Koorly: Argh, made it just in time then.
ralphpocketwatch: Mmm. Say what you will about the writing in this series, but I ****ing love this music.
ae: yay! people!
Hammer Birchgrove: hi
Hammer Birchgrove: New Dr Who, I presume?
ae: small problem with my new fibreoptic broadband has resulted in a slightly lower than average quality video
Hammer Birchgrove: aww :(
Koorly: Yep, Nu Who it is.
ae: i had better latency with Sky
ae: 1:30 remaining
Koorly: Where's this music coming from?
Koorly: Frick. I remember.
ae: the DVD
ae: :p
Koorly: You know what I mean, from the series! Meanie pants.
ae: heh
Koorly: It's Rose's theme isn't it? This always follows her around.
ae: i htink so
ae: in the words of a very dear vorlon:
ae: and so, it begins
Koorly: Can't even put the damn DVD on without being reminded of That Woman (not that one).
ae: oooo oooo ooooo
ralphpocketwatch: I think it's not so much Rose's theme as the Bad Wolf theme.
Koorly: Yay! Nine's theme. I miss this theme, think it's better than Eleven's, and much better than Ten's.
Koorly: @Thu: did you wiki that just to find out?
ralphpocketwatch: Nope.
ae: who gets up that early?
Koorly: Hi Earth! Look at this cold open just like in 'Remembrance'!
Koorly: COW!
Koorly: Now way is she nineteen stupid chavvy spoiled pink princess
Koorly: Nice views of London though.
ralphpocketwatch: Ah, Koorly's hurling abuse at the screen already.
Castaras: ***
Castaras: Goshdarnit
Castaras: Paynus
ralphpocketwatch: This will be a fun stream.
Koorly: Hi Cassie!
Koorly: Mickey, I like you!
ae: hi Dr nick
Hammer Birchgrove: 1st or 2nd season?
ae: 23rd
Koorly: (Although I got to admit Rose is more tolerable in the opening two minutes because she's HUMAN)
ae: :)
Castaras: She hasn't started talking yet
Hammer Birchgrove: I meant of the new series
Castaras: so I'm fine with watching a little longer
ae: bbom headshot
Koorly: Not so we can hear at least.
Castaras: but pretty much as soon as she talks I'm gonna be going back to might and magic again
Castaras: there we go.
Koorly: I don't get her eyebrows.
Castaras: annoying ***
Koorly: Aaaand she spoke.
Castaras: until later. :P
ralphpocketwatch: Eh, I don't mind Rose that much for this whole series.
Hammer Birchgrove: I thought she was cute
Koorly: And what's with her outift, I don't ever remember her not wearing it, 'cept in 'Unquiet Dead'.
ralphpocketwatch: It's series 2 she gets *really* annoying.
Hammer Birchgrove: She would play a hooker in another TV-series
Koorly: Nice atmosphere in this opening though. Sdmittedly a bit cliche, but it's Doctor Who.
Hammer Birchgrove: didn't follow that one
ralphpocketwatch: She wears the Union Flag top in Empty Child/Doctor Dances.
Koorly: Freakin' mannequins.
Koorly: @Birchgrove: but she's *hot* in that.
Hammer Birchgrove: Makes me think of Clayface
Koorly: Oh noes. Look. A locked door. Doesn't she know any horror cliches?
Hammer Birchgrove: In Batman comics
Koorly: And why don't she just *call* Wilson on her mobile?
Hammer Birchgrove: (the dolls, I mean)
ralphpocketwatch: They're in the basement.
ralphpocketwatch: Probably no reception.
Koorly: I like the autons here. Haven't seen the CLassic ones yet though.
ae: basically... Run.
Koorly: Sweetheart, there comes a time when denial is a bit stupid.
Hammer Birchgrove: didn't know there were classics of those
Koorly: This is not a joke. It's obvious.
Koorly: And she backed herself into a corner for kjarate chopping
ralphpocketwatch: Best entrance.
Koorly: HI NINE!
Koorly: Heh, five minutes and we have Running!
Hammer Birchgrove: pause?
Koorly: Then again. "Run for your life" *waves bomb*
ralphpocketwatch: I mean, I love Eleven, but I really do think that is the best entrance a Doctor has had in Nu Who thus far.
Koorly: What? *holds hands*, *grins* "Run!"
Koorly: Certainly encompasses everything Who in a nutshell.#
Hammer Birchgrove: I still love Bob Baker the most
ralphpocketwatch: Do you mean Tom Baker?
Hammer Birchgrove: ah yes
Hammer Birchgrove: sorry
ae: he's harmless
Koorly: How d'you mix those two names up?
Hammer Birchgrove: I dunno
Koorly: Did we miss something?
Koorly: Eh.
ae: back on-line
Koorly: "I'm the Doctor by the way, what's your name?"
Koorly: "Rose"
Koorly: "Nice to meet you Rose, run for your life"
Koorly: Best entrance.
Koorly: Introduction even.
Koorly: It's the manic grin and Obvious Bomb that does it.
ae: i have a stoolen arm in my hands
Koorly: And there goes the special effects budget for the episode.
Koorly: Hi TARDIS!
Hammer Birchgrove: her mother
Hammer Birchgrove: uuuurgh
ae: slap
Koorly: Hey, anyone think that explosion got a bit awkward post 7/7?
Hammer Birchgrove: her boyfriend
Hammer Birchgrove: Blearg
Koorly: Pardon my language, but screw Jackie.
Koorly: This is such a chav family.
Koorly: And hello tea.
Hammer Birchgrove: a kid friendly chav family :p
Koorly: Just got nearly killed? Have tea, then try and drag girlfriend down pub.
Hammer Birchgrove: no knives
Koorly: I like Mickey. He's sweet. He makes Rose human.
ralphpocketwatch: Jackie and Mickey - masters of tact.
ralphpocketwatch: But yeah, Mickey's alright.
Koorly: OMINOUS CLOSE UP TO SHOW THIS IS FORESHADOWING EVIL.
ralphpocketwatch: So is Jackie to an extent.
ralphpocketwatch: More so later on though.
Hammer Birchgrove: I hate those alarm clocks
Koorly: Honestly. Pink?
Koorly: Her walls are a nice colour though.
Koorly: Racism and abuse of government monies. Yeah, this is the UK.
Koorly: Hello evil cat-like arm!
Koorly: Time to murder.
Koorly: Oh, it's only Nine.
ralphpocketwatch: Bonehead.
Koorly: Mit sonic screwdriver,
ae: heh
ae: screwdriver in my pocket
Hammer Birchgrove: MILF
Hammer Birchgrove: :p
Koorly: uurrrrrrrrrgh.
Koorly: Totally agree with Nine. Jackie's a . . . tart.
ralphpocketwatch: I like how he seemed to be oblivious of what Jackie was implying up to the end there.
Koorly: Oh! From that bit with the mirror we know that he only reccently regenerated!
ae: bad effect was bad
Koorly: Funny background event is funny.
Koorly: And was that a - oh god.
Koorly: Lampshading the stupidness of the effect and then making it happen. Genius. I don't know how, but it is.
Koorly: So. Bad. :D
ae: no i don't
Koorly: I love this long shot.
Hammer Birchgrove: annoying music
Koorly: Hate the background music though, honestly Murray Gold, what were you like?
Koorly: "Are you the police?"
Koorly: No. He's the Doctor.
ae: sort of yeah
ae: mmmmm chips
Koorly: *is having lag*
ralphpocketwatch: It's frozen up for me.
Koorly: Could go for some chips myself though.
ae: now?
Koorly: still froze.
ae: now?
Koorly: Nope.
Hammer Birchgrove: still
Koorly: For me at least it froze just after "Are you the police?"
ralphpocketwatch: Likewise.
ae: try re-loading the page... it always worked for me
ralphpocketwatch: Well, for me it was after "Are you the-" but basically the same.
ae: now?
ae: still saying "perfect streaming"
Koorly: Just F5'd, shot has clearly moved on, waiting for it to load though.
Koorly: There we go. Rose's theme.
Koorly: Doctor goes to TARDIS, Rose walks off, and hello vworp noise!
ralphpocketwatch: Oh man, I missed the speech about the Earth turning.
Koorly: There was a speech about that?
Koorly: Oh yes!
Hammer Birchgrove: I love the Tardis engine noise
Koorly: So military drumming mixed with Rose's theme? I call foreshadowing.
Koorly: Oh God. Thpse computers.
ae: everyone OK now/
Koorly: And she FakeGoogled the Doctor.
Koorly: Hi shout out!
ae: i've resized a bit so you can see the current time
Koorly: It's a VW Bug.
Koorly: Bring on the crappy bin effect.
Koorly: And pasltic!Mickey.
Koorly: plastic*
Koorly: Is it me, or is Clive familiar?
ae: he should be
Koorly: Do like that the conspiracy nutter is relatively normal. Bar the conspiracy bit.
Hammer Birchgrove: wifey is cool with him inviting young women
ralphpocketwatch: Well, of course his conspiracy theory is actually true.
Koorly: @AE: FINE. Is that actor who plays the Doctor familiar to anyone else?
Koorly: Also: hi obvious photoshopping.
ae: you mean eccleson
[[Interrupting here to say, I am an idiot, and meant, 'the actor who played Clive'. My brain. Oddly, the actor is Mark Benton. And Cpl. Benton was in the last serial I reviewed. Coincidence? Or is it time to cue the X Files music?]]
Koorly: And when you consider that earlier the Doctor checked himself out in the mirror as he'd not seen himself properly before this is a plot hole.
ralphpocketwatch: Of course, this stuff kind of goes against the Doctor having only recently regenerated.
Hammer Birchgrove: "did you have nice sex with the cute chav girl?"
Koorly: That Woman is not cute.
Koorly: HERE COMES THE BIN!
Koorly: It's so awful.
ae: nomomomom
Hammer Birchgrove: he's a time traveller though
ralphpocketwatch: But I like to imagine he went off and did those things at the end of the episode before coming back to tell Rose the TARDIS travels in time.
Koorly: Bet there's someone behind pushing it along.
Koorly: Just outside of camera.
ae: he just hasn't seen a mirror in a while
Koorly: Here it comes . . .
ralphpocketwatch: Yeah, but if he did those things after this episode Rose would've been there as well.
Koorly: (Do like that Clive info-dumps the Doctor = danger)
Koorly: Hehehehhehehe
Koorly: Look at that effect.
Koorly: Just look at it.
Hammer Birchgrove: burp
Koorly: It's awful and then omnomnomnom*burp*
ae: don't i could do something better on photoshop
Koorly: Oh, Murray GOld did okay with the suspenseful music just then "I think he's immortal, I think he's an alien from another world"
Koorly: That bit was nice.
Hammer Birchgrove: Plastic Mickey
Koorly: Hello plastic!
ralphpocketwatch: "Your champagne."
Koorly: How *bad* a girfriend is That Woman if she can't tell something is right fricking wrong there.
Koorly: Hi Doctor!
ae: pop
ralphpocketwatch: I think she can tell something's wrong, but she doesn't know what.
Koorly: Oh God these plastic effects. I was righter than I knew when I joked they spent all the budget on the explosion from earlier.
Koorly: Pizza flipper hands go smash! very ineffectually.
ralphpocketwatch: Because people need to be *told* to run from the plastic axe-hand monster?
Koorly: Oii. COW, you saw the TARDIS vworp away earlier, use that miniscule brain you have.
Koorly: It's not *that hard*
Hammer Birchgrove: whoa
ralphpocketwatch: She didn't see it dematerialise though.
ralphpocketwatch: She saw it, and then it wasn't there.
Hammer Birchgrove: It's
Hammer Birchgrove: Bigger
Koorly: She saw the box was there, then vworp vworp and it was gone.
Hammer Birchgrove: In
Hammer Birchgrove: The
Koorly: Not hard to figure out.
ralphpocketwatch: It could, in theory, have just been moved.
Hammer Birchgrove: Inside!
Koorly: Then again, That WOman is a moron.
Koorly: @Tuf: by what?
Koorly: She didn't hear or see no cars nor planes nor nothing.
Koorly: *Thu
ralphpocketwatch: I'm not saying she's thought this through in detail.
Hammer Birchgrove: Stealth helicopters :p
Koorly: It's been a long time since I seen Nine's TARDIS interior.
Koorly: It's nice.
ralphpocketwatch: Alternatively, she just doesn't trust her own memory.
Koorly: Also, did she start crying when she found out that aliens were real.
ralphpocketwatch: (Last time I saw this TARDIS interior - The Doctor's Wife)
Koorly: And since then I seen Two's interior, Seven's interior and Eleven's interior.
Koorly: And Ten's.
ae: something big...
ae: and metal...
ralphpocketwatch: Ironically, Doctor says "The signal, it's fading" and then the stream goes black for me.
ae: are you back yet?
Koorly: I am.
Koorly: HELLO RTD'S POLLUTION AESOP!
Koorly: Da fu' is anti-plastic?
Koorly: Is it wood?
Koorly: I do like this bit.
ralphpocketwatch: Wait, there was a pollution thing in this episode as well?
Hammer Birchgrove: UV light :p
Koorly: This is the only time That Woman is subtle.
ae: heh
Koorly: And I love how they halo'd the Doctor with the Eye.
Koorly: Running!
ralphpocketwatch: Love that grin.
Koorly: Don't like this piece of music.
ralphpocketwatch: And the "Fantastic"
ae: that bus doesn't use that bridge
Hammer Birchgrove: he should play a Batman villain
Koorly: *kinda ships Rose/Nine because of the spontaneous hand holding*
ralphpocketwatch: Rose/Nine is acceptable shipping.
Koorly: Red and steamy? Must be Evil.
ralphpocketwatch: Of course.
Koorly: See also: The Impossible Planet/[something something]
ralphpocketwatch: Doctor Who villains are generally very considerate with their easily identifiable colour-scheme.
Koorly: D: "I'm not here to kill it, I've got to give it a chance"
ae: shadow proc.
Koorly: Also, is the Shadow Proclamation ever mentioned again?
ralphpocketwatch: Yes.
Koorly: In a SPOILER way?
ae: for you... yes
Koorly: I love how disdainful of That Woman the Doctor is.
Hammer Birchgrove: classy doctor
ralphpocketwatch: Well, it's not a big spoiler, but yes, it's in an episode you haven't watched yet.
Hammer Birchgrove: "keep the domestics outside"
Koorly: Hey, guys, this lava monster was done so much cooler in 'The Fires of Pompeii'.
ae: more money for the effects
Koorly: I prefered Eleven's IIIII AAAAMMMMM TAAAAALLLLLKKIIINNNNGGG
Hammer Birchgrove: Excuse me doc, we flew to the moon
Koorly: I hate this Goddamn ending.
Hammer Birchgrove: THE WAR
Koorly: And how did the autons finds and carry that TARDIS without no one seeing it?
Koorly: Also, hello Time War!
Koorly: All the sadness.
ae: kill them all
Hammer Birchgrove: late night shopping
Koorly: Love this: world ending? Call your daughter/mother1
Koorly: !*
Koorly: You know where I seen better lightning effects? Star Wars (original trilogy).
Koorly: And web review series.
ae: pew
Koorly: All things considered, the autons are actually pretty creepy for being nothing but mannequins.
ralphpocketwatch: Poor Clive.
Koorly: Aaaawwww, bye Clive. :(
Hammer Birchgrove: :(
Koorly: Also: how weak is the Doctor he can't even wrestle out of a mannequin's arms?
ae: memo: i'm probably a few seconds ahead of you
ralphpocketwatch: They're pretty strong mannequins.
Koorly: And I love too how the suton is POORLY HOLDING THE ONE THING THAT CAN KILL THEM ALL.
Hammer Birchgrove: piezo-electric plastics are actually 10 times stronger than human muscles
Koorly: (no, I'm slow typoing.commenting/thinking of things)
Koorly: *typing/commenting
Hammer Birchgrove: (actually real thing)
Koorly: Oh my God. Hands up shoulder heightand screaming.
Koorly: So 1950s.
ae: no, i KNOW i'm at least a second infront
Koorly: Doctor: you have legs, kick the auton into the nestene consciousness.
Koorly: Rose: "No A LEvels, no job, no future", and a bronze gymnastics medal.
ralphpocketwatch: She also almost let her mother die by waiting to make that speech before doing anything.
Koorly: That Woman is such a loser.
ae: she just committed genocide
ralphpocketwatch: Nah, there are other Nestene.
Koorly: And that is how mannequins have seizures.
Koorly: Plastic + anti-plastic = explosion.
Hammer Birchgrove: How can people forget that lots of peeps got killed by plastic robots?
Koorly: Somehow I'd thought it wuold cancel each other out.
Hammer Birchgrove: Like matter + anti-matter!
Koorly: Now comes the bit where I want to *murder* Rose.
ralphpocketwatch: N'awww.
ae: cowering in the corner
Koorly: GOD DAMN SON OF A *** *** SELF-OBSESSED NARCISSTIC COW WHY DO YOU EVEN HANG UP ON YOUR MOTHER AFTER AN ALIEN INVASION YOU FILTHY DISGUSTING HORRIBLE LITTLE ***!!!!!!!!!!
Hammer Birchgrove: D:
Koorly: HAAAAAAAATTTTTEEEEEEE!!!!!
Hammer Birchgrove: He's a thing!
Koorly: (B-itch; w-hore, b-itch in that order)
Hammer Birchgrove: aww Mickey
ae: if my girlfriend discribed me as a stupid lump i'd dump the ***!
Hammer Birchgrove: and people complain about Robin in Batman :p
Koorly: Seriously, wo, AFTER NEARLY DYING AND KNOWING YOUR MOTHER WAS IN THAT
SELF-SAME POSITION WOULD HANG UP ON THEIR MOTHER?!?!?!?!?!?!
Koorly: Not even TALK TO HER TO LET HER KNOW YOU WERE OKAY?!?!
Koorly: D: "Did I mention, it also travels in time." Awesome.
Hammer Birchgrove: lulz
ralphpocketwatch: Is it bad I find Koorly's murderous desires cute?
Koorly: R: "Thanks."
Koorly: M: Thanks for what?"
Koorly: r: "eXACTLY"
Hammer Birchgrove: stupid doctor
Koorly: ***
murder!
ralphpocketwatch: (Also, **** this laptop overheating on me)
Hammer Birchgrove: bringing with the load
Koorly: Preview thoughts: nice. Interesting, intriguing, lovely effects.
Koorly: (That last asterisked bit was
[[rather rude]])
Hammer Birchgrove: :p
Koorly: Stream off for anyone else?
ralphpocketwatch: Also, I still like my theory that the Doctor went and did the stuff Clive had pictures of between asking Rose to come with him and coming back after realising he didn't tell her it travelled in time.
ralphpocketwatch: Yeah, it's off for me.
Koorly: Mkay then.
Koorly: I'm starving, but dinner's not for an hour. Sadfacetiem.
ralphpocketwatch: I don't actually know when dinner is for me.
ralphpocketwatch: Ah. Not for another two hours.
Hammer Birchgrove: Not too keen on season one
Koorly: *is editing through liveblog now to delete duplicated bits.
Koorly: Oh!
Hammer Birchgrove: aside from the Dalek episodes
Koorly:
Best moment: Nine's introduction. It's fast-paced, energetic, and sums up the Doctor perfectly. Nice smile, save someone's life, running, polite and manic and, of course, more running just before blowing something up. What more do you need.
Hammer Birchgrove: I *love* The Last Dalek
ae: sorry about that
ralphpocketwatch: Dalek is good.
Koorly:
Worst moment: the end. Way to show off your Companion by having her callously discard everyone who loves her. This is when I started to dislike Rose. Seriously,
who does that to people?!
ralphpocketwatch: The Moffat episodes are good.
Koorly:
Best actor: Ecclestone. Fantastic energy and verve.
Koorly:
Worst actor: Whoever played Jackie.
ralphpocketwatch: Some of the others are alright.
Koorly: Or, if I'm feeling especially mean, Bilie Piper because the way she plays That Woman makes me want to strangle them.
ralphpocketwatch: TBH, I'm pretty OK with all of the first three episodes actually.
ae: is it back on for you now?
Koorly:
best special effect: the explosion at the beginning.
Koorly: (YES!)
ralphpocketwatch: Yeah, it's back.
Koorly:
Worst special effect: Omnomnom bin and plastic!Mickey.
Koorly:
Kink of the episode: None.
ralphpocketwatch: Though that was hilariously bad.
Koorly: That everything I normally do?
Koorly: Yes.
Koorly: I think.
Thoughts overall?
A very solid first episode that revives and introduces a show with a forty year history. The action is solid, the acting is generally very good, and I can see what the direction was going for with Rose the 'every girl' even if (in my opinion) it went horribly wrong.
The effects aren't good now, and they weren't at the time, but aside from that the direction and atmosphere was usually very good. The music was shaky in comparison to the next episode or two, and Murray GOld can and will most definitely do better.
‘The End of the World’
[[And as you can see, I lost a fair bit of this, and I don't know why either. In short, I loved the special effects and the costumes for the various aliens.]]
Koorly: (In a moment)
Koorly: And isn't it paradoxical to tell someone you need permission to talk before they have eprmission to talk?
Koorly: Writer: Look at me and m,y anvils talking about the working class being the new servants.
ae: well... if you don't know then how do you find out
Koorly: ANVIIIILLLLLLL!
ralphpocketwatch: I like the blue plumber lady.
Koorly: Oh yeah, she's lovely.
ae: bye plumber lady!
Koorly: Incoming angst!
Koorly: Watch me cry. Ohwait. I don't like you and will relentlessly bash you against all reason!
Hammer Birchgrove: RUUUUUUN
Koorly: Naaawwww, whosa kyoot widdle spider fing.
Hammer Birchgrove: working class hero
Hammer Birchgrove: RUUUUUUN
Koorly: Oh, wook at you gonna eat her face, but you so kyoot, killin all dese servant plumber types and ripping her flesh off.
Hammer Birchgrove: :(
ralphpocketwatch: Red dots of doooooom.
Koorly: And R2D2 is canon with Doctor Who/.
Hammer Birchgrove: is he?
Koorly: Sounds like him.
Hammer Birchgrove: cross-over?
ralphpocketwatch: Didn't you hear the beeping?
Hammer Birchgrove: nope
ae: robospider kill...
ae: aw....
Koorly: R: "Talking to a twig" FML.
Koorly: Adorable midgets!
Koorly: Probably I shouldn't call them that should I?
ralphpocketwatch: You'd think the Doctor would've noticed the robo-spiders there.
Hammer Birchgrove: better than dwarves
Koorly: R: "They're just ao alien. The aliens, are so alien. Youi look at them, and they're alien."
Koorly: *has a Red Dwarf flashback*
Hammer Birchgrove: Deeeep
Koorly: Yay! Translator microbes!
Hammer Birchgrove: Bablefish
Koorly: Incoming *actual* angst I like!
Koorly: Isn't it kind of masochistic when, after destroying your own planet and people, you then go off and see your second home planet die.
ae: nokia
Koorly: Those phones are bricks now compared to today-phones.
ralphpocketwatch: I know someone who still has a phone like that one.
ae: indestructable nokia meme
Koorly: Rose calls mum, I have a flashback to '42'.
Koorly: No. My phone's black and a little thinner than hers thankyouverymuch.
ralphpocketwatch: I wasn't talking about you.
Koorly: Also: marvellous bit of redirection there Doctor, giving her a magic phone.
ralphpocketwatch: Our rehearsal pianist in NUGSS.
Koorly: @Thu: I was temped to reference my own phone so.
ralphpocketwatch: Has a really old phone.
Koorly: You know, having R2D2 as a computer makes it easy to exposit things doesn't it?
Koorly: That robo-spider is my favourite.
ralphpocketwatch: You'd think it would require more than one button push to kill yourself.
ralphpocketwatch: I mean, what if he just lost his balance and did it by accident?
Koorly: Spider: You see me? You see me? Well, see me push this one exact button I need to kill you! And I look so adorable doing it! No wonder you couldn't kill me when you had the chance!"
Koorly: Hey guys, you think RTD knew the Face of Boe was Jack even now?
ralphpocketwatch: Probably not.
Koorly: Rose got called a concubine and a prostitute!
ae: heh jackson
Koorly: *hugs for Lady Cheem*!
Koorly: Majel: "Earth death in fifteen minutes" Trans: episode end in eighteen minutes.
Koorly: Oh look, Titanic reference.
ae: heh "Majel"
Koorly: Also, the Doctor mustive; been the only person to be on the Titanic twice when it sank,
ae: boy?
Koorly: @AE: Yes. All computer voices are Majel now.
ralphpocketwatch: Even GLaDOS?
Koorly: Cassandra: "I am the last
pure human." Hello supremacist!
ae: the Cardassian computer wasn't Majel
Koorly: And obvious parody of plastic surgery.
Koorly: @AE: Was the Cardassian computer male?
ae: TRAMPOPOLINE!
Koorly: That was a good line.
Koorly: It's amazing how no one's questioning the fact that a tree evolved into a humanoid.
Hammer Birchgrove: I thought it was the opposite
Koorly: But fridge logic later, we have Tiem Lords now.
Hammer Birchgrove: human evolved into trees?
ae: Judi M. Durand
Koorly: Cheem: "I know where you're from" Not creepy at all.
ae: tree lords?
Hammer Birchgrove: damn she's hot
Koorly: @Birchgrove: "My ancestors were trsnplanted from below [...] I'm a direct descendant of a tropical ranforest"
Hammer Birchgrove: I feel ashamed over being a book reader
ae: she'll be hotter in a bit...
Hammer Birchgrove: opps :p
Koorly: HELLO GALAXY QUEST REFERENCE!
Koorly: Or rather, I want to make one.
Hammer Birchgrove: *** SLAP
Koorly: @AE: *rolls 2d6 for pun damage*
Hammer Birchgrove: needs a tentacle lady for Galaxy Quest
Koorly: D: "Hey, nice liana"
ae: @ CKG : why would anyone put that there...
Koorly: C: "Thank you."
Koorly: And there's your tenacle lady Birchgrove.
ae: it makes no logical sense
Hammer Birchgrove: where?
Koorly: @AE: *grins*
Koorly: Liana. Tentacle.
ae: mmmmm bacon
Hammer Birchgrove: Britney Spears!
Koorly: I don';t know how to feel about Britney Spears being the background music now.
Koorly: It's . . . a bit obvious no?
ae: could be disco inofern
ae: *inferno
Koorly: Burn Rosey burn.
ae: here comes the summer sun
Koorly: Here comes summer (doo doo doo doo doo)
ralphpocketwatch: The sun filter is totally trolling the Doctor.
Koorly: Dammit, she's still alive.
Hammer Birchgrove: Ipswich!
ae: he's "toast"
Koorly: *giggles*
Koorly: C: "Talk to the face! Talk to the face!"
Koorly: 'Cos the hand can't ever know.
Koorly: Cassandra just rolled her eyes at the Doctor's pseudo-philosophical talk.
Koorly: D: "Five billion years and it still comes down to money".
Koorly: Cynical.
Hammer Birchgrove: I SEE THE BRAIN VAT
ae: swift kicking time
Koorly: I forgot disco inferno was in this serial.
ae: so did I
Koorly: O RLY? *dubious face*
Koorly: Did Cassandra just make aan orgasm joke?!
Koorly: She so did!
Hammer Birchgrove: ayup
ralphpocketwatch: Yep.
ae: so woodwoman come with me
Koorly: Doctor Who: For children!
Koorly: That's a good point actually, why he bring a woman made of wood into a VERY HOT PLACE INDEED?
ae: start running moron
ralphpocketwatch: Because he trusts her?
Hammer Birchgrove: for DRAMA
ae: no explain say thanks then run!
Koorly: Nearly two episodes in and we get a species drop!
ralphpocketwatch: And he didn't realise the switch would be so inconveniently situated.
Koorly: Is that a train whistle I just heard?
Koorly: For reals?
ae: keep running moron
Koorly: But if he runs then there is less drama!
ae: cooked blue dude
Koorly: If he ran there's a good chance Lady Cheem'd live!
Koorly: And then where would our semi-forced drama and tears be?!
Koorly: Did you think of that Archie? No!
ae: use timelord powers
Koorly: He could have sonicked the lever couldn't he? Or the blades?
Koorly: Screw you Rose's them!
Koorly: The way youi intercut between the two just then makes it seem as if the Doctor's doing this ONLY TO SAVE ROSE!
Koorly: \a;jhf\ad
Koorly: HE IS NOT!
ae: you see I'd be the supervillan who just shoots the spy rather than explining my plans to him
Koorly: Love these special effects.
Koorly: Wait.
ae: i need a new cricket bat
Hammer Birchgrove: she should have 3rd degree burns
Koorly: They put the Instantly Repair Everything Perfectly Button on the other side of a death trap walkway?
Hammer Birchgrove: and skin cancer
Koorly: Who is there builder?!
Koorly: their*
Koorly: Because they need to sue someone now.
Koorly: Rose: faced the undiluted rays of the sun and got slightly firzzy hair.
Koorly: Blue fat dude: faced the undiluted rays of the sun and turned into ashes.
Koorly: Lady Cheem: spontaneously combusted due to heat build up in order to save lives.
Koorly: Rosehatetiem.
Hammer Birchgrove: Rose is a mutant
ralphpocketwatch: Stream offline?
Hammer Birchgrove: That must be it
ae: back on
Hammer Birchgrove: still pic
ae: paused
Hammer Birchgrove: works
Koorly: Aaaand the slow slow death.
Koorly: I like this because we see just how ruthless he is.
Koorly: Effects of the time war and all that.
Hammer Birchgrove: but but but brain is still left
Koorly: First episode: offers mercy.
ae: the builder really needs to sue their contractors
Hammer Birchgrove: did her brain boil?
Koorly: Second episode: straight up cold-blooded murder.
ralphpocketwatch: Ten talks about how he's less merciful than he used to be, but Nine did it so much better.
ae: hardly murder
ae: just not helping
Hammer Birchgrove: More like Batman in Batman Begins
Hammer Birchgrove: "I won't kill you... but I won't help you"
Koorly: *still ships Nine/Rose*
Koorly: It's tender okay.
Koorly: God Rose's eyebrows are massive.
Koorly: *also loves this ending*
Hammer Birchgrove: is she fake blonde?
Hammer Birchgrove: her eye brows look dark
Koorly: Did the stream cut out in the middle of that speech?
Hammer Birchgrove: yeah
Koorly: It always cuts during Drama, I think it's allergic.
ae: back
Koorly: D: "I'm a Time Lord. The last of the TIme Lords. They're all gone. I'm the only surivivor" Until 'Utopia'.
ae: really need to speak to Virgin about this
Hammer Birchgrove: well if the Daleks could survive
Koorly: Also: I'm guessing that for Classic fans that line was a BIG game changer.
Hammer Birchgrove: yeah
Koorly: R: "What sort of date are you? Come on then [blurred] chips are on me."
Hammer Birchgrove: oooh
Koorly: Preview thoughts: Time for the Unquiet Dead!
Hammer Birchgrove: the Charles Dickens ep
Koorly: I'll do the bests etc. later.
It's later!
Best Moment: Ehm. It's less than two hours after watching, and I can't think of anything that wouldn't go under a different category. Ah! Rose nearly died! It was also tense and dramatic and stuff, but mainly this is me hating Rose.
A runner up would be the remarkable preservation of five billion year old earth object, especially the juke box. And I loved the songs they'd chosen even if they were a bit heavy handed.
Worst Moment: The
Galaxy Quest walkway of death. It worked in
Galaxy Quest because it was a
comedy about classic science-fiction, most particularly
Star Trek: TOS. It does not belong on a
tourist viewpoint. Especially when the Repair Everything Perfectly button rests just on the other side of two whirling blades of death.
Best Actor: Ecclestone owns it all again! He has great chemistry with everyone he interacts with, and you can see his pain in his actions and expressions, and look. Eleven is
mine, but Nine is just really good at the whole 'tormented man who had to destroy untold numbers of people and species in a war that wiped out his entire people, and is now desperately trying to regain some of his
joie de vivre and happiness' thing. Also he's really charismatic when he flirts, and he is the only Doctor with whom I would ship Rose. And I hate her! That's how good he is at what he does, he actually makes me think Rose is a nice person at times.
Runner up to Cassandra for being made of pure ham.
Worst Actor: Eh, the steward. He was okay, but he didn't stand out.
Best Special Effect: the sun expanding. You could feel the heat, and it was so vivid. This show does suns and stars in general wonderfully. And the makeup for the tree people.
Worst Special Effect: The Repeated Meme group. It was probably deliberate, but it wasn't very good anyway.
Kink of the Episode: Soft Cell's 'Tainted Love'. I love that song.
Thoughts overall?
I do think that the eventual motivation for murder is money. But aside from that this episode isn't as strong as it could be, it's just that there are some ridiculous plot holes/concepts (see
Worst Moment) found right alongside the honestly thought provoking ideas of cynical/optimistic views on the survival of humans; on transience and immortality in general. And though I find the Plastic Surgery Is Stupid anvil a bit heavy, it's also funny.
And I
loved the Doctor's darker side coming out firmly on top, probably exacerbated by the whole 'torturing self by seeing his second home die' thing and Cassandra's self-centred nature. It shows how dangerous the Doctor can be, and I agree with Thufir that while Ten talks about being so dark and dangerous, Nine gives off the more serious attitude and is very believable in his quiet way. You get one warning, and then you're gone.
‘Unquiet Dead’
Hammer Birchgrove: the Charles Dickens ep
Koorly: I'll do the bests etc. later.
Hammer Birchgrove: I like this one
ae: who needs previews when you have the episode coming up in a sec
Koorly: I have a format.
Hammer Birchgrove: uh oh
Koorly: Hello ghost zombie person!
ae: boom
ae: headshot
Koorly: Totally commonplace in Cardiff these are.
ae: zombies...
Koorly: Heehehe, she's making stereotypical ghost noises.
ae: a agree, i've been to Cardiff
ralphpocketwatch: Oh, I forgot this was Mark Gatiss.
Koorly: I love Mark Gatiss
ralphpocketwatch: It's Gwen Cooper!
ralphpocketwatch: Only not really.
Koorly: He's such a Mycroft.
ae: i'm /telling/ you
Koorly: Loving the Welshness.
Hammer Birchgrove: "Who're you gonna call????"
ae: Torchwo... NVM
Hammer Birchgrove: ... Ghostbusters!
Hammer Birchgrove: :-P
Koorly: Blech. Just saw my liveblog for last episode. Lost the first . . . ten or so minutes of it. Solution: will c&p lots and lots and lots.
Koorly: Oh my word! Someone's actually dressing in period clothing!
Koorly: For once!
Hammer Birchgrove: yay!
Koorly: Does that ever happen again?!
ralphpocketwatch: Occasionally?
ralphpocketwatch: Maybe?
Hammer Birchgrove: technically, denim would be period dressing
Hammer Birchgrove: if you're an American gold digger :p
Koorly: Inexplicably psychic servant scries for zombies.
Koorly: And pulls a Charles Xavier.
Koorly: MUTTON COPS!
Hammer Birchgrove: Dickens
Koorly: Hello Simon Callow! I recognise you from somewhere.
Koorly: *CHOPS*
Koorly: Should totally have got her Dickens timeline just for this episode.
Koorly: . . .
Koorly: Look! I studied okay.
Koorly: Taliesin lodge?! Is this a shoutout to *that* Taliesin?!
Koorly: If it is that is so awesome I might even :D
Hammer Birchgrove: ???
Koorly:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliesin
Hammer Birchgrove: thanks
Koorly: The Book of Taliesin is one of the first records we have for Arthurian myths and things./
Hammer Birchgrove: aha
Hammer Birchgrove: who-ho
ae: snow angel time!
Hammer Birchgrove: bewbs
Hammer Birchgrove: or, skin anyway
Koorly: Also: Taliesin wrote lots about Welsh history.
Hammer Birchgrove: cool guy
Koorly: Yay! Actual Victorian style readings
Hammer Birchgrove: mr T
ae: i pitty the fool
Koorly: And look at that Totally Not Obvious Death Glare being given by the zombie.
ralphpocketwatch: Ah, God rest ye merry gentlemen.
ralphpocketwatch: The Doctor Who carol.
ae: brains
Koorly: O tidings of comfort and joy, comfort and joy.
Koorly: Irony? Yes.
ralphpocketwatch: As it has pretty much become.
Koorly: "It's not Naples."
Hammer Birchgrove: Cardiff!
ralphpocketwatch: 9 years out, in Cardiff.
Koorly: R: "I don't care."
Koorly: D: "It's Cardiff."
ralphpocketwatch: Thanks Sexy.
Koorly: R: " . . .right."
Hammer Birchgrove: Temporal G!PS malfunctioning
Koorly: Dat hat.
ralphpocketwatch: Ironically, this episode was filmed in Swansea.
Koorly: Second row back centre-left.
Hammer Birchgrove: damn keyboard is frakking up
Koorly: It's huge.
Hammer Birchgrove: ****e
Hammer Birchgrove: eeeeeeek!!!
Koorly: Ah, the Doctors all have the same reaction to weird things; they fall in love.
Koorly: Was that casual racism towrds the Irish I just saw?
ae: heh, chloroform
Hammer Birchgrove: or ether
Koorly: And then chloroforming and kidnapping.
Koorly: Doctor Who: For children!
Hammer Birchgrove: It's made of gas!
Koorly: Ah, the Doctors all have the same reaction to weird things; they fall in love.
Koorly: Was that casual racism towrds the Irish I just saw?
ae: heh, chloroform
Hammer Birchgrove: or ether
Koorly: And then chloroforming and kidnapping.
Koorly: Doctor Who: For children!
Hammer Birchgrove: It's made of gas!
Koorly: And points for the accuracy regarding Dickens' scepticism.
Koorly: Fanboy tiem!
Koorly: The Doctor: Charles Dickens! You're brilliant you are! :D
Hammer Birchgrove: fan comes from fanatic
Hammer Birchgrove: and now he said it
Koorly: Oh yay, linguistics stuff!
Hammer Birchgrove: :-P
Koorly: Nineteen and no A Levels? Jesus Christ.
ae: gas her
Koorly: :D
Koorly: More mutton chops.
Koorly: On second thoughts, I like the Gelf noises.
Koorly: Veyr eerie.
ralphpocketwatch: Gelth.
Koorly: Close enough.
ralphpocketwatch: GELF's are from Red Dwarf.
ae: what the shakesphere
ae: heh
Koorly: Best curse ever.
Koorly: I have stolen it.
ralphpocketwatch: Wait, I didn't mean to put that apostrophe there.
Koorly: Rose: cannot tell the dead from the living.
Koorly: Because zombie films, whose seen them?
ae: not someone from 2005
Koorly: I do like the concept of gas aliens by the way.
ralphpocketwatch: Sadly, I don't think "What the Dickens" actually refers to Charles Dickens, so "What the Shakespeare makes less sense.
Hammer Birchgrove: I think Dickens come from **** :p
Koorly: Hello compulsive lying Gelths.
Hammer Birchgrove: oh she knows zombies now
ralphpocketwatch: And now you give me tea to make up for it! Naturally.
ralphpocketwatch: So British.
ae: attempting to re-connect
Koorly: It's a shame they didn't apportion the budget equally because the special effects really take a turn for the worse in aa few episodes.
ae: streaming is back
ralphpocketwatch: You mean the Slitheen?
ae: resuming
Koorly: Aye.
ralphpocketwatch: That's the next episode.
ralphpocketwatch: She read the Doctor's mind to know how he takes his tea?
Koorly: She's a servant: they make tea.
ae: she knew 2 shugars because she's a servernt
Koorly: Tch.This man buys a house knowing it's reputed to be haunted, and gets scared when scary things happen.
Koorly: Men.
ae: sugars servant
Koorly: Hello sceptic!Dickens!
Koorly: Watch you manhandle corpses shall we? Sure, after all, it was only worth decades in prison minimum getting caught defiling the dead.
Hammer Birchgrove: hey, defiling the death is a time honored tradition among Victorian scientists
Koorly: Yeah. WITH PERMISSION. And only with those hanged for crimes.
Hammer Birchgrove: I see
Koorly: Oh no. Classism time again.
Koorly: Watch the working class women bond over disparate cultural ideologies.
Hammer Birchgrove: but they don't mention Dicken's anti-semitism
Koorly: Oh frick. BadWolftiemnoaw.
Hammer Birchgrove: or how he hated Inuits
Koorly: @Birchgrove: that's because classim and sexism is a-okay!
Hammer Birchgrove: heh
Koorly: Racism on the other hand, no. So we'll clean up all our historical figures so the children don't get any bad ideas.
Koorly: You know, aside from that kidnapping and manhandling corpses and sniffing gas is fine.
Hammer Birchgrove: asnd
Koorly: Also, is the audio really quiet for anyone else?
Hammer Birchgrove: and bins eating people
Koorly: I can barely hear this chat they're having.
Hammer Birchgrove: I had to crank it up on the max
Koorly: I AM on max (my laptop has crappy audio)
ae: better?
Hammer Birchgrove: on my lappie and on my stereo
Koorly: Though I am distracted by Rose's shoulders.
ralphpocketwatch: It's quieter now I've taken my headphones out.
ae: better?
Koorly: halp. chat lag.
Hammer Birchgrove: both on my lappie and on my stereo
ralphpocketwatch: But that's a general thing.
Koorly: xcvbn
Hammer Birchgrove: can you see what I type
Hammer Birchgrove: I've watched too much porn
ae: better?
Koorly: That's better, thanks.
Hammer Birchgrove: oh dear
Hammer Birchgrove: Thanks
Koorly: And chatcaught up with itself.
Koorly: By the by, did they ever explain Gwyn's inexplicable psychic owers?
Hammer Birchgrove: was going to say: I keep expecting the ladies to start sexy time.
ae: you're lucky you didn't get deaffened because of the lag
Hammer Birchgrove: conference!
Koorly: I would very definitely not be opposed to lady sexytiem.
ae: invent the ouigi board
ralphpocketwatch: I think the psychic powers are because of the rift?
Koorly: Oh, and backtracking, I like how they breiefly touched on the Victorian fascination with sceances and the like.
Koorly: Shame Conan Doyle wasn't mentioned as a contemporary foil to Dickens' scepticism.
Hammer Birchgrove: ayup
ae: kill them all
Koorly: I've seen this special effect somewhere else.
ae: oops nine.
Koorly: OH LOOK. WE SHALL PLAY ON THE TIME LORD'S EXISTENCE GUILT TO
DESTROY EVERYTHING.
ralphpocketwatch: It's a pretty good plan.
Koorly: Guilt is a powerful motivator.
Hammer Birchgrove: For once, Rose is right
ralphpocketwatch: Especially for the Doctor.
Koorly: Oooh yay! Values dissonance. 'It's a corpse, it's not needed any more'.
Koorly: 'But it's a corpse'!
ralphpocketwatch: Really? I'd say saving lives is more important than propriety.
Hammer Birchgrove: Lemme say that Rose is right for the wrong reasons
ae: ok... drop me off then
Koorly: R: "Those bodies were living people [...] We should respect them even in death!"
Koorly: D: [paraphrased] put up with it or go home.
Koorly: 'oh I'll put up wiht it then, my morals aren't important enough for me to stand by'.
Koorly: Of course it's the morgue.
Hammer Birchgrove: what did she say?
ralphpocketwatch: No! Don't tempt the gazebo!
Koorly: Why not make it the pantry.
Hammer Birchgrove: Zebra?
Hammer Birchgrove: oh
Koorly: Ha. Title drop. That's what? Five Dickens novels I've heard mentioned now?
ae: boom shake shake the room
Koorly: Thing is, if the Gelth weren't all psychokillers this would be a really good solution.
Hammer Birchgrove: The writers like to kill workers
Koorly: Hello special effect that will be repeated several time later on in the eries!
ralphpocketwatch: And they reveal their true nature through their evil colour scheme!
Koorly: And look at the colour symbolism. Good and blue and light and gentle.
Koorly: Then orange flames and pointy fangs and red eyes.
Koorly: EEEEvil!
Koorly: Hey, why didn't the Gelth even try to possess Dickens?
Koorly: Historical immunity?
Koorly: "We don't want your pity! We twant this world and its flesh!"
Koorly: Cowardly!Dickens is cowardly.
Koorly: Wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff means you don't die before you're born.
ae: from your perspective you are already born
Koorly: Ladies and gentlemen: the proto-wibbly wobbly timey wimey ball of stuff!
ae: gas them...
Hammer Birchgrove: Tom Baker's Doctor wouldn't be this gullible :p
Koorly: D: "I;m gonna die in a dungeon!" *in disbelief adds "In Cardiff." It truly is a fate worse than normal death.
Hammer Birchgrove: awww
Koorly: More handholding! *ships*
Hammer Birchgrove: hand holding
ae: i'm going to leave you behind and run Rose...
Koorly: Love that it's the one-off Companion that solves everything.
Koorly: Because Charles Dickens is smarter than everyone else.
ralphpocketwatch: Same as with Shakespeare.
ralphpocketwatch: Kinda.
ralphpocketwatch: They do have one-off companions save the day a few times actually.
Koorly: Two females sacrifice their lives to save everything in back-to-back episodes.
Koorly: Someone doesn't like women. :p
ae: really do you think someone likes men more?
Koorly: I think I like the orange Gelth design more than the blue.
Koorly: @AE: Nah. Just odd that both times women go up in flames to save everything.
Koorly: And I don't know how to feel about the unexplained ghost.
ralphpocketwatch: Yay! Hamlet quote!
Hammer Birchgrove: servant girl
Koorly: From Horatio to be exact.
ralphpocketwatch: No, it's from Hamlet, *to* Horatio.
ralphpocketwatch: IIRC.
Koorly: Een more exact: I, v, l. 160ish
Koorly: Eh, close enough.
Koorly: Yay!
Koorly: Dickensian in-joke!
Hammer Birchgrove: aww
Hammer Birchgrove: Dickens could have become a SF author
Koorly: So many people have seen the TARDIS vworp away.
ae: no
ae: no they don't
ae: now sod off
Koorly: Dickens: "My books, do they last?"
Koorly: D: "Oh yes, forever."
Koorly: N'aaaaawwwwwww.
Koorly: Just like Agatha Christie's then.
Koorly: *still hasn't gotten around to finished that*
ae: take the hand brake off Dr.
ralphpocketwatch: I like that noise.
ralphpocketwatch: It's a brilliant noise.
Koorly: Look at Dickens getting the Scrooged treatment and being all happy and filled with joie de vivre.
ralphpocketwatch: Blech. Slitheen. Eugh.
Koorly: Preview thoughts: nice effects, shame about the Slitheen.
Koorly: Wish UNIT was in this.
ralphpocketwatch: Harriet Jones!
Koorly: Hello MP for Clydesdale North.
ae: so, next time we'll have ailens of london ww3 & daled
ralphpocketwatch: UNIT are in it, they just end up dead.
Koorly: Spoilers.
Hammer Birchgrove: I thought the Slitheen would be masked Cyber-Men
Hammer Birchgrove: derp
Koorly: Think I'll just post this as is.
Koorly: A three-in-one review.
Hammer Birchgrove: cool
ralphpocketwatch: Once you've done that, could you also stop by the meetup thread?
Koorly: Posting in a few minutes.
Koorly: Yes, yes.
Koorly: Wait, why?
ae: so, thnkss for coming and keep an eye o the FB group for the next
Koorly: Yessir AE sir.
Koorly: Dinner all, bye.
ralphpocketwatch: And say when you're planning on being here?
Best Moment: I'm going to cheat and say the Victoriana in general. Look, I studied this period in depth as far as literature goes, and I got the happies. Oh, and I really enjoyed the Doctor's inhuman (as in, literally, not human) stance on corpses and respect 'due' to them. It doesn't happen as often as it could, this kind of thing. It's a nice reminder though that the Doctor is a TIme Lord.
Runner up would be the Doctor fangirling over Charles Dickens. It's adorkable!
Worst Moment: Of
course, the morgue. And Rose who doesn't know what a zombie is/looks like, and then a few minutes later starts talking about zombies.
Best Actor: Simon Callow
is Charles Dickens! And he's acted with/been in the RSC!
Worst Actor: Gwyneth sounds just a little too Welsh, and just a little too eager. Which okay isn't fair considering the actress
is Welsh, but she's
too everything. TOo eager, too pure, too gentle, too
deus ex machina; she just grated.
Best Special Effect: the Gelth look genuinely otherworldly, even if their colour palette is stereotypical.
Worst Special Effect: the zombie makeup is so
zombie it hurts.
Kink of the Week: Gwyneth/Rose has potential and appeal.
Dickens References: I didn't keep a close count, but about half a dozen that I heard.
Thoughts overall?
Charles Dickens in a Christmas ghost story!
It was awesome.
And I gather from somewhere, that this episode sets up
Torchwood and various things that are important to later seasons of
Doctor Who. It was a fun episode, and quite dark in some ways, but still had a good Christmassy vibe - disillusioned man inspired by otherworldly events to take an interest in life again?
More Christmassy than expected isn't it?
Didn't like Rose though, the only reason she's not in
Worst Actor is because she's so average, and I feel like I should at least make a pale attempt at being objective for these round up bits. Sometimes.