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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: Thread of the Fool
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Originally Posted by
Laser Frog
Thanks for the welcomes, everyone!
Hey now...leave me to decorate that room and it would be a far tackier place. :smallamused: I'll take you up on that offer, though. (Although to be honest, I didn't even know we HAD rooms around here :smallconfused: )
Hehe, I use "romantic" in the loosest sense. I've been told I'm a rather stodgy person, but at least I can be a little crazier on the internet. And believe me, I've been known to do just that.
Tea, you say? I'm quite a tea enthusiast. Right now I'm drinking a mix of jasmine pearl and peach herbal tea, and it's quite good. It cost me an arm and a leg, but it was worth it.
A disparity between romantic and sexual orientation in non-asexual people is something I can't really understand (especially from personal experience, obviously), but I know it is possible. I just have to wonder how common it is without people realizing it.
You know like my welcome? :smallfrown: It's because I'm a nerd/white/British cigarette/choir kid/Hispanic(pssh only half so by blood and hip swivel aptitude)/slightly perfectionist isn't it? *runs off crying*
-why do the people not like me? Is it because I'm a horrible person? I know I am. Am I too offensive? I try my best not to be. Is it because I'm a freak? I'm normal I swear!
Oh I'm pathetic when I get depressed, thank God it's only lasted for three hours at a time before I'm back to my happy, flamboyant, inuendo cracking self, and that I never contemplate suicide.
Well anyways so I Have found myself having sexuality issues for about ten minutes a day on average recently. It's not who I am, just things like, why can't I just be normal and like boobs? Things would be so much simpler! But as if that would solve anything. I don't live in the most conservative of houses, but the pressure to conform is decently high
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: Thread of the Fool
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Originally Posted by
supernerd
You know like my welcome? :smallfrown: It's because I'm a nerd/white/British cigarette/choir kid/Hispanic(pssh only half so by blood and hip swivel aptitude)/slightly perfectionist isn't it? *runs off crying*
-why do the people not like me? Is it because I'm a horrible person? I know I am. Am I too offensive? I try my best not to be. Is it because I'm a freak? I'm normal I swear!
Oh I'm pathetic when I get depressed, thank God it's only lasted for three hours at a time before I'm back to my happy, flamboyant, inuendo cracking self, and that I never contemplate suicide.
Well anyways so I Have found myself having sexuality issues for about ten minutes a day on average recently. It's not who I am, just things like, why can't I just be normal and like boobs? Things would be so much simpler! But as if that would solve anything. I don't live in the most conservative of houses, but the pressure to conform is decently high
So sorry, Supernerd! I assure you I have nothing against you, and I fit almost all the same descriptions you listed (assuming "British cigarette" is the result of some kind of language filter?). I must have accidentally skipped yours when I was copying/quoting other peoples' replies. I apologize if I upset you too badly.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: Thread of the Fool
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Originally Posted by
Laser Frog
Yay, hugs! They're much better in internet form, IMO.
And labels? :smallfrown: Hoping I didn't say anything touchy here. If so, I apologize.
No, certainly not! In fact when I read your first post and you mentioned "that it's very inclusive and there was really no need to describe how I fit into the whole LGBTAetc," I went angrily to the first post to make sure nobody had written anything proscribing descriptive introductions.
Be welcome, and discourse your inclinations as much as you like good sir. I, for one, will be standing right here, ready to harass serious discussion with crude innuendos and attempts at empathy as graceful as a featherless baby bird's first steps outside the nest.
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Originally Posted by
supernerd
You know like my welcome? :smallfrown: It's because I'm a nerd/white/British cigarette/choir kid/Hispanic(pssh only half so by blood and hip swivel aptitude)/slightly perfectionist isn't it? *runs off crying*
-why do the people not like me? Is it because I'm a horrible person? I know I am. Am I too offensive? I try my best not to be. Is it because I'm a freak? I'm normal I swear!
Oh I'm pathetic when I get depressed, thank God it's only lasted for three hours at a time before I'm back to my happy, flamboyant, inuendo cracking self, and that I never contemplate suicide.
Well anyways so I Have found myself having sexuality issues for about ten minutes a day on average recently. It's not who I am, just things like, why can't I just be normal and like boobs? Things would be so much simpler! But as if that would solve anything. I don't live in the most conservative of houses, but the pressure to conform is decently high
;______;
I crave your bright flames like Morgoth coveted the silmarils.
Don't change.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: Thread of the Fool
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Originally Posted by
Laser Frog
So sorry, Supernerd! I assure you I have nothing against you, and I fit almost all the same descriptions you listed (assuming "British cigarette" is the result of some kind of language filter?). I must have accidentally skipped yours when I was copying/quoting other peoples' replies. I apologize if I upset you too badly.
Dude it's fine. I was using mild disappointment to springboard into some of the more serious issues I face, but I'm not taking medication and I don't go to a therapist(or the rapist <=look an innuendo, I'm me again!), it would take away my "glow" as one of my Pakistani friends identifies it.
But it doesn't help that a few months after I came out in a cheating way, put a post-it with like a paragraph on the door as I walked out and then left, my father tells me in an extended, not quite a conversation, so I'll call it an interactive lecture, that basically the first things my mother thought were that she had failed as a parent and that my father would divorce her. Of course neither were nor are nor will be true, but still...
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22
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Originally Posted by
Qaera
If you keep complimenting me, I might need to get your number, if my wife Lena and Master Shiro let me :P
~ ♅
:smallwink:
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Originally Posted by
Laser Frog
And labels? :smallfrown: Hoping I didn't say anything touchy here. If so, I apologize.
I've never seen much wrong with labels. It's a lot faster to read one than it is to sort through all of the box's contents, at any rate. :Shrug:
'Course, a lot of people take them way too seriously and confuse them for definitions... :/
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Originally Posted by
supernerd
You know like my welcome? :smallfrown: It's because I'm a nerd/white/British cigarette/choir kid/Hispanic(pssh only half so by blood and hip swivel aptitude)/slightly perfectionist isn't it? *runs off crying*
-why do the people not like me? Is it because I'm a horrible person? I know I am. Am I too offensive? I try my best not to be. Is it because I'm a freak? I'm normal I swear!
Oh I'm pathetic when I get depressed, thank God it's only lasted for three hours at a time before I'm back to my happy, flamboyant, inuendo cracking self, and that I never contemplate suicide.
Well anyways so I Have found myself having sexuality issues for about ten minutes a day on average recently. It's not who I am, just things like, why can't I just be normal and like boobs? Things would be so much simpler! But as if that would solve anything. I don't live in the most conservative of houses, but the pressure to conform is decently high
That's nothing; I'm a whole bundle of sticks! :smallcool:
Sorry, couldn't resist. *Hugs* There's not a damn thing wrong with you. Disregard anyone who says otherwise. :<
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
Oh yeah, Arachu, from the last thread -- about the nail glue -- it's for real real, not for play play. I once had like an inch of thumbnail held on purely by the stuff.
Any drug store. Check it.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: Thread of the Fool
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Originally Posted by
Kneenibble
;______;
I crave your bright flames like Morgoth coveted the silmarils.
Don't change.
Well when I'm tired I have normal person energy levels and lose my "glow." I claim that when I'm tired I don't have much energy, so I run on flamboyance, but if I got enough sleep I'd be more than happy to share!
So me and one of my friends are going to put ourselves in spray can and sell it as "Personal Space Away"
Edit: @Arachu thanks *hugs* I forgot to tell you and Heliomance what lovely women you make are.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
New thread ahoy!
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Originally Posted by pffh
Have you tried exploring the places on the internet where they have pictures and videos relevant to this? That might help you in determining what you like.
I have. And it's non helpful. Because I enjoy things that I hate watching, and I enjoy watching things that make me go huddle in a corner crying if someone tries them with me.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Originally Posted by
Kneenibble
Oh yeah, Arachu, from the last thread -- about the nail glue -- it's for real real, not for play play. I once had like an inch of thumbnail held on purely by the stuff.
Any drug store. Check it.
@_@ What is this sorcery.
(It's really too bad I don't have a car (or money, for that matter)... Maybe I should steal a couple of dollars out of the change bucket and get my sis to take me shopping? :haley:)
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Originally Posted by
supernerd
Well when I'm tired I have normal person energy levels and lose my "glow." I claim that when I'm tired I don't have much energy, so I run on flamboyance, but if I got enough sleep I'd be more than happy to share!
So me and one of my friends are going to put ourselves in spray can and sell it as "Personal Space Away"
Edit: @Arachu thanks *hugs* I forgot to tell you and Heliomance what lovely women you make are.
Could be that you power your flamboyance with some other thing (sugar, perhaps?), though I guess that'd be like saying light bulbs are coal-powered... :smallconfused: :smalltongue:
*Hugs* Thanks. All of these compliments really do mean a lot to me... I've never been called pretty before. :smallbiggrin:
Oh, and I forgot - Kneenibble's freakin' handsome. :smallwink:
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Originally Posted by
golentan
I have. And it's non helpful. Because I enjoy things that I hate watching, and I enjoy watching things that make me go huddle in a corner crying if someone tries them with me.
I think I have a thing or two like that... I can see where it wouldn't be very helpful. *Hugs*
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Originally Posted by
Laser Frog
Tea, you say? I'm quite a tea enthusiast. Right now I'm drinking a mix of jasmine pearl and peach herbal tea, and it's quite good. It cost me an arm and a leg, but it was worth it.
Tea is indeed quite wonderful. Though you're making me want to brew a cup, and it's 1:30 am, so I really oughtn't.
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Originally Posted by
Laser Frog
A disparity between romantic and sexual orientation in non-asexual people is something I can't really understand (especially from personal experience, obviously), but I know it is possible. I just have to wonder how common it is without people realizing it.
It is an interesting thought. I identify as aromantic and heterosexual, but it definitely took me some time before I even realized that that was possible. Love and sex do seem to be tied together quite tightly in a lot of people's minds.
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Originally Posted by
Arachu
Oh, and I forgot - Kneenibble's freakin' handsome. :smallwink:
Indeed. I must endeavor to ogle and flirt with him more often.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
Hello everybody!
Triscuitable, it's good you started a new thread. I was asleep anyway.
*hugs* to everyone, but especially to golentan. It's quite common to fantasize about things we'd never want to go through in RL. That's why it's a fantasy.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: Everything's fine, how are you?
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Originally Posted by
Laser Frog
I guess the proper terms would be asexual and homoromantic (leaning ever-so-slightly towards biromantic),
#totallyreadthatas "bromantic" :smallbiggrin:
Greetings and welcome, O Froggy One!
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
I thought biro-romantic myself.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
*woke up this morning feeling incredibly girly*
*has the resources to dress how she feels*
*is happy :smallredface:*
*realises that's the first time she's ever used female pronouns about herself*
*is happier*
:redface:
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
@Laser Frog: Welcome, feel at home, have an internet-hug *hugs* :smallsmile:
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Originally Posted by
Heliomance
*woke up this morning feeling incredibly girly*
*has the resources to dress how she feels*
*is happy :smallredface:*
*realises that's the first time she's ever used female pronouns about herself*
*is happier*
:redface:
That's adorable :smallbiggrin: Good for you, Heliomance.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22
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Originally Posted by
Kneenibble
Wooo! New thread! This time around I won't be so vacuous and irrelevant.
But it's always so elegantly put though....
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Originally Posted by
Heliomance
*woke up this morning feeling incredibly girly*
*has the resources to dress how she feels*
*is happy :smallredface:*
*realises that's the first time she's ever used female pronouns about herself*
*is happier*
:redface:
Good luck and many hugs!
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
Hey I've been wondering, (A) how likely are sexuals to have romantic feelings for peeps they're not sexually attracted to regardless of whether they're part of their preferred gender(s)? (assuming that they're good-looking, but just not someone's bag.)
>e.g. You hear people falling in love over letters and the internet without even knowing their sex / what they look/sound like.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
I just worked out why I feel slightly weird and uncomfortable using female pronouns about myself, and to a lesser extent hearing other people use them about me, no matter how much I'd like them to.
It doesn't feel like I have the right to them. I feel like an imposter. I can't even claim that I'm a girl who just happens to have the wrong body, because two months ago I felt male to the point where I wasn't comfortable wearing women's clothing anymore. Using and hearing "she" feels like I'm claiming to be something that I'm not, on false pretenses.
Blarg.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
I'm going to be giving a speech on LGBT rights (marraige and such). Without going into politics, anything you want me to say?
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
As an ally, I feel that the important thing is this - you do not have to be LGBT to support LGBT. You just have to be a decent human being. This is about treating them as we would like to be treated ourselves, if the roles were reversed.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Originally Posted by
Kneenibble
Wooo! New thread! This time around I won't be so vacuous and irrelevant.
I can't help myself
Why would we ever want you not to be/to do so?
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Originally Posted by
Heliomance
I just worked out why I feel slightly weird and uncomfortable using female pronouns about myself, and to a lesser extent hearing other people use them about me, no matter how much I'd like them to.
It doesn't feel like I have the right to them. I feel like an imposter. I can't even claim that I'm a girl who just happens to have the wrong body, because two months ago I felt male to the point where I wasn't comfortable wearing women's clothing anymore. Using and hearing "she" feels like I'm claiming to be something that I'm not, on false pretenses.
Blarg.
I'm not sure how to help, so... (hugs)
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Originally Posted by
Heliomance
I just worked out why I feel slightly weird and uncomfortable using female pronouns about myself, and to a lesser extent hearing other people use them about me, no matter how much I'd like them to.
It doesn't feel like I have the right to them. I feel like an imposter. I can't even claim that I'm a girl who just happens to have the wrong body, because two months ago I felt male to the point where I wasn't comfortable wearing women's clothing anymore. Using and hearing "she" feels like I'm claiming to be something that I'm not, on false pretenses.
Blarg.
Why do you care where you was two months ago? It's where you are now that matters, isn't it? Getting somewhere with your emotions may take time and require a lot of work, but it can be done.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Originally Posted by
Asta Kask
Why do you care where you was two months ago? It's where you are now that matters, isn't it? Getting somewhere with your emotions may take time and require a lot of work, but it can be done.
Because it'll likely change again. I can't say "this is who I've always been, I'm only now realising it," because I haven't. It feels like my very existence is validating the "it's just a phase" argument. How do I have the right to lay claim to female pronouns and a female identiy if in two months time I might be back to being male?
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Originally Posted by
Laser Frog
A disparity between romantic and sexual orientation in non-asexual people is something I can't really understand (especially from personal experience, obviously), but I know it is possible. I just have to wonder how common it is without people realizing it.
Hmmm... Now that you mention it, I wonder if I might be bi/pansexual and heteromantic...
*ponders*
(I'm not likely to incorporate it as part of my identity or anything (I'm quite fond of "heteroflexible" :smallwink:), but it's an interesting thing to think about)
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Originally Posted by
squidbreath
Hey I've been wondering, (A) how likely are sexuals to have romantic feelings for peeps they're not sexually attracted to regardless of whether they're part of their preferred gender(s)? (assuming that they're good-looking, but just not someone's bag.)
>e.g. You hear people falling in love over letters and the internet without even knowing their sex / what they look/sound like.
Hmmm... It's hard to describe, but for me I'd say that sexual attraction is a big part of the development of romantic feelings, but the development of romantic feelings can influence my sexual attraction.
I mean... someone I'm not immediately physically attracted to has an initial disadvantage when it comes to my being interested in them. However, if I find them really attractive non-physically, then their appearance/bodies will become more attractive to me. Does that make sense?
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Originally Posted by
Heliomance
Because it'll likely change again. I can't say "this is who I've always been, I'm only now realising it," because I haven't. It feels like my very existence is validating the "it's just a phase" argument. How do I have the right to lay claim to female pronouns and a female identiy if in two months time I might be back to being male?
Because gender identity can be fluid. And when you change back, you have a right to male clothes. Anyway, what do you mean "you don't have the right"? According to whom? Why should you care what ze says? And if you're saying it to yourself, examine that feeling, because there's a thought hiding there. And it's usually something like "With regard to this, I don't have the right to be happy." Screw that.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Originally Posted by
Heliomance
Because it'll likely change again. I can't say "this is who I've always been, I'm only now realising it," because I haven't. It feels like my very existence is validating the "it's just a phase" argument. How do I have the right to lay claim to female pronouns and a female identiy if in two months time I might be back to being male?
Because for now, you are. You've painted a portrait in your image, and just like any artist, you can paint a new coat over the parts you don't like. Life is about experiences and changes, and quite frankly, you've put a lot into this. If you feel like it's time to stop, nobody has that power but you.
I've never been able to feel like I was a man, or a woman. If I had problems, I'd make a DnD character in the spirit of who I felt I should be, if only for a short time.
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
@Helio: Maybe you're genderfluid? I know this probably sounds a bit stupid considering it is a hugely confusing matter; but maybe try to just go with how you feel at the moment and not worry too much about the rest?
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Therapist meeting tomorrow; sorta nervous...
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
I just realized I haven't given any good indication of my gender, but (almost?) everyone just assumes I'm a guy off the bat. :smallamused: Do I just give off that vibe?
I may be backtracking in this thread, but my internet conked out last night, so...
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Originally Posted by
Kneenibble
Be welcome, and discourse your inclinations as much as you like good sir. I, for one, will be standing right here, ready to harass serious discussion with crude innuendos and attempts at empathy as graceful as a featherless baby bird's first steps outside the nest.
This paragraph is so majestic and fabulous that I may cry. And it's made even better by that awesome Avatar you have. I am in awe, good sir, and I thank you.
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Originally Posted by
Arachu
I've never seen much wrong with labels. It's a lot faster to read one than it is to sort through all of the box's contents, at any rate. :Shrug:
'Course, a lot of people take them way too seriously and confuse them for definitions... :/
So true. So, so true. People are uncomfortably likely to assume a ton of things about you if you make any claim whatsoever about yourself. I've become an expert at ignoring when people do that to me, but it can still be really tiresome.
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Originally Posted by
Nix Nihila
It is an interesting thought. I identify as aromantic and heterosexual, but it definitely took me some time before I even realized that that was possible. Love and sex do seem to be tied together quite tightly in a lot of people's minds.
And that viewpoint of "love=sex=love" really bothers me. I mean, people being aware that they feel that way is all well and good, but it seems like the majority of people cannot make that distinction. Perhaps I'm just cynical. No wait, I'm definitely cynical, and this is my cynicism speaking. That explains it.
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Originally Posted by
Heliomance
#totallyreadthatas "bromantic" :smallbiggrin:
Greetings and welcome, O Froggy One!
I do enjoy a good bromance, even though my most meaningful one right now is with a guy who's grody to the max, dude. [/'80s kid] But we've been friends for years, so I'm used to it.
Maybe that's a cue that I should spell it "bi-romantic", even though that creates a rather inconsistent spelling and/or hyphen usage that may slowly drive me bonkers. :smallwink:
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Originally Posted by
Coidzor
I thought biro-romantic myself.
What does that even mean? I say if there's no definition, there totally should be one.
Now on the topic of developing an attraction to people, I've found that my physical/romantic perception of guys has changed once I get to know them, and sometimes significantly. However, it's only seemed to happen with guys I've thought were cute, but wound up disliking and gradually found repulsive. I've never thought someone was attractive after thinking they weren't attractive at first, but then getting to know them better and finding out they've got a great personality. I'm not giving up on the possibility, but again, it's never happened to date. So yes, I must be shallow without realizing the extent of it. :smalltongue:
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Re: LGBTAitP - Part 22: The Best There Is
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Originally Posted by
Astrella
@Helio: Maybe you're genderfluid? I know this probably sounds a bit stupid considering it is a hugely confusing matter; but maybe try to just go with how you feel at the moment and not worry too much about the rest?
Yeah, I already worked that one out. Most irritating of gender identities, why can't I just stick with one? I don't even mind what!
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Originally Posted by
Laser Frog
I just realized I haven't given any good indication of my gender, but (almost?) everyone just assumes I'm a guy off the bat. :smallamused: Do I just give off that vibe?
There are no girls on the Internet. Everyone is male until proven otherwise.