I don't think I would like it that much. A pony story (or game) without a real sense of hope isn't a story (or game) that I'm interested in.
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Everything I know about Dark Sun leads me to believe it'd just be another Appleoosa story, actually. Elves are replaced by the Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo etc., Halflings are replaced by Changelings that, er, survived being flung one thousand miles into the desert, and Goliaths are descendants of Big Macintosh because I'm totally going to make that joke.
Then again, I never saw the Fallout movie, so maybe I'm missing out on another reference.
Yes, I am aware that Fallout is a novel, not a movie. You don't need to point it out.
Yes, I am aware Fallout is a video game series, not a novel. I'm trying to explain how much I know about the series by being ironic.
Is anypony following Moonstuck?
SpoilerMy gosh, the plot twists and epic reveals. D:
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- Discord Is pretty much 100% Confirmed
- Luna's Abandoned Moon Colony joked about, history of Celestia and Luna Coming up
OHMYGOSHOHMYGOSHOHMYGOSHOHMYGOSH
*points to Nameless's reaction*
THIS.
SpoilerYeah, I agree that pony in the picture looked like a genderbent Shiny. That'd be a fun episode. Of course, there's already a tumblr for that.
Discord returning? Eh, hopefully they can do something new and interesting with him.
History of Luna and Celestia? Now we're talking! This is what I've been waiting for! Well, that and hearing them sing together. That'd basically be perfection.
Also Griffon Kingdom. Gods yes! Finally we can get some official material for them, instead of the general Klingon style warrior race most people tend to make them out to be.
In non-spoiler news, ARRRRG! I want to play XCOM but I can't because I'm at work. D:
wouldn't space be more of a Spelljammer setting?
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Well, if you read my post with mini-RPG system a few pages back, it would be a good way to run one. I remember one fanfic with similar idea, and it was quite good, so why not?
SpoilerYeah, I don't like Discord being back either. Not only I know a few people who will be very upset about it, I thought it was very weak character that was mostly carried by his VA. Had he been voiced by someone unknown, he would have been as liked as Gilda, IMHO.
And you know, after dumber fans reaction to Der... Ditzy voice change and Vinyl eyes I personally stopped caring for virtually every fanon idea contradicting canon. Fanon is fine when it fills holes in canon or supplements it, not when it's made up stuff contradicting canon its selfish backers still expect to win. And I just despise it when its supporters cling to non-existent "proof", including edited show screenshots to still push it down everyone's throat after canon killed it deader than dead.
Or maybe I'm just bitter after seeing just how whiny, self entitled and plainly rude/hateful (including death threats) can "fans" loudly proclaiming their 'love and tolerance' be.
SpoilerOr maybe Granny just suffers from dementia, having mistaken herself for actual founder who according to Twilight lived hundreds of years ago, and Twilight is 16-18 like both her unfinished education and words of creator suggest...
Also, rare disease? We saw over dozen ponies in as bad or worse shape than Granny, see Valentine episode in particular :smallconfused:
And I have no problems with Princesses being normal ponies, unlike all the people who made up stuff about goddesses directly contradicted by no less than four-five episodes, including very first one.
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SpoilerKing Somber? Huh ... if that really is the black thing (I'm not willing to call it an alicorn yet, 'cause we didn't exactly see any wings and he doesn't exactly look like a regular unicorn either, more like a changeling sort of thing) then I'm not sure what to think yet. I'm not ruling out that he surprises us with his awesomeness, but from what we've seen/heard so far I'm not exactly wowed. We'll have to see.
As I've said many times, if they bring back Discord I hope, hope, hope it's in a flashback. I don't care to see the Mane 6 do another confrontation with him, or for him to become some sort of silly recurring figure ... like Q. Of course, if we're getting some background on Celestia and Luna, then there's a good chance that involves Discord so flashback is probably looking likely.
As for said background ... well, I already know 90% of the fanon in my story is going to get utterly destroyed sooner or later. I gleefully write it so full of fanon it's almost bursting, so that's alright, I know what's coming for me. I also have another story idea which utterly ignores tons of existing canon about the royal sisters. I mean, what does it matter? If I want to ignore canon and make my own, who's stopping me from having fun?
More than likely, whatever canon they give us, we can twist and mangle and adapt it to fit our pre-existing fanon in any case.
What I am worried about, as always, is that they won't handle it well. That what they give us will disappoint in some way. What I kinda hope for is something walking that very fine line between too vague and too specific, something just right that satisfies our curiosity for details but leaves us free to interpret it and play with it and expand upon it. Because let's be honest, the fun of canon is our ability to make up our own stuff and come up with crazy theories, if they tell us everything then that kinda takes some of the fun out of it. But I know that's a fine line to walk, and I'm not even sure exactly where that line is, so it's a case of "when I see it" anyway.
I do hope, whatever they do, that they give us some badass Luna. If they make a flashback and show her as the weaker sibling who has to be saved by her big sister, or something lame like that, then I'm going to scream my lungs out! spikenoooo.mov And then cry in a corner like a little filly whose parents died in the snow.
Also, I totally hope that moon base thing really was a joke and nothing more. I consider "ponies on the moon" (whether there already or going there in a rocket) more or less in the same category as "humans in Equestria" as something I do not wish to see. I will cry if they go to the moon! And I'll make all the little ponies cry with me!
As for the rest, I don't have much of an opinion on griffons or Manehattan, except I'll be happy to see more of the world.
Ah, the wonders of pre-show anxiety. And here I thought I had gotten over it, but seems like it was just from a lack of hype.
On the spoiler clip:
SpoilerThe Crystal Ponies being douchebags completely relieved all the tension I had regarding them. Phew!
If anyone has a spare hour here's a the full NYC panel.
XCOM pony update
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SpoilerWell first, Applebloom is the only major casualty so far. 3 total, but the other two were nameless rookies.
Alright. so. Fluttershy, Rarity, and Gilda are all killing everything with crazy mental powers. Oddly Gilda has more psycic power than Fluttershy's epic stare.
Edit- and Captain Trixie has stopped shooting everyone in the back.
Hmm.
Well, that depends really. If adding ponies to your reference doesn't provide the impetus for hope and improvement, somethings wrong imo.
Regardless, if I recall, the Dark Sun setting is basically a fantasy post-apocalypse, with several god-kings ruling the surviving bits of a setting that has been all but destroyed. Metal has gone, the enviroment is totalled, and all the usual monsters and so-on are dead, with the gaps filled by deadlier and more exotic creatures.
The average darksun game is a case of gritty survival, but I think such campaigns can eventually lead to the toppling of the, whatever you call them. Sorcerer Kings? And potential improvement of the setting by removing their tyranny from the picture.
So, in the spirit of Fallout Equestria which I haven't read;
SpoilerYou'd have some ancient backstory probably involving Ironhoof Celestia introducing Unicorns to a more powerful form of magic(That just happens to slowly destroy the world around them) and expanding Equestrian rule across the world, driving the unwanted creatures into obscurity (And subjugating those that remained) and using these powers to sieze control of the elements and weather patterns themselves.
Eventually the Unicorns betray Ironhoof Celestia, Imprisoning her in the void. They become Alicorns themselves (Read - Sorcerer Kings) and divide the ruins of Equestria up between them. The leader of the group of Unicorn-Betrayers, in order to complete the seal on Celestia's prison, takes the transformation a step further and becomes the Draconequis (of Tyr. Replace with appropriate ponyplace).
I figure you'd have Unicorns as the Templar equivalent, Earth ponies as an oppressed underclass (somewhere between non-templar humans and Muls, used for labour, gladatioral entertainment etc), and the Pegasi as either rare survivors (hated and feared desert dwellers) or something similar.
I'm sure I could figure out some idea of what species fit what role in Dark Sun Equestria, but I'm sure you get the idea. One of Dark Sun's themes is subverting the usual roles of the races involved, so it'd all be keyed to that concept and the ruined world. Oh and everypony gets a psionic trick or two.
It could be an entertaining thing, but would require a lot of work to figure out the setting.
Alternate, mildly more depressing concept;
SpoilerThe Rajaat analogue could instead be Twilight Sparkle. She's so powerful magically because of her research, that will eventualy become "Defiling" magic, with Celestia and Luna being overthrown at some point during the ponified cleansing wars.
Edit - Uuuh, Nyaa?
Gone over the edge... but it's not my fault. The circumstances forced me to do it. My parents went to the airport, and my sister was at school, and the cat was outside, and the windows were drawn, and I had to wait for a package, and the show happened to be on at that time so I was forced to watch an episode of MLP. Something about "Cutie-Pox". I disagree with the lesson though. If apple bloom had desired unequaled magical prowess she could have wrested control of the "affliction" and gained strength, fencing prowess, psionics, etc.
Also, zecora is an apothecary for the ultramarines.
Also, some of the ponies are quite cruel to one another.
Bottom Line: The show does have a pull but I must resist because I felt like a criminal watching it.
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How about using real mules as Mul? Maybe donkeys could be dwarves, but we see them as immigrants of Ponyville.
If I was personally doing anything with the idea, I'd be trying to Dark-Sun-Ify the ponyfolk rather than directly replace the existing Darksun Races.
But otherwise, it's not a bad fit and has the benefit of pun.
Glad to hear that you got to watch an episode. Your paranoia amuses me as does the impression that despite you're best efforts you'll end up watching pony anyways.
On your episode analysis; Applebloom wouldn't have been able to harness the power. It would have kept accelerating and she would have been forced to do more and more stuff until she finally died from sheer exhaustion.
Yeah Zecora is awesome. :smallbiggrin:
I found out that the pony creator allows you to make custom poses. I didn't know that.
Also, I actually managed to produce what I feel is a pretty nice-looking pony, using the generator. I've named her Café au Lait, she'll have a brief role in next chapter of my story.
I briefly started writing a fanfic to this effect but with the actual characters in the world
SpoilerBasically my bit was that Discord was the Raajat equivalent, who drew up a circle of unicorns to throw the world into chaos through his own life-draining brand of magic. Celestia, Luna, Chrysallis, and several others were among this number, but generally thought they would be setting themselves up as rulers instead of just sending the world down into eternal chaos.
The Unicorns rebelled eventually but Luna, in a fit of madness, desired power for herself and so elevated herself into the first Alicorn, now known as the Nightmare of Equestria. The other unicorns retreated to their domains to begin their own ascensions.
Celestia began to pursue to Magic of Friendship as an alternative to Alicornhood. Crysallis neared ascension but was laid low by the other unicorn rulers and subjected herself to a ritual to become a love-sucking parasite, and so created her race of Changelings to plot the domination of Equestria.
The mane six are unknowingly part of a prophecy to wield the Elements of Harmony, relics of a lost age that can destroy the Unicorn tyrants and with hope restore Equestria.
Applejack was a Gladiator
Twilight a member of the Harmonic Alliance (Veiled Alliance)
Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy a warrior and shaman of a Pegasus tribe (Pegasi being much like Elves)
Rarity a noble psion (ascended from a dune trader family)
Pinkie Pie a bard
I didn't really think it was a bad idea, but halfway through the 2nd chapter I realized I was just writing the Prism Pentad with MLP characters.
Wow that seems... kinda specificaly not used much? I mean, at least as far back as high school I don't recall learning about en and em dashes. At all. So either the Florida education system doesn't teach it or it's not used much?
Either way, I learned a second new thing today! :)
Hey, its that useless trivia that helps me win those final rounds of "You Don't Know Jack"... well okay it doesn't. But I can pretend its useful. :smallbiggrin:
That was soooo cute... up until I saw the pony Susan and then spittaked.
That was... um... creepy.
I'd hate to be Celestia when the mail arrives...
True.
I wouldn't have known the difference, either; of course, when I was at school, computers were still something of a novelty (it wasn't until I started college that anywhere had them in any number), so as everything was pretty much hand-written, it would have been kinda hard to teach...
Does it have an equivilent to cannibal halflings? :smallbiggrin:
Okay, so Discord is confirmed on returning... but in what Capacity? If we're also getting more Luna/Celestia history perhaps that could mean Discord coming back in flashback form?
I think flashback form would be fine with me. Maybe even better-- I'd love to see the actual showdown where Celestia/Luna turn him into stone.
Good for you. Though you understand the point that your idea wouldn't work yes?
The omega symbol is also a horseshoe therefore... ponies are smurfs.Quote:
Also, zecora is an apothecary for the ultramarines.
Ponder this Initiate.
Give another episode a shot.Quote:
Also, some of the ponies are quite cruel to one another.
Bottom Line: The show does have a pull but I must resist because I felt like a criminal watching it.
I figured the way she got the disease was through desire of a talent and if she desired a particular talent at the outset she'd get it. Furthermore, since it's a magical ailment it might actually be able to grant spellcasting even to someone normally unable to do so. With powerful enough spellcasting and directing the disease towards intelligence next she'd be able to control it's output perhaps to both give exactly what she wanted as well as not have to actively use the output. Magic is an interesting force in their world.
Also, someday I'll grow up to be a real space marine.