Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
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MLai
Blame the internet.
Damn you, internet.
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
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Triscuitable
Damn you, internet.
hey whoa that's a personal attack! The internet could flag that post and have you banned!
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
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shadow_archmagi
hey whoa that's a personal attack! The internet could flag that post and have you banned!
Should I edit all mentions of the internet from my post? :smalleek: This could be bad! Don't tell the mods!
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
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Tavar
Carbon compounds =/= organic compounds and processes.
Yes it does. The whole POINT of organic chemistry is the way carbon acts in various compounds.
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
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jaybird
Yes it does. The whole POINT of organic chemistry is the way carbon acts in various compounds.
Not all Carbon Compounds are Organic compounds though. And, possibly more important, not all aspects of dealing with the Organic compounds are themselves organic processes: see the creation of Carbon Nanotubes, or other such things.
I've taken Organic Chemistry, and just because a molecule has carbon in it does not mean biological processes made it.
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
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Tavar
Not all Carbon Compounds are Organic compounds though. And, possibly more important, not all aspects of dealing with the Organic compounds are themselves organic processes: see the creation of Carbon Nanotubes, or other such things.
I've taken Organic Chemistry, and just because a molecule has carbon in it does not mean biological processes made it.
Heck I'd say this is should be especially so with various forms of carbon.
At the risk of being overly broad organisms are big mixing bowls of chemicals. You throw whatever into the mix, stirr, and wait for the reaction. That's I dare say is why you can have some very complex products in organic systems, the chemical reaction has been cascading for a couple of billion years now.
Which of course when talking about only one ingredient poses a huge problem. Put two lumps of coal in a bowl and what happens? Broadly speaking nothing.
A diamond isn't all that chemically complex, its all one element. It however only occurs when there are certain pressures and heat, only found naturally deep within the Earth or at the site of major explosions like meteor impacts. And our methods of making diamonds replicate this.
(I can accept a little play in this, but its still a huge hurtle that blithe statements relying on underfined methods are totally ignoring. This isn't just not known to be possible but having good reason to suspect something isn't)
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
This thread got so derailed that the derail got derailed. :smalltongue:
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
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Chess435
This thread got so derailed that the derail got derailed. :smalltongue:
Yo dawg, I heard you like off-topic threads...
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
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Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
Guns for example are a "dead" technology as of about fifty years ago, the laws of physics leave them nowhere to go. - soras
Last time i checked we were still using them ...
:smallsmile:
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
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Peacemoon
Guns for example are a "dead" technology as of about fifty years ago, the laws of physics leave them nowhere to go. - soras
Last time i checked we were still using them ...
:smallsmile:
Ballistics hasn't improved one bit in the last 100 years since the advent of full power centre-fire smokeless cartridges, the only thing we've done since then is moved to a smaller intermediate calibre, which happened mostly to reduce weight of ammo and get better armor penetration. Chambers/actions themselves haven't improved much (except for a few handguns) since the 60's - we're still using M-16/AR-15 derivatives, and much of that was the paradigm shift from SMG for CQC and rifle for range to a universal assault rifle; and slightly better manufacturing technology. We could make fully automatic guns as far back as WWI, they were just really big and not very portable. While there were some improvements after the 60's, all of them were incremental and evolutionary, not revolutionary the same way a magazine or a cartridge were.
Most of the current development are things like laser pointers and mildot sights, and are a result of completely non-related technologies.
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There have been other innovations, but they're currently very experimental or there were significant design flaws that effectively made the technology non-viable.
Gyrojet ammunition was found not to have any significant benefits for its drawbacks, and caseless ammunition was pretty much the same.
I know some weapon systems are messing about with electrically triggered munitions (the Metal Storm system comes to mind), but in general I agree that there's not much more for chemically driven firearms to develop, which is a different issue to them being the currently most effective personal weapon available.
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
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Triscuitable
You do realize that this is a multiplayer gametype right?
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
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You do realize that this is a multiplayer gametype right?
You do realize that post is over two months old, right? :smalltongue:
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
Just saying i have these discussions with my friend, didn't read the entire posts but the covenant Carriers are made to glass entire planets, you even see in one of the Halo games the intense beam shooting straight through a UNSC Ship, a Shield Tower and still leaving a large crater in the planet, so if one of these were to get above one of the opposing ships it'd cause collateral damage to that ship, and if the planet didn't expect them the carriers could indefinatly if they knew what they were against effectively wipe the planets surface, not to mention the reproductive rate of the Grunt (100 grunts can breed 10,000 more in a short period time) who also managed to stand their own against their own force, so yeah Warhammer owns gun combat but the Sangheli ships are built for the most unlikely odds (Halo 3 around 5 Elite ships vs 100 Brute ships, Elite ships tore their numbers down)
Re: The Covenant (Halo) vs The Grand Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k)
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