Indeed I did want harsh. Okay I'm going to start by saying that since I'll now be attempting to redux the other five, I'm going to make it a point to include the Mark of (layer) feat in each disciple's class. Might make for a better flavour. I'm lucky that I've got a flavour guy (mulletmanalive) and a crunch guy (drolyt). You always need those two guys whne making something.
Originally Posted by Mulletmanalive
Slight argument that leads to further modification
I don't see ANYTHING cultisty about Disciple of Mammon, Dispater or Mephistopholes. All three of those classes just kill/steal from things. Probably if I'm reduxing, I'll rewrite them to be more cultisty.
At first I was a bit wary of having anything overtly sexual about the class, but your right. These are the two definitive sexual beings of Baator. Bring me my raunch dressing!
As for fire not making sense, their layer is the fire dominant layer, and Belial, at least in BoVD which is the more powerful of the two versions, has three fire themed SLAs (hellfire storm, produce flame, wall of fire) comparable to his daughter's six (Belials SLAs plus fireball, fire shield and flame blade). I see looking at the FCII that his aspect doesn't have fire based SLAs. So I'm going to keep the fire thing.
The Dark Speech thing was something I wanted to give this class to be more unique (though any other character can do it with three feats) from the other disciples. I see Belial and Fierna as perverse in most ways, not just sexually but that they might be the least restrained of the archdukes.
I disagree with the no spellcasting advancement plus class feature stance. Why would a spellcaster take this class if it didn't advance their casting?