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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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Originally Posted by
Lycan 01
Serrin says that too cheerfully. :smalleek:
That's because she has a talent for magic, and so does the rest of her family, so she has no idea.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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Originally Posted by
Lycan 01
Serrin says that too cheerfully. :smalleek:
I just imagine cheerful is her default expression, and from Serrin's point of view, she's just explaining something which doesn't not overly concern her. Also, I'm not sure why, but I find it cool that there's a family for each school of magic.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
What if you are a Pekane and wish to specialize in e.g. evocation? Is that a choice in this world, because in some worlds the magic chooses you. If you are born an evoker then an evoker you are.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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Originally Posted by
RdMarquis
I just imagine cheerful is her default expression, and from Serrin's point of view, she's just explaining something which doesn't not overly concern her. Also, I'm not sure why, but I find it cool that there's a family for each school of magic.
Pretty much.
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Originally Posted by
Asta Kask
What if you are a Pekane and wish to specialize in e.g. evocation? Is that a choice in this world, because in some worlds the magic chooses you. If you are born an evoker then an evoker you are.
Yeah, you can (though you will be teased for it). Remember, it's a family specialty. But not everyone specializes.
Serrin's spellbook is a family grimoir. It's got spells going back hundreds of years, and each member of the family is supposed to create a spell and add it to the spellbook. This happens in weddings too; a new spell is a major part of the dowry. Lucrid made Lucrid's Protagonist Detection as the wedding dowry spell.
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If the various major elven families specialize in a certain branch of magic, I think in a Murphy's Law setting they would get some sort of bonus to that.
A +1/+2(maybe more) on the CL of those kind of spells.
An extra spell slot per spell level that can be exclusively used for those kind of spells.
Gain a free set of spells as if they were a domain wizard of that branch of magic.
Just a few ideas, others feel free to say their own.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
They could get a bigger starting spellbook. Two extra 1st-level spells of that school would seem sufficient.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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Originally Posted by
Asta Kask
What if you are a Pekane and wish to specialize in e.g. evocation? Is that a choice in this world, because in some worlds the magic chooses you. If you are born an evoker then an evoker you are.
You are thinking on sorcerers; Wizards study a lot of time to become Wizards, so you can't be born as a wizard much less born as an evoker; specialization is a choice.
From an optimization point of view Abjuration is not a really good specialization as the most critical spells from that school are on the cleric spell list; but they get a ton of fun spells and one of the strongest prestige classes The initiate of the Sevenfoil Veil, fear the power of RAINBOWS!!!!
And I can really picture Serrin taking that Prg. Class.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
No, I've played in a setting where wizards specialization was inborn. You didn't have to become a wizard, but if you did you would specialize in a given school.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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Asta Kask
No, I've played in a setting where wizards specialization was inborn. You didn't have to become a wizard, but if you did you would specialize in a given school.
Was that a homebrewed setting? cause in the "Standard" D&D setting, Eberron or Forgotten Realms that isn't the case.
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And, the one person to whom that's the case (Sorcerors), I'm fairly sure they don't specialize, get me wrong. I don't play wizards much.
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SamBurke
And, the one person to whom that's the case (Sorcerors), I'm fairly sure they don't specialize, get me wrong. I don't play wizards much.
True. For a sorc to specialize they need to take a spell focus feat.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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HalfTangible
True. For a sorc to specialize they need to take a spell focus feat.
Spell focus =/= from specializing, Specialization is an specific game term that is exclusive to Wizards
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Dusk Eclipse
Spell focus =/= from specializing, Specialization is an specific game term that is exclusive to Wizards
I know :smallannoyed: You got the point, right?
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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HalfTangible
I know :smallannoyed: You got the point, right?
Hey, stay enough time in char op forums and trying to clear up (apparent) misconceptions become almost a second nature; I am sorry if I offended you.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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Dusk Eclipse
Was that a homebrewed setting? cause in the "Standard" D&D setting, Eberron or Forgotten Realms that isn't the case.
Yes it was. It might have been 2nd ed.
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Swiftmongoose
That's what I mean. I'd only ban myself from arcane casting, not enough to warrant a flaw with the other tier 1 classes out there.
*bonks on the head with a wii remote*
Aslo: Murphy's Law 7: So far only Matt and the dragon don't want the prince.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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Gicko
Ten bucks says the necromancy family makes an appearance in the future.
There are only seven families (unless that was a typo). Necromancy's probably the odd one out.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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Debatra
There are only seven families (unless that was a typo). Necromancy's probably the odd one out.
...Dammit, there are eight schools? *sigh* Fixing it now.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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CoffeeIncluded
...Dammit, there are eight schools? *sigh* Fixing it now.
Nice.
:smallamused:
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
Why isn't there a family for universal, who are famous for their versatility?
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Wich one did you miss cofee?
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Swiftmongoose
Why isn't there a family for universal, who are famous for their versatility?
Because if you do everything you aren’t really specializing.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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Swiftmongoose
Why isn't there a family for universal, who are famous for their versatility?
Because not everyone in the family specializes; Serrin and Saphrin haven't. It's just that when they do specialize, they specialize in their family's school. And they're familiar with spells of their school, even if they didn't specialize. Notice that Serrin immediately identified several of the wards at first glance, even though she's only level 9 and hasn't specialized.
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Bet they each have their own PrC as well.
Pathfinder gives each specialist little perks related to their specialization. It's a cool idea.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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Originally Posted by
Asta Kask
Bet they each have their own PrC as well.
Pathfinder gives each specialist little perks related to their specialization. It's a cool idea.
They also give universalists perks.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
TBT, I find Pathfinder an enormous step forward from 3.5 Too bad they upped the power of the Tier 1 classes.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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Asta Kask
TBT, I find Pathfinder an enormous step forward from 3.5 Too bad they upped the power of the Tier 1 classes.
And PF doesn't have 3.5's biggest melee fix. Tome of Battle. At least for those groups who think ToB is overpowered it helps a bit.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
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Asta Kask
TBT, I find Pathfinder an enormous step forward from 3.5 Too bad they upped the power of the Tier 1 classes.
*bonks on the head with a wii remote*
Persionally i like the bloodline system for sorccerers, gives a nice little quirk for them to help them distance themselves from Wizards. That and unlimited level 0 spells is awsome.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
I don't really know what you guys are talking about. :smalltongue: Also, I don't like the transition here much.
#137: Except For Those Fire Ones
Yes, I know that Tinder's shifted form doesn't have nipples or a navel. Think about it.
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Re: Murphy's Law 6: Will we ever stop burning through threads so quickly?
Hm, what could Matt be doing? Probably stealing from some lawful people by taking the -4 penalty for nonlethal. It'd still hit the AC of the average level 1-4 NPC.
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I have a bad feeling about this.