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Originally Posted by
Chess435
What terrified me is the fact that people on /b/ of all places were capable of feeling love and compassion, which puts it into direct contradiction of everything I've seen and heard about the place
That's the correct reason for finding that terrifying. Finding out that the ennui and cynicism of our times is not, after all, an unavoidable unreverseable fate does kind of throw your world-view off, potentially.
It's the possibility of the triumph of sincerity over irony and that's genuinely frightening.
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Originally Posted by
Diego Havoc
Hard to say, considering how little we know about her.
Let's say Blueblood, simply because there are so few ships with him that would work anyway.
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Kurgan
And for the Blueblood haters out there, think of the possible names of the fillies! Spitblood and Bluefire. There were no survivors.
Spitfire/Blueblood is an appropriately unlikely pairing for this question, I think. The pun names for children (or perhaps more appropriately to label the ship?) just make it that much better. Perhaps someone more familiar with the protocol of shipping can enlighten us on the correct name for the ship?
Ah, there we go. How about Spittruck for a ship? Spitfire/Hayseed Turnip-Truck?
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Originally Posted by
Luka
?, is that part of the anime? cuz only two I used were Nidoking and gyarados and they just ate everything in general :smallbiggrin:
...wait, it's a hedgehog and that's actually a second form? :smallconfused:
Yes and yes. (Though when Ash's Pikachu infamously "aimed for the horn", it was a Rhydon, not a Nidoking. The meme still works, though.)
As for the second, Shaymin's a Legendary pokemon with two forms, Land Form (the hedgehog looking one) and Sky Form (my avatar). Shaymin transforms to Sky form when exposed to the Gracidea Flower, and reverts back at night or when frozen.
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Originally Posted by
TheAmishPirate
It's pretty neat, but I don't think I'd want to live there. Mostly because I've got some nasty food allergies, and those are just infinitely more irritating to deal with in a foreign country. That, and I'm horrible at learning languages.
練習すれば、早くペラペラになるわけですよ。特に、人々と話す時に、怖くならないでください。http://i.imgur.com/G5T9W.png
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Originally Posted by
Thanqol
It got started on 4chan. I was there. It was terrifying.
All these threads filled with people being nice and helpful and supportive. On 4chan. It was unnatural.
I lurked 4chan pony threads for three weeks before watching an episode.
There was also a sort of second wave effect to it. 4chan is kinda everywhere, with people like Thanqol who frequent many different boards because most 4channers are on the Internet a lot. So certain boards, including this one (where I first noticed ponies) and the Allspark Transformers boards started up threads on My Little Pony. Those in turn caught a fair amount of attention and what you ended up with was discussion about the showing going on the Internet geek crowd. Then it stuck around there for quite a long time, certainly the entire first first season and into that summer, until the huge influx of people who got into it after the first season, the interaction with the show's creators, and a bit of mainstream media coverage (NPR and Fox were first iirc) started it getting bigger.
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Originally Posted by
Dark Elf Bard
PONIES!!!!!!!!!!
That is all.
Pony pony, pon pony?
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Originally Posted by
Raz_Fox
Big ol' Raz Writing post.
To start off, I'm moving my stories - Bright New Days, All Hallow's Night, Misted Stage - onto FiMFiction. And part of FiMFiction's thing is that I need - or, rather, want - cover art for those stories. Does anypony have any recommendations? Would anypony be interested in drawing cover art for them?
Secondly, I'm officially working on Heroics again. Again. I'm close enough to the end that I can taste it, and I'm wondering - given what was already written, would it be prudent to put up on FiMFiction/submit to Equestria Daily? I'm curious as to Ponythread's opinion.
And finally, have a link to the second draft of my latest story,
Dissertations on Dawn: Notable Dawns Throughout Equestrian History. Feedback is appreciated.
Thank you! This has been Raz rambling about his writing stuff.
Nice. Good for you to get writing again.
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Originally Posted by
Luka
....Oh
Now I'm proud of not being a brony :smallbiggrin:
So, you're proud because you avoided being in a controversy, or what? I don't see how learning that bronies were able to spread kindness to one of the darkest places in the Internet makes you proud NOT to be a part of them.
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Originally Posted by
SynissterSyster
Okay my pony friends I have a question for you. Out of all the ponies in Equestria whom is the least likely ship partner for Spitfire? I am looking at some fan fic ideas.
Darn that rules out Iron Will and the Hydra. Okay, um, recolor Halloween Fiddle-playing Octavia.
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Originally Posted by
Chess435
Yes and yes. (Though when Ash's Pikachu infamously "aimed for the horn", it was a Rhydon, not a Nidoking. The meme still works, though.)
....Man, I so wish Nidoking could learn Giga drill break, that would be awesome :smallbiggrin:
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As for the second, Shaymin's a Legendary pokemon with two forms, Land Form (the hedgehog looking one) and Sky Form (my avatar). Shaymin transforms to Sky form when exposed to the Gracidea Flower, and reverts back at night or when frozen.
mmm
Don't know much about Legendary pokemon, only watched the old series and played the old games....
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Originally Posted by
Anarion
So, you're proud because you avoided being in a controversy, or what? I don't see how learning that bronies were able to spread kindness to one of the darkest places in the Internet makes you proud NOT to be a part of them.
Because I'm even more different than 4chan :smallbiggrin: Besides other stuff I prefer not to mention.
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Luka
....Man, I so wish Nidoking could learn Giga drill break, that would be awesome :smallbiggrin:
Actually, he can.... :smallbiggrin:
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Luka
Because I'm even more different than 4chan :smallbiggrin: Besides other stuff I prefer not to mention.
For thee.
For everypony else.
And I think the least likely Spitfire pairing is the Basilisk. We aren't going to see it again.
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Originally Posted by
SynissterSyster
Okay my pony friends I have a question for you. Out of all the ponies in Equestria whom is the least likely ship partner for Spitfire? I am looking at some fan fic ideas.
Rainbow Dash! It's so obvious, they'll never see it coming! Or if you're feeling less silly... I dunno. Cherry Jubilee.
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Originally Posted by
Tvtyrant
And I think the least likely Spitfire pairing is the Basilisk. We aren't going to see it again.
Spitfire visits ponyville and finds that even her team's greatest fan Rainbow Dash has a pet to keep her company these days.
Envious of the fun and companionship she sees amongst the Ponies of Ponyville and their faithful pets, she gives in to temptation when she meets a pursuasive pair of travelling Sales- Ponies on the road back to Canterlot, but will her exotic new best-friend be more trouble than she's worth?
I'm not sure exactly what kind of ship that is, but it seems to be watertight to me and handles well enough in the water.
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Originally Posted by
Tvtyrant
....You actually searched images for my case?...That... Just makes me happy I'm not outcasted for being 2 warlike 4 ponies :smallsmile:
.... :smalleek: OH MAH GOODNESS A FIGHTER!!!! I freaking love you SO MUCH!! *glomps*
Just a note: first image's misleading, that happens all the time in comics over here.... and a lot more times, and for kids that can start from 4 years old too. :smallbiggrin:
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Originally Posted by
Chess435
that's the normal one, I mean GIGA drill breaker :smalltongue:
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Originally Posted by
Tiki Snakes
Spitfire visits ponyville and finds that even her team's greatest fan Rainbow Dash has a pet to keep her company these days.
Envious of the fun and companionship she sees amongst the Ponies of Ponyville and their faithful pets, she gives in to temptation when she meets a pursuasive pair of travelling Sales- Ponies on the road back to Canterlot, but will her exotic new best-friend be more trouble than she's worth?
I'm not sure exactly what kind of ship that is, but it seems to be watertight to me and handles well enough in the water.
...It is official. Anything can be shipped with anything. Tom the fake diamond can be shipped with Spike, as they recover from being rejected by Rarity. Twilight can marry her library, Pinkie Pie can have a tryst with Kranky.
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Tvtyrant
...It is official. Anything can be shipped with anything. Tom the fake diamond can be shipped with Spike, as they recover from being rejected by Rarity. Twilight can marry her library, Pinkie Pie can have a tryst with Kranky.
Oh god, it's like the Crack Pairing thread all over again! Quick, someone program an MLP character slot machine! :smalltongue:
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For the handful of ponythread LoL players out there, games should be starting soon-ish if you'd like to hop on.
For the rest of you, uh...pony?
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TheAmishPirate
For the handful of ponythread LoL players out there, games should be starting soon-ish if you'd like to hop on.
For the rest of you, uh...pony?
You're on the NA servers aren't you Amish?
(my summoner name is my forum name if you are)
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Chess435
Oh god, it's like the Crack Pairing thread all over again! Quick, someone program an MLP character slot machine! :smalltongue:
I would make one, if I knew anything about programming at all.
Because of Team Fortress 2, I mean Thanqol's story I've been listening to that Brains song(by Voltaire) from Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. Specifically this PMV.
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Originally Posted by
SynissterSyster
Okay my pony friends I have a question for you. Out of all the ponies in Equestria whom is the least likely ship partner for Spitfire? I am looking at some fan fic ideas.
Gummy :smalltongue:
Or possibly Starswirl the Bearded, largely because he's been dead for a thousand years.
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Originally Posted by
Raz_Fox
Big ol' Raz Writing post.
To start off, I'm moving my stories - Bright New Days, All Hallow's Night, Misted Stage - onto FiMFiction. And part of FiMFiction's thing is that I need - or, rather, want - cover art for those stories. Does anypony have any recommendations? Would anypony be interested in drawing cover art for them?
Secondly, I'm officially working on Heroics again. Again. I'm close enough to the end that I can taste it, and I'm wondering - given what was already written, would it be prudent to put up on FiMFiction/submit to Equestria Daily? I'm curious as to Ponythread's opinion.
And finally, have a link to the second draft of my latest story,
Dissertations on Dawn: Notable Dawns Throughout Equestrian History. Feedback is appreciated.
Thank you! This has been Raz rambling about his writing stuff.
Woo, review sometime.
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Originally Posted by
SiuiS
Huh. I know you're glossing, but as Mage goes that sounds pretty tame. I mean, weren't their possible futures competing via time magic to see which one really happened? There was a point where flooding Nara was a good thing. I suppose that could relate to the whole Nazi thing though...
They completely dodged the time travel plot and worked super hard to make sure all the high magic plotlines were locked down. All the low magic and society stuff, pfffft.
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And I've gotta ask. What was up with Bycatch?
The ongoing moral compass/judgement of the group. She was actually a fisherman's daughter, relatively simple and grounded, with strong ideas on right and wrong. She wound up leaving that group midway through the campaign because they'd started their slip towards massive evil and wound up killing the Scelesti PC in the epilogue.
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Originally Posted by
Tiki Snakes
Spitfire visits ponyville and finds that even her team's greatest fan Rainbow Dash has a pet to keep her company these days.
Envious of the fun and companionship she sees amongst the Ponies of Ponyville and their faithful pets, she gives in to temptation when she meets a pursuasive pair of travelling Sales- Ponies on the road back to Canterlot, but will her exotic new best-friend be more trouble than she's worth?
I'm not sure exactly what kind of ship that is, but it seems to be watertight to me and handles well enough in the water.
... not gonna touch that one on a PG-13 forum.
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Originally Posted by
Gamerlord
One... Seth is once again overreacting.
Two... somepony else point out the TERRIBLE mistake everypony is making there.
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Soras Teva Gee
Two... somepony else point out the TERRIBLE mistake everypony is making there.
Ehh, it is pretty funny to watch, tho.
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Soras Teva Gee
One... Seth is once again overreacting.
Two... somepony else point out the TERRIBLE mistake everypony is making there.
His name isn't actually Dr Who?
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Originally Posted by
Soras Teva Gee
One... Seth is once again overreacting.
Two... somepony else point out the TERRIBLE mistake everypony is making there.
I'm pretty sure this isn't what you're thinking about, but it's driving me nuts that they keep saying copyright when names are a trademark issue.
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Originally Posted by
Chess435
Oh god, it's like the Crack Pairing thread all over again! Quick, someone program an MLP character slot machine! :smalltongue:
Oh no the Crack Pairing thread!! RUN!!!
Now seriously, If I'm supposed to be the programmer and you really want that, just help me on getting a full list of characters and an easy source of images for each and I can cook up a program tomorrow, if work is slow.
Tangentially related, I found that Command Line as the name for my OC sounds better and more in tone with Pony names than Magnus, thinking that he is of a somewhat future Equestria were computers are really common. What does Ponythread think?
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Zigg'rrauglurr
Oh no the Crack Pairing thread!! RUN!!!
Now seriosly, If I'm supposed to be the programmer and you really want that, just help me on getting a full list of characters and an easy source of images for each and I can cook up a program tomorrow, if work is slow.
*maniacal laughter*
I'll let someone else field the character list/photos, I'm willing to bet a few of the posters here have a rather expansive library.
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The MLP Wiki list of ponies gives a very complete list with names and pictures - probably too complete, since some entries are just variants on background ponies (e.g. 'Silver String' who is Lyra, but without a horn and wearing a bonnet). The table is hopefully reasonably machine-readable? There's also the characters page which is a bit more restricted.
Incidentally, you can show in a few ways that the total number of two-distinct-pony ships in a set of N ponies is N(N-1)/2. If you allow ponies to be shipped with themselves, e.g. [1], [2], that goes up to N(N+1)/2.
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Originally Posted by
Soras Teva Gee
One... Seth is once again overreacting.
Two... somepony else point out the TERRIBLE mistake everypony is making there.
Ignoring actual merchandise for the Scout's Honor of someone who was probably never a scout and is using this to sell his own merchandise?
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Originally Posted by
Anarion
I'm pretty sure this isn't what you're thinking about, but it's driving me nuts that they keep saying copyright when names are a trademark issue.
What's the difference? More specifically, how do we use them differently? I'll be honest in that it's not something that's ever come up enough for me to really notice.
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Originally Posted by
Zigg'rrauglurr
Oh no the Crack Pairing thread!! RUN!!!
Now seriously, If I'm supposed to be the programmer and you really want that, just help me on getting a full list of characters and an easy source of images for each and I can cook up a program tomorrow, if work is slow.
I'll see what I can do :smallwink:
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Tangentially related, I found that Command Line as the name for my OC sounds better and more in tone with Pony names than Magnus, thinking that he is of a somewhat future Equestria were computers are really common. What does Ponythread think?
Command line is an awesome name.
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I like this PMV.
I want to do crack pairings! SiuSxAnarion is best ship :P
What do you mean I can't crack ship other board members???
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Originally Posted by
Tiki Snakes
Finding out that the ennui and cynicism of our times is not, after all, an unavoidable unreverseable fate does kind of throw your world-view off, potentially.
It's the possibility of the triumph of sincerity over irony and that's genuinely frightening.
Can I put this in my signature?
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Originally Posted by
Zigg'rrauglurr
Now seriously, If I'm supposed to be the programmer and you really want that, just help me on getting a full list of characters and an easy source of images for each and I can cook up a program tomorrow, if work is slow.
This is a thing that totally needs to happen. For SCIENCE!
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Originally Posted by
Bryn
Incidentally, you can show in a few ways that the total number of two-distinct-pony ships in a set of
N ponies is
N(
N-1)/2. If you allow ponies to be shipped with themselves, e.g.
[1],
[2], that goes up to
N(
N+1)/2.
If the idea is to create a crackship generator, shipping more than two ponies together needs to be possible, albeit rather less likely. Also, randomised genderbending of one or more parties.
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Originally Posted by
Zigg'rrauglurr
Tangentially related, I found that Command Line as the name for my OC sounds better and more in tone with Pony names than Magnus, thinking that he is of a somewhat future Equestria were computers are really common. What does Ponythread think?
Command Line is a cool name!
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SiuiS
What's the difference? More specifically, how do we use them differently? I'll be honest in that it's not something that's ever come up enough for me to really notice.
Please note that the following is NOT legal advice, it's a theoretical discussion on the law and may not be 100% accurate. If you ever rely on this for anything other than correcting ignorant people on the Internet, you are being really really stupid (mods, please don't ban me, he totally asked first).
The difference is that they're different. Obviously that's a non-answer, but they're different in nearly every way other than the fact that people lump them all under the heading intellectual property because they deal with stuff people own that isn't tangible.
Factual Differences
Trademarks are for names, logos, and short catchphrases. White curly font text that says "Coca-Cola" on a red can is a trademark. So is the name "Coca-Cola." So is their little phrase "live positively" that they've been putting on all the billboards recently.
Copyrights are for expressive works. Books, movies, fine art, modern art, made it with macaroni in 3rd grade art, music (both compositions and recordings), and computer programs (which imo shouldn't be copyrighted, but 120+ countries disagree by treaty). Copyright also applies to sub-parts of a work such as characters and plots. The easiest example is Mickey Mouse. It's not legal to use Mickey Mouse in your own story or art without Disney's permission (other than fair use, which I'll cover in a minute).
The one major area of overlap between copyright and trademark is characters, and looking at the difference is actually fairly informative. So, we'll take Twilight Sparkle because she's best pony. Hasbro claims copyright over Twilight Sparkle and also has a trademark over Twilight Sparkle. The copyright covers the character wholistically. The copyrighted Twilight Sparkle is a purple unicorn with special skill in magic and a cutie mark to match, a studious personality, who possibly suffers from mild OCD, and who is learning lessons about friendship. Trademark, on the other hand, extends only to the character design. The trademark applies to the name "Twilight Sparkle," and to the character design: a purple unicorn with a dark blue mane and tail that have a pink and purple stripe and a tattoo on the flank with overlaid pink and white stars surrounded by 5 other white stars. I don't know, off the top of my head, how much of that you need to copy to infringe either copyright or trademark. It's probably enough to be "substantially similar" but your guess as to what that means is as good as mine.
Legal Differences
Copyright and Trademark don't come with the same set of rights. The big one, which is what annoys me so much when people mess it up, is that you don't have to enforce your copyrights, but you do have to enforce your trademarks. We'll continue sticking with best pony as an example. If Hasbro became aware of an artist making and selling pictures of Twilight Sparkle, both their trademark and copyright are being infringed. Hasbro has the right to sue over both if they want (or ask for takedowns or what have you), but if they don't take action over the copyright, it has no effect on the copyright itself. On the other hand, if they don't take action on the trademark, the trademark itself could be destroyed. Perhaps not by one artist, but one could imagine parading 100 different fan artists to a jury and explaining that no, actually Hasbro doesn't have any exclusive right to the Twilight Sparkle trademark because they let everyone use it. The only reason that fan artists are allowed to exist is that Hasbro, in an official capacity, does not know that any of them exist (and because of fair use). It's also why they had to send that request to White-Dove not to sell her stuff a while back on Deviant-Art because random fans making plushies is totally different than allowing someone to run their own business by stealing your registered trademarks.
There are other legal differences related to what kind of money you can get when you sue someone, but the requirement of protecting your trademarks while being allowed to ignore your copyright is the big one.
Fair Use
I kinda just said I'd talk about this a couple times, didn't I? Except nobody actually knows what is and isn't fair other than comparing it to stuff that has been found to be fair or not. Right now the big one seems to be whether your work is a commentary or parody of the original work, in which case it's fair, or is just trying to profit off the original work, in which case it's not fair. That's not actually the test though (Zz'dtri is incorrect when he makes the blanket statement "parody is protected speech," it would be correct if he said "usually protected"). The test is whether something is a transformative work or not, and the U.S. Supreme Court has held that parodies are transformative, at least in most cases. It also matters how much you take, what kind of work the original is (books better protected than computer programs), and whether what you're doing is hurting the original creator economically.
Copyright and trademark fair use both exist and they're similar. I don't know the differences between them, but they're not always the same.
Underlying value
Lastly, the two systems have totally different reasons for existing, which comes up every once in a while. Trademarks exist to help consumers (you may not feel this way when My Little Pony artists get cease and desist letters). Trademarks help consumers by making sure that when you see a name, logo, or catch phrase, you know it's from the real thing. It helps prevent counterfeiting and ensures high quality products. Trademark law, in theory, shouldn't give a crap about stuff if it doesn't lead to consumer confusion. The law is imperfect, however, so sometimes things that don't lead to consumer confusion end up getting messed with by trademarks anyway.
Copyright law exists to encourage artists. There's a sense that art is really good for society, but it pays badly. Protecting copyrights gives artists more ways to make money and gives a few people a chance to really hit it big (which in turn encourages a lot of starving artists to at least try). We want more people to be able to support themselves making art instead of having to go flip burgers at a restaurant, and that's why there's copyright law. There are times (such as suits against remixers) where I believe copyright law not only fails to encourage art, but actually inhibits it, but that's a symptom of an imperfect system.
Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
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Lix Lorn
His name isn't actually Dr Who?
Yes and even more to the point its he's not a Dr of anything.
