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Worst "VS" Arguments You've Heard?
Title says it all: what are the worst rationalizations on a VS argument you have heard? (Doesn't have to be the original argument on the thread.)
I remember one that said that Itachi (from Naruto) could beat Galactus (Marvel) because of Sharingan.
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Goku vs. Superman. I just got tired of hearing about it on the Marvel boards.
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Originally Posted by
Erts
I remember one that said that Itachi (from Naruto) could beat Galactus (Marvel) because of Sharingan.
The power of PLOT is like that.
Mine?
Engineer(TF2) vs The Mechanist(Fallout 3).
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Originally Posted by
orchitect
Goku vs. Superman. I just got tired of hearing about it on the Marvel boards.
And on the DBZ board.
And on the Comics and Graphic Novels board.
And on the Cartoons and Animation board.
And on the Anime and Manga board.
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The cast of Seinfeld could take out the cast of Friends.
I am not making this up.
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Originally Posted by
Haruki-kun
The cast of Seinfeld could take out the cast of Friends.
I dunno about that one. The cast of Friends is huge. Seinfeld has the fat guy and boredom going for them though..
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Originally Posted by
orchitect
Goku vs. Superman. I just got tired of hearing about it on the Marvel boards.
Umm... could someone explain, for the benefit of the clueless, what was so bad about that?
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Originally Posted by
Haruki-kun
The cast of Seinfeld could take out the cast of Friends.
The characters or the actors?
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Originally Posted by
Dervag
Umm... could someone explain, for the benefit of the clueless, what was so bad about that?
It's not inherently a bad vs., but it was probably ruined by reactionary fanboys on both sides.
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Originally Posted by
Dervag
Umm... could someone explain, for the benefit of the clueless, what was so bad about that?
Aside from the sheer repetitiveness of one of the internet's most classic Vs match-ups - Supes is a DC property, not Marvel. This is roughly equivalent to talking about Penny Arcade constantly on the VGCats site, or about Order of the Stick non-stop at a Lord of the Rings fansite.
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Originally Posted by
JaxGaret
The characters or the actors?
Characters.
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Or TV Tropes on the Playground.
...
Wait.
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I jokingly began a Goku vs Superman debate with one of my roommates once.
It ended with him telling me that Goku would win because he perceives Goku as winning, and that reality is merely a construct of his own mental faculties, so whatever he believed to be true, was in fact true.
I then stared open mouthed at him and told him that we would never engage in a debate with one another ever again, as his solipsism cop-out was so amazingly ridiculous, he had effectively gone forward in time and made a dumbass cop out to every single conversation we would ever have in the future.
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Originally Posted by
Xefas
It ended with him telling me that Goku would win because he perceives Goku as winning, and that reality is merely a construct of his own mental faculties, so whatever he believed to be true, was in fact true.
I then stared open mouthed at him and told him that we would never engage in a debate with one another ever again, as his solipsism cop-out was so amazingly ridiculous, he had effectively gone forward in time and made a dumbass cop out to every single conversation we would ever have in the future.
Tell me, what is it like to be rooming with a clinically insane egomaniac?
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Originally Posted by
Haruki-kun
Characters.
There's no contest, Friends all the way. They're younger, there's more of them, and the Seinfeld cast are generally portrayed as being completely useless in a fight, except for Kramer.
Unless the argument was that Kramer would destroy the whole Friends cast by himself....
EDIT: Actually Elaine can fight too, but probably only about as well as Phoebe or Monica can, so that's a wash.
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Originally Posted by
JaxGaret
EDIT: Actually Elaine can fight too, but probably only about as well as Phoebe or Monica can, so that's a wash.
Don't forget, they have the fat guy to hit people with.
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Originally Posted by AstralFire
Tell me, what is it like to be rooming with a clinically insane egomaniac?
Reality is what you make it.
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Jax? You're scaring me. -quakes in fear-
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Originally Posted by
Xefas
I jokingly began a Goku vs Superman debate with one of my roommates once.
It ended with him telling me that Goku would win because he perceives Goku as winning, and that reality is merely a construct of his own mental faculties, so whatever he believed to be true, was in fact true.
I then stared open mouthed at him and told him that we would never engage in a debate with one another ever again, as his solipsism cop-out was so amazingly ridiculous, he had effectively gone forward in time and made a dumbass cop out to every single conversation we would ever have in the future.
It's not really a terrible argument. Such a confrontation will only ever take place in my mind...so whoever I think will win, will win....As long as he maintains that as his own opinion, and doesn't try to force it on others, it seems fine to me.
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Originally Posted by
Anteros
It's not really a terrible argument. Such a confrontation will only ever take place in my mind...so whoever I think will win, will win....As long as he maintains that as his own opinion, and doesn't try to force it on others, it seems fine to me.
It's a valid way to live life. Just... don't go into an argument with that mindset, since that's not fair to the other participant.
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AstralFire
Tell me, what is it like to be rooming with a clinically insane egomaniac?
Pretty interesting in most ways. We just can't have civilized discussions about things we disagree on. Which is a shame, really, as I believe him to be pretty intelligent under all the insanity.
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Originally Posted by
AstralFire
Jax? You're scaring me. -quakes in fear-
My job is done here.
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okay, I got one:
Jango Fett vs. Boba Fett
IMO, Jango would win:smalltongue:
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Basically anything Vs. Necrons. Doesn't matter where you are (though a WH40K-related board/shop/etc. helps with this).
Not that pitting them against various Sci-Fi forces is necessarily a bad idea, but it always devolves into "C'Tan beat anything and everything ever" even if the initial premise involves "leave the C'Tan out of this."
Sure, when it's Chaos vs. something nobody seriously contests that Khorne is going to get all up in their business, and when it's Imperium vs. something nobody brings up that maybe the God-Emperor will suddenly wake up and lay waste to everything. Why's the Nightbringer get to settle every skirmish? :smallannoyed:
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Geesi
Basically anything Vs. Necrons. Doesn't matter where you are (though a WH40K-related board/shop/etc. helps with this).
Not that pitting them against various Sci-Fi forces is necessarily a bad idea, but it always devolves into "C'Tan beat anything and everything ever" even if the initial premise involves "leave the C'Tan out of this."
Sure, when it's Chaos vs. something nobody seriously contests that Khorne is going to get all up in their business, and when it's Imperium vs. something nobody brings up that maybe the God-Emperor will suddenly wake up and lay waste to everything. Why's the Nightbringer get to settle every skirmish? :smallannoyed:
Actually, everything in 40k is like this.
"The Emperor will wake up/die and be reincarnated, he wins."
"If the Chaos Gods ever stop infighting and work together, they win."
"The Tyranids (or maybe the Orks) make up 99% of sentient life in the universe, they win."
"When the Eldar engineer the right circumstances for Khaine to reform from his Avatars, they win."
"Gork and Mork the strongest there is! Gork and Mork smash! Orks win."
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I think Seinfeld would win. They are far more sociopathic. And the lives of pretty much everyone they encounter are ruined somehow.
They'd send those Friends sissies crying all the way back to the Gap.
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JaxGaret
Actually, everything in 40k is like this.
"The Emperor will wake up/die and be reincarnated, he wins."
"If the Chaos Gods ever stop infighting and work together, they win."
"The Tyranids (or maybe the Orks) make up 99% of sentient life in the universe, they win."
"When the Eldar engineer the right circumstances for Khaine to reform from his Avatars, they win."
"Gork and Mork the strongest there is! Gork and Mork smash! Orks win."
Basically, everyone is on the verge of curbstomping everbody (except Tau, those communist pansies), but nobody's every going to win or lose until Games Workshop decides it doesn't like money anymore.
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They wouldn't -win- per se, so much as scuffle and retreat. However, the perpetual aura of bad luck, neurosis, and misery that follows them (quite similar to Dethklok's really, but much less gory) would ensure that none of the Friends would truly be happy again, not without the suffering of other innocent human beings.
...
I miss Seinfeld, is what I'm saying here.
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JaxGaret
"When the Eldar engineer the right circumstances for Khaine to reform from his Avatars, they win."
Actually, Khaine sucks. He got soloed by Slaanesh. Their new goal is to kill themselves so that their psychic death cries awaken their new god.
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Originally Posted by
Lerky
okay, I got one:
Jango Fett vs. Boba Fett
IMO, Jango would win:smalltongue:
Well yeah - an adult bounty hunter with all sorts of awesome gear against a little kid isn't exactly a fair fight.:smallcool:
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The_Glyphstone
Well yeah - an adult bounty hunter with all sorts of awesome gear against a little kid isn't exactly a fair fight.:smallcool:
What are you talking about? It's a little kid versus a decapitated but very well equipped corpse. :smallconfused:
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You're both crazy. It's a Mary Sue stuck in a giant spaceworm versus someone who kind of looks like the Rock in cool blue armor.
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AstralFire
Tell me, what is it like to be rooming with a clinically insane egomaniac?
Since, in the US there is no actual medical disease known as insanity, he couldn't be. He could have a myriad of other problems, and in court he could probably be considered criminally insane, though.
Being criminally insane just means that, during the time of the crime, something prevented you from functioning as a normal, rational human being capable of understanding the consequences and illegality of your actions. It could be anything from really intense rage to actually having severe mental problems.
Nitpickmobile, away!
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AstralFire
You're both crazy. It's a Mary Sue stuck in a giant spaceworm versus someone who kind of looks like the Rock in cool blue armor.
I thought Boba got better out?
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The_Glyphstone
I thought Boba got better out?
Indiana Jones kicked him back there from his YT-747.
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AstralFire
Indiana Jones kicked him back there from his YT-747.
Ugh. Harrison Ford. :smallyuk:
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Anyone at all Vs. Sauron.
I am so glad the universe grew out of that fad.
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darkblade
Anyone at all Vs. Sauron.
I am so glad the universe grew out of that fad.
You Vs Sauron.
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I kinda love the fact that any vs thread devolves into a popularity fight.
Any attempt to legitamately quantify or translate the "beings" involved in the fight (into say RP terms) so they can actually be compared (say by then doing a fight in said terms) loses out to the "My "guy/side" wins cause I like him more and I've never even read/saw/heard of the other "side" (which I don't even bother to look up or look into becouse that would be too much work..)
Unfortunately I've just described 80% of posters on vs threads...:smallsigh:
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anything vs warhammer
The setting is so inconsistent that it's impossible to make a cohesive argument. That's not even mentioning the rabid fanboys.
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Great Wall of Chine v. Berlin Wall, like, nothing involving politics or culture from the countries, just the two inanimate walls fighting each other.
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Berserk Monk
Great Wall of Chine v. Berlin Wall, like, nothing involving politics or culture from the countries, just the two inanimate walls fighting each other.
it's a stalemate seeing as neither can move.
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Lord of Rapture
Basically, everyone is on the verge of curbstomping everbody (except Tau, those communist pansies), but nobody's every going to win or lose until Games Workshop decides it doesn't like money anymore.
I read a great fanfic on the Black Library boards where the Tau basically took over the galaxy. The best part is that all of it made perfect, and I mean perfect, sense. Even the part where they resurrect Guilliman. Yup. :smallwink:
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Kyuubi
it's a stalemate seeing as neither can move.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers...9250&type=card
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Originally Posted by
DMfromTheAbyss
I kinda love the fact that any vs thread devolves into a popularity fight.
Any attempt to legitamately quantify or translate the "beings" involved in the fight (into say RP terms) so they can actually be compared (say by then doing a fight in said terms) loses out to the "My "guy/side" wins cause I like him more and I've never even read/saw/heard of the other "side" (which I don't even bother to look up or look into becouse that would be too much work..)
Unfortunately I've just described 80% of posters on vs threads...:smallsigh:
This is what would happen in an "any" fight.
Try to keep up
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Pretty much all of them. But my prejudice against Vs. threads is long-stated :smallbiggrin:
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Anyone Vs Batman.
Sorry, but someone had to say it. :smalltongue:
There probably are worse hyped-up can't-argue-with-them and lalalalalalala I-can't-hear-you fanboys/girls out there. Sadly the Batman ones are the ones that I find to be.... memorable. :smalltongue:
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Porthos
Anyone Vs Batman.
Sorry, but someone had to say it. :smalltongue:
There probably are worse hyped-up can't-argue-with-them and lalalalalalala I-can't-hear-you fanboys/girls out there. Sadly the Batman ones are the ones that I find to be.... memorable. :smalltongue:
I'm here to plan and chew bubblegum.
And I'm all out of bat anti-shark spray.
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AstralFire
I'm here to plan and chew bubblegum.
I love that movie. :smallcool:
Also, I forgot a close second for me in All Time Worst Vs. Threads:
That bloody awful Voldermort vs. Darth Vader thread that was on this very board a year (??) or so ago. Nothing but argumenative fans as far as the eye could see.
Never mind that the universes were so disparate and so dissimilar that you couldn't get a good discussion going (which is, of course, the main problem of 95% of Vs. threads). Nope. Just "I love my movie series more than your movie series, therefore "I Win"".
Horrific. :smallsigh:
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In the first official DC/Marvel (or Marvel/DC, if you prefer) company-wide crossover (you know, the one in the mid-90s that briefly created the hilariously wacky Amalgam Comics), there was a Wolverine vs. Lobo fight. The results of the battles were determined by reader's votes (instead of, I dunno, logic or story-driven plot), so Wolverine beat Lobo.
Wolverine.
Beat.
LOBO.
I'm not kidding. Now, Logan's one tough hombre; we all know that, & Marvel won't let us easily forget. But seriously. Lobo has gone head-to-head against Superman & held his own. He's in a different power league entirely. I'm sorry, but there is just no credible way that Wolverine could hope to survive a battle with Lobo. His popularity may act as a shield, but it would be like Worlverine taking on Darkseid. It's just silly.
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The_Glyphstone
I thought Boba got better out?
IIRC he did. It was in "Tales from Jabba's Palace". Its a good book if you can grab it. There's even a story about the Rancor keeper. Its my personal favorite; and its very touching.
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Zeta Kai
Wolverine.
Beat.
LOBO.
Insanity!!!! Lobo should have ripped him in half and tossed him into the sun-or something more dramatic and violent. Wolverine shouldn't have been able to get back up from that fight, and this is before he walked out of a nuclear explosion.
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I'm sorry, but there is just no credible way that Wolverine could hope to survive a battle with Lobo.
Wolverine survived a nuclear explosion burning away all of his flesh except a few skin cells inside his skull. He can survive, but I agree that he could not win.
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ZK. I am ashamed of you. The pub bar is a weapon on the level of the Ultimate Nullifier; Wolverine's masterful off-screen usage of it was a pure skill defeat of the crazed bounty hunter.
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AstralFire
ZK. I am ashamed of you. The pub bar is a weapon on the level of the Ultimate Nullifier; Wolverine's masterful off-screen usage of it was a pure skill defeat of the crazed bounty hunter.
On that note:
I
Hate
Squirrel Girl
There, I said it and I'm not taking it back. There's a limit to how far tongue-in-cheek gets you, and Squirrel Girl is past it. Dead meme is dead. :smallmad:
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orchitect
I read a great fanfic on the Black Library boards where the Tau basically took over the galaxy. The best part is that all of it made perfect, and I mean perfect, sense. Even the part where they resurrect Guilliman. Yup. :smallwink:
Rise of the Tau
Thanks for the tip, I hope it's a good read :smallsmile:
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JaxGaret
Sorry about that spoiler. I hope you enjoy it.
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ZeroNumerous
On that note:
I
Hate
Squirrel Girl
There, I said it and I'm not taking it back. There's a limit to how far tongue-in-cheek gets you, and Squirrel Girl is past it. Dead meme is dead. :smallmad:
Its alright. Most of us grow out of our SG phases at some point. Most of us... just not the writers and editors.
The fight with Lobo was before the nuke in Civil War which should have been impossible.
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Originally Posted by
Porthos
I love that movie. :smallcool:
Also, I forgot a close second for me in All Time Worst Vs. Threads:
That bloody awful Voldermort vs. Darth Vader thread that was on this very board a year (??) or so ago. Nothing but argumenative fans as far as the eye could see.
Never mind that the universes were so disparate and so dissimilar that you couldn't get a good discussion going (which is, of course, the main problem of 95% of Vs. threads). Nope. Just "I love my movie series more than your movie series, therefore "I Win"".
Horrific. :smallsigh:
It really all depends on if someone got a surprise round or not.
If not, it's a tie.
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ZeroNumerous
On that note:
I
Hate
Squirrel Girl
There, I said it and I'm not taking it back. There's a limit to how far tongue-in-cheek gets you, and Squirrel Girl is past it. Dead meme is dead. :smallmad:
I kind of appreciated her taking the joke that is Dr. Doom down a peg, but that was about it.
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Ninjas vs Pirates. As usual.
"A Ninja can make love to a woman and be done before she even knows what's going on!!!"
Soo... They're premature? Or just impotent?
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Zeta Kai
Wolverine.
Beat.
LOBO.
Yeah, that was messed up. They actually said in one of Lobo's books that he was paid to throw the fight. Not the the Wolverine fans will accept that.
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I kind of appreciated her taking the joke that is Dr. Doom down a peg, but that was about it.
Liked her fight with Deadpool. In that case she won because he couldn't stop laughing. That's how it should go.
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DragonBaneDM
Ninjas vs Pirates. As usual.
"A Ninja can make love to a woman and be done before she even knows what's going on!!!"
Soo... They're premature? Or just impotent?
Don't forget very poorly endowed.