League of Legends XXXVIII: Featuring Mumble, The Giant Halibut

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Originally Posted by Math_Mage

The problem I encounter with AP Eve late-game is that, as an AD carry, I get one-shot in every teamfight. Since I'm kind of important for teamfighting, this is a problem.

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That ... is kinda ... strange, considering she has no burst to speak of.

Even so, isn't she like most other AP assassins? (Diana, Akali, urm, LeBlanc?) The team has to know how to peel and protect.

Every AP-carry which can afford going DFG + Lichbane has burst, and her ult hurts like a truck as well.

With regards to Pokemon, I think we really need a Pkmn Trainer Yorick skin.

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Originally Posted by Terribad

That ... is kinda ... strange, considering she has no burst to speak of.

Even so, isn't she like most other AP assassins? (Diana, Akali, urm, LeBlanc?) The team has to know how to peel and protect.

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She's more like Mordekaiser except she can get close more easily. Her ult scales by 2%/100 AP. So at the usual 600AP it's doing ~37% of their current health in one-shot burst (better than Morde's one-shot burst though worse than his longterm damage). Then you add to that DFG, Lichbane and the 1.0 Ravage and surprisingly decent constant damage from Hate Spike (it's kinda similar to Cassiopeia Q really) and then remember that Evelynn is superfast late and the cloaking does allow her to get pretty close without being seen and she becomes positively scary.

When I assessed Eve AP originally, I didn't realize just how good an AP ratio her ult has. It's positively amazing. So yeah, she can be dealt with but she does hurt.

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Originally Posted by Terribad

Ok I have finally met three AP mid Eves. They knew what they were doing. Very good roaming/ganker with the speed buff letting her run back to mid to prevent a push.

Opposing Eves mainly went tanky (Rylais, RoA, Abyssal). Gets squished fast if done full AP. Not particularly impressive really. Viable I think if top lane has a more bursty AP top, like say Galio or Gragas. She peaks in mid-game

Late game, not really useful imho. Main strength is in enabling snowballing on the other lanes with her ganks to close the game in mid-game stages.

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No DFG to speak of? That's really strange, since that's pretty much the core for AP Eve from what I've seen. That plus her ult will pretty much gib the ADC; that's her role in late game fights from what I've seen. Where's Eve? Wher--- oh. There goes the carry.

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Originally Posted by Nadevoc

No DFG to speak of? That's really strange, since that's pretty much the core for AP Eve from what I've seen. That plus her ult will pretty much gib the ADC; that's her role in late game fights from what I've seen. Where's Eve? Wher--- oh. There goes the carry.

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I'd totally agree with this. Having played a game yesterday as Corki against an AP eve, until I built Banshee's I was a shadow of a player in teamfights. I'd manage to get a bit of dps out but once she was on me even with a Valk away I was still dying easily. After the banshees, and telling my team they HAD to stop Eve (and fast), it was more managable.

Most deaths would end up with Hate spike at around 500 damage, DFG at 3-400, Ravage at a similar level and the ult at a similar level (obviously can only see 3 damage sources per death so not sure on all of them). But the fact she can kill an ADC on her own means she's incredibly dangerous. If they don't have the ability to get away, like Corki does, then they're in even more trouble. Plus the shield on her ult can be huge if she gets the right number of people in it.

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Originally Posted by Terribad

Opposing Eves mainly went tanky (Rylais, RoA, Abyssal).

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The assassin with up to a 1500HP shield should *NOT* be building RoA+Rylai's, so I'm going out on a limb here, and saying you've not seen a good Eve.

Also, as others have said, DFG is *INCREDIBLY* common on AP mid Eve at my Elo.

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my comic didn't win even though it had that teemo in it though buff plz riot

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Originally Posted by Dogmantra

we've all been reading it wrong guys

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my comic didn't win even though it had that teemo in it though buff plz riot

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Dog! *glomps*
You were missed.

Also, Kha'Zix is the most fun ever. That is all. :smallbiggrin:

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Originally Posted by Dogmantra

we've all been reading it wrong guys

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And for our top story today: Dr. Mundo has sewn Darius's rectal sphincter shut. As we speak, his brother Dr. Aven's making an exit.

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Originally Posted by Winthur

And for our top story today: Dr. Mundo has sewn Darius's rectal sphincter shut. As we speak, his brother Dr. Aven's making an exit.

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oh
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edit: three minutes later. still laughing. best. pun. ever.

Team PB&J strikes again! Seriously, I love these guys.

Poor Kog'maw.... not cute enough to be considered Pokemon.

unlike Venipede here
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edit: I wonder how the Honor system will turn out. Frankly I think judging someone's friendliness through a single game experience will be highly inaccurate. I foresee some honor assignment regrets.

Problem is, Honor does nothing. Is it visible during the game, at least, instead of only after and maybe before? Will it be used for matchmaking?

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Originally Posted by Qwertystop

Problem is, Honor does nothing. Is it visible during the game, at least, instead of only after and maybe before? Will it be used for matchmaking?

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Pretty sure they'll just reward people with high honor eventually.

Pentakill Olaf released! gogo Pentakill premades!!!

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Originally Posted by Eldariel

Pretty sure they'll just reward people with high honor eventually.

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I suppose they want to see how the system works before handing out carrots to go with the Tribunal sticks.

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Originally Posted by Qwertystop

Problem is, Honor does nothing. Is it visible during the game, at least, instead of only after and maybe before? Will it be used for matchmaking?

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Somewhere in the announcement/discussion thread, there's a red post saying that, at least for now, they are intentionally not awarding anything for high Honor. They made that decision because they specifically want to identify the people who act honorably because it's honorable, not the people who would act honorably because they want associated rewards.

They might add some kind of reward eventually, but any discussion they might be having on that subject is being kept strictly internal to avoid influencing the current system in a way they don't want right now.

This is, however, only phase 1 of the Honor system. They have plans for more, and I would guess that somewhere in those plans is an attempt to more overtly influence player behavior with a reward system - eventually.

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Originally Posted by SlyGuyMcFly

I suppose they want to see how the system works before handing out carrots to go with the Tribunal sticks.

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Lyte said that this is pretty much the case.

Edit: Ninja'd.

My first game of LoL in two months?

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I honestly can say this was my favorite game of all time.

The picture doesn't do it justice. We lost a couple of the lanes early, and ended up pushed into our base with one nexus tower dead.

And we turned it around. Not in one lucky fight and a run down the middle. We turned around teamfights through pure skill and coordination several times, took baron, pushed towers, and won the game.

Well, I just did a dominion game and played normally. Then we were engaged in a teamfight and chaos ensues, and then the enemy all dies where we don't lose anyone. I then leave the teamfight with <100 health left wondering how I survived and Eve/Kha'zix/Rengar focus and noticed that my Lulu ulted me. I responded in my usual fasion, "Oh, I was wondering why I didn't die. Thnx Lulu" and hse replied "Np" back. Then later Sion takes the bot turret after killing the Maokai guarding it and I reply "gj sion" and he replies back "thnx", Everywhere and everytime we did something good from then on, we were saying "gj" "Nice" and "thnx" all throughout the game (Except when our annie started to rage) and we won handily.

We then go into post game chat and I see the new honor system and it sort of made sense. I don't know if these guys were just smiling for the honor system or not, but they were friendly enough I gave them all (except annie) a friendly honor mark. As for me, I was just being myself, so I feel good.:smallbiggrin:

First match.

Got +2 honor points.

Had to report a leaver on the enemy team and report my mid for raging at the jungler who was busy helping bot.

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Originally Posted by douglas

Somewhere in the announcement/discussion thread, there's a red post saying that, at least for now, they are intentionally not awarding anything for high Honor. They made that decision because they specifically want to identify the people who act honorably because it's honorable, not the people who would act honorably because they want associated rewards.

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Really? Because I see this as a parallel. Whatever the reasoning is, you end up with less people being nasty and more being constructive.

I am ranked now. ^^
It's only 1274, but it's positive. XD

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Originally Posted by Qwertystop

Problem is, Honor does nothing. Is it visible during the game, at least, instead of only after and maybe before? Will it be used for matchmaking?

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I think it'd be cool if they used it for matchmaking. I'd like to think that, as far as networking goes, people with high honor will be more likely to have friend requests accepted, etc.

Also: If you have high honor and feed, but don't say anything in chat and it doesn't look intentional, I suspect people will be less willing to report you.

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Originally Posted by Nadevoc

No DFG to speak of? That's really strange, since that's pretty much the core for AP Eve from what I've seen. That plus her ult will pretty much gib the ADC; that's her role in late game fights from what I've seen. Where's Eve? Wher--- oh. There goes the carry.

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I guess I met not so competent Eves, no DFG. But they were really a pain being so thick and outputting constant dps with Hate Spike. Another factor could be all three games I played with, we had good peel and sheilds (Alistar, Janna, Karma), plus they knew to look out for Eve zerging the carry.

Now all this Eve talk makes me want to play mid Eve myself!

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Originally Posted by Winthur

And for our top story today: Dr. Mundo has sewn Darius's rectal sphincter shut. As we speak, his brother Dr. Aven's making an exit.

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I...don't get it. According to Lix there is a pun?

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Really? Because I see this as a parallel. Whatever the reasoning is, you end up with less people being nasty and more being constructive.

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On the other hand....

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Originally Posted by LordShotGun

I...don't get it. According to Lix there is a pun?

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When you go B, Draven sometimes says 'Draven making an exit!'
And in this case, Draven is literally... making an exit. Likely with an axe.

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Originally Posted by Lix Lorn

When you go B, Draven sometimes says 'Draven making an exit!'
And in this case, Draven is literally... making an exit. Likely with an axe.

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Ok, I don't play draven and why was he named Dr.Aven's? I had no idea it was about draven.

It's a joke. Because Draven has Dr in it.