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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
TheMac04
Yeah, totally. When I first saw her, I imnediately thought that it was over. V was clearly male to me, and Inky was clearly female to me. Maybe I'm just weird.
He makes me think that that he's Elan-pretty more than female. Same with V.
When I see V I think Mid-Boss from Disgaea.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
Rin_Hunter
Well, I'm a guy, so I missed a lot of that interpretation, although V does strike me as a bit of a pretty boy.
I've never played Disgaea, but you're right, that does look a lot like V.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
TheMac04
Well, I'm a guy, so I missed a lot of that interpretation, although V does strike me as a bit of a pretty boy.
I've never played Disgaea, but you're right, that does look a lot like V.
I have straight(ish) male friends who can recognise when a guy is pretty. :smallbiggrin:
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I totally recommend playing Disgaea. If you have a PSP or PS3 download Afternoon of Darkness from the PSN.
It's amazingly funny.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Rin_Hunter
I have straight(ish) male friends who can recognise when a guy is pretty. :smallbiggrin:
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I totally recommend playing Disgaea. If you have a PSP or PS3 download Afternoon of Darkness from the PSN.
It's amazingly funny.
That's always been a problem for me. I have no idea what the standards for male attractiveness are.
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I know, I've heard it's quite good. I just don't have the money to buy a space station PS3.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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TheMac04
That's always been a problem for me. I have no idea what the standards for male attractiveness are.
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I know, I've heard it's quite good. I just don't have the money to buy a space station PS3.
Eh, you learn when your friends tell you. Not that I take any interest in guys.
Anyway... Looking back at Inky, I just can't see him as female, even with that ponytail going "Look, I'm either a stereotype or misdirection. DECIDE!" :smallbiggrin:
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
Rin_Hunter
Eh, you learn when your friends tell you. Not that I take any interest in guys.
Anyway... Looking back at Inky, I just can't see him as female, even with that ponytail going "Look, I'm either a stereotype or misdirection. DECIDE!" :smallbiggrin:
Awesome.
I think the weirdest thing about it is that V's ponytail makes him look even more masculine to me, but Inky's makes her look even more feminine. Eh, maybe it's just my middle-class American mind sub-consciously making heterosexualism a default in my mind. Or maybe I'm looking too deep into it.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
TheMac04
Awesome.
I think the weirdest thing about it is that V's ponytail makes him look even more masculine to me, but Inky's makes her look even more feminine. Eh, maybe it's just my middle-class American mind sub-consciously making heterosexualism a default in my mind. Or maybe I'm looking too deep into it.
Nah, lots of things effect judgement, and that's basically what this thread shows. Your background can effect it as well as the influence of others.
And what do you mean by awesome?
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Rin_Hunter
Nah, lots of things effect judgement, and that's basically what this thread shows. Your background can effect it as well as the influence of others.
And what do you mean by awesome?
I think this thread could actually be used for a very interesting case study on how gender roles and assumptions can affect society. Or something like that.
I haven't decided yet.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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TheMac04
I think this thread could actually be used for a very interesting case study on how gender roles and assumptions can affect society. Or something like that.
I haven't decided yet.
It's entirely likely.
And you have severely confused me.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
Rin_Hunter
It's entirely likely.
And you have severely confused me.
I have a knack for that.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
TheMac04
I have a knack for that.
Good to know... :smallconfused:
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Rin_Hunter
Good to know... :smallconfused:
It's okay. I stopped trying to make sense in Kindergarten when i jumped out of that tree house.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
Rin_Hunter
I can name at least 3 guys I know that wear dressed, deary. And that's called a "robe" that V wears. :smallbiggrin:
Scroll back just a little bit further, read the last few posts I made, and see if you can tell whether the one you quoted was meant to be taken seriously or not.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
I personally believe that V is male. :smallsmile:
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
Nimrod's Son
Scroll back just a little bit further, read the last few posts I made, and see if you can tell whether the one you quoted was meant to be taken seriously or not.
With the way this board is, sometimes it's hard to tell.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
TheMac04
With the way this board is, sometimes it's hard to tell.
Even when I just said I have no opinion either way, just a few posts back, and then said "I think V is a woman because he wears a dress" when told to get back on topic?
Seriously?
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Nimrod's Son
Even when I just said I have no opinion either way, just a few posts back, and then said "I think V is a woman because he wears a dress" when told to get back on topic?
Seriously?
:smallsigh:
What can I say, people are crazy.
See here's the thing about this board. Because the restrictions on politeness are much more regimented than they are on most boards, it has an interesting effect on the social dynamic. When someone gets upset here, they can't just let loose and start flaming, they have to be more creative. So the boards here are drenched in sarcasm. It makes certain people come off as funny and charming, and others come off as just pretentious. This depends entirely on how good they are at keeping their anger under control, and I've seen many people use very, very direct terms to tell people that they are wrong. And while they don't actually say anything cruel, you can read in their tone that they want to be. So people are cautious about who's being serious here.
Or maybe I'm just an idiot.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
TheMac04
It makes certain people come off as funny and charming, and others come off as just pretentious.
Personally I aim for all three, but I'll settle for any two.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Nimrod's Son
Personally I aim for all three, but I'll settle for any two.
Nah, you're not pretentious. I've seen people here who are though. Overall, the regulations make the board better, but it does turn the ocassional person into an even bigger jerk.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
Hmm..
it says that V and her/his mate adopted their kids. maybe their gay/lez.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
I will always think that V is Female unless someone can give me some good proof otherwise.:sigh:
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
Nimrod's Son
Scroll back just a little bit further, read the last few posts I made, and see if you can tell whether the one you quoted was meant to be taken seriously or not.
Sorry about that~
My head has been on backwards for a few days because I'm not sleeping properly.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
Laeranu
I will always think that V is Female unless someone can give me some good proof otherwise.:sigh:
There will never be proof for either side. It's a perception thing.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
i dont know why do you keep argueing about it, shklee has no gender! even shkler children are adopted!
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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super dark33
i dont know why do you keep argueing about it, shklee has no gender! even shkler children are adopted!
So are you suggesting that elves are a genderless race or that just V and Inky are genderless?
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
TheMac04
So are you suggesting that elves are a genderless race or that just V and Inky are genderless?
There's evidence against that here because haley's intellect is a female elf, not ambigous at all.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
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Originally Posted by
Marnath
There's evidence against that
here because haley's intellect is a female elf, not ambigous at all.
I'd say that that doesn't count, since that's a figment of her imagination, but Lirian is obviously female.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
I simply always assumed the V was male because there have always been jokes about male elves looking female. A joke about a female elf looking male isn't quite as... funny? Well known?
I just always assumed V's gender thing was a one-shot joke that became a running gag.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
Well, I suppose the joke might work both ways in the sense that a female elf would be less "curvy" than a human and might come across as boyish or at least similar enough to the slender male elves to make it hard to tell.
I just figured V was female since Haley chose to share a room with V that time rather than any of the guys. Unfortunately even though that's the strongest indicator of V's gender in the whole comic it's still not definitive since it could just mean Haley only thinks V is female or that she didn't want everyone to be too crowded and roomed with V because she knew V wouldn't leer at her or make sexist remarks even if V was male.
Truly the skill of gender ambiguity in this comic is diabolical.
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Re: V's Gender Debate IV [Official]
Well, I just assumed V was male from the beginning because he has a masculine sounding name, and he wasn't drawn to look female as Haley was. And I honestly didn't put too much thought into it beyond that.
Plus, in one of the earlier strips before the ambiguity became a running gag, Roy referred to Varsuvious as "V-man". That makes me think that V was always a male in Rich's mind, and he didn't start playing up the ambiguity until later.