I have to ask this question to everybody:
Brighthammer 40K: Great thing, or greatest thing? :smallbiggrin:
I didn't like Shinji and WH40K, yet I fell off my seat laughing when I read this.
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I have to ask this question to everybody:
Brighthammer 40K: Great thing, or greatest thing? :smallbiggrin:
I didn't like Shinji and WH40K, yet I fell off my seat laughing when I read this.
An. . .interesting thought experiment. The only real source of drama is the Tau, however. Still, interesting.
Oh, I'm a big fan of Brighthammer 40K. It's great for putting a smile on your face.
I'm just a big fan of this picture:
The link I posted above is the original, satire based Brighthammer 40K. This link takes things a bit more seriously, and thus is darker, though not much so, than the original version.
Brighthammer is so popular that it's actualy the only thing discussed in the WH40K fluff thread for months now, altough you'll be hard pressed to make them admit that.
But hey, when you're claiming that the emperium is really smart and benevolent, chaos is logic, and the Tau are the true villains, you're discussing Brighthammer.
That hugging picture made my day.
Do the Gaunts Ghosts novels, and the Ciaphas Cain novels, count as Brighthammer, or simply normal 40K with a bit less exaggeration of the Grimdark?
Now I just have a huge desire to take a Rogue Trader or Inquisitor group and throw them into a huge warpstorm which somehow leaves them stranded in Brighthammer space, then watch them squirm all session while they try and find the dark secrets behind everything.
Well, if a faction stays exactly the same when things go from GRIMDARK to NOBLEBRIGHT, you can't exactly blame anyone for turning from hero to villain, can you?
Although it's actually the Great Old Ones who are the main villains in the setting, and the Necrons and the C'tan who are the benevolent precursors of civilization.
You underestimate the willpower of fanatical zealots like me. :smallwink:
Given that Yarrick can survive having his arm ripped off by an ork warlord, and go on to kill the ork, I'd say we're still in 40K.
Big-name Commissars (like Yarrick, Gaunt, Cain) are supposed to be some of the most formidable non-Marine humans in the galaxy, after all.
Sounds like mukkin about
That's an horrible mutilation. And he fainted soon afterwards. And then he lost an eye later. And then he was captured and tortured by the orks, who however released him so he could continue to wage war against them. He's not even allowed to die.
Cain? He died peacefull and hapily with a good retirement plan. Brighthammer all the way baby!
ZeroNumerous:There was once a barren humie planet, where people were forced to work in miserable conditions to supply the imperium with minerals for useless machines of war.
The Tau arrived, stablished trade ties, and offered them advanced technology to make their lifes easier.
The spech merines came to exterminatus the whole place.
The Tau protected the population and much spech merine ass was kicked.
So good were the Taus that when the IG was sent, the comissar in charge prefered to retreat than to face them. Wich is really sayng something, compared to the siege of Vraks were they kept sending guardsmen after guardsmen to make the enemy waste ammo.
Thus yes, the Tau are WH40K good guys. Someone who can see a comissar see reason is good by my book at least.
So far we haven't, in fact, seen anything saying how Cain died.
What we do know from one of the footnotes, is that after being declared dead several times and then turning up, the Administratum put in a rule that he was to be considered alive unless they were shown irrefutable evidence to the contrary.
This means (according to the footnote) that Cain is the only guy still considered by the Admininistratum to be "on the strength" subsequent to being buried with full military honours.
So he is buried. But we don't know what happened immediately prior to his dying.
Only if you use the fanboy idea of Grimdark that doesn't make sense within 40k canon.
There are millions of Imperium civilians who live reasonably happy lives and die peacefully, there's just always a chance that something bad will happen and no real hope for their decendants.
The Tau are more like medieval Islam than Communists. Sure you can have a chance at a better life if you join them, but they're not exactly keen on letting other species just keep on living their way of life in peace.
The Tau Empire is expansionist, the Imperium isn't. That may just be because of the Imperium's resources though.
Tyranids are the real good guys of 40k. They're just following their biological imperitive while wiping out the more evil races at the same time.
recommend avoiding real-world parallels.
The Imperium is expanding and contracting continuously- crusades launched to reclaim lost territory (sometimes territory that was occupied by humans before the Imperium itself began) and sometimes new territory (alien)
and territory being lost to all the other factions at the same time as new territory is gained.
It's expansionist- its just contracting so much that its expansions rarely do more than maintain the status quo.
Notable expansions- Macharius Crusade (into old human territory) and Sabbat Worlds (into Chaos-stolen territory)
Notable losses- 13th Black Crusade, Tyrannic Wars.
People in the WH40k thread consistently disagree with a lot of what you say about WH40k and back up their claims with strong sources. On the other hand, you never back up your claims when you make them and you just ignore any argument made in response to your claims.
Your reaction to this is to claim that everyone else is stupid and deluded and that you're the only one who can see clearly. Doesn't this strike you as slightly irrational behaviour?