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Dreamscarred Press Presents: Akashic Mysteries, Thread 2
The Akashic Mysteries playtest is now officially closed! Our final version is available to subscribers on DriveThruRPG, Paizo, and directly through DSP's website. We're currently looking for any feedback on layout glitches, spelling or grammar errors, or similar issues in the .pdf release before we go to print. Thank you to everyone who participated in this long-running playtest!
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I also wanted to note this separately from the OP; I'm leaving for my wedding and honeymoon and will be out through pretty much the rest of April. Please still feel free to leave comments, playtest feedback, etc. in my absence and I'll answer when I return. Psybomb is one of my premier playtesters and the author of several guides for the released classes, so he may be able to answer basic rules questions. Stack is a contributor, most notably of the Swarm Master archetype, so any updates or insight he gives on that or relate subjects should be respected as direct designer feedback. Lord_Gareth will be the Dreamscarred Press representative in my absence and can handle anything related to the project that needs to be directly addressed by someone from DSP and can't wait until my return.
Thanks everyone!
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For some reason it said February instead of April when I originally said when I'd be gone, then it tried to turn my corrected April back to February. Computers are weird.
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Re: Dreamscarred Press Presents: Akashic Mysteries, Thread 2
Posting early to add this note: Anyone who needs a basic run-down of any of the classes can find the link to my guides down in my signature. All of them are within the context of their own class, however, and several of the Veils have much greater (or deeply diminished) value outside of them (for example, when taken by the Shape Veil feat on a non-Veilweaving class). Any questions or requests for advice, I will answer ASAP. I look at this thread daily at least, so if a question isn't answered immediately by someone you can rest assured I'll get around to it soon.
Much of what I say is going to be backed by RAI straight from Ssalarn, for every comment you see here I've probably asked him three questions to that effect.
Finally, I welcome any constructive comments and criticisms, whether here of in my guides. More voices can only improve the final product, and I want anyone picking up a Veilweaver for the first time to be one read away from rocking out with the best of them.
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I am here! Let us populate this thread with questions and feedback.
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So the fluff describes veilweaving as old "arcane magic" and I'm wondering if I can allow it in my Third Dawn game. Any insight?
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Re: Dreamscarred Press Presents: Akashic Mysteries, Thread 2
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PsyBomb
Posting early to add this note: Anyone who needs a basic run-down of any of the classes can find the link to my guides down in my signature. All of them are within the context of their own class, however, and several of the Veils have much greater (or deeply diminished) value outside of them (for example, when taken by the Shape Veil feat on a non-Veilweaving class). Any questions or requests for advice, I will answer ASAP. I look at this thread daily at least, so if a question isn't answered immediately by someone you can rest assured I'll get around to it soon.
Much of what I say is going to be backed by RAI straight from Ssalarn, for every comment you see here I've probably asked him three questions to that effect.
Finally, I welcome any constructive comments and criticisms, whether here of in my guides. More voices can only improve the final product, and I want anyone picking up a Veilweaver for the first time to be one read away from rocking out with the best of them.
On that note, the recent FAQ about size increases broke my old damage builds. I'm feeling a natural attack build coming up.
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Metool
So the fluff describes veilweaving as old "arcane magic" and I'm wondering if I can allow it in my Third Dawn game. Any insight?
I also have this question. Third Dawn looks very interesting to me.
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Metool
So the fluff describes veilweaving as old "arcane magic" and I'm wondering if I can allow it in my Third Dawn game. Any insight?
Third Dawn is the psionics only setting, correct? It would simply be a matter of fluff, if you want to use it. Psionics, magic, akasha, they are largely mechanical terms, in the game world a commoner wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I don't see any barrier to refluffing Akashic energy as being channeled from within, fluffing it as psionic in nature.
I've given some thought to psionic veils and think they will work well, while we are on the subject. Augments similar to the Sleeping Goddess discipline or the zealot's class features seem to integrate well.
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stack
Third Dawn is the psionics only setting, correct? It would simply be a matter of fluff, if you want to use it. Psionics, magic, akasha, they are largely mechanical terms, in the game world a commoner wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I don't see any barrier to refluffing Akashic energy as being channeled from within, fluffing it as psionic in nature.
Unfortunately, the group I'm running it for isn't so hot on refluffing. I'd love to encourage them to use akashic material, but I feel it might leave a bad taste in their mouths.
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In Third Dawn, akashic power is psionic in nature and inspired by the Flowshaper of Ksaren. Rename Essence to Flow, and the overall ability is known as Flowshaping. It is not otherwise changed.
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Binding Essence: Some feats and veils will require you to bind, rather than invest, essence into them. When essence is bound into a receptacle, it cannot be recovered or reassigned to another receptacle until 24 hours have passed, or the next time the user shapes their veils for the day, whichever comes first. If the receptacle is sundered or disjoined, the user immediately takes essence burn equal to the total essence invested in the veil. Once the burn has recovered, they can reinvest the essence normally
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Treewalker [Akashic]You can run up trees and other living vertical surfaces as though they were solid ground.
Prerequisites: Con 15 or veilweaver level 1, ability to bind veils to your Feet slot.
Benefit: You gain the ability to bind your essence to trees, plants, and other non-sentient living things, allowing you to move up and down the surfaces of these as though you had a climb speed equal to your base land speed.You gain 1 point of essence.
This seems to say that once you use this feat, you cannot regain the essence until24 hours later.
Perhaps it needs to say invest instead of bind?
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Also, I would LOVE a feat that granted like maybe a 1/day use of the Viziers veilshifting just so I have an option sometimes when something unexpected is encountered by the Guru or Daevic.
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Re: Dreamscarred Press Presents: Akashic Mysteries, Thread 2
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Lord_Gareth
In Third Dawn, akashic power is psionic in nature and inspired by the Flowshaper of Ksaren. Rename Essence to Flow, and the overall ability is known as Flowshaping. It is not otherwise changed.
Sweet. Very good to know.
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Deadkitten
This seems to say that once you use this feat, you cannot regain the essence until24 hours later.
Perhaps it needs to say invest instead of bind?
Both bind and invest are actually bad terms here; "briefly fuse" or something to that effect would be better since Treewalker doesn't require any invested essence at all for its function.
Also, Gareth explained Akasha's relation to Third Dawn perfectly.
Anyways, Florida's great, Universal Studios is a blast, and my fiancee' just finished spending an inordinate amount of money on perfume, so I've gotta dip.
Later guys!
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Get out of here, go have fun with real people! We'll try not to burn anything down while you are away.
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stack
Get out of here, go have fun with real people! We'll try not to burn anything down while you are away.
I make no such promises personally. :smalltongue:
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Salutations. So, I am likely to be throwing together a Swarm Master for a game (sadly, the game won't be going on much longer, likely only one more session, but wanted to try Akashic stuff at least once before we switch to testing a friend's homebrew system/setting). Anyways, was wondering if there was a plan to change the Swarm Master in the document any time soon? I know there was a lot of talk about it some time ago, but most of it seems to have not been added to the document yet. As shown there, they still have powerpoints with little to do with them, no native way to increase the essence capacity of pestilence cloak, and a fairly squishy swarm at 10hp per essence. If there aren't any plans to update the document (particularly over the weekend), are there any changes that would be suggested that are likely to be made? I understand that Ssalarn is off on vacation, so no pressure. :]
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I sent some revisions in awhile back, but I think the document update was pending some other stuff, like Ssalarn having time. When I am not on my phone I will try to remember to send over my proposed changes, if you like.
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stack
I sent some revisions in awhile back, but I think the document update was pending some other stuff, like Ssalarn having time. When I am not on my phone I will try to remember to send over my proposed changes, if you like.
That would be helpful, thanks. :]
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Question about Crusader's Shield. If a Vizier grabs it through shape veil, and he shares it through path of the seer, do the allies affected use their meldshaper level or the Vizier's to determine the shield's hardness and HP? It seems to imply it should given you use the Vizier's saves on shared veils, but it doesn't seem to be explicitly mentioned.
Also, I think I know the answer to this already, but it's worth asking regardless. If you take shape veil to get a veil from the list of a different veilweaving class, it just gets added to the known veil list for that class correct? It doesn't give you anything further beyond that. (As in if you can normally have 4 veils active, taking shape veil doesn't let you have 4 active veils + the veil from shape veil.)
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How good of a healer can a low to mid-level guru be?
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Milo v3
How good of a healer can a low to mid-level guru be?
Mediocre, I guess? They don't actually have too terribly much in the way of direct healing, just access to the Martyr's Toga and Immaculate Touch veils. You can clear some debuffs depending on your Philosophy as well. If you want to heal using Akasha, though, Guru makes a good dip for a Cleric in order to enable a couple of channeling feats.
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PsyBomb
Mediocre, I guess? They don't actually have too terribly much in the way of direct healing, just access to the Martyr's Toga and Immaculate Touch veils. You can clear some debuffs depending on your Philosophy as well. If you want to heal using Akasha, though, Guru makes a good dip for a Cleric in order to enable a couple of channeling feats.
Hmm... abit disappointing but understandable. I was going akasin for philosophy, since it gets removing blindness/deafness and raise dead. I'm not really interested in any of the akashic channeling feats, since none of them have anything to do with improving healing.
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soulsabre345
Question about Crusader's Shield. If a Vizier grabs it through shape veil, and he shares it through path of the seer, do the allies affected use their meldshaper level or the Vizier's to determine the shield's hardness and HP? It seems to imply it should given you use the Vizier's saves on shared veils, but it doesn't seem to be explicitly mentioned.
Also, I think I know the answer to this already, but it's worth asking regardless. If you take shape veil to get a veil from the list of a different veilweaving class, it just gets added to the known veil list for that class correct? It doesn't give you anything further beyond that. (As in if you can normally have 4 veils active, taking shape veil doesn't let you have 4 active veils + the veil from shape veil.)
Allies of Vizier sharing Crusader's Shield would use the Vizier's veilweaving level to determine hardness and hp.
Yes, Shape Veil for someone who's already a veilweaver just adds the veil to their list.
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I've decided I'm going to try a veilweaver for paybombs new game. Probably guru. Also, subbing to the thread.
Also, have fun Ssalarn. Best of luck to you and to your fiancee.
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Psybomb has a new game? Why was I not informed?
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stack
Psybomb has a new game? Why was I not informed?
Spawned out of GitP as Gods. I think he's still taking for now.
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Keledrath
Spawned out of GitP as Gods. I think he's still taking for now.
Indeed I am, right now at 2.5 apps in.
But back to the topic, shall we?
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Is there any chance of their being a feat that will let you add in additional weapons to a philosophy? It seems like they're flavourful but abit restrictive, especially with only one having unarmed.
Edit: What's the range for the Akasin's luminosity ray?
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Milo v3
Is there any chance of their being a feat that will let you add in additional weapons to a philosophy? It seems like they're flavourful but abit restrictive, especially with only one having unarmed.
Edit: What's the range for the Akasin's luminosity ray?
Philosophy weapons and additions to them were discussed around here. I do not believe we have seen the final result of the discussion though.
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I'm back(ish)! Back in the states anyways. A feat allowing Gurus to treat additional weapons as philosophy weapons will be in the compiled Supplemental release. It's called Martial Union, requires you to have Weapon Focus in the weapon you want to focus your Philosophy through, and adds 1/2 the Essence invested in your Gentle Touch as an untyped bonus to your to-hit with Philosophy weapons.
Looks like we missed including the range for the ray option of Luminosity; it should be 60 feet. I'll see that that gets addressed when we run the compilation updates.
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Welcome back(ish)! Glad to have you back(ish).
Sounds like a pretty good feat. I probably wouldn't build a Guru without it, considering how much I like smacking dudes around.
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WHEEE EMPTY PYRAMID HYPE
Okay! So. Main thing I'd like to bring up is the slightly odd way Font of Vitality functions, in that it only ends when the DISCIPLE goes above half HP. Which results in the slightly bizarre situation where a Pharaoh has it within his interests to repeatedly stab himself so he can keep healing the party.
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That feat makes my Guru sense tingle, looking at about a +4 untyped attack bonus for people who are serious about that kind of thing. I like it, though, helps compensate for mid-BAB and the ability to get different weapons in the Philosophies is a great thing.
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I like it as well, though requiring weapon focus is a bit annoying. I don't think the feat is so overpowering that it needs a weak pre-req.
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stack
I like it as well, though requiring weapon focus is a bit annoying. I don't think the feat is so overpowering that it needs a weak pre-req.
If it didn't require weapon focus, it would be an auto-pick for all Gurus who wanted to do any combat, period, starting from level 3. I'm not a fan of it, but I can see where it's coming from.
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If it didn't require weapon focus, it would be an auto-pick for all Gurus who wanted to do any combat, period, starting from level 3. I'm not a fan of it, but I can see where it's coming from.
Are we certain that's not a problem with Guru and not the feat concept?
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Lord_Gareth
Are we certain that's not a problem with Guru and not the feat concept?
I'm pretty certain of it. The feat is worth the +1 on any Philosophy weapon from level 3 on, and and ends with +3 (or 4 if you, like many combat-oriented Gurus should, take Expanded Capacity on your Gentle Touch). This beats a flat +1 by a mile and a half, before counting the ability to tack exotic weapons onto your main fighting style. Put it this way, I voluntarily give up 4 AC on blitz builds for a +2 (Reckless Assault). It would be a lot like if Weapon Group Adaptation also gave you a +1/5 IL to attack with discipline weapons, people would take it regardless of if they needed to actually adapt a weapon group.
The feat tax isn't ideal, but something to that effect is needed on this feat concept.
EDIT: The flip side of this is that it turns true Exotic additions into a 3-feat sink (Proficiency, Focus, then Adaptation) to add. Tough position.
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Lord_Gareth
Are we certain that's not a problem with Guru and not the feat concept?
It's not a "have to have to function" thing, it's a "so good you'd always take it at that price" thing. The Weapon Focus tax at least has some benefit, and gates the ability to the appropriate access point. It's also at that right cost where it's worth getting if you want to go combat brute, but not so good that every single build is going to take it.
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If there were a melee combat focused Guru archetype later on, I could see that feat being part of it, but I don't feel that it should have been a core Guru class feature.
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I would say that it sounds comparable to Grasp of Darkness for Harbingers or Elements as One for a mixed element Mystic. Namely, you CAN work without this, but why would you, when having it is so much better?
Or, for another comparison, Natural Spell for 3.5 druids. The most obvious example of "Are you good without this? Yes. Are you nigh infinitely better with this? Obviously."
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Keledrath
I would say that it sounds comparable to Grasp of Darkness for Harbingers or Elements as One for a mixed element Mystic. Namely, you CAN work without this, but why would you, when having it is so much better?
Or, for another comparison, Natural Spell for 3.5 druids. The most obvious example of "Are you good without this? Yes. Are you nigh infinitely better with this? Obviously."
Not QUITE at "class feature that replaces a feat" level, but a natural choice. It'll be high-priority for people wanting to use racial proficiencies (an Elf Vayist, for example) and for anyone aiming for heavy me lee regardless.
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Figured I'd post this here, solely in my capacity as a playtester and not as a member of Dreamscarred Press, as an idea:
What about a feat (or veil) that lets mind-affecting veils hit creatures normally immune to mind-affecting? Such creatures retain a bonus vs. the effects (investing essence reduces this bonus?) and mindless creatures remain immune.
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Lord_Gareth
Figured I'd post this here, solely in my capacity as a playtester and not as a member of Dreamscarred Press, as an idea:
What about a feat (or veil) that lets mind-affecting veils hit creatures normally immune to mind-affecting? Such creatures retain a bonus vs. the effects (investing essence reduces this bonus?) and mindless creatures remain immune.
There is a certain joy experienced when you cause fear in the undead. I think it could make a cool veil. The chakra bind could allow you to affect mindless creatures too, after a certain level of investment.
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Somewhat OT, but it's only been up here, Ssalarn, when we gonna see Psitech / Shadewalker playtests? I have plans that involve playtesting and putting my players through hell. :smallamused:
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Somewhat OT, but it's only been up here, Ssalarn, when we gonna see Psitech / Shadewalker playtests? I have plans that involve playtesting and putting my players through hell. :smallamused:
I could have Shadewalker up this week if Andreas gives me the green light. I need about a dedicated week where I'm not working on anything other than Psitech to get it ready though; so that could be a little longer.
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Since we are talking about a possible feat for the guru I will re-post to see if there is any opinion on it....
So would it be terribly broken on unbalanced for there to be a feat or something that allowed a veil-weaving class such as the Guru or Daevic to have a 1/day or so use of the Vizier's Veil-shifting?
My main worry is a class such as the Daevic,which gets so few veils per day while having to shape specific ones as well, could really benefit from such a feat if they were thrown into a situation in which they were not fully prepared for.
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Deadkitten
Since we are talking about a possible feat for the guru I will re-post to see if there is any opinion on it....
So would it be terribly broken on unbalanced for there to be a feat or something that allowed a veil-weaving class such as the Guru or Daevic to have a 1/day or so use of the Vizier's Veil-shifting?
My main worry is a class such as the Daevic,which gets so few veils per day while having to shape specific ones as well, could really benefit from such a feat if they were thrown into a situation in which they were not fully prepared for.
I've been looking into it. My biggest concern is that even once a day, that can make a huge impact in combat, so I've been doing some scenario testing and seeing what the best way to maybe do something like that would be. I don't want it to be so prereq intensive that no one takes it, but I also don't want it being on the "every veilweaver who's not a Vizier will always take this" list.
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I have a couple questions about the Crusader's Shield veil. First though, I do love the veil and the options it enables, but it doesn't say what happens when the shield breaks from damage, and if you use it in a space too small for it. So, my questions are;
1. If the shield is destroyed, does the extra damage from that attack go anywhere? (shield has 20 hp, gets hit for 40, does the extra 20 damage hit the user?)
2. If the shield is blocking off a passage, but is destroyed by a burst effect, does the attack proceed past the user or is it halted by the shield? What about a spread effect?
3. If using the shield in a area too small for it (5' high and wide passageway, and you use the basic version which covers a 10' square), does it just fill the area as much as it can, or does it need to be created in a area large enough for it?
4. If there are two veilweavers using the shield, what happens if the shields intersect? (such as two veilweavers side by side and placing it at a 45 degree angle to their sides, making it cross in a x in front and between them)
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Ssalarn
I've been looking into it. My biggest concern is that even once a day, that can make a huge impact in combat, so I've been doing some scenario testing and seeing what the best way to maybe do something like that would be. I don't want it to be so prereq intensive that no one takes it, but I also don't want it being on the "every veilweaver who's not a Vizier will always take this" list.
Mayhaps have the feat take like 1-10 minutes to reshape a veil?
Kinda like the Binder feat from tome of magic.
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Re: Dreamscarred Press Presents: Akashic Mysteries, Thread 2
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Lord_Gareth
Figured I'd post this here, solely in my capacity as a playtester and not as a member of Dreamscarred Press, as an idea:
What about a feat (or veil) that lets mind-affecting veils hit creatures normally immune to mind-affecting? Such creatures retain a bonus vs. the effects (investing essence reduces this bonus?) and mindless creatures remain immune.
I'd love to see that effect on a Veil or Feat. There are a few of them that could really use the help, notably all the Pattern and Fear-Based ones (opens up a ton of BFC options for everyone, especially Swarm Master Dreads).
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Deadkitten
Mayhaps have the feat take like 1-10 minutes to reshape a veil?
Kinda like the Binder feat from tome of magic.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. If it took a minute of concentration, it would be unusable in combat but enough to be able to shift a needed resource otherwise.
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Deadkitten
Mayhaps have the feat take like 1-10 minutes to reshape a veil?
Kinda like the Binder feat from tome of magic.
I could see that working. Make it more of an out of combat thing, but still useful if you, say, shape Circlet of Brass for what you think is an adventure into the icy peaks but turns out to be a delve into the heart of an active volcano full of salamanders and their red dragon overlord.
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Ssalarn
I could see that working. Make it more of an out of combat thing, but still useful if you, say, shape Circlet of Brass for what you think is an adventure into the icy peaks but turns out to be a delve into the heart of an active volcano full of salamanders and their red dragon overlord.
another option would be that if you were fine with it possibly being able to be used in combat, that using the feat would do some constitution damage or something similar.
kinda like trying to reshape a veil that way damages your life energy or something like that.
you could maybe do some unhealable essence burn too.
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From the Cincture of the Dragon:
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Chakra Bind (Belt): [D16] Binding this potent defensive veil to your Belt chakra causes the scales to grow in size and whirl around you, intercepting even some magical attacks. As a standard action you can activate a stunning barrier ACG effect as an at-will spell-like ability. This effect lasts for a number of rounds equal to your primary veilweaving modifier plus the number of points of essence invested in this ability.
Was this maybe supposed to be the greater version of this spell?
I was wondering because the belt bind does not come online until 13th level.
Here are the two spells for quick reference just cause I feel like it. :smallbiggrin:
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Stunning Barrier
Source Advanced Class Guide pg. 194 (Amazon)
School abjuration; Level arcanist 1, cleric/oracle 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, warpriest 1
Casting
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S
Effect
Range personal
Target you
Duration 1 round/level or until discharged
Saving Throw none and Will negates (see text); Spell Resistance no and yes (see text)
Description
You are closely surrounded by a barely visible magical field. The field provides a +1 deflection bonus to AC and a +1 resistance bonus on saves. Any creature that strikes you with a melee attack is stunned for 1 round (Will negates). Once the field has stunned an opponent, the spell is discharged.
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Stunning Barrier, Greater
Source Advanced Class Guide pg. 195 (Amazon)
School abjuration; Level arcanist 3, cleric/oracle 3, inquisitor 3, paladin 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, warpriest 3
Casting
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S
Effect
Range personal
Target you
Duration 1 round/level or until discharged
Saving Throw none and Will negates (see text); Spell Resistance no and yes (see text)
Description
This spell functions as stunning barrier, except as noted above, and it provides a +2 bonus to AC and on saving throws. It is not discharged until it has stunned a number of creatures equal to your caster level.
Honestly, no matter what you do the duration is going to be less than the original spells.
Getting the 1st level version of Stunning barrier at 13th level seems kinda weak considering you have to spend a standard action to maybe negate a single attack. You could make it a swift action and it would be tolerable and probably balanced since it keeps you from shifting essence that turn.
Or if you meant it to be the 3rd level version that would be neat as well, but it should stay a standard for obvious reasons. :smallbiggrin:
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Re: Dreamscarred Press Presents: Akashic Mysteries, Thread 2
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I could see that working. Make it more of an out of combat thing, but still useful if you, say, shape Circlet of Brass for what you think is an adventure into the icy peaks but turns out to be a delve into the heart of an active volcano full of salamanders and their red dragon overlord.
Yeah. This is way closer to what happened to my Vizier in last week's game than I'm comfortable with. I had Circlet of Brass shaped. We were chasing BBEG through his lair but had to cross the pit of lava. And I was all out of veil shifting.
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Re: Dreamscarred Press Presents: Akashic Mysteries, Thread 2
Anyone else looking at Pathfinder Unchained and looking at applications among these classes? Wrath (Justice) gets a big boost from Stamina system if it's allowed, rerolling bad dice on Vital Strike can be clutch.
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Re: Dreamscarred Press Presents: Akashic Mysteries, Thread 2
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PsyBomb
Anyone else looking at Pathfinder Unchained and looking at applications among these classes? Wrath (Justice) gets a big boost from Stamina system if it's allowed, rerolling bad dice on Vital Strike can be clutch.
Whoo, yeah, that could be a big freaking deal.
I'm trying to figure out how some of the new skill mastery stuff fits in.
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Re: Dreamscarred Press Presents: Akashic Mysteries, Thread 2
Skill mastery, nothing really jumped out at me. Even with the bonuses the Veils give, you still have to unlock it in the first place and the effects aren't really game-breaking.
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Re: Dreamscarred Press Presents: Akashic Mysteries, Thread 2
Sorry for asking for the clarification here - but are creatures granted through Veils valid targets for Share Veil?
Also, is it intended that you can set up a chain of undead commanded with Dark Lord's Ring of Essence Binding with the Plague Zombie or Cairn Wight?
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Re: Dreamscarred Press Presents: Akashic Mysteries, Thread 2
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Sorry for asking for the clarification here - but are creatures granted through Veils valid targets for Share Veil?
Yes.
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Taveena
Also, is it intended that you can set up a chain of undead commanded with Dark Lord's Ring of Essence Binding with the Plague Zombie or Cairn Wight?
No. There will be an update to the core doc reflecting a change that was actually announced some time ago but for some reason got lost in layout:
Wights created by the veil cannot create spawn. Also of note, you wouldn't have any control over plague zombies created by the disease.