Recent Chapter Spoiler ahead!
SpoilerWell, as some of you are sure to know, One Piece is on a time skip, with author Eiichiro Oda taking a 4 week break.
Thoughts? Predictions?
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Recent Chapter Spoiler ahead!
SpoilerWell, as some of you are sure to know, One Piece is on a time skip, with author Eiichiro Oda taking a 4 week break.
Thoughts? Predictions?
Luffy will actually get way better, unlike a certain other shonen hero we know of.
Luffy - Learning how to use Haki under Silvers Rayleigh. Will possibly acquire another Gear.
Zoro - Training under Mihawk. New techniques, and explorations of Haki and his "demonic" asura abilities are likely. It would be funny if Perona's ghosts were used in this "spiritual" training.
Nami - Learning weather patterns on the floating island. An upgraded Clima Tact, and new navigational skills.
Usopp - Training under Hercule. New bamboo-technology gadgets are expected, as well as his simply becoming more formidable, physically.
Sanji - Learning how to use Okama Kenpo under Emporio Ivankov. New techniques are expected, as well as further increased MANLINESS.
Chopper - Learning tribal medicine. Improved Rumble Balls and medical skills expected (likely some less "traditional" medicine too, to keep up with his Blackbeard counterpart), perhaps with some improved understanding of Monster Chopper.
Robin - Working with Dragon and the revolutionaries. Likely improved connections and perhaps some skills/weapons gained from studying ancient tablets. Combat training under him is also possible.
Franky - Studying at Vegapunk's lab. Improved weapons and armour, as well as more futuristic tech, a la Bart "It's a laser!" Kuma.
Brook - Undertaking the role of a performing demon. Broadened and enhanced musical skills, perhaps with some demon-instrument (a solid gold fiddle?) to go along with it, courtesy of his summoners.
I wonder if Jinbei will be joining the crew once they reunite? After all, after the timeskip of training they should each be on a closer par with him, and the one thing they don't have is a fish man... Still, his character is quite similar to Zoro/Brook/Robin, so I don't wonder if he might be left out or this might be the final lineup of the Straw Hat Crew.
Buggy will likely become one of the new Shichibukai. I have no idea what Crocodile's up to, but it's likely awesome, especially with his ambition rekindled. Doflamingo's likely gathering forces for whatever nasty sh*t he's up to... I don't know if Gecko Moria is in his employ, or if he's going to try for the New World once more (if the latter, I expect him to show up looking for Mihawk and end up reuniting with Perona). I look forward to seeing Jewelry again, and wonder what the other Supernovas are going to get up to (especially Basil Hawkins, that guy's cool).
My bet is on Jinbei dying during the timeskip, or dramatically moments after their reunion. I somehow feel he's doomed to suffer some horrible fate.
I dilike your character predictions, but YES YES YES. That would be hilarious (Buggy I mean). Though it's highly unlikely. Daflamingo would kill him too easily, look what happened to Gecko.
As for Jimbei, nah. I think it'll e an unknown. I was actually thinking Crocodile and Jinbei for a while, but I changed my mind. If it's any introduced character, it'll be Oars Jr. (This is a joke. Sort of)I mean, "Hello!" they don't have a giant yet now do they?
Doflamingo informed the World Government that Moria suddenly vanished just before the killing stroke could be dealt. To me, this means that either Moria had an ace up his sleeve (and will be rejoining the New World race) or Doflamingo has recruited him for whatever plan he's cooking.
I don't think it was Blackbeard that got Capone - Capone was sucked into one of the many weird and exotic dangers of the New World (likely not for good) while Blackbeard had yet to re-enter it (he was trying to get a ship from the Marines in exchange for Bonney).
I think each of supernovas has an arc ahead of them - they're no redshirts. (and it's not "a la", as in this context that means "like", or "just as")
I am, depressingly, going to agree with the idea that Jinbei has an Obi-Wan fate ahead of him. Sigh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frozen Feet
Buggy already got the call to become a Shichibukai, as I recall. That's the only thing I can think of that the call might have been. As for power levels - well, he can bluff pretty well, he's lucky, and now that he's got his ambition back it's entirely possible he'll undergo another power boost - he wasn't that far off Luffy before, lack of protagonism aside.Quote:
Originally Posted by AtlanteanTroll
I'll also note that Doflamingo was backed up by a couple of Kumabots when he took on Moria. I'll also also note that Moria's "dismissal" wasn't due to power levels - it was due to the fact that he'd suffered an embarrasing defeat and lost his crew. Buggy, on the other hand, is right in the center of the world's eye, tagged as a potential future Yonkou, in charge of a whole crew of bloodthirsty former-Impel-Down inmates. Get him on-side, and you're getting a lot more than just another beatstick.
How do you mean you dislike my character predictions? For the Straw Hats? That's what they're doing. I mean, that's where we last saw them. It's canon. The only speculation is regards what abilities they'll pick up beyond the obvious (Brook getting something devil-themed, for example).
I agree with you on all the powers, as what is most likely, except for Brook. Devil themed magic? There isn't magic in One Piece, the summoners just happened to have him crash down at the same time. It's more "sci-fantasy," but even that doesn't describe it accurately.
I was thinking that Bonney could join the crew... just a thought.
I read it untill onemanga.com took all the mangas down, don't know where to read them now :smallfrown:
SpoilerI think I got to the part just after Ace's dead and the flashback, and then there were like two chapters of Luffy being depressed
There are at least 2 other major sites where you can find the serie, though we are apperently not allowed to mention them.Quote:
I read it untill onemanga.com took all the mangas down, don't know where to read them now
Well, one of them have the word fox in its name, you should be able to find that one on google.
That aside, it seems clear Blackbeard is going to be a rival and dark mirror to Luffy, where he even got a crew of the apropriate size now.
But what about Smoker, it does seem like he is trying to do the same, though so far we havent seen many potential menbers for him.
Smoker
Tashigi
Coby?
Helmeppo?
Black Cage Hina?
Jango & Fullbody?
T-Bone?
Yeah, I expect he'll be getting some more named crew members over the timeskip.
True, I realised that sounded a bit out of theme just after, and changed it to "demon instrument". Whether that's an instrument that's been fed a Devil Fruit (like Mr.4's gun) or an actual demonic instrument (like Zoro's swords).Quote:
Originally Posted by Erts
However, there certainly are things that can't easily be classed as science. Zoro's swords, Balloon from romance Dawn 2, even the Devil Fruits themselves. For the most part, I think One Piece works similarly to Exalted - everything is magic, which makes all magic quantifiable like science. They don't have to be one or the other. If you can come up with a realistic explanation for Den Den Mushi, Devil Fruits, Cursed Swords, super-Hypnosis, Haki, Rokushiki, Life Return, or a dozen other things that doesn't use the phrase "and then some magic happens", I will applaud.
Sooo...
Can someone tell me what's the appeal? This is supposedly one of the big 3, so, one of the best mangas around. And yet...
I picked this up, only to find the art absolutely horrible (ok, I guess it is skilled, just not suiting my taste), characters shallow, toilet-like humor... I just don't know. Is there something wrong with me, did I picked wrong chapters (my friend lent me one of the middle books), or is it something not for me?
I don't know, I always search for something new and unique, yet this was one of the first mangas I couldn't (literally) stomach. So, which one was it?
Ahh, i did not count Hina because she seems to pretty high in rank, and not the type who would suddenly serve under Smoker.Quote:
Smoker
Tashigi
Coby?
Helmeppo?
Black Cage Hina?
Jango & Fullbody?
T-Bone?
And i kinda think Jango and Fullbody is a bit to weak.
One Piece's biggest appeal is that it runs the whole gamut artistically. It goes from wacky toilet humor to great drama and from poor sketches to awesome scenes while making sense all the way through.
It also keeps moving, much faster usually than Naruto or Bleach. One Piece has shorter, more self-contained arcs, meaning you can effectively read a part of the story and enjoy it without knowing what happened prior or later. It hasn't stalled in any one arc, ever, unlike Bleach.
Also, unlike Naruto and Bleach, One Piece keeps much better track of its large cast. It manages to give development and importance to a much greater share of non-protagonists than many other mangas.
I can understand if it didn't appeal to you, though. The series has very high Holy **** Quotient and often raises the question "What is the author smoking?" It is very high on humor and often goes to reaaaally low places with it. Chances are you picked up one of the more comedic chapters - if you can't stomach that sort of thing, the series might not be for you. XD
1. The art definitely gets better as time goes on, and although Oda does have a few problems here and there, I think he often makes up for it by really putting his all into putting a lot of stuff in his panels;
He'll always add stuff like backgrounds, ships and all sorts of other important details that really help with the general setting;
You can obviously argue with his "style", but I feel that it, especially near the later chapters, really stands on it's own as an unique style.
2. The characters are hardly shallow, I'm not sure what chapter you read, but I generally see Oda's character templates a bit like this:
1. make the base idea behind a character extremely simple and easy to understand, they often have a power or running gag that can be summarised in a single sentence however
2. story wise he adds a lot of depth to a lot of characters, and not in the "oh look I'm conflicted and emotional boohoo"-type of way, a lot of his story arcs directly relate to the main cast and their emotions/place in the world.
One thing that makes most OP fans love the cast is that you have somewhat "shallow" first impressions of characters that are quite similar to an old cartoon show you might remember yet at the same time these characters do get affected by things that happen around them and do have their own fears, ambitions and all that.
3.The "toilet-like humour" I can't really comment on much, the humour in OP is often fairly "in your face" but hardly entirely toilet-humour, some jokes are a bit hit or miss at times, but there's a lot of humour in OP that I'd consider witty enough to stand firm above toilet-like humour.
Either way, considering the journey is a very important part of OP I think it's generally "best" to look through it from the start if you do want to get into it, I've seen people advice the "Arlong arc" (one of the earliest one) as a good summary of what One Piece is generally like/about, so if that arc doesn't fit your tastes at all, the whole of OP might not be your thing.
Hope this helps. :smallsmile:
Well, what exact chapter and story arc did you read? Like many mangas, the beginning of One Piece isn't so good, except for the Arlong Arc and the parts with Buggy in the very beginning. I suggest one piece wiking a bunch of early arcs, past Baraque Works, and really when the crew get's into the Grand Line, it really picks up for the better.
One Piece has a very unique style; it's a manga which simultaneously takes itself seriously and very seriously. It has no wangst, no "single tear falling down the face," and a very well thought out world and characters.
The fact that it's publshed in JUMP means it's big, just being their. Also, the characters. Oda has a cast of 100's all of them are unique, and all of them are likeable. He brings back the ones that are interesting in new and inventive ways.
for jewelery bonney. i think the government is probably going to use her to deage the old marines to be their prime age. imagine garp a ripe 20 year old.
on the steep end of that thought
de age the gorosei and maybe they are really uber in strength.
my current bets on the supernovas:
hawkins survives
Kid survives
capone is dead
apoo runs out the new world
Xdrake gets merged with kaidou
Urouge gets beat in new world
Law survives
straw hats.
luffy learns all three haki
zoro learns armor type
sanji i hope mantra type but probably armor type
everyone else powers up some other way.
@Iribis
art syle in One piece is hard to get by. it kinda grows on after sometime. it get very distinctive. there tons of different characters in the manga and most of them are easily recognizable just with a silouette.
it best to view the series in an absurdist view. people with weird qiurks going to weird islands and having wacky adventure that turns serious than wacky again. just look at zoro he is guy that uses three sword style 1 in each hand and one in his mouth. he pretty much explains the series. it is wacky and yet serious.
it is also internally consistant and level of detail that Oda goes through with manga is surprising. a charcter is just shown a little in a flash back in book 4. he then appear prominantly in book 56. wanted poster in east blue showed the next few villans without you knowing it. he even has all the commander's names in white beard's crew.
devil fruit powers are explained perfectly and fit with in the series existing physics. luffy is rubber man. all his attacks are consistant with a use of his stretching power from the basic gum gum pistol to gear 2. there are no ass pull techniques that thrown around in this series.
the narrative is also very good. you get a good backstory for all the characters and their motivations. I still mist up going through the arlong arc. or for Vivi in alabasta arc. (Btw favorite villian crocodile).
i also like that luffy breaks the shonen tradition of having the most hax ability or that he is the strongest in the world. no demon fox no hollow mask bankai. rubber is probably some where in the middle with the bomb fruit and the wax fruit.
No, really, they're not. I just spent three months there studying abroad. You have to go looking for Naruto and Bleach swag, but you trip over One Piece stuff. Salarymen my friends were drinking with insisted that they read One Piece. One Piece is used to advertise a whole bunch of things- the weirdest I saw was, I think, for some travel agency plastered all over the trains. That same place I saw One Piece selling 20 million had Naruto, the next biggest, selling 5 million. Still a lot, but 4x less.
When did Death Note come out? I had thought it was earlier than that, since that's when you'd expect to see all the swag
Well, that depends, I think. K-On set some sort of record for DVD sales, didn't it? And shows like Gundam have 30+ years behind them. It's tough to judge what's super-popular over in Japan, because there are a lot of different metrics- DVD sales, fans talking about them, figure sales (hell, going by that, Nanoha and Fate/Stay Night are up there).
But I'm rambling. I highly doubt Oda will change the name of the manga, but the Anime might do it. Given that they'll probably do some filler leading up to if not during the timeskip*, they should have time to see where Oda's taking the manga by the time they've got to rebrand the show. If they do change it, One Piece: New World would be my guess.
*Though I'm sure they won't do it the way Naruto did. I actually heard the reason they rebranded post-timeskip Naruto as Shippuden was because they'd lost so many fans with all the filler, and had to signal to them that they were done with the crap.
True, but I was being specific and didn't say much. I meant more Shonen in the same time frame.
One Piece doesn't do much filler as it is, or a least make up it's own arcs (in the Anime). Anyway your probably right. The Naruto manga didn't change it's name, but for some reason I really want a name change for One Piece. REALLY want it.
Never heard of it. (Assuming it's non-JUMP) Even if it isn't in JUMP it can still be a competitor, but it'll go through hell to get their.
Not to side track the thread to much. Double Arts was in Jump but was dropped. The point being being in Jump dosn't always mean your a hit. They drop plenty of manga all the time due to their exacting standards.
On One Piece though, it's easily my favorite manga. Great mythos, great...everything. I mean...really...the whole world is just amazing.
I'm not sure if they will change the characters as much as they did in Shippuden. The main cast are older than Naruto, so I don't think they will change as much over 2 years. Plus, the characters already have a great appeal, I'm not sure how it will work...
Personally, I think Jinbei is way too keen on saying how he expects/accepts/wishes to die to actually let him. I look forward to him having a long life ahead of him :smalltongue:
Other than that, mostly agree with the OP, though the fact that Sanji's food will get even better needs extra pointing out.
I liked every arc except the one with the desert kingdom and crocodile. Ok, so once we actually got to crocodile, things were interesting again, but up until that point it was so emo I just couldn't take it.
I actually stopped reading there, and didn't pick it back up until a friend of mine insisted that it got better.
One Piece is pretty much proof that everything popular isn't terrible, considering it's the best selling manga of all time.
Hard to say something bad about OP, most of the time. What I usually ignore are the flashbacks... I know, they are important for the character development, and some are good, as well, but e.g. Robin's youth? Or Brook's story? (Or most recently Ace&Ruffy) They were just so 'meh' to me. I like OP for the action and the fun, not some horrible childhood stories, sorry.
Though, I'm looking forward to what will be new after the two year skip.
Which brings to mind, for a series with such silly an upbeat exterior, One Piece must have some of the most horrifying pasts ever for some of its characters...
Honestly, I'm still not done gushing over the fact that Oda deliberately set up the running joke that no one ever died in One Piece (outside of flashbacks), just so he could sucker-punch us way down the line.
Not cool, Oda. :smallmad:
(but really amazing!)
The old guy was totally expected, but the hot head dying... that came seriously out of the left field for me.
Also, Luffy's subsequent breakdown must be one of the more realistic ones I've seen in Shounen as a whole.
So, OP is on a month long hiatus. I think it'll probably skip right ahead 2 years later without showing the specifics of the training that the SH crew until they unveil they're brand new techniques.
If I had to give OP a single flaw, it would have to be that its build up and pacing can be rather slow (Skypeia, IMHO the worst arc, was way too long), Oda himself has acknowleged this by commenting that he had to cut out parts of the Enies Lobby arc since it was too long (namely a greater expansion of Lucci's past), but I think Oda is improving on that as well, Thriller Bark quickly stepped into high gear, the same can be said for the Sabaody arc, and the Impel Down arc could only be called frenetic in its insane pace.
Not only that, OP isn't as bad with pacing as other series are *coughberserkcoughreborncough*. Although I will admit that the earlier arcs don't match up to the later ones (The Baratie arc being the second worst arc of the series, plus Don Krieg wasn't nearly as awesome as Kuro or Eneru were).
One Piece is good because of how well thought out the plot is. It can be very silly but when it comes down to it, it can be very intelligent and the world is both very consistent and believable. It is unabashedly shonen and takes pride in both the silly and serious aspects of it.
Off topic but,
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who still remembers Double Arts.
^
Don Krieg was after Captain Kuro, and was much better (IMO).
Anywho, who thinks that someone will grow a beard? I'm betting on Zoro :smallbiggrin:
really? the alabasta arc was one of my favorites. once you hit sandy island. it becomes epic. crocodile is one of the best one piece villians. there is much manipulative bastardy. and some very awesome battles.
Thriller bark and skypeia arcs both bored me. almost left the series slogging through thriller bark. Their main villians just didn't do it for me and the motivations were generic villiany.then Sabaody went up and bam! then it was epic chapter after chapter till the latest break.SpoilerSeriously? making a super zombie army (with luffy as the crown piece when it was shown that oars Jr was fodder to the marines). and enel saying i am god this islands existance is an eye sore. yeah how much more generic can you get
i rank the arcs:
Sabaody arc
Marineford arc
Impel Down arc
Alabasta arc
Arlong Arc
Water 7 arc
Skypeia Arc
other East Blue arcs
Thriller bark arc
Davy back fight arc
One of the reasons I found Ener's god complex interesting was that it was pretty darn well justified. Think of it - the man could control thunder. Build things way ahead of the world's comprehension. He was damn near immortal, and could hear the thoughts of other people.
I'm rooting for him to come back at some point. There are so many interesting directions his development could go to.
Whether Franky could grow a beard is irrelevant.
Because he could build one.
From steel wool.
...
Why am I thinking "invincible afro beard!" right now?
I don't think Ener will come back. He's on the Moon right now... So...
I think one of the overall best arcs is the last one, the Amazon-Impel-Marine Ford one. So much happening so fast.
Water 7 is another favorite of mine. Very cool characters, and finally the rest of the Straw Hats actually got to do something.
Double Arts took to long to set up, so it makes sense it was dropped. It was great though, otherwise and really should get a second chance. As for Berserk...the thing updates 2 times a year. It's pacing is because of that fact, nothing else :smallwink:
I aslo thought the Thriller Bark Arc was awful and thought it dragged to long (though I also thought Skypia was pretty crummy to)
Zolo calling Luffy out over Usopp at the end was my favorite bit. I kept sitting there thinking, "Wait, doesn't it kinda invalidate this whole since you're basically giving Luffy an ultimatum?" Favorite arc has to be Impel Down, simply for the pure awesome crazy.
As for the time skip, I think we'll get a chapter or two more of Luffy training, then go right back to them all meeting up. Luffy punches the same Celestial Dragon again, they all go roaring off, come across some bastard crew that needs to be put down, and each whips out some new technique based on what they learned. Its much more the One Piece way. Though Chopper will be taller.