Title kind of explains it all, trying to fit in either GWM or crossbow expert onto a 9th level sorcerer that should have at least 7 levels of Divine soul.
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Title kind of explains it all, trying to fit in either GWM or crossbow expert onto a 9th level sorcerer that should have at least 7 levels of Divine soul.
Use your level 4 ASI or take it with Variant Human.
I can't make a viable build with 7 sorcerer, but can with 6.
Of the two, I'd grab GWM. You'll want 3 levels of warlock (sorry, I just couldn't do it with 7.) This let's you use a greatsword, and as a bonus medium armor, so can leave dex at 14. Going to want Con at 14 too. Everything else you can get goes to Cha. You'll probably want V. human to pick up GWM.
Now, you only have one attack a turn... normally, but that's not a problem due to sorcerer and a little spell called Green Flame Blade. Learn it well, its now your best friend.
Spam quicken when you can. View your GWM as a resource bonus. Whenever you get a nat 20 (or 19), you don't have to expand that resource.
Its a doable class that does a ton of damage. You never need warlock again.
The main problem is going to be your HP. You're going to be incredibly squishy as a divine soul. I'd recommend Draconic or a UA one if you can get away with it, but this class definitely works as is and you'll be fine.
Agreed. There's nothing wrong with delaying Charisma progression to take something you like, especially if battles aren't deadly in the campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verble
Crossbow Expert is a good late game feat on Sorlocks, since the "Being within 5 feet of a hostile creature doesn’t impose disadvantage on your ranged attack rolls" part applies to Eldritch Blast.
Other than that, there is no way to make either feat good on a Sorcerer. You could, however, take it for RP value.
Offset the squishiness slightly by using a reach weapon from behind someone more sturdy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganryu
XBE is also really good early feat for a sorlock.Quote:
Originally Posted by OgataiKhan
It make a Melee EBster work effectively and let you always cast in full power when near enemies.
I find that the casters are a bigger target in the early game as they have less escape/safe option so I find it more useful in the early game.
Totally worth playing with 18 cha instead of 20 for an extra 4 levels.
@people suggesting 3 levels of Warlock, I remind that OP asked for GWM or Xbow Expert on a *Sorcerer*. Not a dual-class.Quote:
Originally Posted by SquirtleSquad
On topic: for a pure Sorcerer I'd definitely favor XBE. I'd be afraid of taking a bad hit if in melee, and unless you really built your Sorcerer that will happen often.
Of course, if you are not against multiclassing, even just one level of Warlock should cover you AC-wise (medium armor + short-rest Shield).
With that said I'm not sure to understand why you would want either?
As far as bonus action go, as a Divine Soul you should already have several rounds where you want to use bonus action on a spell (Healing Words, Sanctuary, Shield of Faith). You could also learn Spiritual Weapon to up your damage if that's really your thing.
Or grab Spell Sniper with Eldricht Blast, that you could potentially Quicken.
If you really want to go into melee instead, a Booming Blade/GreenFlame Blade paired with an upcast Shadow Blade will deal a level of hurt similar to a Rogue of comparative level.
And you can always pair that with another Quickened Booming Blade, or a Quickened Guiding Bolt cast before you reach melee range to ensure the BB lands.
What exactly did you have in mind with either of those feats?
I agree. Sorlocks benefit more from maxing Cha and taking War Caster/Resilient: Con/Wis.Quote:
Originally Posted by OgataiKhan
so....first i need to know what you're looking for with those feats?Quote:
Originally Posted by SquirtleSquad
as people have pointed out xbe allows you to cast ranged attack spells in melee.
so are you wanting to actually use the associated weapons? or just have the feat? or..what?