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Metal Thread V - Defenders of the Faith
Metal Thread
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Defenders of the Faith!
This is a great day, my friends.
The year is coming to an end, but for us, this is the begining of a new era, for the new metal thread is here to stay!
I know you were waiting for it. The stage is finally settled.
We're fast and furious. We're heavy duty. We're Defenders of the Faith.
GO!!!
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Re: Metal Thread V - Defenders of the Faith
*gets into position* Lets, uhh metal? We need a better word for this. Preferably one that isn't stolen from rock.
Also I've been listening to a lot of Pagan's Mind recently.
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Re: Metal Thread V - Defenders of the Faith
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Eldpollard
I'll be honest, after careful consideration I think my favourite metal is lead.
Pfft. There are way better metal puns to make than that. For instance:
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Mattarias, King.
Hail and kill, my brothers!
I'm a huge Metal fan,
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Nameless
Also, I've been listening to
Agalloch a lot lately. I blame you, Snares.
Blame me? You should be thanking me. :smallcool:
Also; NEEEEW THREEEEEEAAAAAAD!
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So, at risk of unveiling one of my superhero identities, here's my "2010 metal in review":
Good stuff:
Imprecation- Sigil of Lucifer: Fantastic old school satanic death metal, like Morpheus Descends meets old Morbid Angel. Sadly, only available on vinyl (why do bands do this?), but both songs are on their myspace, www.myspace.com/imprecationusa
Inquisition- Ominous Doctrines of the Perpetual Mystical Macrocosm: Perhaps the longest album title ever that isn't on a grindcore album, and quite an album. It's basically what they've been doing since "Invoking the Majestic Throne of Satan", but with a sharper production and more adept musicianship. Good stuff.
Kerasphorus- Cloven Hooves at the Holocaust Dawn: People keep comparing this to Angelcorpse, which, honestly, I don't think is fair to Kerasphorus. Sure, they're both abraisive, but if Angelcorpse is a simpler Morbid Angel on meth, then "Cloven Hooves at the Holocaust Dawn" is what Joined in Darkness would have sounded like if it was edited by Wagner Antichrist and Craig Pillard, and played by Immolation. Fast, rigid, tremolo-picked lead riffs backed by a clattering war machine and played with bullet precision sounds like a recepie for all of the failed "war metal" of the last 10 years, but Kerasphorus's refusal to drop into almost amusical simplicity combined with their grasp of dynamics which they use to give context to the violence keeps this EP musical and meaningful. Probably my pick of the year, although the Inquisition gives it tough competition.
Prosanctus Inferi- Pandemonic Ululations of Vesperic Palpitation: Absurd album title, but a good album. Like old Profanatica, but with a good production.
Weapon- From the Devil's Tomb: After hearing this, I almost have to wonder if the band was trolling the universe with their utter turd that was their first full length. The band has gone from oddly tame Venom re-treads to beautiful melodic death metal, in the vein of the first Darkthrone album. Gone are the toe-tapping 3-chord riffs; in their place are the haunting tremolo-picked contours of "Soulside Journey", backed with an ambient fast percussion that reminds of Absu.
Profanatica- Disgusting Blasphemies Against God: It's Profanatica. That band name lets you know a release will be genius. This particular one harkens back more to their '90s demo work than than their more recent masterpiece "Profanatitas de Domonatia", both with the bouncier rhythmic expectancy and the blown-out-as-**** production, but it's Profanatica, and at the end of the day, that band name tells you pretty much everything you need to know.
Disappointments:
Father Befouled- Morbid Destitution of Convenant: They seem to have run out of ideas beyond "lets throw together some Incantation-y riffs!". It works ok for a mood piece, but songs fail to develop identities; instead, they're just collections of riffs, alternating between fast and doomy. I'm pretty sure that you could randomly shuffle the riffs from various songs around, and no one would be able to tell the difference- the songs have nothing really holding them together aside from continuity of mood, and there's really one one mood on the album, so it doesn't really make for compelling listening. Rather sad that this is coming from the same band that did "Obscurus Nex Cultus" and "Profanum ad Regnum".
Immolation- Majesty and Decay: Dear Immolation, I know that you want to create more accessible music and leave behind the more inscrutiable-to-outsiders '90s style. That's fine, as you displayed on "Shadows in the Light". However, trying to mix metalcore into your more-musical style is only going to alienate everyone- the lack of continuity causes it to fail as an Immolation album, and the Mercyful Fate/Angel Witch inspired acid-sweet melodicism that you've been developing since "Close to a World Below" causes it to fail as a metalcore album, leaving no possible audience left for "Majesty and Decay". If you'd just create a down-tuned version of "Melissa" with Dolan's growl, we'd all be happy.
Ares Kingdom- Incendiary: Replacing the raw agression of "Return to Ashes" with a more measured approach really kills what was compelling about Ares Kingdom in the first place. Like the other two albums on this list, it's not bad, but it's really not compelling, either.
Things I need to hear more before I decide:
Avzhia- In My Domains
Krieg- The Isolationist
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So tell me, what is your favorite metal cover of a non-metal song? Northern Kings have done some truly epic covers, KMFDM's cover of These Boots Are Made For Walking makes me happier than it should, and I'd be lying if I said Sturmgeist's version of Rock Me Amadeus didn't make me chuckle.
However, my 3 favorites have to be:
Nevermore - The Sounds of Silence
Jorn Lande - The Day the Earth Caught Fire
Sonata Arctica - Wind Beneath My Wings
How about you?
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8 years later, and I still can't decide whether Krieg's cover of "Venus in Furs" is terrible or brilliant. I lean towards brilliant, though.
Judas Priest- "Diamonds and Rust" is obviously classic. I've always found it amusing how many people don't know it's a cover, and how many metal bands have covered their cover.
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Alligator - Help
The main reason: it's not good per se, but it's funny to see the reactions of non-metal listeners. :smalltongue:
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You guys should all listen to KnightQueste!
Medieval Power Metal
http://www.facebook.com/KnightQueste
Amazing stuff
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I really like the covers Blind Guardian has done. My favorite of theirs is probably Dream a Little Dream of Me.
However, the award for favorite non-metal cover performed by a metal band would have to go to Scarborough Fair by My Dying Bride.
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Originally Posted by
Marillion
So tell me, what is your favorite metal cover of a non-metal song?
Northern Kings have done some truly
epic covers,
Meh. They just turn every song into the same bland evenly spread paste.
I'm not a metal fan but of the few bits of metal I do like that style isn't one of them.
I prefer non-metal covers of metal songs to metal covers of non-metal songs. They at least let you see which metal song writers are actually capable, even when they aren't actually better than the original.
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Nomrom
However, the award for favorite non-metal cover performed by a metal band would have to go to
Scarborough Fair by My Dying Bride.
This isn't so bad (the instrumentals aren't as bland as they usually are when someone tries to copy the Simon and Garfunkle arrangement), but Scarborough Fair is pretty much a poster-boy for bad unauthentic folk songs that can sound okay if you're feeling in the mood for something pretentious so its not like they have much to ruin.
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I prefer a different cover of Beat It. For the lawls, the CoB [/url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7O6ekKOE9g]covers[/url] are also pretty good. My all time favorite cover would be Maniac by Firewind (originally She's a Maniac by Hall and Oates).
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I really like Lay Lady Lay from Bob Dylan, covered by Ministry, but its definately not their most metal song.
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So this doesn't have much to do with metal music per se, but the most metal of all manga just got a movie deal apparently (and no, I'm not talking about DMC).
In related news, eagerly awaiting the Soilwork/Blackguard/Nevermore/Powerglove/Symphony X show coming to town for only $30!
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Decoy Lockbox
So this doesn't have much to do with metal music per se, but the most metal of all manga just got
a movie deal apparently (and no, I'm not talking about DMC).
In related news, eagerly awaiting the Soilwork/Blackguard/Nevermore/Powerglove/Symphony X show coming to town for only $30!
I'm so sad that tour isn't coming to Austin. Blackguard is amazing btw. I really should have gotten their CD when I was at that show. I did get an awesome shirt though. :smallbiggrin:
Edit: I just realized that tour hits Texas after the semester ends. This means... I might get to see them after all. :smallbiggrin:
Also: I need more trance metal. There really is nothing that combines the best of the Rave-Dance music scene with the brutality of the Heavy-Metal scene. I mean, really, how hard could it be?
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Not trance metal, but Beherit- Engram is probably what you're looking for.
Perhaps Krieg- The Isolationist, or Ildjarn- Forest Poetry, if your feeling a bit more adventurous.
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fknm
Not trance metal, but Beherit- Engram is probably what you're looking for.
Perhaps Krieg- The Isolationist, or Ildjarn- Forest Poetry, if your feeling a bit more adventurous.
How is black metal (Beherit) what I'm looking for? Also: No, I don't like Black Metal. As far as I can tell, its all noise, and this is coming from a metalhead here. Krieg was kinda better. Ildjarn sounded like really lo-fi music from a slasher film, only metalized. I want a band that does This every freaking song. EVERY freaking song. Cuz then I could mosh to Trance. That. Would. Be. AWESOME! /m\
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These may be what you're looking for.
Silent Descent
Dying Diva
also, this Youtube video has some good ones (clips of them begin 0:30 in.)
I believe Nameless mentioned some earlier iirc.
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toasty
How is black metal (Beherit) what I'm looking for?
Gee, why would I think that a metal band that released 2 electronic albums, whose main man was in Suuri Shaamani and was a Rave DJ for 10 years, and who came back with an album that combined the styles of their metal and electronic eras would be of interest to someone who said he wanted something "that combines the best of the Rave-Dance music scene with the brutality of the Heavy-Metal scene."
Ditto with Ildjarn- the primary influence on his stuff has always been electronic music, especially Biosphere and Klaus Schulze.
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Don't come here often, but I believe there are a few Electric Wizard fans here, no?
How'd you like to hear their music ruined lovingly covered by a teenage garage band?
Well here they are, my friend's band.
</stuffnoonecaresabout>
I saw someone looking for Trance Metal and was all excited and ready to recommend Blood Stain Child but then saw you already had it...
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fknm
Gee, why would I think that a metal band that released 2 electronic albums, whose main man was in Suuri Shaamani and was a Rave DJ for 10 years, and who came back with an album that combined the styles of their metal and electronic eras would be of interest to someone who said he wanted something "that combines the best of the Rave-Dance music scene with the brutality of the Heavy-Metal scene."
Ditto with Ildjarn- the primary influence on his stuff has always been electronic music, especially Biosphere and Klaus Schulze.
Sorry if that came off as angry or something its just that I heard more lo-fi black metal than I did Trace. I suppose, assuming I could actually stand black metal I might have been able to find some enjoyment in those songs, but I don't enjoy black metal... so yeah.
I listened to one of the songs Mythestopheles posted and I liked it, I'll listen to the others when I have some more time.
edit: Bloodstain Child, in my opinion, sounds more like a Children of Bodom Melodeath-type band instead of Trance Metal. They obviously have a Synth in there doing synthy things, but its not really what I would call "Trance Metal"
edit 2: That's a somewhat uniformed opinion, honestly. I haven't listened to Bloodstain child enough to really make an opinion of the worth mentioning.
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toasty
edit: Bloodstain Child, in my opinion, sounds more like a Children of Bodom Melodeath-type band instead of Trance Metal. They obviously have a Synth in there doing synthy things, but its not really what I would call "Trance Metal"
edit 2: That's a somewhat uniformed opinion, honestly. I haven't listened to Bloodstain child enough to really make an opinion of the worth mentioning.
Blood Stain Child's first album is CoB-esque, their second album has some CoB influences and then the next two albums are quite trancy.
I also suggest Raintime's latest album, Psychromatic. Some songs are full out trance metal and the rest have trance influence.
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Snares
Blame me? You should be thanking me. :smallcool:
That okay?
Also, why are you a cat now?
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toasty
Also: I need more trance metal. There really is nothing that combines the best of the Rave-Dance music scene with the brutality of the Heavy-Metal scene.
Meh... it's not brutal at all, but I could suggest some Theatre of tragedy.
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toasty
Also: I need more trance metal. There really is nothing that combines the best of the Rave-Dance music scene with the brutality of the Heavy-Metal scene. I mean, really, how hard could it be?
This sounds like the kind of question that a poorly informed parent would ask. "Where can I find some rave-dance music records?".
The thing is, the type of music that gets played at raves (Electronic Dance Music, or "EDM") is as fiendishly varied, if not even more so than our beloved metal! The type of music that gets played at raves will also vary based on the time period and geographic location as well. For example, at raves in my area (Baltimore-DC-Northern Virginia), electro-house, drum'n'bass and dubstep seem to be the "in vogue" styles, while my beloved Goa and Psy trance get left out in the cold :smallmad:
The point I'm trying to make is that I got dragged to a crapload of raves in 2010.
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So a friend of mine recently linked me to "Power of the Dragonflame" and I was impressed by the cool oldschool powermetal sound and symphonic stuff, so I was wondering if anyone knows what album I should start with if I want to get more into these guys. Power metal wise I tend to like Blind Guardians most recent 5 albums and pretty much anything by hammerfall.
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Hmm, for power/symphonic stuff you could check out Fairyland.
I've been listening to The Lord Weird Slough Feg lately (Just Slough Feg now I guess). Anyone else heard of them?
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zeratul
So a friend of mine recently linked me to "Power of the Dragonflame" and I was impressed by the cool oldschool powermetal sound and symphonic stuff, so I was wondering if anyone knows what album I should start with if I want to get more into these guys. Power metal wise I tend to like Blind Guardians most recent 5 albums and pretty much anything by hammerfall.
If you want to get more into Rhapsody of fire? Just start with their first album and go forward from there. My personal favorite albums of theirs are "Symphony of Enchanted Lands" and "Dawn of Victory". And get some damn Fairyland as well, those guys deserve their due.
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Mythestopheles
Hmm, for power/symphonic stuff you could check out
Fairyland.
I've been listening to
The Lord Weird Slough Feg lately (Just Slough Feg now I guess). Anyone else heard of them?
YES and YES! Fairyland are definitely at the top of the pile when in comes to symphonic power metal, and we need to get more people on that train. Slough Feg is really great, I listened to them a lot during college. Any band whose vocalist sounds like Ian Anderson from Jethro Tull and who does an entire album about a p'n'p roleplaying game (Traveller) has earned my respect. The songs are great too :smallbiggrin:
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Mythestopheles
They are very, very awesome. Verily.
'Down Among the Deadmen' is a brilliant album.
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Decoy Lockbox
This sounds like the kind of question that a poorly informed parent would ask. "Where can I find some rave-dance music records?".
The thing is, the type of music that gets played at raves (Electronic Dance Music, or "EDM")
is as fiendishly varied, if not even more so than our beloved metal! The type of music that gets played at raves will also vary based on the time period and geographic location as well. For example, at raves in my area (Baltimore-DC-Northern Virginia),
electro-house,
drum'n'bass and
dubstep seem to be the "in vogue" styles, while my beloved
Goa and
Psy trance get left out in the cold :smallmad:
The point I'm trying to make is that I got dragged to a crapload of raves in 2010.
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all. My point is that while bands like Eluveitie or other folk-influenced bands have managed to take folk and effectively combine it with aggressive music styles such as Punk and Metal, I haven't see a combination that seems as "smooth" in Heavy Metal. Maybe its that I actually like Folk instrumentation better than dance music, though.
Edit: Also, its funny how I hate a lot of that music. Like, vehemently hate it and find it boring and stupid. That really only happens to a few small amount of metal: black metal.
edit 2: Is it just me or is the music you said you liked about ten times as good as the music thats popular in your area? :smalltongue: