Girl Genius XIII: "Gott's Leedle Feesh in Trousers!"

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Girl Genius II
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[scenic whisper]Psst! You missed the last thread on your list.[/scenic whisper]

At title; Yes. Yes. So much yes.

Side note: your "abandon thread" gif is hypnotic.

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Originally Posted by Radar

[scenic whisper]Psst! You missed the last thread on your list.[/scenic whisper]

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Fixed :smallredface:

Page adjustment for vol-11 have generated a few new (old) pages in Volume 11.

http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20110208

http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20110719

Well, if there was any doubt that Higgs is someone important to the Castle and the Heterodynes, that first link dispels it totally! And the second one just seems to be setting up a Chekov's Gun situation where Professor Tiktoffen's "little device" is still available should it be needed...

As for today's strip: Jaegers fighting giant weasel, what's not to like? :smallwink:

at first I thought the weasel had beefy arms growing out of its forehead, but then I saw the jager teeth and figured out that something was gnawing on its head while thy also punched at it...

Higgs really keeps getting more and more depth as this story goes on. :smallamused:

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Originally Posted by factotum

Well, if there was any doubt that Higgs is someone important to the Castle and the Heterodynes, that first link dispels it totally!

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The fact he calls them masters certainly gives credence to the hypothesis that he is the secret general, too.

GW

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Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c

The fact she calls them masters certainly gives credence to the hypothesis that he is the secret general, too.

GW

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And the whole, "every 20 years" comment also suggests he is very long lived. Meaning he isnt just some random plant from mechanicsburg in the barons forces.

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Originally Posted by Traab

And the whole, "every 20 years" comment also suggests he is very long lived. Meaning he isnt just some random plant from mechanicsburg in the barons forces.

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On the other hand, it is canonical that the jaeger transformation gives you a random, unique, physical mutation (single horn, skin colour change, etc) as well as a few common-to-all-jaeger ones (pointy teeth, increased physical strength). Higgs would need to be a major exception to this. He might be a different experiment from the jaegers altogether (which should not stop him from being a general, since obviously Krosp was allowed to join).

Grey Wolf

If someone took the Jagertroth but didn't drink the Jagerbrau, would that still make that person a Jager?

Well, we empirically know that drinking the Jagerbrau but not taking (or rather, renouncing/being ejected from) the Jagertroth makes you not a Jager, so it seems likely that the Troth is the decisive factor.

EDIT: And wow, yeah, that first Chapter 11 page is...interesting. I want to see more interactions between Higgs and the Castle when they can be candid...though that brings a new question, as to what directives the Castle has that force it to keep Higg's identity secret from everyone else, including Agatha?

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Originally Posted by The Glyphstone

Well, we empirically know that drinking the Jagerbrau but not taking (or rather, renouncing/being ejected from) the Jagertroth makes you not a Jager, so it seems likely that the Troth is the decisive factor.

EDIT: And wow, yeah, that first Chapter 11 page is...interesting. I want to see more interactions between Higgs and the Castle when they can be candid...though that brings a new question, as to what directives the Castle has that force it to keep Higg's identity secret from everyone else, including Agatha?

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It may be more of a scenario where the castle just wont volunteer the information. If agatha ever says, "Yo castle, tell me who higgs is and why you two seem to have a connection?" Then I bet the castle would speak.

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Originally Posted by Traab

It may be more of a scenario where the castle just wont volunteer the information. If agatha ever says, "Yo castle, tell me who higgs is and why you two seem to have a connection?" Then I bet the castle would speak.

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Agreed. Der Kestle may not be aware that Agatha doesn't know - as long as Higgs performs his duties satisfactorily, he might not care (although he clearly was getting close to caring). And even if Higgs didn't, it is not Der Kestle's place to tell the master how to deal with her minions. Or if Higgs really is a secret minion of some kind (general or not), Der Kestle may be acting under order not to blow his cover.

Grey Wolf

I think the only person Der Kastel has orders not to tell who Higgs is came from Higgs himself. In a no verbal fashion. http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20100222 :smallbiggrin:

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Originally Posted by The Glyphstone

EDIT: And wow, yeah, that first Chapter 11 page is...interesting.

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Eh, I feel like it removes a lot of the mystery around Higgs. Even not knowing about the "secret Jaegergeneral" it was a major theory back in the Great Movement Chamber.

With the new Ch. 11 page, the fact that he's a Secret Jaegergeneral is nearly as canonical as Gil & Zeetha being siblings.

Ah well. Thems the breaks.

What is this "new chapter 11 page" you're talking about?

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Originally Posted by douglas

What is this "new chapter 11 page" you're talking about?

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Linked in this post, there are two pages I have never seen before.

Maybe Higgs took a sacred vow to protect the Heterodynes?

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Originally Posted by dextercorvia

Linked in this post, there are two pages I have never seen before.

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Wow, I didn't notice that. Well, I must say that both Higgs and the Castle has some right in what they say. Yes, Agatha needs a friend and only Zeetha does she have, but Higgs also "actually likes" Zeetha. Also, Tiktoffen and Vole wouldn't have almost killed Agatha and the others if Higgs had been there.

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Originally Posted by Jabberwok

Maybe Higgs took a sacred vow to protect the Heterodynes?

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Maybe that is all the Jaeger Troth is.

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Originally Posted by Rockphed

Maybe that is all the Jaeger Troth is.

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Well, I am thinking that "Sacred Vow" made him somewhat immortal. As long as there is a Heterodyne, he can't die - something like that.

Wait... didn't the original Storm King vow to seek the Heterodyne girl forever?

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Originally Posted by Jabberwok

Well, I am thinking that "Sacred Vow" made him somewhat immortal. As long as there is a Heterodyne, he can't die - something like that.

Wait... didn't the original Storm King vow to seek the Heterodyne girl forever?

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...I like this theory.

I must say I like the Jaeger with the bull horns and fez. Nice to see him "in charge", though he appears to be too "Bull headed" to be real leadership. That ferret really seems to have this fight by the horns though. But knowing jaegers this fight will be steered toward victory.

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Originally Posted by Jabberwok

Well, I am thinking that "Sacred Vow" made him somewhat immortal. As long as there is a Heterodyne, he can't die - something like that.

Wait... didn't the original Storm King vow to seek the Heterodyne girl forever?

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Originally Posted by Lix Lorn

...I like this theory.

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It's a good theory, but don't we already know that the people of Europa do not take sacred vows at all seriously?

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Originally Posted by The Glyphstone

It's a good theory, but don't we already know that the people of Europa do not take sacred vows at all seriously?

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The people of modern Europa, yes. We don't know how did they take them in the times of the Storm King ;)

New comic is up.

It seems that Mechanicsburg has bigger problem than the invaders now.

I honestly felt kinda bad for ferret-keeper girl in this comic. She looks so broken as she first appears.