The opposite of "non sequitur"? (Latin language question)

[Telonius]

Necromancy!

Another question: what's a good Latin translation of the word, "History"? I can't find it on any Latin dictionaries for some reason...

It depends on your perspective. To describe Roman history, the word might be "Nunc."

[13_CBS]

So...no other takers?

[13_CBS]

So...no one else?

[Kneenibble]

Man, I translated all three and removed them in a huff about an hour ago when there was no response after four and a half days. I still have the translations if you want.

[13_CBS]

You did? Sorry! I forgot to check this thread for a while.

Would you mind reposting your translations, please?

[Kneenibble]

Yeah, no problem man. I'm just glad you weren't disinterested in them, I put some effort into the translation.

The first:

My body is an amalgam of swords
Iron my blood and glass my heart
Ten thousand battles lie behind me
Not once defeated, not once retreating,
Not once understood
Always alone, intoxicated with victory on that hill of death
There has never been any meaning to this life
And so I pray, Unlimited Blade Works

corpus mixtura mihi ensium
ferrum sanguini vitrumque cordi
decem millia retro me bellorum iacent
victum nec fugacem
nec notum semel
semper solum victoria ebrium in isto necis colle
numquam ipsi vitae finis fuit
itaque o infinita ensium opera oro

The second:

The sword is the bone of my flesh
Steel my body and fire my blood
Ten thousand blades these hands have forged
Never knowing death
Never knowing life
Strengthened by sorrow and strengthened by pain
Yet these hands will forever hold nothing
And so I pray, Unlimited Blade Works

os carnis mihi is ensis
chalybs corpori flammaque sanguini
manus decem milia ensium procuderunt
morte scitis nec vita
maerore altae ac dolore
tamen haec umquam nihil tenebunt
itaque o infinita ensium opera oro

The third:

The sword is the bone of my flesh
Steel my body and fire my blood.
Ten thousand blades these hands have forged
Not once understanding, not once aware of gain
Yet strengthened by conviction and strengthened by will
These hands will forever be a shield
I have no regrets though this was and will be the only path
So I pray, Unlimited Blade Works

os carnis mihi is ensis
chalybs corpori flammaque sanguini
manus decem millia ensium procuderunt
intellecto nec lucro senso semel
tamen fide altae ac voluntate
haec semper me clipeabunt
nihil paenitent me etsi hoc est solum eritque iter
itaque o infinita ensium opera oro

[13_CBS]

Awesome!

Your translation seems to be different from rtg's. Just out of curiosity, would you mind if you also posted a more literal translation of the three chants? I just want to compare rtg's and your translations and see which one I like best.

Just as a reminder, "Unlimited Blade Works" means "Infinite/ Unlimited Sword-Crafting" or similar in English.

[Kneenibble]

With respect to our colleague, rtg's translation contains grammatical errors and very clumsy Latin.

I understand what the phrase meant. Infinita modifies opera, which is the plural of opus -- a word that carries the meaning of a work, a labour, a finished piece of work, a building, a finished work of art: so that infinita ensium opera is a direct translation: infinite works of swords.

Do you have questions about specific word choices? I translated your English verses pretty directly, only in properly economic Latin. The grammar is not the same therefore, but it essentially equates to the same meaning.

[13_CBS]

so that infinita ensium opera is a direct translation: infinite works of swords.

Oooh...now that's a pretty awesome translation. I like it!

Do you have questions about specific word choices? I translated your English verses pretty directly, only in properly economic Latin. The grammar is not the same therefore, but it essentially equates to the same meaning.

I don't really know anything about Latin (hence the thread), so I'll take your word for it.

Many thanks for your help!

[Fookleyur]

Sorry to be pedantic, but sequitur does not literally mean "that which follows". Sequitur means "it follows". It's the third-person-singular conjugation of a verb. Non sequitur means "it does not follow". Construe the similar English idiom, "it follows that..."

I'll skim through Cicero for something with a precedent, who is full of this kind of cute hypotaxis. I like the two suggestions ergo and quod erat demonstrandum, the latter particularly because of the imperfect tense and passive periphrastic: a nice little combination of syntax to suggest a successfully discharged purpose.

I'm a non-sequitur poet and absurdist writer. I hate coining my own terms, but I did. I sort my works by their "Semiotic Fidelity":

Ortho-sequitur (is "sequitur");
Amphi-sequitur (is a story that has "structure" or makes a point in spite of being comprised of non-sequiturs); and of course non-sequitur.

Cheers!

Fookleyur Fooky Fook of The Foo

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