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    Default Re: [Base Class- Intended teir: 2+- 3.5] Battle Monk

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziegander View Post
    This is what you said. You are now changing the goalposts, as the internets like to put it. You are changing the goalposts because you know you have no argument to defend your statement, if I may be so bold.
    As you wish. Let me be frank then.

    At first level, the ability to hit twice for half damage is much better than the ability to hit once for full. After all, at first level, the dice play a much bigger "roll" in determining whether you beat an opponent's AC. To use your example (which was incorrect), two melee fighters, one a battle monk and one a fighter, attack the same opponent. They each have +5 to hit, (18 Str and +1 BAB), and the opponent has 4 HP and 14 AC.

    The fighter has a 55% chance of killing the target. The monk has a 55% chance of killing the target, two times in a row. Damage isn't nearly as important at first level as hit chance is.

    Edit: This is why Two-Weapon Fighting exists (And requires a feat to even use, as opposed to sword and board or two-handed). In the first few levels, extra attacks will almost guarantee you to hit and a hit is pretty much guaranteed to kill. (With high enough Str)

    The monk doesn't have an off-hand, so TWF's normal -2 penalty on both attack rolls and half Str on the off-hand attack (WotC's intended balance point) do not apply. The monk is able to be twice as likely to kill as any normal warrior because he relies less on luck.
    Last edited by NeoSeraphi; 2011-07-21 at 06:40 PM.
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