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    Default Trissociate [3.5 Base Class] (PEACH)

    This base class is now listed in the Homebrew Tier Compendium and the Base Class Compendium! Also, its the first thing to pop up when you google "Trissociate"

    For a quick and rather simplistic overview, you might want to look at/use the sample Trissocate NPC I have submitted to the NPC Playtest thread.

    Design Notes

    This is a repost as the First Version was locked. And I decided to rename it from Generalist to Trissociate. The aim was to make this approximately Tier 3 or 4 (give or take 1 Tier depending on selected Associations and level of optimization), so it *probably* should not break any campaigns.

    This Class has a total of 3 associations (hence its name) and 1 focus. In order to minimize dead levels, the Class features for the Primary Association and the Focus are on odd levels. Whereas the Class Features for the Secondary Associations are on even levels. The Class capstone then, is the Associate level 19 capstone abilities of his Secondary Associations.

    This project can also be considered my *fix* for lower tier classes (e.g. Paladin, Dragon Shaman, Soulknife etc). The Trissociate lets you access their basic class features, and then stack other stuff on top of it to make a character that is reasonably competent.

    For the various associations, and especially for spellcasters, the Mastery Point recovery system provides a means to recover limited use abilities in between daily fights, so as to minimize 15-Minute Adventuring Day syndrome. At the same time, the option to accelerate recovery at higher point cost lets them 'nova' (so to speak) when they really need to.

    While constructing this Class, I realized that there were many Associations which were dependent on Charisma. Hence in order to give the Intelligence and Wisdom based Associations a boost, I have included various "Insightful" feats to enable a given Association that is based off Charisma to use Intelligence or Wisdom instead.

    For DMs whose players are requesting to play this class:
    This class is massive. There is a lot of text and tables, so I would not recommend going through everything, unless you have a lot of free time, and enjoy reading this sort of thing. Nor is reading everything necessary. For the most part, you just need to read the overall class outline (these 2 sections: Class Features and Mastery Talents), and then zoom in on whatever Focus and Associations that your player has selected.

    In fact, if possible, ask your player to compile a summary table on the level progression of what the Class Features of his planned Trissociate will be (such as the Sample Trissociate at the end). This should be easy enough with the EZ-Trissociate auto-compilation program (see below). Everything else can be safely ignored, for the purposes of determining if this class will break your campaign.

    Note: This class underwent a major balance update on 13 April 2014, so try to use versions later than this.

    For players who want their DMs to approve this class:
    In general, DMs are highly wary of Homebrew, since some of it is (admittedly) highly game-breaking. Consequently most DMs are likely to reject a class which they do not understand, and one of the great barriers to understanding any class is having to read through the walls of text. As such, I recommend generating a simplified summary of your proposed Trissociate, and then asking for approval based on that. This summary should be easy to make with the EZ-Trissociate program below. If you have problems with EZ-Trissociate, you can send drop me a request with your desired Focus/Associations, and I can help you compile it.

    Edit History

    8 Mar 12
    -Added Half-Fiend
    -Added Ki Ghost Jump to Martial Sage
    -Changed Dragon Shaman Boost Aura duration to 1 round
    -Allowed Dargon Shaman to remove Feeblemind, Insanity and Ability Drain

    10 Mar 12
    -Revised wording of rapid conversion.
    -Beefed up Paladin a little.
    -Merged Half-Dragon and Dragon Breath into one Association

    11 Mar 12
    -Added a (hopefully) funny image
    -Changed the Sample Generalist, because the Half-Dragon went through too many changes.

    13 Mar 12
    -Added Damage Reduction to some of the half-blood Associations
    -Added Half-Plant Association
    -Added slow fall to Martial Sage

    14 Mar 12
    -Major revision, added the concept of a starter feature set, so that a Trissociate has at least some class features from his secondary associations even at level 1.
    -revised Ranger, increasing favored enemy progression, and shifting Hide in Plain Sght to be capstone
    -revised Rogue, increasing sneak attack progression, and making a Rogue special ability as capstone.

    17 Mar 12
    -Some minor spelling corrections, and rewording of the rules to make them clearer
    -Gave Half-bloods the option of recovering their spell like ability
    -Revised progression of Half-Dragon breath, so that it scales better at higher levels.

    7 Apr 12
    -Modified Bard Music progression, so that the player can choose which songs he gets.
    -Added Soulknife Association.

    7 Jun 12
    -Added note on using Bloodlines as an Association
    -Created Practiced Trissociate feat.
    -Added more sample Trissociates

    9 Jun 12
    -Added Half-Farspawn association
    -Added drafts for Totemist and Incarnate associations

    11 Jun 12
    -Revised Half-Blood associations so that they don't have insightful feat tax, and can be taken by melee brutes.
    -Added Half-Undead Association.
    -Paladin has been revamped slightly, so that Smite Evil now has additional effects
    -Added Magical Companion as a replacement for Paladin Special Mount.

    14 Jun 12
    -Added Artificer association.

    17 Jun 12
    -Added Elemental Savant association

    18 Jun 12
    -Added Lycanthrope assocation

    21 Jun 12
    -Modified Animal Companion associate splitting it thematically into animal and magical beast.
    -Boosted Dragon shaman by giving them the normam Touch of Vitality pool size.

    22 Jun 12
    -Added Artificer skills

    24 Jun 12
    -Added Shadow-Infused

    25 Jun 12
    -Animal Companion Association revised to match Druid progression
    -Lycanthrope association given survival (to allow scent tracking if they take the track feat)
    -Paladin association has had some minor tweaks. Improved Aura removed, and Smite Effect (Staggered) added.

    26 Jun 12
    -Shadow-Infused renamed to Shadow-Walker. Mostly because I think it sounds nicer.
    -Half-Undead given scaling fast healing.
    -Split Turn and Rebuke into seperate Associations. Gave each of them a few more SLAs

    28 Jun 12
    -Made further tweaks to Turn and Rebuke Undead
    -EZ-Trissociate now has all the currently created Associations.
    -Added protoype JAR version for running with Mac/UNIX

    29 Jun 12
    -Added note to Chosen Energy Resistance so that multiple Resistance from different associations will stack. This makes Associations that provide Energy Resistance more compatible with each other. (So you could blend together a Half-Farspawn/Half-Fiend without worrying about overlapping Energy Resistance).
    -Similiarly, Shadow Cold Resistance reworded to Chosen Energy Resistance with just 1 choice, to allow it to stack with other Chosen Energy Resustance.
    -Added an Adaptation note to Animal Companion to allow its possible use with other creatures.
    -Celesial and Farspawn Energy Resistance expanded to cover the 4 basic elements (Fire, Cold, Electricity, Acid)
    -Renamed Marshal to Marshal Aura association.
    -Added name of Association to Recover Spell and SLA talents, so that it is clear which association the talent applies to.
    -Elemental Strike given some equipment support by allowing warlock gear to apply to it.

    2 Jul 12
    -Added Cirno sample.

    9 Jul 12
    -Addded Erudite, Wu Jen and Shugenja associations.

    1 Aug 12
    -Added Half-Molydeus

    16 Jan 13
    -Half-Undead Damage Reduction is now Silver and Magic
    -Added Half-Alu-Demon
    -Some tweaks to the EZ-Trissociate program to include text on Proficiencies and Focus Features, as well general Trissocate Text at the end. The goal is to make the HTML page as self contained as possible.

    18 Jan 13
    -Added Faster Healing for Half-Undead Association.
    -Created Point Pool based Sublime school, for easier book-keeping.

    21 Jan 2013
    -Added Magic Blooded

    25 Jan 2013
    -Revamped Focus lists. Now with greater variety to cater to your character concept needs.

    30 Jan 2013
    -Added Scout Association. To prevent confusion with the Scout Focus, the Scout Focus has been renamed to Stalker (and Stalker Focus has been renamed to Expert). Also, Skrimisher Focus has been renamed to Mobility.
    -Removed the Cooldown Sublime Association
    -Revised Rogue Association: It has lost 1 special ability in exchange for Trap Sense +5. This now allows Rogue Associates to trade in their Trap Sense for the Penetrating Strike ACF from Dungeonscape.

    20 Feb 2013
    -Lycanthropy revamped. Base Animal Stat Cap removed to allow greater variety of animals to be viable.
    -Elemental Savant updated with better feat support. Elemental Strike now has melee options to enable Elemental Knight concepts

    2 Apr 2014
    -Updated Tables to match new forum format.
    -The Windows Executable/JAR has likewise been updated.

    13 Apr 2014
    -Major Balance overhaul: Mastery points greatly decreased. Weaker Associations beefed up.
    -Axiomatic/Anarchic and Psionic Blooded added.

    17 Apr 2014
    -More Support added for overlapping class features: Progressive Wings, Poison Immunity, Disease Immunity, Paralysis Immunity, Polymorph/Petrification Immunity, Stunning Immunity
    -Recover Companion for Animal Companion to increase usability at late levels.
    -Added Ozodrin Association

    This is a prototype program that contains all my created Associations, as of the given date stamp (YYYYMMDD format). Note that it needs at least Java 1.6 (or Java 6 depending on which form of versioning you use) to run. It will prompt you to select 1 Focus, 1 primary, and 2 secondary associations through simple console prompts. Then it will automatically compile your selection for you! It outputs 2 files as follows:
    1) The first file is a HTML file (which you can then print for reference, or e-mail to your DM).
    2) The second is a TXT file formatted into GITP forum posting code. Note that due to differences in how Linux and DOS/Windows handles linebreaks, the TXT file will look as if there are no linebreaks, if you open it in notepad. But rest assured they are there, just that notepad does not display them properly. You will see them when you copy-paste the code onto the forum, or open the TXT file with Wordpad or Microsoft Office.

    EXE Instructions:
    Latest Version (17 Apr 2014): Windows Executable
    1) When you click on the download link, it asks you what do you want to do with the file
    2) Save the file to any location you want, within your computer
    3) Go to that location, find the file
    4) Right click on it, and then click on "properties".
    5) Go to "Compatability" tab, and ensure that "Run this program as administrator" is checked.
    6) Click "OK" to save changes, and close the "properties" window
    7) Run the executable by double clicking on it.
    8) Windows might ask you if you want to let it make changes to your computer. Click yes, as it needs disk write permission to generate the files.
    9) It should ask you to select your Focus + Associations
    10) After inputting your choices, it should generate the HTML and TXT within the same folder, and close itself.

    If you do not get a HTML file, try these alternate set of instructions:
    7) Open DOS prompt, and go to the location where you saved the file
    8) Manually call the executable through DOS.
    9) Even if this does not work, it will at least print a nice error message telling you why it isn't working.

    There is also a JAR version for Mac/Unix users (although window users who have problems with the executable can also give it a try). If you are having problems downloading either of these files from Mediafire, you can alternatively get them from my OneDrive Mirror.

    JAR Instructions:
    1) When you click on the download link, it asks you what do you want to do with the file
    2) Save the file to any location you want, within your computer
    3) Open the terminal console and go the directory where the JAR file is kept.
    4) Enter the following (where YYYYMMDD is the 8 digit date stamp):
    java -jar EZ_TrissociateYYYYMMDD.jar
    5) It should ask you to select your Focus + Associations
    6) After inputting your choices, it should generate the HTML and TXT file within the same folder, and close itself.

    If you experience any difficulties, please let me know. Chances are you're not the only one who is having them. Kindly provide following details on the error:
    *Whether you are using the EXE or JAR
    *What is your operating system (Windows 7? Windows XP? Mac? Linux?)
    *What is the error that occurs (e.g. does it ask you for Focus + Associations, but does not generate a file thereafter?)


    Current Version: Source

    Older Versions:
    13 Apr 2014: Windows Executable and JAR version and Source
    05 Apr 2014: Windows Executable and JAR version andSource
    02 Apr 2014: Windows Executable and JAR version and Source

    Association Wish List

    -Vampire (or rather Vampire Spawn)
    -Shaman (OA)
    Last edited by JeminiZero; 2014-04-17 at 06:12 AM.