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That's a good point, Worlok. By not ordering them not to attack, Lloyd might as well have given the order to attack. :smalleek:
Sitting back and letting evil things happen isn't neutral - its just as bad, since you do nothing to stop it. And Lloyd did nothing to stop this... :smallsigh:
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True again. Sure, one might argue that it was simply a moment's reaction on the team being attacked. Still nothing to be proud of and certainly a reason to not go into detail about it.
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Guess it's better that the last panel was blacked out. Knowing what Lloyd and his comrades did was bad enough without seeing it (or most of it). What really disturbed me here was the third panel. Am I misinterpreting his comment, or is Lloyd looking for an excuse to attack?
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I presume the "and..." was going to be followed by something along the lines of "they're unarmed and killing civilians is bad."
Say, is Lloyd frowning at the archer for killing the kid or at the drows for "attacking?"
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Lycan 01
That's a good point, Worlok. By not ordering them not to attack, Lloyd might as well have given the order to attack. :smalleek:
Sitting back and letting evil things happen isn't neutral - its just as bad, since you do nothing to stop it. And Lloyd did nothing to stop this... :smallsigh:
Exactly.
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RdMarquis
Guess it's better that the last panel was blacked out. Knowing what Lloyd and his comrades did was bad enough without seeing it (or most of it). What really disturbed me here was the third panel. Am I misinterpreting his comment, or is Lloyd looking for an excuse to attack?
Was Lloyd looking for an excuse to attack? Not actively...
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Discord
I presume the "and..." was going to be followed by something along the lines of "they're unarmed and killing civilians is bad."
Say, is Lloyd frowning at the archer for killing the kid or at the drows for "attacking?"
He's frowning at the drows.
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CoffeeIncluded
Was Lloyd looking for an excuse to attack? Not actively...
I think he was more looking for a rationalization to feel justified in butchering unharmed innocents having their lands stolen.
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He's frowning at the drows.
Well, I guess we know who ordered to attack then.
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Die Drows! die!
thats the way i like paladins!
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I like my paladins humble. (Also I have a sneaking suspicion that paladins don't have alignment restrictions)
As for drow i like the one who got away.
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super dark33
Die Drows! die!
thats the way i like paladins!
Are you being sarcastic?
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I like my paladins humble. (Also I have a sneaking suspicion that paladins don't have alignment restrictions)
As for drow i like the one who got away.
Yeah, exactly. Though these paladins have to be Lawful Good. Except that now in Kago it's an emphasis on Lawful, and Good can piss off when it comes to Plavaan.
And on the nature of justice and pretty much all of Kago:
Old Lloyd and most of Kago: I AM JUSTICE!!!
New Lloyd: I represent Justice.
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CoffeeIncluded
Yeah, exactly. Though these paladins have to be Lawful Good. Except that now in Kago it's an emphasis on Lawful, and Good can piss off when it comes to Plavaan.
So they only have to be lawful ? or the divine power backing them just let it slide with the victims are Plavaan ? (which raises other questions)
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Anterean
or the divine power backing them just let it slide with the victims are Plavaan ? (which raises other questions)
See the backstory with Astrid and the Alavaan gods.
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That implies that Astrid is not as good and/or pure as you have made us believe... I mean she does have some reason to be so revenge driven.. but I don't know.. I think we need more info to really comment on that.
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CoffeeIncluded
See the backstory with Astrid and the Alavaan gods.
I did see those, still raises the question why a supposedly good godess does not make it clear to her followers that she does not want them to hold the plavaan responsible for the actions of their deities.
Unless ofcourse she approves, but then is she really good ? or are the plavaan really as innocent we are being told ?
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Being good doesn't mean having absolutely no vice. It means being generally good as well as trying to be as good as you can be. Someone who'd lay down their life to protect the helpless is still good even if they wouldn't protect one specific race because they hate it. They're not perfect, but still good.
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It may just be me, but I think its fair to hold deities to a bit higher standard than mortals. Otherwise I would agree with you Discord
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It may just be me, but I think its fair to hold deities to a bit higher standard than mortals. Otherwise I would agree with you Discord
In D&D, Gods are usually as short sighted and narrowminded as their followers.
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Not all Good Deities are "good" in all regards. Sometimes they have boughts of RIGHTEOUS FURY and stuff like that. And sometimes, their followers get a bit obsessed with that RIGHTEOUS FURY and start to focus mainly on it, rather than the other "good" stuff. I mean, shoot, look at Warhammer 40,000. The God-Emperor of Mankind was/is Lawful Good, but it can be argued that most of his followers are Lawful Evil because of what lengths they go to in their devotion. :smalleek:
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Lycan 01
Not all Good Deities are "good" in all regards. Sometimes they have boughts of RIGHTEOUS FURY and stuff like that. And sometimes, their followers get a bit obsessed with that RIGHTEOUS FURY and start to focus mainly on it, rather than the other "good" stuff. I mean, shoot, look at Warhammer 40,000. The God-Emperor of Mankind was/is Lawful Good, but it can be argued that most of his followers are Lawful Evil because of what lengths they go to in their devotion. :smalleek:
It could also be that they're not doing quite enough to fall to evil, and neutral is one step within Astrids good alignment, so It can work. For clerics at least.
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All will be explained in time. :smallbiggrin:
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CoffeeIncluded
All will be explained in time. :smallbiggrin:
You're the one who said you enjoy rampant speculation. :smallwink::smallbiggrin:
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Marnath
You're the one who said you enjoy rampant speculation. :smallwink::smallbiggrin:
I know! I wanna see where you guys are gonna take it!
*Takes out recorder* So, continue...:smallbiggrin:
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Thought it was fitting. :smallwink:
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My new favorite theory is that Lloyd falls for this slaughter, and the path to redemption took him a while. :smallsmile:
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Discord, that is great.
And is it wrong that I want to see more pictures of Serrin in all her hyperactive glory?
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Lycan 01
Not all Good Deities are "good" in all regards. Sometimes they have boughts of RIGHTEOUS FURY and stuff like that. And sometimes, their followers get a bit obsessed with that RIGHTEOUS FURY and start to focus mainly on it, rather than the other "good" stuff. I mean, shoot, look at Warhammer 40,000. The God-Emperor of Mankind was/is Lawful Good, but it can be argued that most of his followers are Lawful Evil because of what lengths they go to in their devotion. :smalleek:
Their devotion to a someone who refused to be god. I however think it is debatable that the Emperor was indeed Good. Remember his way to reunite humanity was saying "Surrender unconditionally, give up your entire way life, and accept me as your supreme leader or your world will burn".
And through the comic and the commentary here it seems to me that the real "villians" here is the church that, with Kago in fore front, have used their mythos as an excuse to persecute the Plaavan to the point where banditry has become their only real option (as I understand the edict of tolerance has been in effect for less than life time). Yet we have, to use a popular phrase around here, the word of god that this is a church for a good goddess lead by lawful good paladins.
While this may seem overly critical, believe I am enjoying reading this, and am looking forward to seeing more
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Anterean
Their devotion to a someone who refused to be god. I however think it is debatable that the Emperor was indeed Good. Remember his way to reunite humanity was saying "Surrender unconditionally, give up your entire way life, and accept me as your supreme leader or your world will burn".
And through the comic and the commentary here it seems to me that the real "villians" here is the church that, with Kago in fore front, have used their mythos as an excuse to persecute the Plaavan to the point where banditry has become their only real option (as I understand the edict of tolerance has been in effect for less than life time). Yet we have, to use a popular phrase around here, the word of god that this is a church for a good goddess lead by lawful good paladins.
While this may seem overly critical, believe I am enjoying reading this, and am looking forward to seeing more
You don't have all the information yet. That's all I'm saying.
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Just curious and Im sorry if it has been asked before, (Which Im betting it has, but dont know where) but what program do you make your comics with?
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Anterean
Their devotion to a someone who refused to be god. I however think it is debatable that the Emperor was indeed Good. Remember his way to reunite humanity was saying "Surrender unconditionally, give up your entire way life, and accept me as your supreme leader or your world will burn".
He's good considering the opposition...
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Asta Kask
He's good considering the opposition...
You say good, I say the lesser Evil :smallbiggrin: