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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
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Lord Raziere
cackle madly and go "POWER!!! ULTIMATE POWER!" use her new destructive spells to destroy large amounts of Dragon-Blooded in Lookshy or the Imperial City, then use it make big miracles that will make people worship her and thus offer her up babies to eat, hubristically summon up Third Circle Demons when Calibration comes and demand them to do I don't know do her laundry, kill Chejop Kejack, call up the Blazing Solar Chariot and go riding around over Creation flinging fireballs at everything even though its not possible to spam that sort of thing in Exalted, I have no idea, there is no writeup for Raksi in Scroll of Exalts and I am not gonna go through the suck that is Manual of Exalted Power: Lunars just to read up on her, and to my memory we are only given "wanting to master Solar Circle Sorcery" as a motivation without any follow up or follow through plans after that.
so I'm personally thinking that with Raksi as crazy as she already is, she would probably just start going mad with even more power.
Her writeup is in CoTD: the East, in the final chapter, methinks. It's only relevant because Mnemon just bit it (or at least one version of her did *wink*), and I was wondering just where her emerald thurible might have ended up. And Raksi is the Lunar mate of a major npc (and my sometimes character), so she is going to be an antagonist at some point.
Just wondering what everyone thought would happen. Adamant is supposedly super awesome, but most of the spells in there (aside from Demon of the Third Circle) seem wanting. Sorceries in this game really run the gamut from "must-have" to "no one ever buys this, ever, in the history of ever."
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golentan
Not... really. I mean, pretty much every exalt type has examples of people who had their moment of glory and then squandered their powers on pettiness and idiocy. Requiring the Terrestrials to have earned it in a previous life doesn't mean they'll make good use of it in this life.
It also strikes me as rather pointless. What difference does it make for a Dynastic Dragon-Blooded PC who their soul was in its previous incarnations?
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
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Lord Raziere
I kind of agree. I mean, momentary greatness just feels too much like a comic book story. "oh I made this perfect statue of somebody and suddenly I became a Twilight even though I never been heroic" it just feels so random.
There are good ways to look at it.
Exaltation looks for potential, realized or not. It looks for both "will be", "is", "might be" and "should have been sooner" heroes.
Sometimes you exalt because you stand before an abomination to nature and decide they won't lay a @&#$(*&$(* finger on your kin.
Sometimes you exalt because you have a relentless drive that finally paid off when you convinced your lord to attack paragon despite being neutral about there.
Sometimes you exalt because one day you feel you're done reigning in your stupid lord's ideas and take matters in your own two hands.
Sometimes you exalt because a traitor to your nation killed the lord and took over, and you join her cause because her cause is right, and you're the only one that believes it.
Sometimes you exalt because a traitor to your nation killed the lord and took over, and you join the rebellion because her cause is wrong, and you won't stand for it.
Sometimes you exalt because a hero is needed and you'll be that hero.
Some of them might be mutually exclusive. Some of them might clash, or contradict each other. And they're all correct. Hell, all those depicted above could happen in the same scene at the same place, to multiple people.
With solars it's common to exalt after doing something believed impossible. When that happens remember solars are the humans who transcend their limitations.Did they exalt because they succeeded, or did they succeed because they exalted? That question is best left unanswered.
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
I personally don't mind the many varied ways of exalting. The game has a very broad interpretation of what makes something "heroic," and in the game sense means someone that is determined to be/do something great. The concept that even sculpting a great work of art is heroic is cool; surely Michelangelo's David is just as big a heroic act as some guy in a robe going "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!" Surely not as dramatic, but not all great works are dramatic. Some are slow, take time to mature, and have an impact long after their maker has turned to dust. Indeed, some of the most influential stuff in real life cultures is the stuff that is not violent or dramatic; art, music, and other creative endeavors reach many more people than stories of wartime heroics (not to devalue such heroics in any way).
In the case of Solars in particular, UCS is the embodiment of ultimate virtue (or was supposed to be, back in the day). Temperance and Compassion are among these virtues, and while they don't always make for great video game cutscenes, they have just as much potential to be heroic as Conviction and Valor. I like flash and glitz as much as the next person, but even the small acts and seemingly insignificant things can be granted great significance by the context and the mindsets of those surrounding the events.
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
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Recaiden
They are their own Heart. If they jump into the fire for six actions, (which presumably inflicts terrible damage), they should be able to attune.
I like that. And it sounds like something Lunars with Graces would do. :smalltongue:
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Phelix-Mu
Soliciting additional responses (beyond baby back ribs jokes).
She would start researching on how to learn Void Circle Necromancy. Or maybe she would try to develop a Lunar version of Primordial Principle.
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God dammit, now I'm going to have that song stuck in my head ALL DAY.
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
The natural follow-up to "master Adamant circle" is "have some fun with Adamant circle"
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I've always held by the old Solar Exaltation standard: all you have to do is attempt the impossible. And Succeed.
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
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emeraldstreak
The natural follow-up to "master Adamant circle" is "have some fun with Adamant circle"
Which I guess leads us back in the baby back ribs direction. Raksi has been really strong for a long time now; it's only her obsession with cracking the highest levels of sorcery that has kept her mostly a backwoods nightmare in a little-visited area of Creation.
I guess this is my cue to homebrew some Adamant Circle spells that can carry their weight.
Also, two questions:
1.) This Primordial Principle thing has been mentioned several times now. Where can I find it and what, in general, is the big deal?
2.) I remember that you have to give up something of personal significance to enter Sapphire Circle, but what is the sacrifice for Adamant Circle? Or is it the same thing, only bigger/more significant?
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Phelix-Mu
Soliciting additional responses (beyond baby back ribs jokes).
The obvious next step for anyone obsessed with knowledge is to bind Orabilis and demand all the secrets. For anyone obsessed with knowledge, it's to bind Ligier and kill all the armies. Basically, at least one Third Circle should start running around ruining things.
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Phelix-Mu
1.) This Primordial Principle thing has been mentioned several times now. Where can I find it and what, in general, is the big deal?
Primordial Principle Emulation is an E6 Occult charm that lets Solars learn Infernal charms.
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Phelix-Mu
1.) This Primordial Principle thing has been mentioned several times now. Where can I find it and what, in general, is the big deal?
2.) I remember that you have to give up something of personal significance to enter Sapphire Circle, but what is the sacrifice for Adamant Circle? Or is it the same thing, only bigger/more significant?
1.It's a solar charm created by a solar in the first age who modified their body and soul so much that their Exaltation didn't recognize them and prevented them from using their Solar Charms.
So they created this Charm, which allows a Solar to learn the Charms of a Primordial(Yozi or otherwise), without becoming an akuma or whatever the Non Yozi Equivalent to an Akuma is called.(In Game Terms, the Solar can now Learn Infernal Charms)
2.Sorcery isn't just a method of using magic. A Sorcerer has a different way of seeing the world, so in order to initiate into sorcery, one must have the proper perspective.
The tasks one must preform are to put them in this perspective. a sorcerer must have experience and understand humility, even if they later go back on it, for example
When initiating into a New Level of Sorcery, one is supposed to make a meaningful Sacrifice. Something that changes your outlook. Or maybe you get rid of Something that's holding you back.
Perhaps you're angry about something, and that Anger is holding you back, so by Sacrificing that Anger, your perspective changes. Or maybe you have a dream that you will never fulfill. By accepting that and moving on, that doorway is closed to you, but many more open up.
Or, like the humility thing earlier, you can just cheat, cut of a finger or something, and learn sorcery without learning anything about yourself.
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
Little late to the party, but who is Raksi? and is Adamant circle sorcery the highest level for Solars or is it unique somehow?
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
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TimeWizard
Little late to the party, but who is Raksi? and is Adamant circel sorcery the highest level for Solars or is it unique somehow?
Raksi is an Elder Lunar Exalted who has spent her time since the Usurpation sitting on the city of Spirimin where the Book of Three Circles is held. She is notorious for eating babies, requiring her guests to eat babies, and breeding an army of ape men to server her. Her big driving goal is to master the adamant circle of sorcery, which the Book of Three Circles lists most of the spell for.
Adamant/Solar circle sorcery is usable by Solars and Green Sun Princes, and some gods and demons have powers analogous to its spells. The Sun for example can just call over his own chariot and have them stabled with his own horses if he wants to, no magic required. Ligier can throw out Total Annihilations because they consist of throwing his fire.
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
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Rater202
When initiating into a New Level of Sorcery, one is supposed to make a meaningful Sacrifice. Something that changes your outlook. Or maybe you get rid of Something that's holding you back.
Perhaps you're angry about something, and that Anger is holding you back, so by Sacrificing that Anger, your perspective changes. Or maybe you have a dream that you will never fulfill. By accepting that and moving on, that doorway is closed to you, but many more open up.
Or maybe you love your children too much, so you sacrifice them and read the runes for Adamant Circle Sorcery out of the blood patterns that are formed. Sacrifices don't have to make you a better person, just one who sees the world in a different light.
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Exthalion
Raksi is an Elder Lunar Exalted who has spent her time since the Usurpation sitting on the city of Spirimin where the Book of Three Circles is held. She is notorious for eating babies, requiring her guests to eat babies, and breeding an army of ape men to server her. Her big driving goal is to master the adamant circle of sorcery, which the Book of Three Circles lists most of the spell for.
Adamant/Solar circle sorcery is usable by Solars and Green Sun Princes, and some gods and demons have powers analogous to its spells. The Sun for example can just call over his own chariot and have them stabled with his own horses if he wants to, no magic required. Ligier can throw out Total Annihilations because they consist of throwing his fire.
To add to this, Raksi was a genius sorceress Lunar. She mastered the first two circles in [insert stunningly short period of time]. After the Usurpation, she moved into Speriminn, now Mahalanka, and started studying the Book of Three Circles, which details all the circles of sorcery and has a large number of spells in it.
But, despite her incredible genius, the book wouldn't let her study the sections on Adamant Circle sorcery, because that is only permitted to Solar (and GSPs); the guardian spirit of the book literally won't let her read that part.
So, she's spent centuries trying to find a method to get around that limitation. And eating babies, although that was caused by her exposure to the Wyld after she fled the Sidereal death squads during the Usurpation.
She is presented in detail along with Mahalanka in Compass of Terrestrial Directions: the East.
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Phelix-Mu
She is presented in detail along with Mahalanka in Compass of Terrestrial Directions: the East.
Best scrap this and rebuild her. In East she lacks things as basic as a perfect defense.
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
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Qwertystop
"Being Autocthon," I think.
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Friv
To expand on that - being sick and dying is an integral part of his nature, and springs from his being the Primordial who developed tools and external objects to compensate for his weakness.
In 2e, I believe a developer quote once said that Autochthon's cancer is threaded through his Charm set, such that anyone who started learning Autochthon Charms would eventually develop robo-cancer themselves, and that fetich death would only make his sickness more horrific. They further said that Voidtech is the expression of Autochthon's cancerous Charms in the Alchemicals.
This was said by one developer, and it's not canon.
If it becomes canon, I will ritualistically burn the paper it is written on.
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Phelix-Mu
1.) This Primordial Principle thing has been mentioned several times now. Where can I find it and what, in general, is the big deal?
2.) I remember that you have to give up something of personal significance to enter Sapphire Circle, but what is the sacrifice for Adamant Circle? Or is it the same thing, only bigger/more significant?
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Mewtarthio
Primordial Principle Emulation is an E6 Occult charm that lets Solars learn Infernal charms.
It's found on page 30/31 of Glories of the Most High: The Unconquered Sun.
It's hated by the fandom mostly because it breaks things. You can combine charms in terrifying ways just inside a single charmset. But infernal and solar charms weren't designed to be used together, so the abuses are bigger and more common.
(What's more, E6 is broken enough, it doesn't need the help.)
Like many broken things, charmshare (a general term for characters getting charms outside their own) is perfectly usable if you watch out for broken things and go 'Hmm. That's broken. I'd better not do it.'
It's a problem for the type of player who tries to win.
Edit: For clarity's sake, I am fairly odd in my fondness for charmshare.
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
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Phelix-Mu
To add to this, Raksi was a genius sorceress Lunar. She mastered the first two circles in [insert stunningly short period of time]. After the Usurpation, she moved into Speriminn, now Mahalanka, and started studying the Book of Three Circles, which details all the circles of sorcery and has a large number of spells in it.
But, despite her incredible genius, the book wouldn't let her study the sections on Adamant Circle sorcery, because that is only permitted to Solar (and GSPs); the guardian spirit of the book literally won't let her read that part.
So, she's spent centuries trying to find a method to get around that limitation. And eating babies, although that was caused by her exposure to the Wyld after she fled the Sidereal death squads during the Usurpation.
She is presented in detail along with Mahalanka in Compass of Terrestrial Directions: the East.
Couldn't she summon and bind some Second Circle demon focused on secret knowledge like Mara the Shadow-Lover or Gebre, the Pavane of Dying Stars and demand that they share their knowledge about Adamant Circle sorcery?
Or, Raksi maybe believes that the Solars hog some secret known only to them that allows anybody who knows it to use Adamant Circle Sorcery?
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
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Lix Lorn
This was said by one developer, and it's not canon.
If it becomes canon, I will ritualistically burn the paper it is written on.
I think that the canon explanation is that his sickenss is killing him slowly, so voidtech, gremlins and stuff are instead of drawing on his power, drawing on the power of his potential Neverborn Self. I think it's called the engine of Genocide or something along those lines.
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Lix Lorn
Like many broken things, charmshare (a general term for characters getting charms outside their own) is perfectly usable if you watch out for broken things and go 'Hmm. That's broken. I'd better not do it.'
It's a problem for the type of player who tries to win.
I belive the current developers have said that they fixed Eclispoid charmshare problem by making it so that they can only get the Charms of Spirits and Elementals, and even then only ones with an Specific Keyword. Things like Breathing underwater, or walking on clouds, or charms that synergize with the standard Eclipsoid Charmsets
I'm not sure if there might be exceptions for the Variant eclipsoids, since Generic Spirit Charms are no longer a thing. I could See Moonshadows learing Ghost Charms and Infernal Eclipsoids learning Demon Charms
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Lix Lorn
Edit: For clarity's sake, I am fairly odd in my fondness for charmshare.
No you're not. I'm fond of Power Copying in all it's forms
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Rater202
I think that the canon explanation is that his sickenss is killing him slowly, so voidtech, gremlins and stuff are instead of drawing on his power, drawing on the power of his potential Neverborn Self. I think it's called the engine of Genocide or something along those lines.
Engine of Extinction, got to have the alliteration.
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Rater202
I think that the canon explanation is that his sickenss is killing him slowly, so voidtech, gremlins and stuff are instead of drawing on his power, drawing on the power of his potential Neverborn Self. I think it's called the engine of Genocide or something along those lines.
It's-
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Exthalion
Engine of Extinction, got to have the alliteration.
That's the one.
And this is awesome!
But having it be unfixable? Saying 'He cannot be fixed, attempting to do so makes him get worse or takes away his helpful traits'?
That is not Exalted. That belongs in Warhammer 40k, so take your grimdark hopeless primordial and FUDGE OFF.
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I belive the current developers have said that they fixed Eclispoid charmshare problem by making it so that they can only get the Charms of Spirits and Elementals, and even then only ones with an Specific Keyword. Things like Breathing underwater, or walking on clouds, or charms that synergize with the standard Eclipsoid Charmsets
I'm not sure if there might be exceptions for the Variant eclipsoids, since Generic Spirit Charms are no longer a thing. I could See Moonshadows learing Ghost Charms and Infernal Eclipsoids learning Demon Charms
booooriiing :P
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No you're not. I'm fond of Power Copying in all it's forms
Good to know.
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
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Lix Lorn
That's the one.
And this is awesome!
But having it be unfixable? Saying 'He cannot be fixed, attempting to do so makes him get worse or takes away his helpful traits'?
That is not Exalted. That belongs in Warhammer 40k, so take your grimdark hopeless primordial and FUDGE OFF.
In Gunstar they managed to get it fully into remission. I think it is implied that the Gunstar itself will not have it since its ultimate weapon theme doesn't have room for a dying of cancer component.
The point is probably that killing the core as Authochthon is Right Now would be a bad thing that would make it worse. There is also the speculation that the Alchemical Exalted are his work around, what with their exalted city-bodies taking the place of his more fallible systems.
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This is all reasonable, and I'd be glad to hear it's what that developer meant.
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
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Lix Lorn
That's the one.
And this is awesome!
But having it be unfixable? Saying 'He cannot be fixed, attempting to do so makes him get worse or takes away his helpful traits'?
That is not Exalted. That belongs in Warhammer 40k, so take your grimdark hopeless primordial and FUDGE OFF.
I don't remember ever hearing that the sickness is an absolute and incurable thing. I do remember several of the writers confirming that it's an intrinsic part of his nature; he's a Hephestian figure, the crippled smith, who makes wonders to compensate for his weakness. It's his archetype. It'll take more than just high-Essence Medicine Charms.
That said... it is possible to fundamentally alter a Primordial's nature. The Yozis are a kind of proof-of-concept here. But to alter the nature of a Primordial for the better, without screwing things up somehow? That's never been done before. It's like trying to figure out how to conduct open-heart surgery when the most complicated surgical procedure anyone's ever done before is to hack off arms and legs.
Autochthon himself couldn't devise any way to cure his illness (though that may be because it's part of his basic nature and he can't go against that). The other Primordials couldn't cure it (though they may not have tried very hard). The united Exalted host at the height of the First Age couldn't cure it (though again, they may not have tried). The united Exalted Host in the alternate Gunstar shard, who are definitely trying, haven't found a cure yet (though they can fight it).
What I'm getting at is, it's hard. Really hard. There are no Charms for it and the writers aren't gonna tell you how, because they don't know either. But... it isn't disallowed in the way that time travel and resurrection are. It's a thing that could theoretically happen, on par with uniting the Exalted host once more, or making Creation into a utopia, or laying the Neverborn to rest. I feel like it's probably an endgame goal, and it's hard enough that you might not ever achieve it, even if it's explicitly your character's Motivation.
(This is how I've always seen it, anyway, but my headcanon is not always the same as Exalted canon.)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion XVI: Chej Kejak, Pokegod Trainer!
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Exthalion
In Gunstar they managed to get it fully into remission. I think it is implied that the Gunstar itself will not have it since its ultimate weapon theme doesn't have room for a dying of cancer component.
The point is probably that killing the core as Authochthon is Right Now would be a bad thing that would make it worse. There is also the speculation that the Alchemical Exalted are his work around, what with their exalted city-bodies taking the place of his more fallible systems.
Yeah. I'm pretty sure the thing about the sickness is that
a) Autochthon is by definition sick. The final push for Gunstar (which might not even be possible) would essentially sever that identity.
b) Killing someone affected by a horrifying death-plague is definitely going to make the death thing worse.
So basically, in order to cure Autochthon, you'd need to make him grow beyond his present self so that he no longer needs the sickness to fuel his creations. And then you can fetich kill him if you have to.
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emeraldstreak
Best scrap this and rebuild her. In East she lacks things as basic as a perfect defense.
Yeah, I referenced that book more for the fluff and setting detail, not for her mechanical nature. The only thing I liked about that was she seems to make use of some interesting demonic poisons in her combat form, which is a cool idea that I roped into one of my subplots. Insane jungle sorceress poison-user is definitely an interesting way to go with it. Plus, her delving into Helltech may imply that she is looking toward making a Lunar version of Primordial Principle in order to then learn Adamant Circle (or to make Adamant Circle irrelevant).
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Lix Lorn
It's found on page 30/31 of Glories of the Most High: The Unconquered Sun.
It's hated by the fandom mostly because it breaks things. You can combine charms in terrifying ways just inside a single charmset. But infernal and solar charms weren't designed to be used together, so the abuses are bigger and more common.
(What's more, E6 is broken enough, it doesn't need the help.)
Like many broken things, charmshare (a general term for characters getting charms outside their own) is perfectly usable if you watch out for broken things and go 'Hmm. That's broken. I'd better not do it.'
It's a problem for the type of player who tries to win.
Edit: For clarity's sake, I am fairly odd in my fondness for charmshare.
Thanks for the source. I thought I'd read it somewhere, but the paucity of tables and indices, or any overarching organization aside from chapter headings really makes the eternal search for Solar charms a bit of a mess.
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Clistenes
Couldn't she summon and bind some Second Circle demon focused on secret knowledge like Mara the Shadow-Lover or Gebre, the Pavane of Dying Stars and demand that they share their knowledge about Adamant Circle sorcery?
Or, Raksi maybe believes that the Solars hog some secret know only to them that allow anybody who knows it to use Adamant Circle Sorcery?
This is good stuff. I will have to read about that and consider alternate methods. I'm sure that, in her centuries of existence, she has wrung secrets from just about everyone she can. The book implies that she has been frustrated, but maybe it's mainly frustration in learning directly from the Book of Three Circles or something. Certainly, it might suit several of the Yozis just fine if certain of Adamant Circle's secrets leaked out.
Mwahahaha.:smallamused:
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Lix Lorn
That's the one.
And this is awesome!
But having it be unfixable? Saying 'He cannot be fixed, attempting to do so makes him get worse or takes away his helpful traits'?
That is not Exalted. That belongs in Warhammer 40k, so take your grimdark hopeless primordial and FUDGE OFF.
I never saw anything about unfixabillity. Infact, I do belive that at least one shard has it fixed.
I see Fetich Death making it worse, which makes sense becuase if the whole reason that your sick is becuase part of you is undead, then almost dieing is probably going to make it worse.
I also see that taking tomany of Autochtons primordial Charms would eventually cuase you to develop similar ,which m akes sense becuase the more Primordial Charms you take, the more like that Primordial you become, and in 2E everythiong about a Primordial is mage of Charm, so presumably his Sickness is also a charm. Presumably a prerequisite for charms tainted by the nature of his Neverborn Self.
Presumably, fixing it would alter those charms for Autocthon himself
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booooriiing :P
well, we don't know if it's just charms that are thematically Eclipsoid. Could well be some combat charms in there, since we're told that there's not gonna be an extra XP cost or mote surcharge. the Keyword OOC specifically is for Charms that the Developers don't think will break the game if mixed in with Solar Charms
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Lix Lorn
Good to know.
If there's a game where I can make a character with Power Copying, Power Stealing, Power Absorption, or Power Assimilation and have that be the central aspect of my Character's abillities, I will at least once.
I'm particularly fond of devouring the souls/essence/what have you of supernatural creatures in order to gain their powers.
Remember when I told you about that Cannibalism themed Devil Tiger I played once? One of her charms let her devour a recently slain corpse and keep it's souls trapped in her spirit world. an upgrade let her trap Gods by devouring their essence, and an upgrade to that let her store the exaltations of Dragonbloods and Alchemicals latently within her own soul.
Cue an invasion by an entire dragon of Terrestrial Soldiers, led by elder Essence Immaculate monks coming to stop the anathema that was our Party., and supported by a few talons composed entirely of essence one and two summoned elementals
And that's how her Spirit world got it's own elemental Poles, Manses, and Dragon Lines.
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Rater202
Remember when I told you about that Cannibalism themed Devil Tiger I played once? One of her charms let her devour a recently slain corpse and keep it's souls trapped in her spirit world. an upgrade let her trap Gods by devouring their essence, and an upgrade to that let her store the exaltations of Dragonbloods and Alchemicals latently within her own soul.
Cue an invasion by an entire dragon of Terrestrial Soldiers, led by elder Essence Immaculate monks coming to stop the anathema that was our Party., and supported by a few talons composed entirely of essence one and two summoned elementals
And that's how her Spirit world got it's own elemental Poles, Manses, and Dragon Lines.
...that's awesome.
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If I want to learn about Alchemicals, what is the best source for the fluff, the relevant Compass of Very Long Name or the MoEP?
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Lix Lorn
...that's awesome.
Thank you. Do you also approve of charms that let me craft Primordial Charms based on the powers and themes of the Spirits my chacter has eaten and imprisoned?
Now,here's thing I've been wondering about:
The Capstone Charm for infrernal monster Style transforms one of the Character's hands into a demonic once, aloowing the character to treet all unarmed strikes as being made with an artifact weapon.
If this or a similar charm were to make it to 3E, how would that interact with Invocations? I could see the Infernal expansion on it as an invocation