Quote Originally Posted by Metahuman1 View Post
Ok, how about base 14, and requires four ranks in Bluff and Diplomacy, and two ranks in Preform? Keeps it reasonably accessible but will make it a bit harder for Cha heavy Tier 2 and higher classes like Sorcerer and Favored soul to tack on in order to load up on extra castings a day/Higher DC's/Other goodness form a Jacked up Cha?

Seem reasonable?
I don't really see any reason to try and prevent sorcerer or favored soul from it. In order to even get an extra +1 modifier, the sorcerer has to take enough levels such that they will never get 9th level spells short of epic level games or gestalt.

Not sure about the Favored Soul bit. I don't have Complete Divine.

I'd like for it to be slightly better for a Bard to take. Any possible way for me to do that? Or is it pretty good as is?