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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
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Originally Posted by
Serpentine
I heard recently about an ad campaign comparing homosexuality with left-handedness. I saw it on a couple of times tonight, and I think it's pretty good. It's not just homosexuality, either: it's gay, bi (iirc), trans and intersexed.
...a few mixed feelings as a sinister person, though :smalltongue:
I'm a Sinister Leftie too! ^_^
Wait... I am asexual.
*Hands turn into hooves*
Yay! Problem solved! X3
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Originally Posted by
The Succubus
It's derived from "baptism of fire" I suspect or possibly the other way around. A rather pointless ceremony for people that get a kick out of humiliating others. I recall an incident from my past involving a santa outfit and.....no, that's not a story I plan to share. :smallannoyed:
I much prefer our own hazing/baptism ceremony with hot drinks, biscuits and vary levels of physical embraces according to taste. It creates a much more positive atmosphere. :smallsmile:
That sounds very very very not fun. I really hope we do not have it in Denmark, I could barely take the verbal bullying as a child, I do not want to be forced to panic (Ridicule is not fun for me). ._.
*Hugs/cookies for Succubus*
I like your idea, it sounds fun. Particularly the biscuits, I like biscuits. :smallsmile:
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Originally Posted by
noparlpf
Apparently there's a form of hazing involving walking the newbies up to a roof/balcony, measuring out a rope to show it's a couple inches too short to reach the ground, tying a cinderblock to the other end, blindfolding the newbies, and then pretending to tie the rope to their penises ("hope it's long enough lol") and push the cinderblocks off.
I'd rather initiate newbies by having them put their names and addresses on an email list and giving them cookies. Seems much more friendly.
I had a response about how that would be both illegal and about seven orders of magnitude less mature than a kindergarten bully, but I think I will just stay far away from where that happens. I would never even try nor probably be viable to join such a group, but that they would do something on that level for fun scares me deeply. Eep. ._.
Email lists and cookies are much better in my mind too.
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Originally Posted by
Lentrax
So... no tieing you sown to force feed you cookies and get smothered with hugs when you get into the club?
*Mutters incoherent curses while scraping cookies off a plate*
Just kidding. You can still have some cookies, though they aren't as good as they could be if you were tied down.
Force-feeding someone can actually be lethal, at least by the means they used against 19th century suffragists. That aside, I do want cookies!
*Steals cookies*
Mine! Mine!
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
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Originally Posted by
The Succubus
I'd have thought bisexual folks would be ambidextrous with this logic. Not sure how it would work with transitioning folks though.
Well, I'm ambidextruous, and bisexual, so for me it's a match.
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Originally Posted by
AllIHaveIsCrunk
I'm going to be vague to protect the innocent. Me and the son are about the same age (he may be one or two years my junior) and my ex is about twice my age.
I think this clip, and the rest of the episode it is from should be required viewing. :smalltongue:
More seriously, I'd say drama is the only real problem, but drama is gonna be a PRETTY BIG problem.
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
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Originally Posted by
The Succubus
Is this in addition to being lefthanded? :smallamused:
I'd have thought bisexual folks would be ambidextrous with this logic. Not sure how it would work with transitioning folks though.
I wish they went together, I'd love to be ambidextrous! It'd be so useful!
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Originally Posted by
Astrella
Oh, I guess it's not really a universal thing. It's basically an entry ritual into a student society; it's not mandatory but very popular. Usually consists of humiliating the new entrants in various ways.
Ah, I see. I've only heard of that in the context of weird American college houses that have "hazing", I never heard "baptism" as a term for it. "Baptism" is what you do to give a baby a name and a place in the Catholic church (this also applies to both adults and other Christian churches, as far as I know).
To be honest, in that case, it's not so bad. They shouldn't be using crossdressing as some <<awful tool of humiliation because ew, nonconformity to the gendernormative code is so disgusting and wrong>>. I think there are better ways of going about it, certainly, but I don't object to "You are not allowed have someone crossdress to laugh at them" as much as I would to "You are not allowed to express yourself through crossdressing".
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Originally Posted by
Absol197
Well, I was going to reply to a bunch of stuff, but then three pages popped up overnight, and so now I won't :smallsmile: .
:smallsigh: I've been feeling very bipolar recently (I'm not actually bipolar, but...you'll see what I mean). It seems like every time I do something that actually makes me feel good, I feel great while I'm doing it, but then the next couple days are spent almost-crying about how unfair it is that something that simple has to be so hard.
As an example: On Friday night, I went to my friends' game night wearing my new skinny jeans, and after we had broken up for the night, I did some limited modeling with some of my other new purchases for one of my girl friends. It was a lot of fun, and I've rarely been that happy about being me.
However, once we had said our good nights and I was back in my car ready to drive home...well, I'm sure you get the idea. I just started coming out of that haze this morning on my way to work :smallfrown: . Having every couple hours of happiness followed by days of melancholy is no fun at all.
Also, as an aside, I hate my stupid broad shoulders. They're stupidly broad.
...Hmm...Well, on the brighter side, I talked to my sister on Saturday night, and (as predicted), she was perfectly fine :smallsmile: . So there's that!
~Phoenix~
*hugs*
I know that feeling.
I had my aunt cut my hair after I came out to her, and now if I get it to fall just right it looks pretty feminine. But it keeps falling out of place and now I can't get it back again and all I can see is how horrifyingly male my hairline is. That and I have no one around to teach me all the little tricks of hair styling, which I suppose will be my next youtube research project. Oh and I had to fend off the first inquisition from my mother about the therapist bills since I finally decided to try to get my parents' insurance to cover them. It just feels like everything is fighting me, so that two small steps become a mile. I spent most of yesterday curled into a miserable ball instead of doing the reading and papers that are piling up.
Perhaps the answer is just to do as much of the things that give happiness so the melancholy never has a chance to settle in? That's probably not a practical solution though, even though it is the best one.
I'm glad that your sister was fine with it, more support, especially people close to you, is always nice. Also, hooray new clothes!
~Laura
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
I know exactly what you mean about the horrifyingly male hairline :(
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
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Originally Posted by
KenderWizard
To be honest, in that case, it's not so bad. They shouldn't be using crossdressing as some <<awful tool of humiliation because ew, nonconformity to the gendernormative code is so disgusting and wrong>>. I think there are better ways of going about it, certainly, but I don't object to "You are not allowed have someone crossdress to laugh at them" as much as I would to "You are not allowed to express yourself through crossdressing".
Yeah, with that added information it seems to me like the sexual assault was a part of the baptism, mixed with the cross-dressing. I remember in middle school we heard a lot of baseless and apocryphal stories about seniors hazing incoming freshmen by making them walk ten feet with a pickle between their ass cheeks, and I imagine that weird stuff like that is what the school is trying to avoid with the ban, but it's really hard to say with so few details.
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Heliomance
I know exactly what you mean about the horrifyingly male hairline :(
I have the beginnings of a thinning hairline and my beard isn't even done coming in yet. But at least I got rid of my hair on my own terms, so it's not quite as painful as it could have been.
(I'm jealous of my dad. He's fifty and his hair has thinned a little but it's still pretty thick and mostly dark. My hair probably won't grey for a long time either, but I should be bald by thirty.)
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@Hazing: It's completely voluntary and not required to join a student society. Besides, our student society's are just associated with what courses you are taking; like mine is one for Maths and Physics. And you're allowed to bail out at any time.
Also the sexual assault wasn't committed by people involved in the hazing itself, it was done by a group of 'allochtonen', which is a Dutch word for immigrants.
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Yeah that's weird. I have no idea. There's a musicians' fraternity at my school; I'm not a member because I don't want to pay for the privilege to be a stagehand, but I know some people in it and it seems like a cool thing in general.
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
I think I'm finally done with reddit by the way; remember the 'transsexism' thing I mentioned? I've been (trying to) educate people in that thread quite a bit and was quite happy with some of the discussion I had. When I woke up earlier almost all my posts where heavily downvoted, even ones that were just about respecting people's identities. Turns out there had been an invasion from r/SRD (Subreddit Drama, basically a subreddit dedicated to pointing out 'drama' in other subreddits) and the thread about in in SRD was filled with denial of discrimination and making fun of the notion of cissexism and all that and it's just, what sort of people go out of their way to do this? Crap like this is why I get tired of trying to educate people. :/
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
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Originally Posted by
Astrella
I think I'm finally done with reddit by the way; remember the 'transsexism' thing I mentioned? I've been (trying to) educate people in that thread quite a bit and was quite happy with some of the discussion I had. When I woke up earlier almost all my posts where heavily downvoted, even ones that were just about respecting people's identities. Turns out there had been an invasion from r/SRD (Subreddit Drama, basically a subreddit dedicated to pointing out 'drama' in other subreddits) and the thread about in in SRD was filled with denial of discrimination and making fun of the notion of cissexism and all that and it's just, what sort of people go out of their way to do this? Crap like this is why I get tired of trying to educate people. :/
From what I hear Reddit has a massive culture of explaining and justifying bigotry and I've seen nothing to disprove that.
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
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Originally Posted by
Astrella
I think I'm finally done with reddit by the way; remember the 'transsexism' thing I mentioned? I've been (trying to) educate people in that thread quite a bit and was quite happy with some of the discussion I had. When I woke up earlier almost all my posts where heavily downvoted, even ones that were just about respecting people's identities. Turns out there had been an invasion from r/SRD (Subreddit Drama, basically a subreddit dedicated to pointing out 'drama' in other subreddits) and the thread about in in SRD was filled with denial of discrimination and making fun of the notion of cissexism and all that and it's just, what sort of people go out of their way to do this? Crap like this is why I get tired of trying to educate people. :/
It's reddit, dawg. You should have known it was trouble when you logged on, so shame on you.
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Faulty
Were you just looking for an excuse to post a Taylor Swift song, now? :smalltongue:
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*Hugs Lena*
Sorry to hear it went badly. It's unfortunate that my experiences with reddit appear to be so atypical. :smallfrown:
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Originally Posted by
noparlpf
From what I hear Reddit has a massive culture of explaining and justifying bigotry and I've seen nothing to disprove that.
I think it may, to some extent, depend on which subreddits you hang out in. It might just be that it doesn't come up, but back when I was using reddit actively the ones I was in didn't seem to have any issues like that.
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Originally Posted by
Astrella
So, a bit of odd news. Apparently student societies in Brussels aren't allowed to have crossdressing at baptisms anymore for an indeterminate period of time because a crossdressing male student got (sexually) assaulted. (the article is a bit unclear about that.) The motivation is apparently that crossdressing is 'provocative' to certain groups, which just sounds really victim blamey.
seriously? that is the most giant bullfeces I have heard. (for reasons allready explored in this thread, just wanted to give my sentiment)
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Originally Posted by
The Succubus
Is this in addition to being lefthanded? :smallamused:
I'd have thought bisexual folks would be ambidextrous with this logic. Not sure how it would work with transitioning folks though.
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Originally Posted by
gunnar11
Well, I'm ambidextruous, and bisexual, so for me it's a match.
Ok, that would make me weird then :smallamused:, I'm ambidextrous (to varying degrees, writing still goes best with right, but steering with left :smalltongue:) and ultimately set on having the monopoly of sticks and stones in the relationship (and by that I mean the romantic, as well as the sexual one) :smallwink:
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Originally Posted by
Astrella
Also the sexual assault wasn't committed by people involved in the hazing itself, it was done by a group of 'allochtonen', which is a Dutch word for immigrants.
Wait, Another Dutchie?
How many Dutchies are there here?
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Originally Posted by
Socratov
Ok, that would make me weird then :smallamused:, I'm ambidextrous (to varying degrees, writing still goes best with right, but steering with left :smalltongue:) and ultimately set on having the monopoly of sticks and stones in the relationship (and by that I mean the romantic, as well as the sexual one) :smallwink:
Is it weird I did not get that?
Could you say it in other words?
Also: I'm thinking of putting an awesome name like Absol's Phoenix on the end of my posts. Any suggestions?
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
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Originally Posted by
gunnar11
Wait, Another Dutchie?
How many Dutchies are there here?
Is it weird I did not get that?
Could you say it in other words?
I'm saying I like girls :smallsigh: (I was trying to be a little bit more subtle about it...), and it was the point of comparing sexuality to right- and left handedness (right referring to heterosexual, left to homosexual, and ambidextrous (as in, the ability to use both hands at any given task (or most fo them anyway) would logically refer to bisexual). Anyway, it was a silly notion anyway.
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Also: I'm thinking of putting an awesome name like Absol's Phoenix on the end of my posts. Any suggestions?
well, usually it's your own name (ar at least the name you will use after transitioning if that's the case) with a fancy color you like :smallamused: However, I'm quite attached to my net anonymity eventhough you can find me with out much effort if you wanted... Fortunately I'm not an enemy of any state :smallbiggrin:
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Originally Posted by
Serpentine
I heard recently about an ad campaign comparing homosexuality with left-handedness. I saw it on a couple of times tonight, and I think it's pretty good. It's not just homosexuality, either: it's gay, bi (iirc), trans and intersexed.
...a few mixed feelings as a sinister person, though :smalltongue:
Hm hm, seen it, thought it was pretty well done.
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Originally Posted by
Absol197
Well, I was going to reply to a bunch of stuff, but then three pages popped up overnight, and so now I won't :smallsmile: .
:smallsigh: I've been feeling very bipolar recently (I'm not actually bipolar, but...you'll see what I mean). It seems like every time I do something that actually makes me feel good, I feel great while I'm doing it, but then the next couple days are spent almost-crying about how unfair it is that something that simple has to be so hard.
As an example: On Friday night, I went to my friends' game night wearing my new skinny jeans, and after we had broken up for the night, I did some limited modeling with some of my other new purchases for one of my girl friends. It was a lot of fun, and I've rarely been that happy about being me.
However, once we had said our good nights and I was back in my car ready to drive home...well, I'm sure you get the idea. I just started coming out of that haze this morning on my way to work :smallfrown: . Having every couple hours of happiness followed by days of melancholy is no fun at all.
Also, as an aside, I hate my stupid broad shoulders. They're stupidly broad.
...Hmm...Well, on the brighter side, I talked to my sister on Saturday night, and (as predicted), she was perfectly fine :smallsmile: . So there's that!
~Phoenix~
*hugs*
Glad your sister reacted well!
Yeah, those moments are really sucky. It's sorta like the more things go well the worse the downy moments are? Like, my dysphoria became more noticeable at the very least once I understood it and has been getting more stingy in bad moments.
One thing that helps is really holding onto those positive moments and using them as a little flame inside to drive away the darkness. :smallsmile:
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Originally Posted by
Selpharia
*hugs*
I know that feeling.
I had my aunt cut my hair after I came out to her, and now if I get it to fall just right it looks pretty feminine. But it keeps falling out of place and now I can't get it back again and all I can see is how horrifyingly male my hairline is. That and I have no one around to teach me all the little tricks of hair styling, which I suppose will be my next youtube research project. Oh and I had to fend off the first inquisition from my mother about the therapist bills since I finally decided to try to get my parents' insurance to cover them. It just feels like everything is fighting me, so that two small steps become a mile. I spent most of yesterday curled into a miserable ball instead of doing the reading and papers that are piling up.
Perhaps the answer is just to do as much of the things that give happiness so the melancholy never has a chance to settle in? That's probably not a practical solution though, even though it is the best one.
I'm glad that your sister was fine with it, more support, especially people close to you, is always nice. Also, hooray new clothes!
~Laura
Aw. :c
I'm sorry to hear it's being so struggle-y. Do your parents know about you being a girl? Also hear you on the hair thing. I think I'm pretty lucky with my hairline itself, but I'm constantly fiddling with it so it falls in the one way it look good and femme-y.
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Originally Posted by
C'nor
*Hugs Lena*
Sorry to hear it went badly. It's unfortunate that my experiences with reddit appear to be so atypical. :smallfrown:
I think it may, to some extent, depend on which subreddits you hang out in. It might just be that it doesn't come up, but back when I was using reddit actively the ones I was in didn't seem to have any issues like that.
I've had good experiences with reddit, I'm just starting to feel it's not really worth the investment trying to get through all the awfulness, especially since I invest way too much emotional energy into it and that lashes back at me.
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Originally Posted by
gunnar11
Wait, Another Dutchie?
How many Dutchies are there here?
Belgian actually. :smalltongue:
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
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Originally Posted by
Socratov
I'm saying I like girls :smallsigh: (I was trying to be a little bit more subtle about it...), and it was the point of comparing sexuality to right- and left handedness (right referring to heterosexual, left to homosexual, and ambidextrous (as in, the ability to use both hands at any given task (or most fo them anyway) would logically refer to bisexual). Anyway, it was a silly notion anyway.
Just to clarify, jokes aside, it wasn't "left = gay right = straight" or anything. It was "homosexuality is as natural as beig left handed, not the 'norm', but certainly not a lifestyle or a choice or something to punish someone for".
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well, usually it's your own name (ar at least the name you will use after transitioning if that's the case) with a fancy color you like :smallamused: However, I'm quite attached to my net anonymity eventhough you can find me with out much effort if you wanted... Fortunately I'm not an enemy of any state :smallbiggrin:
I get a kick out of leaving information in public, saying "you'll forget by the time you need it" and then having people forget my information and ask about it, personally. It's why my iconic RP character just goes by 'the wizard'. You get the introduction once, and if you forget we shake our head and laugh.
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Originally Posted by
SiuiS
Just to clarify, jokes aside, it wasn't "left = gay right = straight" or anything. It was "homosexuality is as natural as beig left handed, not the 'norm', but certainly not a lifestyle or a choice or something to punish someone for".
well, on a tangent, left handed people were thought to have been in league with the devil and hunted down for it (or rehabilitated by nuns and monks into writing right if you know what I mean). so that should give us good hopes for the future (couple of hundred years or something).
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I get a kick out of leaving information in public, saying "you'll forget by the time you need it" and then having people forget my information and ask about it, personally. It's why my iconic RP character just goes by 'the wizard'. You get the introduction once, and if you forget we shake our head and laugh.
It's a good way to incurr the royal 'we'.
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Update with regards to the banning of crossdressing; the university got a strong reaction back form a lot of sources, including several big politicians about how this sends a completely wrong message and that the university should send a clear message about how they made a mistake. So that's pretty neat in the end. :smallsmile:
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Originally Posted by
SiuiS
Just to clarify, jokes aside, it wasn't "left = gay right = straight" or anything. It was "homosexuality is as natural as beig left handed, not the 'norm', but certainly not a lifestyle or a choice or something to punish someone for".
That's how I interpreted it (haven't seen the ad of course) but I didn't want to explain something I haven't seen.
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Originally Posted by
Astrella
Update with regards to the banning of crossdressing; the university got a strong reaction back form a lot of sources, including several big politicians about how this sends a completely wrong message and that the university should send a clear message about how they made a mistake. So that's pretty neat in the end. :smallsmile:
Well, that's good. Hopefully now they'll try to ban assault instead.
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Originally Posted by
Selpharia
*hugs*
I know that feeling.
I had my aunt cut my hair after I came out to her, and now if I get it to fall just right it looks pretty feminine. But it keeps falling out of place and now I can't get it back again and all I can see is how horrifyingly male my hairline is. That and I have no one around to teach me all the little tricks of hair styling, which I suppose will be my next youtube research project. Oh and I had to fend off the first inquisition from my mother about the therapist bills since I finally decided to try to get my parents' insurance to cover them. It just feels like everything is fighting me, so that two small steps become a mile. I spent most of yesterday curled into a miserable ball instead of doing the reading and papers that are piling up.
Perhaps the answer is just to do as much of the things that give happiness so the melancholy never has a chance to settle in? That's probably not a practical solution though, even though it is the best one.
I'm glad that your sister was fine with it, more support, especially people close to you, is always nice. Also, hooray new clothes!
~Laura
Thanks :smallsmile: . It is a good idea, but like you said, not exactly practical. I basically get Friday nights and every other Wednesday. Which isn't nearly enough.
But I'm glad your aunt took things so well, and that you had fun doing some hair styling! I'm trying to grow mine out right now, but it wants to grow down in front o fmy face instead of down in the back. Which is really strange and awkward.
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Originally Posted by
Astrella
I think I'm finally done with reddit by the way; remember the 'transsexism' thing I mentioned? I've been (trying to) educate people in that thread quite a bit and was quite happy with some of the discussion I had. When I woke up earlier almost all my posts where heavily downvoted, even ones that were just about respecting people's identities. Turns out there had been an invasion from r/SRD (Subreddit Drama, basically a subreddit dedicated to pointing out 'drama' in other subreddits) and the thread about in in SRD was filled with denial of discrimination and making fun of the notion of cissexism and all that and it's just, what sort of people go out of their way to do this? Crap like this is why I get tired of trying to educate people. :/
*hugs* I'm sorry, Lena. I know all about those kinds of places, and I've never been able to understand them or the people there. A large number of my housemates in college frequented 4chan. I got a vague glimpse into that world, and I have no desire whatsoever to go to anyplace like that. I much prefer it here, with you guys :smallsmile: !
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Originally Posted by
Socratov
Ok, that would make me weird then :smallamused:, I'm ambidextrous (to varying degrees, writing still goes best with right, but steering with left :smalltongue:) and ultimately set on having the monopoly of sticks and stones in the relationship (and by that I mean the romantic, as well as the sexual one) :smallwink:
...That was an interesting way of saying it, Socratov.
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Originally Posted by
Astrella
*hugs*
Glad your sister reacted well!
Yeah, those moments are really sucky. It's sorta like the more things go well the worse the downy moments are? Like, my dysphoria became more noticeable at the very least once I understood it and has been getting more stingy in bad moments.
One thing that helps is really holding onto those positive moments and using them as a little flame inside to drive away the darkness. :smallsmile:
That's it exactly. When I didn't know who I was, or before I'd tried things out and realized how perfectly they fit, the down moments were just little naggings. Now that I've figured all that stuff out though, every little step backwards feels horrible.
But keeping the happy moments as a flame to keep away the darkness is what I'm trying to do. A lot of my spare brainpower is spent on planning for the next time I get together with my friends, and what I'll wear, and what I'll say. It's something to look forward to in the darker moments.
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Originally Posted by
Astrella
Update with regards to the banning of crossdressing; the university got a strong reaction back form a lot of sources, including several big politicians about how this sends a completely wrong message and that the university should send a clear message about how they made a mistake. So that's pretty neat in the end. :smallsmile:
That's good :smallsmile: . Stories with happy(er) endings are always preferred!
~Phoenix~
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Absol197
...That was an interesting way of saying it, Socratov.
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~Phoenix~
You should ask Mynxae for evidence of my Craft(innuendo) and craft(disturbing mental images) skillmodifiers... :smallamused:
Edit: they are not to be posted in this thread, since they might be breakign the rules regarding the forum. you'll have to take Mynxae's word for it I'm afraid...
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You know, I am really getting tired of the internet in general.
I mean, there are folks like you guys (and gals), that are awesome. You are wonderful beautiful people who have touched me in ways (and places) I didn't think possible anymore.
But then there are just idiots everywhere who think that just because this is the internet, and no one really knows who you are you can say and do whatever you want.
And occasionally people know exactly who you are and it makes the problems of bullying and hat even worse because now its in your home. Where can you go to escape anymore?
Why does anonymity bring out the worst of us?:smallfurious:
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Originally Posted by
Astrella
@Hazing: It's completely voluntary and not required to join a student society. Besides, our student society's are just associated with what courses you are taking; like mine is one for Maths and Physics. And you're allowed to bail out at any time.
Also the sexual assault wasn't committed by people involved in the hazing itself, it was done by a group of 'allochtonen', which is a Dutch word for immigrants.
Okay. I still object to the idea of crossdressing being used as a tool to make someone seem ridiculous, but it's good that the whole thing is in good fun rather than people being cruel to newbies.
ALSO! I think it's so cool that "allochtonen" means immigrants, because in geology, "allochtanous" describes a terrain of rocks that wasn't deposited where it is but has been pushed there by geological activity! The opposite is "autochtanous", where rocks are still found where they were deposited. :smallbiggrin:
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Originally Posted by
Astrella
Update with regards to the banning of crossdressing; the university got a strong reaction back form a lot of sources, including several big politicians about how this sends a completely wrong message and that the university should send a clear message about how they made a mistake. So that's pretty neat in the end. :smallsmile:
Yay! That's good!
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
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Originally Posted by
KenderWizard
Okay. I still object to the idea of crossdressing being used as a tool to make someone seem ridiculous, but it's good that the whole thing is in good fun rather than people being cruel to newbies.
It is good to hear baptisms there are generally in good fun. I'm used to hearing about US frat hazing horror stories.
But that crossdressing is for humiliation is kind of unhappy.
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ALSO! I think it's so cool that "allochtonen" means immigrants, because in geology, "allochtanous" describes a terrain of rocks that wasn't deposited where it is but has been pushed there by geological activity! The opposite is "autochtanous", where rocks are still found where they were deposited. :smallbiggrin:
Same etymology, no doubt. Etymology is really neat. Handy, too, for figuring out what words mean.
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
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Originally Posted by
Lentrax
Why does anonymity bring out the worst of us?:smallfurious:
Depends. I know I'm less polite and open to people IRL. The first part is taken care of by this forum's rules. As for the second, that's because we're all mutually anonymous, so I can afford speaking my true mind, have more control over the subject being discussed, and just walk away when someone says something I don't agree with. It's odd, but I grow to dislike people much faster when I have to put up with opinions I dislike in a regular basis. :smallamused:
I guess I have more decency than the average. I know you're all real persons and have no reason to assume you're the kinds of people I purposefully avoid, so I am civil. That's normal. Perhaps I'm better-socialized than most people on the Internet, although I certainly see the appeal of embracing the Great Internet F[ragBag] Theory. :smallbiggrin:
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
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Originally Posted by
Lentrax
You know, I am really getting tired of the internet in general.
I mean, there are folks like you guys (and gals), that are awesome. You are wonderful beautiful people who have touched me in ways (and places) I didn't think possible anymore.
But then there are just idiots everywhere who think that just because this is the internet, and no one really knows who you are you can say and do whatever you want.
And occasionally people know exactly who you are and it makes the problems of bullying and hat even worse because now its in your home. Where can you go to escape anymore?
Why does anonymity bring out the worst of us?:smallfurious:
I really don't know. Maybe it was just the way I was raised, or maybe it's something intrinsic in my mindset, but I can't help but put myself in everyone else's shoes, and if I would see my words or actions causing someone harm, I won't do it. That's why I avoid those infamously bad places - I don't want to deal with people who act like that.
At least you can take solice in the fact that not everybody acts like that when given anonymity :smallsmile: . Some of us choose to remain decent human beings.
~Phoenix~