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Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
This is a thread for posting all the little details in OoTs comics that you never saw on your first (or second, or third) read through.
It doesn't matter if someone else has spotted it and mentioned it in this thread, just as long as you haven't, here is the place to post all those cool little things!
The old thread. (thanks Gift Jeraff!)
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Re: Things you never noticed II
I saw this comic many times and always thought in the last panel that they are going uphill. I recently realised that they aren't. They are going along flat ground but the whole panel is tilted.
See the background with a line of mountains in the distance. In all the other panels it runs roughly horizontally. But in the last panel alone it gets higher from left to right, at the same angle as the ground. If they were going uphill, the mountains would still go horizontally.
Compare to the first panel here, where they ARE going uphill, and the sand dunes in the background are roughly horizontal.
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Re: Things you never noticed II
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Originally Posted by
Ron Miel
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Wow... I'd never have caught that. Which leads to another question, why is the panel tilted?
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I just noticed that in comic #13 that Roy's sword goes "snicker snack!" while beheading Xykon, which would be what the vorpal sword does in "Through the Looking Glass" (2nd book to Alice in Wonderland and also referenced in the Tim Burton adaptation).
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Re: Things you never noticed II
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Originally Posted by
MoonCat
Wow... I'd never have caught that. Which leads to another question, why is the panel tilted?
presumably to fit more into the available space.
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Originally Posted by
Ron Miel
I saw
this comic many times and always thought in the last panel that they are going uphill. I recently realised that they aren't. They are going along flat ground but the whole panel is tilted.
See the background with a line of mountains in the distance. In all the other panels it runs roughly horizontally. But in the last panel alone it gets higher from left to right, at the same angle as the ground. If they were going uphill, the mountains would still go horizontally.
She's going uphill and those aren't mountains. They're just different colours of the cave wall. Look at #524.
EDIT: Also, I suggest linking the original thread in the OP, in case anyone wants to read what other people never noticed. :smallsmile:
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I only recently noticed the Definitely NOT a Bandit Camp sign.
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Originally Posted by
Gift Jeraff
She's going uphill and those aren't mountains. They're just different colours of the cave wall. Look at
#524.
I think she's not going uphill. Look at the stance of the NPC woman - if they were going uphill, she'd fall over.
The reason for the tilting is because it's expressing Haley's viewpoint. She's towing a heavy load, made even heavier by Belkar's gratuitous selfishness, and she's feeling put-upon.
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Re: Things you never noticed II
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Originally Posted by
Gift Jeraff
EDIT: Also, I suggest linking the original thread in the OP, in case anyone wants to read what other people never noticed. :smallsmile:
Good idea.
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Originally Posted by
veti
I think she's not going uphill. Look at the stance of the NPC woman - if they were going uphill, she'd fall over.
I don't think so. By that logic, the entire Order should have fallen over in the strip Ron Miel linked.
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I like this reference to Al Roker: 576
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Originally Posted by
veti
I think she's not going uphill. Look at the stance of the NPC woman - if they were going uphill, she'd fall over.
That is just the art. Look here again. They are all tilted.
The cave is definitely going uphill.
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Re: Things you never noticed II
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Originally Posted by
Gift Jeraff
She's going uphill and those aren't mountains. They're just different colours of the cave wall. Look at
#524.
Okay, it makes sense that they are colours on the cave wall, I'll grant you that point. Even so, there's no reason why the colours would run uphill. They would still run horizontally in the background even when the ground slopes.
In #524 there are people on 2 levels of the cave, there's probably a slope to get from the lower to the higher. The bands of colour in the cave would still run horizontally behind the slope, right?
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Re: Things you never noticed II
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Originally Posted by
MoonCat
This is a thread for posting all the little details in OoTs comics that you never saw on your first (or second, or third) read through.
Aww come on, everybody knows that the second thread after a lengthy one needs a subtitle.
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Re: Things you never noticed II
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Originally Posted by
Kurald Galain
Aww come on, everybody knows that the second thread after a lengthy one needs a subtitle.
Any suggestions then?
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How about "I never noticed there was a first thread"
And, to comment on the cave wall colour argument, it would make sense for the colours to run uphill if they were the result of tunneling rather than a natural formation
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Originally Posted by
Lvl45DM!
How about "I never noticed there was a first thread"
And, to comment on the cave wall colour argument, it would make sense for the colours to run uphill if they were the result of tunneling rather than a natural formation
Done. Good idea.
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
Likely due to English not being my first language, I just realized that the final panel of this strip included a double-entendre with the word "hexes". Now I understand why the green hag is calling them good sport about this.
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
St Fan
Likely due to English not being my first language, I just realized that the final panel of
this strip included a double-entendre with the word "hexes". Now I understand why the green hag is calling them good sport about this.
Why is the green hag calling them a good sport about it?
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
St Fan
Likely due to English not being my first language, I just realized that the final panel of
this strip included a double-entendre with the word "hexes". Now I understand why the green hag is calling them good sport about this.
Not sure I understand the double-entendre. I guess someone could think it is a pun for "hooray for sexes," but the strip itself doesn't indicate that we should see a pun there, and the long hex discussion between Roy and V doesn't fit that sort of a pun (unlike the running "Hinjo's Junk" strip). It is more likely that the joke is just about hexes, and nothing more.
Unless "hex" means something else that I'm not aware of...
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
ThePhantasm
Unless "hex" means something else that I'm not aware of...
"Hex" can also mean "curse" or "jinx", like the attacks the hag is about to use on them. She's glad to see they're such a good sport about being killed.
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
whitehelm
"Hex" can also mean "curse" or "jinx", like the attacks the hag is about to use on them. She's glad to see they're such a good sport about being killed.
Ooh, that is a good one.
I never noticed that here the Go board is little scratches on the floor.
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
Gift Jeraff
She's going uphill and those aren't mountains. They're just different colours of the cave wall. Look at
#524.
I agree with Jeraff.
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
whitehelm
"Hex" can also mean "curse" or "jinx", like the attacks the hag is about to use on them. She's glad to see they're such a good sport about being killed.
Ah, right (self facepalm). Whenever someone says "double entendre" I think they mean a risque double-meaning. That's what tripped me up.
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Just noticed this on a read-through from where DStP ended:
#680 Panel 6 links up with #725 Panel 4
I thought it was quite cool how it matches up.
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Wow, you're right! Go Giant...!
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Here, Roy is rolling up a character using the harshest version of the rules, where you can't even rearrange your rolls after making them.
Yet he still manages to get an Illusionist, one of the toughest classes to qualify for in 1e. If I recall correctly, you needed something like 13 INT and 17 DEX, and no other stats below 6.
Now I've realised - he's in Heaven, or at least the waiting room of Heaven - of course he'll get whatever stats he wants, regardless of how many dice he rolls...
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
MoonCat
Ooh, that
is a good one.
I never noticed that
here the Go board is little scratches on the floor.
Cool find
I guess I did notice this before, but until the recent strip I never realized that Nale could kiss Sabine without losing levels, see here
Also her tail wraps around his leg...i think
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
Lvl45DM!
see
here
Also her tail wraps around his leg...i think
Ooh, nice catch on the tail.
From that same strip, I just noticed Nale's last bubble in panel 4. Haaaa. Remember how it ultimately turned out?
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
Anyone have gotten allusions to a certain over-sized female anatomy when they read this website's name?
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Originally Posted by
M.A.D
Anyone have gotten allusions to a certain over-sized female anatomy when they read this website's name?
Yup. Got some weird looks from the person looking over my shoulder too.
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I just noticed that in the last panel here, Elan trips over a treasure chest while looking for the gate.
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Originally Posted by
M.A.D
Anyone have gotten allusions to a certain over-sized female anatomy when they read this website's name?
Ah! I'm not the only one! :smallbiggrin:
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In SoD page 84 (which happened 3 years before from the biginning of OotS) there is a little girl who just look like Haley's childhood. Re-used character? :smallwink:
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
martianmister
In SoD page 84 (which happened 3 years before from the biginning of OotS) there is a little girl who just look like Haley's childhood. Re-used character? :smallwink:
Very similar, except her pigtails are a totally different shape.
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In response to some of the naysayers, comic #464. THAT is definitely her spine.
And you know how you can tell? It's still attached to her torso.
Crack in the ground my ass.
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
MoonCat
Very similar, except her pigtails are a totally different shape.
It's a bad hair day...
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
martianmister
It's a bad hair day...
Why make a complicated explanation like re-used character of Young Haley during a bad hair day' instead of 'character. Slightly similar hair.'
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
LudiDrizzt
In response to some of the naysayers, comic #464. THAT is definitely her spine.
And you know how you can tell? It's still attached to her torso.
Crack in the ground my ass.
Nope, that's a crack. It just so happens her torso happens to be on it... but you can also see that is where the piece of gate is embedded into the ground.
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If it were the spine there'd be more blood
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
LudiDrizzt
In response to some of the naysayers, comic #464. THAT is definitely her spine.
And you know how you can tell? It's still attached to her torso.
Crack in the ground my ass.
That's just silly. It's twice as long as her upper body, and we know from panel 1 that she still has the spine connected to her brain as far down as the arms. Besides, we know from seeing Roy's and Xykon's skeletons, among other examples, that bones in OotS are white.
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Originally Posted by
whitehelm
"Hex" can also mean "curse" or "jinx", like the attacks the hag is about to use on them. She's glad to see they're such a good sport about being killed.
And in German it means 'witch'...which is nice...
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
I just noticed that male Greenhilt's have a family history of premature hair-loss/balding.
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Not really, if I recall, his grandfather had a full head of hair.
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Nope in http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0601.html his form seems to be middle aged and he has almost no hair.
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
calam
He did have a full beard though.
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
I believe, though I'm no expert, that the genes for male pattern baldness are passed through the female line. In other words: you don't inherit it from your father, but from your mother's father.
As for Roy, he's not bald - he's shaven-headed, which is an option for tough-guy stereotypes.
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Originally Posted by
veti
I believe, though I'm no expert, that the genes for male pattern baldness are passed through the female line. In other words: you don't inherit it from your father, but from your mother's father.
As for Roy, he's not bald - he's shaven-headed, which is an option for tough-guy stereotypes.
And also an option for making your balding seem less ugly and piece-by-piece.
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
LudiDrizzt
In response to some of the naysayers, comic #464. THAT is definitely her spine.
And you know how you can tell? It's still attached to her torso.
Crack in the ground my ass.
Sir, that is most definitely a crack. - It's too long
- It's not white
- Placement =/= proof
- It's clearly from the piece of the throne embedded into the ground
Please refrain from being so smug sure of yourself in the future, thank you.
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Originally Posted by
veti
I think she's not going uphill. Look at the stance of the NPC woman - if they were going uphill, she'd fall over.
The reason for the tilting is because it's expressing Haley's viewpoint. She's towing a heavy load, made even heavier by Belkar's gratuitous selfishness, and she's feeling put-upon.
No, not only has Rich never done anything like that (and it's a bit of a stretch to figure anyways). The colors are going uphill because they are underground in a mine. Not only are characters drawn that way when going up hill (any other way would be rather awkward) but Haley is not in a great position to properly pull the cart.
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Originally Posted by
MoonCat
He did have a full beard though.
Male pattern baldness doesn't affect the hair on the chin, only on the crown of the head.
In any case, as pointed out, both Eugene and his father are follically challenged, so it's a moot point which of them Roy inherited that feature from.
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I'm glad that my comment has triggered some debate. Aside from the fact that in comic we've seen both Eugene and Horace with not very much hair, at an age where they still have brown beards; most of my realisation came from bonus material:
In OtOoPC Pg30:Spoiler
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Eugene says to a 21-year-old Roy: "So, I see you shaved your head. Figured you'd beat genetics to the punch, eh?" The implication that Roy could be approaching baldness at 21, together with the use of the word genetics could show that premature baldness runs genetically in the family. (I'll be honest I didn't make the link theis early on, but it was certainly something that backed up my argument when I did make the discovery)
In SoD Pg20:Spoiler
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We see a young Eugene showing signs of hair loss in Panel 4 (compared to Panel 2) and has lost all his hair within a few years after that. I'm only guessing that it's a few years, but at the very most he must be forty-one (using info from page 41 of OtOoPC, and the fact that
Xykon killed Fyron 40 years ago) which seems a bit early to be completely bald.
But what finally brought all this to my attention was something Roy says in the preface to DStP:Spoiler
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"What about hair? I shave my head, but will the resurrection spell know that? Will it give me a full (well, full-ish) head of hair by default?" In other words at the age of twenty eight, Roy knows that his hair will not grow back over his whole head, regardless of whether he shaves it or not.
Sorry this post is so spoilery, but it's better to be safe than have someone complain about it. Just so you know, if you haven't read the books, none of these are major spoilers.
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Re: Things you never noticed II: I never noticed the first thread
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Originally Posted by
Caractacus
And in German it means 'witch'...which is nice...
Actually, the German word is 'Hexe' (or 'Hexer' for males), but the etymologies are probably related.
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Originally Posted by
FireDrake
Just noticed this on a read-through from where DStP ended:
#680 Panel 6 links up with
#725 Panel 4
I thought it was quite cool how it matches up.
725 also matches with 50 - although someone's given the army new helmets and Tarquin appears to have lost some weight on the journey to the Western Continent.
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Originally Posted by
factotum
Male pattern baldness doesn't affect the hair on the chin, only on the crown of the head.
That was a joke, you can tell by the biggrin right above it.
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Originally Posted by
LudiDrizzt
In response to some of the naysayers, comic #464. THAT is definitely her spine.
And you know how you can tell? It's still attached to her torso.
Crack in the ground my ass.
If that was her spine, then her spine would be sticking out of her head by a foot.
Milo was bisected by a piece of the throne. how would a length of spine longer than her torso and head have survived intact?
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Originally Posted by
Thattaman
725 also matches with
50 - although someone's given the army new helmets and Tarquin appears to have lost some weight on the journey to the Western Continent.
It's called Art Evolution. You're not supposed to notice.
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Originally Posted by
Joerg
Actually, the German word is 'Hexe' (or 'Hexer' for males), but the etymologies are probably related.
Yeah, sorry - I typed without checking. It's similar in several Germanic languages...
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In the strip 437, before V deintegrate the horse, the reins are grey, after V desintegrate the horse, the reins become brown.
Took me some time to notice it.
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If you zoom in close, you can see that they are only grey against the horse's bones. The part that's seen over the blue sky background is brown.
My guess is that the grey part is due to anti-aliasing in the art program, and wouldn't be seen as such in the print version.