurrection to work. (It's in the rules and they had to destroy the bone golem too before Roy could be resurrected.) He can't use Contingency because it can cast spells only up to level 6, and you would need at least a level 7 Resurrection spell, plus I think the Contingency will no longer be able to work once the caster is destroyed. The spell Imbue with Spell Ability doesn't work for the same reason. Scribing scrolls won't help much because in DnD only powerful clerics can
Fun fact, actually; undeath halts decay. Specifically, time spent undead does not count as time deceased, at all (RAW). So a three thousand year old vampire, who arose after the classic "three days buried" scenario, would be able to be brought back by a simple raise dead spell, because when you defeated the vampire his body would only have been dead for three days.busing the necrocarnum circlet and necrocarnum zombie is a means of keeping a body alive indefinitely until you can get that rejuvenate spell that must be used within one round of death, too.
[QUOTE=DigoDragon;17906180]Poor BonBon...
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Additional fun fact: that's how my self-insert Mary Sue got infinite access to super Sonic form. XD
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Re: My Little Pony LXXXI: All Of These Ponies Are Crazy!
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Gamerlord
Finally saw it. Heehee, that was fun. The music really makes it better than good.
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Soras Teva Gee
I was expecting some more size disparity....
In which direction? :smallbiggrin:
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SiuiS
(although that's a very interesting thought I will file away for later for changeling fanart :smallredface: )
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SiuiS
I'm surprised none of your players have looked into spell engine technologies.
You said "Spell Engine" and I immediately thought the Jump Drive systems in Dragonstar. Huge mana batteries tied to an artifact that casts Teleport on the ship.
*Poof!* You're there.
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SiuiS
Hel, I'm not even sure it did it right. Who knows? The question you want to ask in these matters is not "given infinite time, energy and mastery, can I do the thing?" But what the end result you want is and the best method of attaining that result.
I was just asking a question. Specifically, "Given the knowledge and resources to craft the cantigent spells, could doing this work around the 'Need help from an other cater' limitation on this specific variation of Lichdom?"
I got my answer(Though Bleakbane never did answer my question about how a DrdNec can lichify themselves if they need help from an other caster)
The end result I want* is unlikely to be achieved by spirit-bound lichdom anyway
*That would be "achive complete immortality by combining only the best non-redundant aspects of biological, necrotic, elelemental, and celestial life-forms, dripping dragon's blood onto the whole thing, and then grafting the end result onto my body and soul
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Octavia and Vinyl... no wait, I mean Vinyl and Otavia.
Celestia is Best Pokemon
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Pokonic
In a world where a rabbit can write and goats can set up stage equipment, a bear having a stove isn't the thing that raises the most questions.
Is it wrong that I don't find that out of character nor wouldn't be surprised if this happened to become canon?
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DigoDragon
*snerk*
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Silverraptor
Is it wrong that I don't find that out of character nor wouldn't be surprised if this happened to become canon?
Not really, no...
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Rater202
I got my answer(Though Bleakbane never did answer my question about how a DrdNec can lichify themselves if they need help from an other caster)
Different question, because it's 20-levels of slow corruption, essentially. Like I say, Dread Necromancer's 20th level class feature isn't ever going to come up often enough for me to worry about too much, since on top of everything else is a class feature and thus a mechanical feature subject to fluff interpretation. Which may or may not have anything to do with traditional spirit-binding and equally may simply a conveniant rules-mechanics abstract of a unique Undead.
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SiuiS
But really man, I want more songs. Stop helping Thanqol or he won't sing anymore!
If you insist...
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I'm surprised none of your players have looked into spell engine technologies. You can do a lot with loading spell power into ... I don't even know how to describe it, really. Grossly, it's a spell which creates a matrix which holds magical energy to be released upon trigger or coinciding as though it were another caster working in concert with the actual Mage. Without significant investment in development though, there's a high space and time cost, in that you have to carve the systems into existence and they occupy an area, and you have to load them manually. I once lit up most of a moon just building a working diagram.
Because a) I don't think ay of them ever have the sort inclination to spend that long thinking about things, b) there's a 50% chance it would the result of "DM says no" (up to 75% if means dealing with a group of up to nine PCs like the weekly sessions) and 50% chance that whatever they do will come back the other way and nastier..
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Silverraptor
Is it wrong that I don't find that out of character nor wouldn't be surprised if this happened to become canon?
I was thinking the same question. So no, it wouldn't. :smallwink:
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Woo! Zenith updated again, finally!
(From the sounds of it, Decendant is having a pretty grim time of it himself, so it's nice to him back.)
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Forum Explorer
Excerpts like this one are why I really enjoy Starlight over Detrot;
Me too. There's a reason that fic is currently sitting at the top of my Favorites list. (You know. Aside from the fact that it just updated.)
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DigoDragon
Annnnnnd Subscribed *click*
Alas, I'm pretty sure she was talking about WoD Changeling, not the buggy MLP changelings.
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Rater202
I was just asking a question. Specifically, "Given the knowledge and resources to craft the cantigent spells, could doing this work around the 'Need help from an other cater' limitation on this specific variation of Lichdom?"
I got my answer(Though Bleakbane never did answer my question about how a DrdNec can lichify themselves if they need help from an other caster)
Across 20 levels you achieve a state similar/identical to lichdom via independent processes taking your entire career? Seems pretty straightforward to me.
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The end result I want* is unlikely to be achieved by spirit-bound lichdom anyway
*That would be "achive complete immortality by combining only the best non-redundant aspects of biological, necrotic, elelemental, and celestial life-forms, dripping dragon's blood onto the whole thing, and then grafting the end result onto my body and soul
Oh! That's easy. The void holds the answers you seek. Although achieving them may drain all joie de vivre.
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Aotrs Commander
Because a) I don't think ay of them ever have the sort inclination to spend that long thinking about things, b) there's a 50% chance it would the result of "DM says no" (up to 75% if means dealing with a group of up to nine PCs like the weekly sessions) and 50% chance that whatever they do will come back the other way and nastier..
Yeah, backfire is a pretty big component of that stuff.
Really, the difference between new magical theory to create constructs which empower your magic forward for you and making ice assassins that do the same thing is A) different fluff and B) much larger cost.
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One Tin Soldier
Alas, I'm pretty sure she was talking about WoD Changeling, not the buggy MLP changelings.
A pretty specific individual changeling, to boot, but I'm flexible. :smallwink:
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SiuiS
Oh! That's easy. The void holds the answers you seek. Although achieving them may drain all joie de vivre.
Yeah, I'm sorta not alowed in The Void, or anywhere else in the Lorian Multiverse, ever since I accidentally sent the two Shadow Claws into each others timelines while Dusk and I went on a bender
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SiuiS
Yeah, backfire is a pretty big component of that stuff.
On the other hoof, True Mad Scientists/Mages/Magi-scientists care not if their creations backfire, as long as it comes anywhere near close to working.
How does the rule go again? "Mad Science means never having to say 'what's the worst thing that could happen?'".
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Mad scientists are frequently neither mad nor scientists. My heart holds no special place for narcissistic engineers. The words mad scientist fall into the same glare-area as Eldritch abomination in my mindspace.
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*Yawn* Been up since 6am. The things I do for Trixie (and a free oil change).
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Aotrs Commander
Woo! Zenith updated again, finally!
Hmm, that reminds me that I have the next Outlaw Mares chapter typed up. Just needs a tiny bit of editing and it'll be up (hopefully before the weekend's out).
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One Tin Soldier
Alas, I'm pretty sure she was talking about WoD Changeling, not the buggy MLP changelings.
... ... ...eh, close enough.
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SiuiS
but I'm flexible. :smallwink:
That's what she said?
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DigoDragon
That's what she said?
That's what Cloud Kicker said.
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Yeesh, I step away to play with Egyptian laser-crocodiles for a bit and everything drops dead?
Nearly twelve hours with no posts must be close to a record...
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Aotrs Commander
Yeesh, I step away to play with Egyptian laser-crocodiles for a bit and everything drops dead?
Nearly twelve hours with no posts must be close to a record...
I've been busy trying to upgrade my Doom and Destiny Weapons in Dragonfable.
They're stronger than anything else of their level, but the Maintenance is killer.
and that's on top of the high costs to actually get the damn things
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Aotrs Commander
Yeesh, I step away to play with Egyptian laser-crocodiles for a bit and everything drops dead?
Nearly twelve hours with no posts must be close to a record...
Sorry, I slid back into a certain old habit :smallfrown:
Clearly what I need is a Bleakbane clone in my home to keep me on task, possibly holding a cat o' nine tails.
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Aotrs Commander
Yeesh, I step away to play with Egyptian laser-crocodiles for a bit and everything drops dead?
Are you forrizzle? I'm in the middle of the most intense GalCiv Pony game ever! :smallbiggrin: I decided to go for the ultimate challenge: I'm playing as 'Good' Princess Celestia against 9 evil opponents and I'm trying to see how far I can get without ever firing a shot. I've got opponents wielding Blackhole guns and Deathrays and yet, I've managed to bribe, intimidate, sell out, and lie out of every singe war! :D
I bribed Discord to attack Queen Chrysalis. King Sombra retaliated against discord and blew him off the map. Then I turned around and bought a chunk of Sombra's military, turned around and sold it dirt-cheep to the Daleks (who hate Sombra and were quite willing to fight him for me when I asked 'nicely').
"Twilight, take the rest of the year off, I totally got this!!"
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zimmerwald1915
Clearly what I need is a Bleakbane clone in my home to keep me on task, possibly holding a cat o' nine tails.
See, I don't get why nopony wants to hire a changelings for the job.
Not only would we gladly wield that cat o' nine tails for you, we'll do it in the form of your favorite pony. :smallbiggrin: ...or is that too distracting? :3
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Aotrs Commander
Yeesh, I step away to play with Egyptian laser-crocodiles for a bit and everything drops dead?
Nearly twelve hours with no posts must be close to a record...
An academy record?
(Sorry. Pony's just permanently in my Netflix rotation, so certain phrases stick more than they might otherwise.)
That said, Egyptian laser-crocodiles are definitely worth stepping away from slow ponythreads for.
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Kd7sov
That said, Egyptian laser-crocodiles are definitely worth stepping away from slow ponythreads for.
Yes. Yes they are.
Laser crocodile are frickin' awesome.
I can see why it was so highly rated - it's definitely one of the better RTS campaign-wise I've played for a while.
(Of course, that is a distorted sample, since with the exception of Starcraft 2, I have mostly played old RTS games in the past year, and ones that weren't all that good otherwise I'd have finished them the first time around and virtually no bugger makes RTS for the singleplayer campaign - if they make ithem at all - nowadays.)
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DigoDragon
Are you forrizzle? I'm in the middle of the most intense GalCiv Pony game ever! :smallbiggrin: I decided to go for the ultimate challenge: I'm playing as 'Good' Princess Celestia against 9 evil opponents and I'm trying to see how far I can get without ever firing a shot. I've got opponents wielding Blackhole guns and Deathrays and yet, I've managed to bribe, intimidate, sell out, and lie out of every singe war! :D
I bribed Discord to attack Queen Chrysalis. King Sombra retaliated against discord and blew him off the map. Then I turned around and bought a chunk of Sombra's military, turned around and sold it dirt-cheep to the Daleks (who hate Sombra and were quite willing to fight him for me when I asked 'nicely').
"Twilight, take the rest of the year off, I totally got this!!"
Well, that's one way to go about it...
(I dearly hope that GalCiv 3 actually balances the moral choice system somewhat so that it is not basically a nerf to pick anything other than the evil option...)
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DigoDragon
See, I don't get why nopony wants to hire a changelings for the job.
Not only would we gladly wield that cat o' nine tails for you, we'll do it in the form of your favorite pony. :smallbiggrin: ...or is that too distracting? :3
What's your going rate? The thing about Bleakbane is he's evil enough to do it for free, just for the enjoyment of it.
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Aotrs Commander
Well, that's one way to go about it...
(I dearly hope that GalCiv 3 actually balances the moral choice system somewhat so that it is not basically a nerf to pick anything other than the evil option...)
In GalCiv particularly, I'd have it where 'Good' races get a bonus to diplomacy with every other race, while evil takes a penalty dealing with good and neutral races. Because no one actually likes dealing with people who are evil, and they do like dealing with people who are good. Or perhaps a boost to your own people's loyalty.
However in general, I'm fine with choosing Good to be a nerf. It's more realistic for doing the 'right thing' to make life harder for yourself. You might get rewarded incidentally, but generally you end up giving something up to be a good person. At the very least you don't gain much. Making them both have bonuses changes it from a choice between good and evil to team a or team b.
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Aotrs Commander
(I dearly hope that GalCiv 3 actually balances the moral choice system somewhat so that it is not basically a nerf to pick anything other than the evil option...)
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Forum Explorer
In GalCiv particularly, I'd have it where 'Good' races get a bonus to diplomacy with every other race, while evil takes a penalty dealing with good and neutral races. Because no one actually likes dealing with people who are evil, and they do like dealing with people who are good. Or perhaps a boost to your own people's loyalty.
I think loyalty is a fair buff for good races. Heck, I think good races should have an easier time flipping planets to their own side. If I were living in an evil empire that was always warring with someone and next door I was offered cookies and better wages on a bomb-free planet, I'd defect. :D
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zimmerwald1915
What's your going rate? The thing about Bleakbane is he's evil enough to do it for free, just for the enjoyment of it.
Ah. Cheapest I can go is 2 waffles per hour. It's a trade off I guess.
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TheAmishPirate
You'll note that Angel has matched Spike's lifespan.
[Insert generic Buffy reference here]
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Aotrs Commander
Yeesh, I step away to play with Egyptian laser-crocodiles for a bit and everything drops dead?
Nearly twelve hours with no posts must be close to a record...
If the rumors about a 2015 airdate are true, I get the feeling it's going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.
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Gamerlord
If the rumors about a 2015 airdate are true, I get the feeling it's going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.
Well there's the Rainbow Rocks movie for those of us that follow it. Might generate a few comments.
Maybe a rant...?
Rock Fiction
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Uh, for those who would be interested, there are two open player slots for a ongoing Fallout:Equestria game, the general overview for which is right here.
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Found a pretty neat fan animation of the Canterlot invasion.
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Pokonic
Uh, for those who would be interested, there are two open player slots for a ongoing Fallout:Equestria game, the general overview for which is right
here.
Es muy bueno.
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So many nice tracks and PMV's out lately. What can one do but just link them all!!!
The music
Party Time! (Owl City parody)
Sight Unseen - Blackgryphon
Together - Foozogz
The PMVs
It's Time
La da de.
Starlight
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DigoDragon
That is a huge improvement on the Once Upon A Time In Canterlot. Don't like the song as much though.
Speaking of music,
Ghostbusters PMV
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Pokonic
Uh, for those who would be interested, there are two open player slots for a ongoing Fallout:Equestria game, the general overview for which is right
here.
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DigoDragon
Es muy bueno.
Yup, a couple more players would be most appreciated. :smallsmile: