Yeah, but I might be lying.
Also, that happens when I try to self quote too. No idea why.
Edit: I checked and it's just that post. Weird.
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Okay. So I'm going to throw out what happened but I. An see where I might have screwed myself.
Avatar Vecna messaged me with a "I scried you, you came up town." We talked strategy and I claimed to them. (Those of you who aren't paying attention, I claimed contingency planner.)
We discussed a plan where I messaged people claiming to have scried them and try to get them to claim. Since I had the accountant on my side, the idea was I message someone and they wouldn't suspect I wasn't the accountant. It seemed like a good idea to try to make up for Oblivion not have shared their Network as proposed. I pitched it and asked for the experienced opinion. From the sounds of things, AV had basically already started the same plan. If they are the accountant, I figured my advantage was that if I claimed to scry a wolf, they would target me instead of the true accountant and we still might get the info we needed.
Well that plan is gone and I don't know what to make of AV. As far as I see it is either wolf or seer. And the other contingency planner is clearly a wolf but you guys have no reason to believe me right now. That said my death will prove it.
So here is my plan. I told AV that I wanted my death to be worth something this time around, as last time I was night killed by town before I could be useful. Doesn't seem there is much point in convincing you not to vote for me because the only way to test me versus he other is to kill me or the other. I'm the primary target right now sogac3. But tonight... Id bet the wolves target AV. Hopefully that gives us more answers than not but if they survive through the night, I would be even more suspicious than I am now. That said if I get lynched tonight, let's use my vote tomorrow to kill the other contingency claim.
Is there a particular reason anyone should claim to you now, rather than claiming to you or Xihirli after the day is over and your claim has been proven one way or the other?
For that matter, is it possible that Xihirli is a wolf?
To the seer:
- If you didn't scry Xihirli last night:
- If you scried a town, tell them so and ask them to tell us so we know if Xihirli is lying.
- If you scried a wolf, just tell us, your death is worth us knowing if Xihirli is lying and also lynching a wolf.
- If you did scry Xihirli last night, ignore the above and don't say anything publicly because wolves.
I suppose that doesn't eliminate the scenario where the seer really did scry Xihirli last night and Xihirli is the Long-Term Plant, though, but that seems unlikely.
That's not gonna help you, Elenna. The Seer scried me last night.
I trust AvatarVecna's plan. It's less work for me, and it should give us some very valuable information regardless of their alignment.
Nope. Following the rules to the letter, doing otherwise would be cheating. My post will be one player's name, coding to indicate the color red, and possibly some extra hidden letters of the qwerty row to fill out the bare minimum necessary to post.
Of course, just because that's all I type doesn't mean that's the only information communicated.
So... reply title?
Wait... Is AV the other claim to contingency?
Indeed. :smallwink:
I've claimed seer to everybody privately, and Contingency Planner to everyone publicly. And the difference between gac3 and I is that one us is playing like dying doesn't matter, and the other hasn't been.Quote:
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Yes. Among her other claims.
I'm still voting for me. Ride together, die together! But it seems everybody else is being silly and thinking things through instead of killing me and letting my corpse speak for itself. :smalltongue:
Well then. I planned to self vote because I missed that claim somehow. I thought the other one was still only known to a couple people. AvatarVecana you are my ride or die.
If the town picks wrong odds are the other will be gone tomorrow.
Hell yeah, this guy gets it! :smallbiggrin:
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The last bit is one of my theories, yeah. Fortunately, it's easier to form theories the more information I have on who's claiming what.
Of course, here's something interesting: now I've got two unclaimed roles, and two people who haven't claimed. And there's eight people who have claimed four roles between them - each role claimed by two people. Optimistically, I can hope the remaining two players and roles match up, and that the duplicate claims are all "one villager, one wolf", but realistically...I can't hope to be that lucky. But if the remaining two people claim, even if they're lies, that has every living player putting their money where their mouth is.
Why claim now instead of tonight? Mostly cuz I'm impatient, but also cuz it makes it easier for me to set things up today on the off-chance the wagon swings really wildly at the last second and I don't end up getting to share all my info with my friend.
It is impossible that I am a wolf.
IMPOSSIBLE.
I've been thinking of this the wrong way. I've been thinking it goes:
Day: vote out a double
Night: Wolves kill
Day: vote out a new double or the surviving from the last pair.
I forgot the system admin is still around. Assuming they aren't a double, it goes this way.
Day: Vote out a double
Night: System admin kills the surviving if they are the wolf or starts on a new double while the wolves try to kill the system admin.
Day 2: start a new double
If people are lucky this could be settled by night 3 if the system admin survives that long and everyone chooses the right double each time it happens.
Indeed. All the more reason for people to finish claiming to me now, that way we can get everything out in the open before anything else happens.
...but alternatively...I'm bored! Time to stir the pot and post most of the claims I've gotten!
Player Has Claimed To Me AvatarVecna Contingency Planner Caerulea Retaliator Elenna flat_footed Archivist flyinglemur gac3 Contingency Planner Grek Proxy JeenLeen Retaliator kgato503 Experimental Coder oblivionkeeper7 CEO's Child PartyOfRouges The Outsider IT Worker Unavenger IT Worker Xihirli Code Thief YoshiCline Proxy
Discuss~
Well,JeenLeenis a wolf again. Should have seen it coming.
My instinct is to switch my vote to Unavenger. At present, however, I'll keep it where is. Make no mistake, though: I am the only one here with the l33t hax0r skills to work in IT.
.... Is that smart.... Doesn't this help narrow down targets for the wolves to take out the system admin? If they get the system admin or if the system admin is just one of the inactive players, this process can stretch on extra long. Plus giving the wolves heads up about double ciaims means they can avoid targeting those people. If they were still in the dark, then they might have accidentally killed a double, there by outing themselves.
Edit: Unless this is a wine in front of me thing and the people in your network know that that table isn't legit... Interesting... Now I'm confused.
What's wrong with an extra-long game? The longer the game goes, the more time it gives town to get its act together. Honestly the vig role is one of the more damaging ones there can be in a game - the damage an unnetworked vig can do was on full display last game. Particularly with this game starting kinda small, I'd prefer taking my sweet time.
Not that it's going to matter for you, mind. The game is going to be just as short for you either way. :smallwink:
There's more information to come, after I die. My thoughts and observations beyond the direct claims, a decent timeline of events that's lead me to my FoS conclusions...
...but we'll see how things play out today, yes? Already, just posting that list has given me another couple drops of information.
I guess AvatarVecna really is town? I mean this doesn't seem like the best idea, but I don't see why a Wolf would post the whole thing publically instead of just sending it to their Wolf buddies in private and claiming they did the thing gac3 said with the double claims. Unless it's a huge WIFOM ploy and AV is bussing gac3 to set herself up as the town whip? But then unless the scum list is AvatarVecna, gac3, Xihirli, kgato503 (and while technically possible, that doesn't seem likely given they all voted for one another day one, unless that's MORE WIFOM??) someone would have posted contradicting this list. So yeah. Lynch gac3, I guess.
It's definitely the best way to help take out the masquerading wolves. System admin can finish thelying sack ofAvatar Vecna.