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Originally Posted by Seerow
I say wait until you're actually grinding to 20 to move the magikarp in. Unless you like carrying around useless pokemon. Even then, wasn't Gyrados pretty crap until gen 4 since most of his attacks are special while he has a high physical?
I vote for Red Baron in the last slot for now.
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Well third gen Gyarados just needs a different move set. (Return, Earthquake, Two other moves) They aren't terrible. Just not that great, and easily overshadowed by Vapreon