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Re: The Index Reloaded --- (Index of the Giant's Comments II)
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Re: The Index Reloaded --- (Index of the Giant's Comments II)
For what it's worth, if people were (like me) using the trick of a google search that looked for "the drive is over", or similar, to peek in from time to time for Giant posts... yeah, looks like he isn't using that signature consistently anymore.
Noticed him jump in on a thread I was watching just today and it wasn't there.
Back to relying on the (really great!) work done by this thread to more methodically hand-pick what is indexed, in order for me to find out the Giant's $.02 on OOTS...
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Re: The Index Reloaded --- (Index of the Giant's Comments II)
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Originally Posted by
Spoomeister
For what it's worth, if people were (like me) using the trick of a google search that looked for "the drive is over", or similar, to peek in from time to time for Giant posts... yeah, looks like he isn't using that signature consistently anymore.
Noticed him jump in on a thread I was watching just today and it wasn't there.
Really? That's... weird. I mean, yes, you can post without the signature (behold!) but it takes an active click. Was it an OotS thread?
Grey Wolf
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Re: The Index Reloaded --- (Index of the Giant's Comments II)
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Originally Posted by
ThePhantasm
Which post?
No post. I believe it was an attempt at humor at the expense of those who might wish to make exceptions to the rule.
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Re: The Index Reloaded --- (Index of the Giant's Comments II)
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Originally Posted by
Spoomeister
For what it's worth, if people were (like me) using the trick of a google search that looked for "the drive is over", or similar, to peek in from time to time for Giant posts... yeah, looks like he isn't using that signature consistently anymore.
Noticed him jump in on a thread I was watching just today and it wasn't there.
Back to relying on the (really great!) work done by this thread to more methodically hand-pick what is indexed, in order for me to find out the Giant's $.02 on OOTS...
*checks*
It's still there. I think he might have changed his sig slightly (I think it is slightly different than before) and maybe you just happened to catch a post whilst he was updating it.
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Originally Posted by
Porthos
*checks*
It's still there. I think he might have changed his sig slightly (I think it is slightly different than before) and maybe you just happened to catch a post whilst he was updating it.
I don't think it's changed. But I have just noticed the superfluous "the".
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Re: The Index Reloaded --- (Index of the Giant's Comments II)
He changed his sig to announce the new ornaments, t-shirts, etc. Not a big deal, I'll fix the Google Search link in the next update (which I'll be getting to soon).
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Would his comment that the Calendar will include the name of Book 5 count for inclusion, even on a temporary timeframe?
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Re: The Index Reloaded --- (Index of the Giant's Comments II)
Maybe there should be a special section for quotes of temporary significance? We've had a couple of those quotes come and go. Once they become irrelevant or redundant I could just remove them from the temporary section, so we wouldn't need to vote on each one to be removed.
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Re: The Index Reloaded --- (Index of the Giant's Comments II)
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Originally Posted by
ThePhantasm
Maybe there should be a special section for quotes of temporary significance? We've had a couple of those quotes come and go. Once they become irrelevant or redundant I could just remove them from the temporary section, so we wouldn't need to vote on each one to be removed.
This is a really good idea. Maybe put them near the top of the thread?
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If you want to manage a temporal addition list, sure, I would think it is a nice addition.
Another candidate for said list would be some of the Kickstarter announcement stuff. From top of my head from time to time the question about the Kickstarter cameo reward pops up. I don't have a quote ready, but I'm pretty sure the Giant commented on it being unmissable and probably even news-worthy. (I will try to support a link if no one can find it, but right now I don't have the time to search)
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Re: The Index Reloaded --- (Index of the Giant's Comments II)
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Originally Posted by
ThePhantasm
Maybe there should be a special section for quotes of temporary significance? We've had a couple of those quotes come and go. Once they become irrelevant or redundant I could just remove them from the temporary section, so we wouldn't need to vote on each one to be removed.
I think this is a good idea.
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Re: The Index Reloaded --- (Index of the Giant's Comments II)
It seems as if the Google query should be updated to:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site...dr:y%2Csbd%3A1
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Looks like we may need both. That query is only returning posts since he changed his sig.
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Shale
Looks like we may need both. That query is only returning posts since he changed his sig.
Well, that's unfortunate.
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Re: The Index Reloaded --- (Index of the Giant's Comments II)
I was browsing old threads and found something interesting that we may not have: the comic's stick figures began as miniatures.
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Hogwarts9876
That's too vague to add, I think.
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But fun that he actually did make the mini-standin's for us!
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ti'esar
That's too vague to add, I think.
I don't see why...? Before there was OotS the comic, the stick figures were cheap miniature substitutes. Seems like an important bit of OotS prehistory to me.
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There was, at one point, a very detailed written backstory on how it all started as a bunch of miniatures. Where was that? Was that part of the commentary of one of the books, or something?
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The Linker
Where was that? Was that part of the commentary of one of the books, or something?
I think it was in the commentary pages of 'Dungeon Crawlin' Fools'. Which would make sense, I guess.
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Definitely add that, since to someone who doesn't play D&D, resurrection makes dying of old age confusing. Good to have it spelled out what OOTS uses, rather than trying to guesstimate what constitutes no res and what doesn't.
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NerdyKris
Definitely add that, since to someone who doesn't play D&D, resurrection makes dying of old age confusing. Good to have it spelled out what OOTS uses, rather than trying to guesstimate what constitutes no res and what doesn't.
I don't know about that. I've never played D&D and I had no trouble with the concept.
There's no real reason to suppose everyone in the world is effectively immortal if they have access to resurrection.
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Originally Posted by
orrion
I don't know about that. I've never played D&D and I had no trouble with the concept.
There's no real reason to suppose everyone in the world is effectively immortal if they have access to resurrection.
Sure there is. Is Resurrection can reverse the cause of death and render it a non-issue, then by that logic even old age as we know it should be curable by it. There are some context clues in the comic that hints that it happens without reference to how or why, but there could be no harm in adding it to the quotes.
Plus, it's kind of neat information to have.
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Nightsbridge
Sure there is. Is Resurrection can reverse the cause of death and render it a non-issue, then by that logic even old age as we know it should be curable by it. There are some context clues in the comic that hints that it happens without reference to how or why, but there could be no harm in adding it to the quotes.
Plus, it's kind of neat information to have.
The counter to this is that Rich is not explaining something exclusively about OotS. He is just clarifying D&D rules that already exist (and that Kish, I should add, had already quoted correctly, but the poster who kept insisting that real life rules about sickness and death should apply to D&D worlds simply ignored).
We don't need an entry of the Giant explaining that resurrection doesn't cure death by old age. The same can be accomplished by linking to the relevant D20 page.
Grey Wolf
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The biggest issue I see is that "old age" isn't a cause of death in the real world. Organ failure is what causes it. Your heart stops beating, or you have a seizure, or something else just quits out on you. There's no set lifespan in real life. You could theoretically live hundreds of years hooked up to a machine. (but it would be expensive and painful)
By the standards of a fantasy universe, there's no practical difference between organ failure and that organ being, say, stabbed. So there has to be a reason why a regeneration spell doesn't just replace the failed organ and bam, they're back up and running. So the quote is a word of the author what prevents such a tactic from working. Especially since we've had several threads lately pointing out characters who have apparently died young (50-60ish) and not been raised (Hinjo's mother and Roy's mother) while Eugene was shown to have been raised multiple times.
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Originally Posted by
Grey_Wolf_c
The counter to this is that Rich is not explaining something exclusively about OotS. He is just clarifying D&D rules that already exist (and that Kish, I should add, had already quoted correctly, but the poster who kept insisting that real life rules about sickness and death should apply to D&D worlds simply ignored).
We don't need an entry of the Giant explaining that resurrection doesn't cure death by old age. The same can be accomplished by linking to the relevant D20
page.
Grey Wolf
This quote isn't significant because of an explanation that resurrection doesn't cure death by old age. It's significant because it states that death by old age is a literal thing, and that people in OOTSverse die of old age on their birthday. That isn't remotely obvious; I thought that the very idea was ridiculous before The Giant stepped in with this post.
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Originally Posted by
Nightsbridge
Sure there is. Is Resurrection can reverse the cause of death and render it a non-issue, then by that logic even old age as we know it should be curable by it. There are some context clues in the comic that hints that it happens without reference to how or why, but there could be no harm in adding it to the quotes.
Plus, it's kind of neat information to have.
Resurrection restores you to your previous state, before whatever killed you occurred. So if you resurrected someone who died of old age they would just immediately die of old age again.
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Originally Posted by
Emanick
This quote isn't significant because of an explanation that resurrection doesn't cure death by old age. It's significant because it states that death by old age is a literal thing, and that people in OOTSverse die of old age on their birthday. That isn't remotely obvious; I thought that the very idea was ridiculous before The Giant stepped in with this post.
To me it's quite obvious that people die of old age.
Not everyone is an adventurer, so something has to kill off the common people eventually.
Are you suggesting that everyone in a dnd setting contracts deadly diseases at some point, or that there are groups of people running around just slaughtering everyone to make way for new generations? Or do you think that everyone is just immortal? Can you explain to me how these scenarios - or whatever scenario you came up with to explain how people die - are somehow less ridiculous than the idea of dying of old age?