ACRONYM OOC XIV: Can we talk?

Since Darkcomet really really really hates apocaplots, you really should not send your book at his characters, ED. Check the table below and look for players who are more receptive.

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How do you feel about apocalypse plots as a player (saving the world), rather than as a GM (bringing teh apocadoom)? Rate your opinion on a 0-5 scale.


0 - I hate them! I would be happy if there were no more of them ever.

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5 - I love them! It wouldn't be Acro if the world wasn't continually in danger! Saving the world is my favourite plot!

((And no, I'm not suggesting a blanket ban on them or anything. Just gathering data for some nefarious purpose my own curiousity.))

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{table=head]Player|score
Iames|3
DC|0
Morty|1
iElf|2
Falgorn|2
happyturtle|0
Wolfbane|1
Je dit Viola|2.5
Firefox|0
Shrimp|2.5
apeoflight|2.5
Recaiden|2.5
D_Lord|4
Boo|3
Inigo|1
billtodamax|3
Magtok*|0
Saurous*|0
horngeek|3
Bergett|1
Kurama|3
Beans|2
Rebonack|5
Eternal Drifter|14
Bushranger|1

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Average: 1.92
Median: 2

* rating given in chat

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Originally Posted by Eternal Drifter

That book is the ultimate book of magic, creator, alterer, and destroyer of worlds. A future Apopcolypse plot, but not yet.

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Do excuse me, I have to clean up my keyboard.
I got blood on it from stabbing myself in the face while reading this.


@iElf: Shouldn't they be meeting with the sentient dung beetles first?

Ah, right. >.> I'll include an Imperial Army investigation now that the battle at the HQ is over, iElf.

The book is not fully active yet. It is out to gather more power, though. So, everyone has some time... and Random Encounters increases it's options.

It waits for stuff to happen to it... for now...

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Originally Posted by Beans

Do excuse me, I have to clean up my keyboard.
I got blood on it from stabbing myself in the face while reading this.


@iElf: Shouldn't they be meeting with the sentient dung beetles first?

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they didn't want to speak with EDN:smallfrown:. **** gets turn into food now:smallyuk:

Even so. The people who hate apocaplots won't like them more just because they're slow and building up.

Remember, we're doing this for fun. Fighting your book would not be fun for some people, so don't send your book at them. It's simple. :smallsmile:

(Also, anyone who isn't on the table who would like to be, let me know and I'll add you.)

As long as it will only affect those whose players care about this, I'll keep my bile to a minimum.

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Originally Posted by Beans

As long as it will only affect those whose players care about this, I'll keep my bile to a minimum.

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The funny thing here is, if an apocalyptic plot affects only a handful of people who care, it's not much of an apocalypse, is it?

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Originally Posted by Eternal Drifter

The book is not fully active yet. It is out to gather more power, though. So, everyone has some time... and Random Encounters increases it's options.

It waits for stuff to happen to it... for now...

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Great yet you tell us not to get any ideas as it's PL 11. Woopie :smallmad: Quite frankly I find the very idea of such a thing quite repulsive. I have no issues with Apocolypse plots, what I do have an issue with is things that are oh so powerful. Frankly if it's the ultimate book of magic I might as well never play a magic user while it's around. After all won't it just be able to subvert my powers, oh look someone is trying to resist might as well just wipe them away, and destroy them utterly, what avoidance what is that.

I like a good plot but having something that has the potential to be that powerful is just ridiculous. The most fun Apocalypse plots are the ones that are more fragile in the final stages, and it's a desperate battle between heroes and villains to try and prevent something from going off. Sure the villain can be powerful but.. this seems ridiculous.

That's kinda the problem if the players who don't like Apocalypse plots don't get involved and the book succeeds what then, are they just going to keep playing and ignore it? If so as Morty said not much of an apocalypse plot eh?

Maybe not, Morty, but the only way to make a plot that affects everyone is to set it up as a pbp game where you're the GM.

I try to burn the book. LOL NOE CAN'T DO THAT IT'S MAGIC.
I fire magic lightning at it. LOL NOE CAN'T DO THAT IT'S MAGIC.
I stab it? LOL NOE CAN'T DO THAT IT'S MAGIC.
I inject lighter fluid into my bladder, urinate on the book, and throw a match. LOL NOE CAN'T DO THAT IT'S MAGIC.

Oh, by the way. Spoiler alert...
YET AGAIN, THE APOCALYPSE WON'T HAPPEN.

The plot is a work in progress... I have yet to decide many things about it... How exactly it happens, for example.

I do know that the book is going to be in the center of it. What exactly it's powers are will be determined by what happens to it...

And because it doesn't seem fair to drop a plot on others when you're not wanting one yourself... up my willingness for Apocolypse plots to 4. Drifter will participate in them.

PS: Drifter said "Bored" in the tavern. Is a random encounter coming there? Since the book is away, it's power will not grow unless Turtle takes it there.

PPS: Errr... the markets are in Inside, yes? Because that's where Turtle is taking the spellbook...

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Originally Posted by happyturtle

Maybe not, Morty, but the only way to make a plot that affects everyone is to set it up as a pbp game where you're the GM.

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Yes, of course. I wasn't trying to argue for or against them, just pointing something out.

You know, it's possible to have Apocolyptic Characters without having an Apocolyptic Plot. I've done it before.

... Power Level 11.
Urgh.

Now, if it's PL11 in a narrow field of stuff, that would be somewhat less urgh.

Perhaps I'll have it reduced to PL 10... it's not going completely wild yet...

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Originally Posted by Eternal Drifter

The plot is a work in progress... I have yet to decide many things about it... How exactly it happens, for example.

I do know that the book is going to be in the center of it. What exactly it's powers are will be determined by what happens to it...

And because it doesn't seem fair to drop a plot on others when you're not wanting one yourself... up my willingness for Apocolypse plots to 4. Drifter will participate in them.

PS: Drifter said "Bored" in the tavern. Is a random encounter coming there? Since the book is away, it's power will not grow unless Turtle takes it there.

PPS: Errr... the markets are in Inside, yes? Because that's where Turtle is taking the spellbook...

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1. Random encounters come when someone has the urge to run a random encounter. They aren't scheduled or anything. Don't expect any from me tonight. Spoons are low.

2. Yes, the markets are Inside. But the player who usually runs them isn't online yet, so Turtle is caught in a batch of deadtime on the way.

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Originally Posted by Eternal Drifter

Perhaps I'll have it reduced to PL 10... it's not going completely wild yet...

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I think 8 or 9 would be more than sufficient.

Let me put it this way here is the PL chart okay

The rating system
1.Defensless (Lvl 0)
2.Civillian (Lvl 1-3)
3.Adventurer (Lvl 4-8)
4.Hero (Lvl 9-12)
5.Great Hero (Lvl 13-20)
6.Hero of Legend (Lvl 21-30)
7.Demi God (Lvl 31 plus)
8.Lesser God
9.Greater God
10.God-killer
11.Forget about it

There is a reason why PL 11 is called forget about it. PL 10 is a a god-killer both are ridiculous, and while I enjoy a fun Apocalyptic plot I'm afraid I'm simply not going to be able to involve my characters in this as the most powerful of my characters is between 4 and 5. I see no reason to kill off the characters I enjoy playing by involving them in a plot that seems like it is likely to be unfairly powerful.

Heck I've got a villain now who is in the PL 4-5 range and while their goal may not be to end the world it is to take over the world. So, someone doesn't need to be really powerful to accomplish something. You're book could for example possess the knowledge of a way to end the world, and a ability to try and control people who come near it, this would be a neat plot as as people tried to stop the person who has fallen under the books thrall they risk falling into it's thrall themselves and trying to end the world. And you know there you have a maybe PL 5 character that could pull off the end of the world

* hugs Wolfbane * Goodbye.

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Originally Posted by Kid Kris

Edit: Wait, Ashna's still meant to be Good, right? A member of GloG? She hasn't fallen to the Dark Side or anything without me noticing.

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No, she's not. No, she gave some money to help with building the new base and left. And it's more of a slow-walk-down-a-hillside to the Dark Side now that Happy and Runner aren't around to encourage her being good, but yes.

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Originally Posted by Boo

Too much detail makes for a bad story. Also: Throwing the brown logic at someone's face really doesn't help. At all. Ever. Not even then.

EDIT 2: Is it just me, or do I read as aggressive?

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You read as aggressive. But I seem to think you usually do. So that might just be the two of us.

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Originally Posted by iElf

And I kind of likes the idea of them being like tyranid mooks.

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I like the humanoid termagaunt idea. Just saying.

Right... 8 then, for the Lore Grimore.

For Reference:

Eternal Drifter: Level 3
Lore Grimore: Level 8
Nep: Level 0/1

Poor Brendan. Doesn't even rate as a good influence on his own wife. :smalltongue:

For reference...
Thryza: 4/5
Vocusta: 4/5
Blah blah blah uninteresting four-fives.
Carrion: 8/7.5. To expound: Carrie is a lesser deity of death. She is a kind and compassionate one, a sort of sisterly guide to the next world. I try to use her responsibly.

Uh... I don't think any of my other characters are really much more than four or five... whatever.

EDIT: DC, I'm not sure where to put Dr. Xanthin when I start posting with her.
NOTE: Beans is kind of an idiot. :P
She's finishing up some weapons' designs and stuff, or rather, she will be when I post her.

Erm I added this on after I posted, so it likely went unnoticed.

Heck I've got a villain now who is in the PL 4-5 range and while their goal may not be to end the world it is to take over the world. So, someone doesn't need to be really powerful to accomplish something. You're book could for example possess the knowledge of a way to end the world, and a ability to try and control people who come near it, this would be a neat plot as as people tried to stop the person who has fallen under the books thrall they risk falling into it's thrall themselves and trying to end the world. And you know there you have a maybe PL 5 character that could pull off the end of the world, course PL 5 would assume it had a fair bit of it's own magical power besides just charming. So spells and the like, perhaps you could also give it some way to find out what's happened in the past or something to represent how it's a lore book

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Originally Posted by Beans

EDIT: DC, I'm not sure where to put Dr. Xanthin when I start posting with her.
NOTE: Beans is kind of an idiot. :P
She's finishing up some weapons' designs and stuff, or rather, she will be when I post her.

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Ah. I'll probably make an independent thread for that when it seems to be ready, okay?

So, EleventhHour, since you're the one with a final say in the matter, how is it going to be with the retcon in which Dipsnig is as smart as he's supposed to be and doesn't shoot Elly?

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Originally Posted by Darkcomet

Ah. I'll probably make an independent thread for that when it seems to be ready, okay?

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Alrighty then!

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Originally Posted by Morty

So, EleventhHour, since you're the one with a final say in the matter, how is it going to be with the retcon in which Dipsnig is as smart as he's supposed to be and doesn't shoot Elly?

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>.>

I'm leaving it up to you and Magtok, I've given up on caring about how it will go either way, after thinking about it.

(IE : Stupid Godling War, or no chance to have fun trying to wreck a place.)

So, whatever you guys want is fine with me. I've moved on. :smalltongue:

oh , and beans, mind if Yamako and Wenomir join your little infiltration squad? Yamako is a shadowrun character, and infiltrating megacorps is what they do best ^_^_^ ....damn, I think my smiley mutated.....

If they happen to meet up with Natya and Spaz, I won't particularly mind.