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Y'see, I halfway thought about making a FATAL character myself, but then I read this thread.
Rolling characters just sounds painful :smalleek:
Dust and his party have sacrificed their sanity so that we don't have to play FATAL, and now you people are planning to play FATAL? What's wrong with you people?! :smalleek:
I can't speak for the rest of you guys, but while this is a fun read, the novelty of how bad FATAL is wore off on me years ago. I don't think anything short of payment could convince me to roll up a character.
After some of the games I played, a 3 hour character creation process is nothing. Polish RPG scene is very weird.
It's not the length that dissuades me - I spend a minimum of that making a new character in the current systems I play, just as an artifact of being thoughtful. It's just... like... I don't have enough enjoyment out of tacky kitsch to make that fun rather than painful.
I almost spend that much time on DnD equipment selection without any of the fancy Compendiums. :smalleek:
Well, we might be able to play it here too, if we scrap all that sexual content, but that wouldn't be FATAL no more now would it ?
So I'll see if I can make a game thread on MW.
I knew a player who would spend his skill points in 3.5 that way when he made a level five character.
"Now, my next skill point... perhaps one more in jump? Or better in climb?... Give me a few minutes to think about it..."
And yes, he took a minute or two for every single point.
Frankly, 3 hours is a rather average time investment for a character of mine, at elast if you also factor in putting the major parts of the background and personality down, given a decently involved system, of course.
It's not that the mechanics of character creation are long or offensive - the system is just borked.
You can end up with negative stats; you can roll later stats that affect previously rolled stats that, in turn, affect other subsequently rolled stats; you can spend hours reconciling modifiers on a given stat only to realize it has no in-game impact at all! Worse, it's all random - it's not like you're trying to hash out your character's backstory or motivations for adventuring; you are literally spending those three hours rolling dice and paging through tables.
It's torturous!
Aging effects on stats is presented after you're likely to have already worked everything out, so you have to go back and recalculate your derived values.
Bitter? Me?
However I do find it oddly fun. Maybe I'm just a masochist.
I am both relieved and disappointed.
Edit: Why is there a delousing skill?!
So that a person can play a delouser. Like, the actuallclassoccupation. Oh, and remember, it is female only. And you get 5 AP for every person you delouse. That is only 200 people for level 2. Do that and pick another career like Bandit (although it says that female bandits are uncommon...better not delve deeper into Hall's mysoginy, not on this forum anyway) and get 1 AP for every silver piece or equivalent stolen and AP equal to half damage inflicted while ambushing things.
Wait a sec.
I thought all of the Female Only occupations were just what they were calling "it" then :smalltongue:
You know, from what I hear the character generation is completely random yes? Then isn't there probably some character generator out there? (I'll be darned if I am the first to look tough, who knows what might happen)
It COULD be fun to see what sorts of things can roll out of such an infernal device, without the need to actually read FATAL itself.
So who is brave enough to try it first, and censor his results until they can be posted here?
Here's what I got.
Spoiler---------------------------F.A.T.A.L. Character------------------------------------
Copyright (c) 2000-2003 Fatal Games. All Rights Reserved.
------------------------General Character Information------------------------------
Character Name: Pak Gender: M Race: Kobold
Player Name: Occupation: Age Category: Middle Age
Homeland: Level: Religion:
Height: 52 Weight: 81 Siblings: 4 Social Class: Slave
Age: 22 Max Age: 80 Eyes: Brown Skin Color: Silvery White
Marital Status: Single Birth Rank: 3rd
Birth Status: Bastard Hair Color: Auburn w/ some gray Hair Type: Thick, wavy
Hair Length: 15 Vision: Perfect natural vision
Facial Feature: Big nostrils
Perceived as a waster of money, generous
Birthplace: Village Birthday:9/8/5078
Most Attactive Feature: Hair Most Repulsive Feature: Buttocks
Appearance:
Notes:
----------------------------Character Abilities-------------------------------------
Sub-ability Score Mods
__________________________________________________ __________________________________
PHYSIQUE: 67 -17
Physical Fitness: 75 -13 Sprint: 38
Strength: 59 -25 Damage: -25% C&J: 32 Bench: 64 DL: 96
Bodily Attractiveness: 38 -38
Health: 98 0 Int/Vom: +0% All: 0 Ill. Imm.: 57
CHARISMA: 98 0
Facial: 103 3 Description: Plain
Vocal: 76 -13 Description: Normal
Kinetic: 118 9 Description: Ordinary
Rhetoric: 96 -3 Avg. Speech: 145 or 195 (50%)
DEXTERITY: 112 6
Hand-Eye Coordination: 96 -3 Finger Prec: 1/16 inch
Agility: 108 3 CA Bonus: 1 Brawl: 2 Stand: 3
Reaction Speed: 124 12 Deep Sleep Recov: 2
Enunciation: 123 12 Max Speech: 240 Casting: -8%
INTELLIGENCE: 109 6
Language: 108 3 #: 3 Vocab: Undismayed
Math: 126 12 Highest Math: Geometry
Analytical: 102 0
Spatial: 102 0 Unfamiliar Object Assembly: 200
WISDOM: 95 -3
Drive: 104 3 Hours Resting: 16
Intuition: 90 -6
Common Sense: 90 -6 Likely to: -
Reflection: 98 0 Earliest memory at: Age 3
Life Points: 11 Unconscious: 2 CA: 11
Piety Points: 4 Magic Points:
Breadth: 26 BMI: 21.1187 BMI Status: Overweight
-------------------------------------Disposition------------------------------------
Ethicality: 2 Morality: 12
You are: Unethical Immoral w/Neutral tendencies
-------------------------------------Temperament------------------------------------
Sanguine: 54 Choleric: 100 Melancholic: 27 Phlegmatic: 94
Primary Temperament: Choleric Secondary Temperament: Phlegmatic
-------------------------------------Starting Funds---------------------------------
Silver Pieces: 4
------------------------------------Mental Illnesses--------------------------------
None
--------------------------------------Allergies-------------------------------------
None
------------------------------------Rare Features-----------------------------------
Handedness: Right-handed
Foot Size: 11
Head Cicumference: 21.67
Annoyingly, it doesn't randomly generate occupation or skill points for you.
That is because you have to have certain stats and skills to be a certain class. Like 1st edition, only more so.
A butt-ugly lecherous gnome? Typical FATAL character!
Manhood length might be pushing the envelope a bit.
EDIT: Yeah, I definitely think we should leave out the sexual attributes.
So he's a generous but immoral Kobold with luscious locks of hair?
I give you the character I rolled with it:
Spoiler
------------------------General Character Information------------------------------
Character Name: Lauana Gender: F Race: Kobold
Player Name: Occupation: Age Category: Middle Age
Homeland: Level: Religion:
Height: 46 Weight: 68 Siblings: 2 Social Class: Slave
Age: 21 Max Age: 80 Eyes: Brown Skin Color: Silvery White
Marital Status: Happily Married Birth Rank: 2nd
Birth Status: Legitimate Hair Color: Auburn w/ some gray Hair Type: Thick, wavy
Hair Length: 15 Vision: Perfect natural vision
Facial Feature: Mole above mouth
Perceived as financially stable
Birthplace: Capital City Birthday:4/21/5079
Most Attactive Feature: Hair Most Repulsive Feature: Chest
Appearance:
Notes:
----------------------------Character Abilities-------------------------------------
Sub-ability Score Mods
__________________________________________________ __________________________________
PHYSIQUE: 65 -21
Physical Fitness: 90 -6 Sprint: 30
Strength: 27 -50 Damage: -50% C&J: 14 Bench: 29 DL: 43
Bodily Attractiveness: 41 -38
Health: 105 3 Int/Vom: -3% All: 0 Ill. Imm.: 58%
CHARISMA: 116 9
Facial: 108 3 Description: Plain
Vocal: 112 6 Description: Normal
Kinetic: 108 3 Description: Ordinary
Rhetoric: 136 17 Avg. Speech: 165 to 175 (50%)
DEXTERITY: 113 6
Hand-Eye Coordination: 118 9 Finger Prec: 1/32 inch
Agility: 114 6 CA Bonus: 2 Brawl: 2 Stand: 3
Reaction Speed: 90 -6 Deep Sleep Recov: 2
Enunciation: 130 14 Max Speech: 250 Casting: -10%
INTELLIGENCE: 123 12
Language: 88 -6 #: 2 Vocab: Experimental
Math: 120 9 Highest Math: Geometry
Analytical: 122 12
Spatial: 165 30 Unfamiliar Object Assembly: 3000
WISDOM: 92 -3
Drive: 77 -13 Hours Resting: 18
Intuition: 123 12
Common Sense: 82 -10 Likely to: -
Reflection: 88 -6 Earliest memory at: Age 3
Life Points: 9 Unconscious: 1 CA: 12
Piety Points: 27 Magic Points:
Breadth: 23 BMI: 22.656 BMI Status: Overweight
-------------------------------------Disposition------------------------------------
Ethicality: 2 Morality: 1
You are: Unethical Immoral
-------------------------------------Temperament------------------------------------
Sanguine: 56 Choleric: 43 Melancholic: 27 Phlegmatic: 100
Primary Temperament: Phlegmatic Secondary Temperament: Sanguine
-------------------------------------Starting Funds---------------------------------
Silver Pieces: 3
------------------------------------Mental Illnesses--------------------------------
None
--------------------------------------Allergies-------------------------------------
None
------------------------------------Rare Features-----------------------------------
Handedness: Right-handed
Foot Size: 10
Head Cicumference: 23.4064
You don't need to know anything about her womanhood.
Cut out the sexual features section, guys. This should be fairly obvious.