For me, the feet does it. At least in the last panel of the last comic.
Don't judge me.
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For me, the feet does it. At least in the last panel of the last comic.
Don't judge me.
A band made up of Zii, Sonya, and Yuki, there is nothing about that that is in any way a good idea. I mean, that situation is bad on so many levels that it really just needs its own webcomic.
Yuki is easily the cutest character in the series as far as I'm concerned.
Also, "Not a Lesbian" sounds like a cool band name.
But... but... but... the music videos they would make!!!
...because rumor has it some Caucasian might be less attracted to an Asian than another Caucasian? Not me, but I'd assume so. And therefore she's not as 'average' as Sonja is.
That's why I said 'on the outside'. You can't spot stupidity. Okay, you can, but not really on Sonja. You need to talk to her.:smallwink:
Not really an issue, but some people are less attracted to members of certain races. I, for one, find less Asian women attractive than non-Asian ones, for one. The same goes for most black women, while black guys do really well (I usually don't tell them that though, mostly because half the black guys I know personally have huge egos).
On the subject of Sandra not being hot due to being a redhead/ginger: there is a difference between redheads and gingers, yanno? :smalltongue:
Oh, if you're talking about the 'average' with regard to Caucasians, then I'd agree with your assessment that Yuki is non-standard.
It's just that 'average' is very subjective term here - to a Japanese person, Yuki would be the 'average'.
I wasn't questioning that, I was questioning Kato's exclusion of Yuki from the 'average beauty' on account of her being Asian. :)
Exactly.
My general preferences goes "Mediterranean / Middle Eastern - Latina - Caucasian Dark Hair - Blondes - The rest". Now this is all in theory, of course.
Besides, the art has something to do with it. I tend to find women less and less attactive the more "Manga-ish" they are drawn. Zee has lost more and more hotness the further the series has gone, for this reason, for example.
New comic up.
And just like that I have a new fetish. Thanks, Ma3
Yes. That is all. :smallamused:
(Hum, looking at it from this side, Yuki is quite busty, isn't she. Interesting.)
So as I was loading up the comic, iTunes picked "She Bangs The Drums" from my library....it would appear my iPod is a Menage a 3 fan. Oo
Actually she was never shown to be really... flat. More busty than Zii anyway. She's just not showing it off like other characters. (Than again she still is probably one cup size below Sonja and ??? below DiDi.
What a crazy random happenstance!
This.
I have allways found Yuki and Sonya to have quite large assets compared to their height, waist and hips. But on a taller woman Yukis breasts would not look particulary big.
Not that I complain, second to Sandra she is the hottest in the comic :smallamused:
I'm actually still surprised that it turns out that Sonya actually plays a base guitar.
When I first read her talking about it, I was convinced that it was going to turn out to be a classical base, and spark some sort of argument between Erik and Zii that ended with an Apocalyptica-style riff. :smalltongue:
Yeah, pretty much.
I have heard of someone describing a bass cello as being shaped 'like a beautiful woman' - that is, having a body that's hourglass shaped with a long, elegant neck.
For some reason, I thought of that description and then Sonya (who totally isn't a lesbian!) subconsciously choosing to run her fingers up and down a 'beautiful woman' just seemed so..... apt. :smallbiggrin:
So... Yuki is a coward and Gary has to... well not exactly suffer from it but... doesn't get to have fun. Poor boy. But naked Yuki, so yay.
C'mon, Gary! You know what you're capable of, be a gentleman and offer to share it with the young lady! :smallbiggrin:
I don't think she does. She plays the triangle, and because she wants to get with Zii, she lied about playing bass. If you hadn't noticed, Sonya is not very bright. She may have thought that she could easily pick up how to play.Quote:
I'm actually still surprised that it turns out that Sonya actually plays a base guitar.
Why else would she be "practicing" with a mini boombox, with her guitar not plugged in, and surprised that she broke a nail doing it?
So close, you guys. So close. :smallbiggrin:
Rooting for Gary here in a unprecedented amount of optimism! *pompoms* \o/
If she had made even the slightest mention of her current feelings, I'm sure Gary would have at least made sure they'd have a swirl time together. :smallamused:
Today's comic made my views on Yuki drop a little bit again. I mean really, you would go back to your old lover so quickly? Really?
To be fair to Yuki, she didnt go through with it.
I'm thinking the real challenge will be when she shares a bed with another gorgeous woman near-insane with desire tonight...
So Yuki was going to try to cheat on Gary if Zii's boyfriend hadn't walked in? Yeah, any respect there was there, all gone. I'm sorry, people, but "I was really horny " is not an acceptable excuse for cheating.
I'm going to be generous and say even if he hadn't had walked in, it wasn't a certainty that Yuki would have gone through with it.
But the again I tend to give the best possible interpretations to people's behaviour like that.
Let's hope that this doesn't become of enough of a thing that shaking hands with someone turns into a turn-on. Because this comic is gonna rub it in that specific people don't get any. :smallamused:
(Which now seems to have extended from Gary to Yuki due to relationship status. Kinda like a curse, actually.)
Also of note: Another occurence of not closing/locking the damn doors while naked/having sex. :smallsigh:
This is actually starting to creep me out.
Well, it is as they say...
"One person's nightmare is another person's paradise."
I'm not quite sure what side I am on but anything that makes Yuki horny while lying next to DiDi must lead to some interesting events.
Considering how deep-seated her issues are, I doubt they'd fully go away until years of treatment and going about it delicately, and even then likely only with Gary. I think she could genuinely be bisexual, but a bigger chance is that she is simply biromantic and homosexual.
I think that's too complicated for this comic. :smallwink:
Everything is fair game and people change their outlooks at the drop of a hat, and it never gets in the way what would be the most funny development. :smallbiggrin:
Well, at least the comic poked upon YukixDidi with this one. Not insofar as predicted, but still. :smallamused:
And yet this is still all about Gary. :smallbiggrin:
(Also, first panel Zii? Oh my. http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z.../Pennybags.png )
...Yeah, that earlier comment that Yuki is a biromantic lesbian? I'm going to assume that's the case now.
I can buy her having romantic feelings for Gary, but her fantasies do nothing to convince me she has sexual feelings for men.
DiDi seems a little more like her old self in this set, but that's mostly because she hasn't really done much besides be Yuki's bunkmate lately. I'm still kind of hoping selfish jerkwad DiDi's phase is over and she gets to be likable again. :smallannoyed:
So, nothing new on Sonjy seducing Zii? I mean... my earlobe fetish was tingling like crazy when I read the strip to be honest. Will Zii be strong or...?
Despite being a ditz, Sonya has a point. I can't help but wonder whether we're supposed to feel sympathy for Zii's discomfort or to applaud the 'karma' that has come back to bite her. There's not really enough of either for me to think anything other than "Eric is inevitably going to be disappointed in some way", which is sad because he's one of the few genuinely nice characters.
Hmyeah... i'm kinda waiting for the shoe in form of Eric entering the scene to drop. As it stands everything's up in the air as far as the situation goes. :smallconfused:
Those are some quick reflexes.
Won't he wonder why she's having Zii's jacket on backwards? Better than the alternative, I guess.
I see even Zii is impressed with that speed. :O
(Also interesting to see that it's Sonya fully being in the predator role here and Zii as the (mostly) unwilling target.)
Sonya-Zii-Eric
DD-Yuki-Gary
There you go people. Double threesome!
Matt-Dillon-Jung
Three threesomes. :smallbiggrin:
I can't look at that picture and not get hooked on how extremely strange that backwards jacket looks. :smallsigh:
Predator is a strong word. Besides, as she says, it's not like Zii cared about her boyfriend. Assuming she's not really serious with Erik, or at least available for some extra on the side, isn't that farfetched. Zii really kind of brought this on herself, in my mind.
Oh, she definitely did bring this on herself. And it amuses me. :smallamused:
Edit: Even Eric seems to be actively trying to tempt her. :O
Ok, first panel works for me.
Now if only I could get my wife to learn bass guitar and be showing a similar amount of cleavage...
Considering Zii's been advancing in the right direction with Eric and all, what do we estimate the chances to be that she will tell him about Sonya's feelings -- and if so, when? :smallamused:
Personally, I applaud Sonya's persistence not so much as karma but reminding Zii that her behavior for most of the comic has consequences, even if she appeared to avoid nearly all of them affecting HER.
Sort of like how I don't feel a bad guy pulling a boy scout act in the eleventh-and-a-half hour should be treated like a hero or get immediate entry into heaven, Zii just snapping her fingers and deciding she's done philandering after her philandering ruined Sonya's relationship and left her confused about her sexuality should not remove the consequences of seducing a decent but not particularly bright woman for funsies and then acting like nothing happened when she's stuck participating in orgies she doesn't want after you leave.
Things Zii didn't consider very important could mean a lot more to other people, such as Sonya falling for her while Zii wanted nothing but a one-night stand with her. Zii's been a more likable character overall since deciding to change her ways, but she's still being an enormous jerk as far as Sonya's concerned, and I think she ought to be stuck with her so she learns to resolve problems she brought on herself like an adult.
I'm not a big Sonya fan, but woah. KISS and cleavage? Forgive my blush. :smallredface:
I like how you think, and I almost agree with you but for the fact that I can't believe that Sonya is doing it on purpose.
All that we have seen of her so far is that she is quite shallow and a bit naive (if we're being generous; I think 'dim' is probably more accurate), and to be honest I don't think she has it in her to deliberately make such an active cause-and-effect connection between the two and then to take such an active role in enacting anything like 'punishment'.
That's why I'm not sure how I should be interpreting this latest plot. Is it like you said - Someone is calling Zii out on her selfish ways and is threatening to show her how it feels? But Sonya really likes her and hasn't at any point been a mean person, certainly not to the point of deliberately breaking Zii and Eric up out of spite (even Zii didn't go that far).
Is it just Sonya being a lustful ditz and blundering her way through Zii's half hearted complaints in the name of comedy? Maybe, but her comments are actually quite biting and ironic rather than 'funny'.
It's really weird, I just can't judge the tone of the comic right now. Clearly there's meant to be a bit of humour, but I'm really interested to see where it's ultimately heading.
Oh. I didn't so much mean that Sonya was calling Zii out on purpose as I meant that her continued presence is good as a way for the universe to say "You broke it, you bought it. Now you have to clean up your mess." to Zii.
Normally, things go how Zii wants them too. She banged that troll's mom because she was angry at the troll, and for her there were no lasting consequences. She slept around, and didn't consider relationships much, and there were no lasting consequences.
She slept with Sonya, however, and there's a consequence; Sonya won't leave her alone now because the casual sex Zii wanted from her meant a lot more to Sonya, and it's not a problem Zii can just will away or ignore now that she's trying to be monogamous.
It's your steriotypical 'Ladykiller in Love' trope in effect. Zii is trying to grow, but in doing so is finding herself in situations where she can 't run away/manipulate/screw her way out of situation. Hopefully (and I like the character so I want her to 'win' she can work through his, confront her behaviour, grow as a person and live happily ever after with...what's-his-name.
Seriously, does anyone else find it ominous that no effort is being made to develop Eric as anything other than 'Some bloke Zii wants a relationship with'?
Of course this could all end with Zii and Eric and Sonya having a stable, long term polyamourous relationship- a middle path for her if you will.
Oh, I get it. At first, I read it as though Sonya were telling that to Zii. Then yeah, I see what you mean.
Having said that.... It's not much of a lesson that she's learning, is it? If she does convince Sonya to go away, she gets to have a monogamous relationship (which she seems to be enjoying) with Erik who, so far, seems to be very bland and has little character beyond "he buys her stuff that she likes" (like the concert tickets, and the sweets, and funding her band, etc) so Zii wins.
If, however, she gives in and lets herself be seduced by Sonya, she gets.... well, seduced by Sonya (who is gorgeous) and ends up in a monogamous relationship with her. Not exactly what you might call a 'Lesser Evil', is it? :smalltongue:
Again, I'm not sure what to think. The worst that will happen is that Zii gets lots of sex with someone who is physically incredible (unless she gets greedy and tries to cheat on both, but the way things are going -her happiness with Erik and her new-found 'morals' - I don't see her going for that) so it's not like I'm feeling sorry for her, and yet.....
Having said that, either relationship has a different expression of power; Zii has previously protested about having a steady relationship with just one person, but Erik showers her with gifts and encourages her to indulge in her musical career. He's just happy that she is happy, apparently.
Sonya, on the other hand, has expectations of Zii that she expects returned; I don't think Erik has ever explicitly requested that Zii and he 'go steady' whereas Sonya has straight away asked to be an equal partner in the relationship, what with stating her own sex drive and requirements.
So.... A male figure who only gives her what she wants, versus a demanding female who expects Zii to at least hold up her side of the 'bargain'. Is anyone else thinking 'parental issues', or is that just me? :smalltongue:
(emphasis mine)
Okay, I was planning to stay out of this but now I feel like saying part of my bit: What do you mean, new found morals? She always had morals, just because they didn't fit your or anyone else's idea doesn't mean they weren't there. She wants a monogamous relationship now, not before. That's a new goal in life, not new morals. If she had been in monogamous relationships yet constantly cheating (like a certain bisexual male) it would have been a moral problem, so it's got nothing to do with that as far as I'm concerned.
Oh, sure she did things people might consider amoral but from what we have seen we can't say whether she would judge someone now who does what she did earlier. She's annoyed by Sonjy, that doesn't mean she things what she does is amoral.
....Yeah, you're reading entirely too much into that. :smallsigh:
I am referring entirely to the same hypocrisy that Sonya pointed out; that Zii has shown almost no regard for the sanctity of other peoples' relationships, until doing so benefits herself.
I haven't disparaged her or anybody else's lifestyle, nor have I been part of the "OMG ZII IS EVIL!" crowd, but maybe 'morals was the wrong word to use. 'Principles' might've been better, perhaps?
At the very least, I *am* saying that hers is a sudden revelation based entirely on a few days of being woo'd by a self confessed millionaire and I don't think there's been enough of a plot development for us to take it seriously. Certainly, not yet, at least.
Yes we can. She was quite ready and willing to rip Gary a new one when he cheated on Yuki. Or maybe that's just a case of "one rule for Zii and her conquests, another for everyone else" that makes it okay to commit adultery so long as it isn't with someone that Zii has 'claimed'? :smalltongue:Quote:
Oh, sure she did things people might consider amoral but from what we have seen we can't say whether she would judge someone now who does what she did earlier.
...Okay, I take it all back. Zii isn't amoral, immoral or evil, but she *is* a darn hypocrite and now I REALLY don't feel sympathy for her! :smallbiggrin:
Sorry, guess I got a bit touchy with all the "Zii gets what she deserves" posts. I like her even if she's not perfect.
I don't know.. as for what we know Zii's interferences into other people's relationships were always welcome by the other party while Sonya is rather forcing herself on Zii. I'm not trying to judge but that's my recollection of what we know.
Well, one could argue Yuki is a good friend of Zii's and Yuki doesn't follow the same life style as she does so I guess it is kind of valid to defend your friend... from your other friend. Meh, but I really don't want to start another big "How evil is Zii" argument... Let's just hope for more nice shots of Bassist Sonya.Quote:
Yes we can. She was quite ready and willing to rip Gary a new one when he cheated on Yuki. Or maybe that's just a case of "one rule for Zii and her conquests, another for everyone else" that makes it okay to commit adultery so long as it isn't with someone that Zii has 'claimed'? :smalltongue: