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Ink goes to the tavern since the walrus man has promised free drinks.
Alec punches his fist in the air, and shouts his happiness into the air. He happily take Altharis up on his offer of a drink, before going back to his house with a spring in his step.
*Has a big party, bakes cookies, parties almost all night long, has a great band planned.*
*Comes home completely Pisssshed!*
Ugh. Did multiple days go by? I was in a coma or something. ((or unable to post. That one more likely. I keep going to bed instead of posting.))
Hey look, a dead wolf. Neat. I guess the village is slightly safer. Time to go get irresponsibly drunk for no particular reason just like every good villager after something good happens. ((no actual weight to that one, just failing to be funny. ugh.))
What should I do when I sober up? Probably go unconscious for a week. I hear it's a new tradition starting up. Hello random drunk person! did you formerly used to be Blood, or are you just so drunk you look like him? Nevermind, I'll just get drunk enough everything looks like a frilly pink elephant. The joy of lynching wolves!
Okay folks - I've been waffling back and forth on making this post for a few reasons - not the least of which is the fact that whenever someone tries to defend themselves in Werewolf, it seems almost inevitably they get lynched instead. But I feel the need to address a few issues vis a vis both my posts and Xire's interpretation of said posts, so I'm just going to have to take the chance.
I'd like to thank you, Xire for your heartfelt attempts to associate me with a wolf by some sort of blind-man's bluff. As you noted in your private message (the one I got when I got home from work and thus didn't even get to read until after the lynch for the night had already occured), I am new to the game - or more accurately, I am new to the net version of the game. I'm much more familair with the live version with about 10-20 people; wherein turns happen in quick succession so the events of work and life don't have a chance to drive things out of memory. I'm glad that your memory for such things is so very keen; I however, am not so fortunate; things that are insignificant to me (like the results of a vote held more than two days ago in which I wasn't even close to danger) don't linger in my mind well unless I'm forced to dwell on them. So yeah, when it was initially said that I'd been pointed to, I denied it - because I had no recollection of being accused _within the prior day_. Had I stopped long enough to consider the matter, I would have checked back to day 1, and then my initial reply would have been, obviously, substantially altered. Also, as Lucky pointed out, before the list edits, I was, in fact, #26 on the list, and as further pointed out, there is code on the boards designed to make cheating a die roll quite difficult; which weighs evidence once again on the theory of Tormskull having actually done this randomly as he stated.
However, that is not the way things went down, and because of that, you seem to have become convinced that I am playing the role of one of the werewolves.
So yes, I took steps to defend my record that turned out to be incorrect due to my own faulty memory. I would like to hope otherwise, but if that is sufficent evidence for you to banner me up as a werewolf, then there is nothing I can do beyond presenting my case to stop that. Having done this now, I am going to leave the matter quiet unless someone asks pertinent questions that I can answer.
~ Helgraf
I think you miss my point. If Tormsskull does a die roll, he has to submit the post to get the result. He then would need to go count down the list to find out he was pointing at, and THEN EDIT HIS POST! There was no edit. He can't get the number and enter the name that corresponds to that number IN THE SAME POST without editing it.
You may be right about the fact that it is difficult to fake a die roll. Let's try it myself (this may take a few practise runs/edits).
Here's a real roll: [1d50]
EDIT: Second attempt: [roll]1d50[/roll]
Here's a fake: [1d50]13
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EDIT:
Ok, so the fake worked fine first time but I got the syntax for the real roll wrong. Also, lucky, how come when you quoted Tormsskull it came out as [roll0] but when I quoted your supposedly "real" die roll it came out exactly as you wrote it. There is something decidedly fishy going on here, and I am starting to have serious distrust for you. You are arguing very heavily to save Helgraf, who has been suspicious in my eyes, and now your arguments don't add up either.
Right, here goes:
Real: [roll0]
Fake: (1d50)[13]
And now quoted. We'll see how this turns out. If they both say [roll0] then I'm absolutely 100% correct and Tormsskull faked his die roll.
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EDIT:
Ok, so we have the following options:
1) Tormsskull did in fact, somehow that I cannot figure out, fake his die roll in a much better way than me so that when quoted it appears as [roll0].
2)Tormsskull faked the die roll and Lucky altered Tormsskull's text when quoting it.
3) Somehow that I can't figure out, Tormsskull did a real die roll AND managed to see the result before submitting his post so that he could then enter Helgraf's name.
Well I can test theory 2.
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EDIT:EDIT:
Well I tested theory 2 and it looks like a real die roll (when I quoted Tormsskull's post myself it came out as [roll0]). So it looks like theory 1 or 3 is true.
*The fairy hovers about the corpse of the werewolf and hollers at LLink.*
"This is a werewolf. You'll have to hit it with your sword a few times. Its really tough."
*The llama looks on frustrated.* "It's gonna take me a long time to fix the recorder and get out of here. We should try to help this village out with their werewolf problem. Damn it all that I don't have the silver arrow yet and the Master Sword isn't the right material. Let's get to sleep somewhere."
*The fairy flies over Jontom*
"This looks like some kind of demon. It seems civilized, though. Maybe its a lumberjack."
"Gah! Navi! That's really rude. Let's go."
*The llama and his "sidekick" head to the inn*
Actually, this is all just new things with the board software. If you edit within the first (5)? minutes after you post, it won't appear as an edit.
... That's because I just wrote how I remembered a real roll to work, in order to show a 26. I didn't mean to imply that I actually rolled.Quote:
Ok, so the fake worked fine first time but I got the syntax for the real roll wrong. Also, lucky, how come when you quoted Tormsskull it came out as [roll0] but when I quoted your supposedly "real" die roll it came out exactly as you wrote it. There is something decidedly fishy going on here, and I am starting to have serious distrust for you. You are arguing very heavily to save Helgraf, who has been suspicious in my eyes, and now your arguments don't add up either.
Honestly, why would I even bother faking that die roll? It makes no sense, the die rolled meant nothing. There was no point in tricking people into thinking I rolled.
I value a lot of your theories, don't get me wrong, you are a good player, but this just seems like your grasping for people to lynch someone that you tell them to. Perhaps the sign of a wolf?
Of course, this would required you to have sold out one of your own, but assuming people fall for it, it would have a clear upside in doing so. Remove you of any suspect, and insure that will not be lynched, taking you right to the end, where you could always lean on the fact that you found a wolf when in an argument in who to lynch.
I don't necessarily believe this myself, but you do seem quite desperate at the moment.
Really? That would explain it then.
Thanks for the info.
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Edited it as a test.
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EDIT:EDIT:
Ok, tested and Lucky is right. So that makes my option 3 correct and Helgraf is off the hook as far as I'm concerned.
Lucky, I'm not desperate, but I'm a control-freak, super-logical, perfectionist. And I just wanted to entirely rule out my theory based on facts, not hearsay, that I proved to my own satisfaction.
So the theory why Tormsskull was a wolf is still valid from the point that he DIDN'T jump on the bandwagon, but Helgraf is off the hook in that he does in fact appear to have been randomly chosen, and Tormsskull wasn't just doing an El J.
Doing an El J? :smalltongue:What's that?
It's when you try to frame your own team to make yourself (or other undisclosed members of your team) look better overall and remove suspicion from yourself.
El J did it as a mason; Xire seemed to think Tormskull did it to detract attention from me as a possible werewolf ... I think.
It's nearly 6 am here and I should have been to sleep 3 hours ago, so I'm a touch foggy at the moment.
Day 3 Begins
As written by the wolves:
A truly gruesome scene greets the first villagers upon exiting their homes. The corpse of Jontom Xire has been propped up in the middle of the village square. One wold almost mistake the dead schemer as an early riser save for two things: the glossed over eyes which are still open and staring, and the wicked twist of his shoulder joints that seems macabre and unnatural. It seems both of Jontom Xire's arms have been twisted behind him severely and a missive clawed between the bloody stumps where his wings used to attach to his torso. "Thought we'd give his biggest fan easier access to his own back."
A search of Jontom's corpse reveals a Yin-Yang symbol tattoo.
Jontom Xire, a villager and the Monk, was killed by wolves.
Day 3 ends at 1:00 PM Monday. Be there or be square. Sorry, that was corny.
So thats why he was so concerned about wqhat the Monks advantages were...
Anyway, Krystal Tiger, as my prime suspect for now... A pointing finger goes your way. Due to your vehement defence of a known wolf.
*Points at Krystal Tiger*
Blood walks out of his house with his daily cup of coffee and heads to the town square, wondering who will be dead today...
As he sees the mutilated corpse, he nearly drops his coffee in his rush to cover his eyes. "I'm so scared. I don't want to die!!" Blood peeks between his fingers at the crowd. "We have to stop those stupid wolves!" His finger rests on King of Griffins and Gralamin for a moment, but then switches over to Krystal Tiger. "You defended the wolves. We must kill them all, or die ourselves! Make a choice, citizens!"
The whispy ghost of Jontom Xire wisps (as whispy ghosts are won't to do) through the village.
"I knew it", whispers the whispy ghost, "Such talent as mine was too good to be left alive".
/OOC. Now I just need to learn how to bring my skill to bear without a) bragging (although bragging usually refers to innacurate boasting, and let's face it, I rock), and b) becoming a target.
((posting may be a little intermittant for the next few days))
Church walks out. "Wow, I slept throught the day and the night? YES! We got a wolf! It's a Christmas Miracle!"
Decken's ghost appears. He doesn't look happy.
"Pie Cuthbert Domine,
Dona eis requiem."
*Ceika stepped out into the sunlight and stretched. Upon seeing Jontom's body displayed as it was, she closed her eyes momentarily, muttering a quick prayer for his passing.*
This is sick! We cannot allow this kind of thing to continue! Now they're just taunting us!
*With that, Ceika takes his body down to give a proper burial to a brother in the guard.*
Mal exits his house yawning, holding a cup, which is promptly fulled by his breakfast after he sees the scene...
Un..hoooooly CRAP!! i-gods-may...
he promtly covers his mouth and attempts to regain composture, on which he succedes, at least, for now...
...welll...pretty sick from their part to leave him with the eyes like that... ....
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...i'm trying to look away...b-but i can't....some help? p-please?
Mal keeps staring at Xire's eyes, while sweating cold
((i think i've seen too much "grounded for life"...:smalltongue: ))
*Ahem*
*Points to Gnome Barbarian
Church glances at Lucky. "Lucky? Why Gnome Barbarian? You haven't said anything for a while, and certainly nothing incrimiating him."
"Ah, now I see. Your arguement is persuasive. I believe that you are correct, and that Gnome Barbarian was not only too quick to vote, but also did support a known werewolf. Krystal didn't jump the gun like he did, and therefore has less suspicion from me, though it isn't gone." Points at Gnome Barbarian.
The ghosts stares at Ceika, thinking for a moment.
"Wait.. I was never buried! I demand a proper burial!"
(Oh, sorry Lucky, didn't see thatr post. Note edit: Points at Gnome Barbarian)
*finishing up Jontom's Burial, Ceika rejoins the group.*
Good point, Church... What do you have agains Gnome Barbarian, Lucky?
*Tries to remember what all has happened (i.e., looks back through the thread)*
Then again, he did bandwagon against Gezina, come to think of it... and if memory serves, he also went after Jontom Xire as well... both of whom we now know to be villagers...
*Ceika carefully considers this information then points at gnome Barbarian*
You're reasonings seem sensible enough...
*Raldor points at Gnome Barbarian
Flabbicus exits his abode.
Wow! After being converted into an illithid overnight I see things in a different light! Gnome Barbarian, your ragey ways are done!
*Tentacle point for Gnome Barbarian
King hops down from the top of the Taverns roof. He kicks up dirt as he rolls upon hitting the ground, and upon standing up dusts himself off.
"I would like to point out my suspicions for today with an occurance from last night."
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Blood walks out of the tavern still occupied by El J, Ms E and probably others, quite drunk. He walks up to the gallows, giggling madly. Then he looks solemn. "A good wolf wush kill'd t'night." He bursts out laughing and splashes an ale across his face.
"I should also point out that Blood is consistently on edge. While I agree that so is much of the village, he is almost hopelessly erratic. Those who are villagers, and thus innocent, stand only to fear during the night, when there is danger, while any wolf would be constantly worried during the day due to the collective actions of the villigers, and to the actions of any outstanding individuals during the night. So for these two reason," *Points at Blood*, "I beleive blood is a werewolf."
While I'd like to see more arguement from both Blood and GRiffins as to why neither of them are wolves, Lucky has given a good point that I too had noticed.
*Kyrian points at Gnome Barbarian.
You all make interesting points, and I really don't have too much to contribute. ((Because I haven't been fully involved in this session))
* B-Man points at Gnome Barbarian.
* TheRabidWalnut believes it was Krystal_Tiger, in the night, with the teeth. Gome Barbarian, whilst a fine shifty eyed suspect, was not so quick to attempt to divert suspicion.
El Jaspero pours another round of ale.
"While the Gnome Barbarian is a tricky little bugger...I find that other critter acting stranger every day."
*El J points his banjo at Blood*
I'll go with Lucky on this one.
Apologies, I haven't been able to put a lot of concentration into this one.
I think I've taken too much on ;-)
evnafets points at Gnome Barbarian
Exachix wanders out of the Tavern and watches, quietly, at the accusations.
"Isnt ti alittle crazy for everyone to start pointing at me because I took objection to lucky putting me on a list of possible wolves. If anyone else was put on a list they would have done the same thing. Also I believe it is possible that Lucky is just pointing em out to bring suspicioin away from himself for the first day people pointed at him and now he is trying to make people forget that. I am an innoncet villager and if you send em to be hung you will learn this and I hope that someone tells Lucky "I Told You So" as he did to all of us when we accidently lynched a vilalger on day two. I beleive the wolves killed Jontom because I pointed at him yesterday and this is their way to make you point at me."
I was on the same list, I flat out ignored it.
These lists have a tendency to spring up, I think I've been on at least one every single game, and not been a wolf.
If you know you aren't a wolf, you can probably afford to ignore the list, since your behaviour won't warrant further suspicion. Attempting to defend yourself from it is jumping the gun a bit at least, and as has been shown, over defensiveness and counterattacking is the hall mark of the wolvish defence.
admitedly im a little lost as to whats happened thus far.
veecher points at gnome barbarian.
Hmmm....a bandwagon? no thanks for now....too early for me...
i have suspicions on Blood, too. but i'd prefer to let him defend himself before i decide to point at someone....
Ilaissa comes out of her house, and look at at the corpse, then quickly russes inside, and vomiting nosies can be heard inside. When she finaley ermearges, her wings are presed tight against her, as though she is worried about her wings well being.
She opens her mouth to talk, then thinks better of it, sundly remembering what happened last time. points at gnome barbarian
she then walks back into her house, muttering: So defending yourself from being killed makes you a werewolf, hm? she sighs and starts digging thougth her dragon hourd, looking for her biggest sappire to comfert her.
Zira stays out side, and will talk for Ilaissa if anyone wants to have her defend herself.
Church looks at Gnome Barbarian shrewdly. "Selhrac is right. Trying to divert attention from yourself by pinning blame on someone else seems pretty wolfish."
I too agree that Gnome Barbarian is a good suspect, however Blood is also very suspicious. Notice that he once again was about to point at me, And I ask him: Why me? You've never given any evidence, just pointed at me. I would like to know the reason.
Until then I willPoint at Blood,though I will change if he can give me a good reason.
*Death points to blood*
There are two obvious targets at the moment, and Blood seems more likely, random pointing is frowned upon.
I trust Lucky on this one
*point at Gnome Barbarian*
"Well I trust that you are all wrong and I hope that you are all lynched because of it. Every last one of you. My ghost will avenge me once you have put an innocent villager to death because you followed the werewolf lucky."
*Gnome Barbarian points at Lucky
Quite possibly.
This is where I must stop you. It was a list. Not a single name, there were others on the list, many others, and only you spoke up.Quote:
If anyone else was put on a list they would have done the same thing.
Forget? Possible, but what do you want me to do?Quote:
Also I believe it is possible that Lucky is just pointing em out to bring suspicioin away from himself for the first day people pointed at him and now he is trying to make people forget that.
HEY EVERYONE! Five people voted for me on Day 1!!!
Is that better?I hope they do, I had it coming anyways.Quote:
I am an innoncet villager and if you send em to be hung you will learn this and I hope that someone tells Lucky "I Told You So" as he did to all of us when we accidently lynched a vilalger on day two.
We'll see.Quote:
I beleive the wolves killed Jontom because I pointed at him yesterday and this is their way to make you point at me."
And now I become sure in my conviction, Wolf Tactics 101. Have a good hanging.
"Also in Wolf Tactics 101 get the village to hang one of their own and you are doing an excellent job at it bravo...bravo wolfie...I mean Lucky. I say as a village we hang you and if you are not a wolfthe rest of the village can hang me and we will have a double hanging tonight because I am 100% sure that I am not a wolf and Im getting more sure every minute that you are"
Lucky's arguments are solid. that is exactly what a wolf does. while I am hesitant to jump on a bandwagon, I think this one is headed in the right direction.
Raven points at Gnome barbarian
Blood looks flabbergasted. "Me? A werewolf? You're all insane!" He looks at King of Griffins. "At that point, I was drunk. I had no idea what I was doing. You're just looking for revenge because I pointed to you earlier for voting so early." He turns to El J and Malmagor. "Oh? Care to say what I've been doing that's so suspicious??" Blood gives Gralamin a solemn look. "My deepest apologies. You immediately jumped on King of Griffins's early bandwagon, so I assumed you were also trying to do us all in. After listening to you since then, I have revised my opinion." Blood finally looks to Death. "If I had jumped on a bandwagon instead, wouldn't you be just as suspicious?"
Blood turns to the whole crowd, nearly raving. "We are trying to get rid of the murdering werewolves that mutilate one of us every night! We are not trying to kill innocent villagers!"
"I do hope you get whats coming to you lucky...."
With that he begins to walk to the gallows.
Let's hope it's something good...
"Lucky, I'm beginning to fell sorry I accused you in the first round for being a wagon-hoping spazmatic who only wanted a random lynching. You've made many good points and it would appear you have made a wolf lose his cool in great proportion," he watches as Gnome walks to the gallows, "though I'd like to retain the ability to retract that last statement."
"Now, Blood, let me tell you my further thoughts which I believe are akin to Luckys, which rise on the topic of Innocence and Defensiveness. Now, the innocent should require no defense, as being innocent they should not be capable of being proven guilty, however! This is not a perfect world, and so it is required that the innocent make some testimony. It serves that in the lack of physical evidence that the actions of others be taken into account to divide the innocent and the guilty. The innocent, not feeling guilty as they know they are not, would need only provide the smallest amount of rhetoric to prevent a false verdict, however! The guilty, in an attempt to render a false verdict, would be quick and defensive of himself, his words and actions. His focus would be highly split while attempting to deflect every suspicion, which in the case of the innocent would be a non-worthwhile pursuit. I believe from your erratic actions and defensive stances that you stand likely to be a werewolf."
"As for being accused by you, I do not care. I know I am innocent and hold nothing against any who may accuse me falsely. I hope you understand all of this as well, Joosbawx."
"A Wolf hasn't lost his cool a villager who is being falsly accused has... and remember tomorrow Lucky whether you are villager or wolf you will be high on the suspect list and you will feel exactly as I feel right now. Or maybe you will get the fate tonight that you deserve and the wolves will coem for you in your sleep"
"I am rather confused by all these accusations... but I have to point at somebody I guess."
* Ink points at Gnome Barbarian
"I got an idea lets make this day completly useless and have everyone point at me so that way when people try to figure out who wolves are based on other peoples votes they see that everyoen voted for a villager."
Alec entres the square, and at the sight of the corpse, looks about as sick as he did yesterday. "Those sick bastards." he says under his breath. He listens to the arguments, and then *alec points at Gnome Barbarian*