I think that would be fine, and it would buy Kuulvheysoon some time. He(?) hasn't been online since 6/13, which was last Tuesday. I imagine he's still slogging through real life.
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I think that would be fine, and it would buy Kuulvheysoon some time. He(?) hasn't been online since 6/13, which was last Tuesday. I imagine he's still slogging through real life.
So if someone wants to send me disputes, please do it.
So, um, bump?
Disputes!
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Originally Posted by BELOVEDXKESTRELXGBPRIME
Since the other judge is taken so long, I'd like to ask if anyone could set in to judge.Then when/if Kuulvheysoon appears, we'll got four judgements. :smallsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by CHILLXKESTREL
Human was expected entry to the secret ingredient because of the feat-tax imposed. With 3 of the most useless feats in the game required for entry, it's very tempting to take human or feat-halfling just to lessen the pain. Ranger 3 was also very much expected for the same reason. But what set Justice apart from Beloved and Chill was the flavor of the build - I use my scoring on originality to indicate whether I like the overall story and idea behind a build in addition to how unexpected it is. Justice had flavor text that perfectly suited his build, he took a prestige class that added to the theme of 'lawyer-vigilante' and he made the entire concept WORK. I stand by my scores.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disputes
Hmm, yes. You're absolutely correct that you can take the Draconic Aura feat (I was mis-remembering, it's one of the very few feats in dragon magic that you can take without either dragonblooded or sorceror levels). As for taking Vigor as a draconic aura via feat, the text is actually rather unclear. You're correct that it never says you can't, but if you read through the entire text there are several references to 'the text below', indicating that the aura to be chosen should be chosen from the list on page 87 of Dragon Magic. In all honesty, as a GM you'd probably be able to argue me around to accepting one of the Dragon Shaman auras instead, but it's definitely questionable. I'll give you +.25 in Power, Elegance and UoSI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disputes
In truth, the deduction from not taking that last level is pretty minor, and I'm aware that LA buyoff would let you get it. For this build, however, Ghostwalker is only an average choice of prestige class - you could have done better in a number of ways. That's the main reason you only got an average UoSI score. No change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disputes
When I first looked at your build, it looked like a one-trick pony with an inherent rules flaw, and far too much overlap between the ghost template and the secret ingredient. Going back over it, I can see a lot of versatility in that one-trick - mostly thanks to MotUH. Also, the whole 'I can dodge through walls' trick really only works once (afterwards, your enemies will hold their actions until you're visible, which you'll have to be to get line-of-effect on them for TK) - which means that by the time you get your painful reckoning bonus, your strongest defensive tactis has already been used - or worse, if you get a reputation for using that trick then your enemies may anticipate it before you even get to use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disputes
The character has a lot of potential in a hit-and-run style of fight, but doesn't play well with others, and still has to survive until ECL 8 or so just to be viable - even with d12 HD, a single solid hit can END you, since just going to 0 HP is enough to kill you, and that d20 roll for rejuvenation is just too random, with no way to bring you back until much higher level.
Overall, I think you're right about your power level - you've got a reasonable fighting style. And applying painful reckoning via TK is actually pretty clever. Power: +1, UoSI: +.5
Updated scores:
Chill: 11
The Beloved: 13.75
I noticed the optional use of LA Buyoff, but I saw that it was used in the context of EITHER finishing off the Special Ingredient OR buying a 6th level of Duskblade. Had the option been listed as solely allowing the 10th level of Ghostwalker, I would have scored it full points. But since it's listed as an option that merely gives the option... the quarter point reduction stands in my opinion.Quote:
Gbprime & Kestrel404—it is worth noting that, if LA buyoff is allowed, The Beloved has the option of finishing the secret ingredient. This information was included in my Adaptation/Additional Cheese section. Please consider reducing or eliminating your scoring penalties for not completing the Secret Ingredient.
No change to score.
Are we still waiting for our last judge, or...?
I'd just hate to see this thing die out due to unfortunate circumstance.
I would volunteer to be an extra judge myself, but I'm not really sure my op-skills are good enough to effectively judge a comp like this...
If we are looking for a new chairman for the next comp(s), I'm happy to volunteer - although I think Private-Prinny has already done so?
I do have a copy of Sword and Fist, but I'm leery of the time investment, since I'm not sure how much I'll be able and willing to spare over the next couple weeks.
I can do it if we get desperate, but I'd rather not. I, too, am unwilling to see the contest just die, though.
I PMed Kuulvheysoon to see if he can still judge, since he just logged onto the site on Saturday. We'll see what he says, but keep in mind that we CAN have only two judges--in fact, the competition started that way.
IMO, if the last judge drops out we should go with two. I'm as unbiased as possible, having basically sat this round out. I haven't read the entries and don't even know who is in the lead.
Reveal will be on this Friday, not a day before or after, with a third judge or not.
Hooray for assertiveness!
A little problem to communicate with Shin. I'm waiting for him to send me the names.
Any word, Jumilk? Or, barring that, any updates on the next one, Private-Prinny?
We could just have everyone who submitted builds identify themselves and their build in-thread. (One of them is mine.) Right now I'm just looking to put some nails in this so the next one can get rolling.
Honestly, that sounds like a good plan to me. I doubt TS could get to his PMs and I doubt even more that he'll remember everything off the top of his head, so why doesn't everybody who submitted a build just post which one was theirs?
Then maybe we can get a bit of closure on this one.
Yeah whatever, let's move on. Chill was mine. Apologies again for not taking the time to write some fluff (honestly I would have but I was late enough as it were) and thank you to both judges for their insights in the build! :smallsmile:
Well, if we're going with the self-reveal, my submission was Violet. I'd be interested to know if anyone has ever tried to combine totemist with soulbow before.
In the interest of moving on full disclosure, I submitted Harv and Slave.
I'm going to start up the next round. There are a couple of rule changes, which I will sum up in a second post.
I submitted Justice. He was an attempt to see if good fluff could make up for my less-than-brilliant optimisation skills - and it seemed to work!
Yay! I've always thought about doing a variant of the Iron Chef competitions in which non-traditional archetypes were enforced. It would be a sixth level competition and instead of the secret ingredient being a prestige class, it would be something vague like 'cowboy, ninja, samurai, gladiator, ect..."
Would people be interested in something like that?
I would Zonugal.