Torentaal'is' Unerring Surprise (3.5, Feat, PEACH)

[Risek]

Torentaal'is' Unerring Surprise [General]
In the style of a great house of drow assassins, you have learned to suprise even the most experienced of sneaks and warriors.
Prerequisites: BAB +12
Benefits: Whenever you attack a creature who would not be treated as flat-footed due to some feat or special ability such as Uncanny dodge, if your attack roll succeeds by 10 or more, your target is treated as flat-footed as normal.

Yeah, I know the wording sucks, but what do you think? I'm just sick of the fact that some classes can make an ability (SA) that a few classes are based on completely null with such a simple little thing.
The name comes from the house of my first successful PC: Rial Torentaal, a drow fighter/ranger/rogue/shadowblade who I ran for almost six years before retiring.

[SurlySeraph]

Seems balanced to me.

[hiryuu]

Don't they already have this, except they call it "being four levels higher than your victim?"

[Risek]

Nope, that's for flanking people with Improved Uncanny Dodge, and it's only rogues.

[Djinn_in_Tonic]

Nice, but I'd just say "if you succeed by 10 or more." Otherwise you're rolling to many dice, in my opinion.

Still, it works as it is.

[Eloel]

That is balanced, although frustrating. They're getting an ability/feat, to defend, and you're overriding it. It's just like bypassing energy immunities.

[Miraqariftsky]

I suggest changing "Unerring" to "Overwhelming" because there is still a chance that whatever ye roll might fail the check. Why? "Unerring" means that, well, it doesn't fail--- ever... and by the very fact that ye roll for it means there's still that factor of randomness that means there is always a chance, however small, that it might not succeed.

Whether it's "balanced" or not, I don't rightly know, sorry. I am not that good a judge of things at such high levels of play.

[Risek]

Torentaal'is' Unerring Surprise [General]
In the style of a great house of drow assassins, you have learned to suprise even the most experienced of sneaks and warriors.
Prerequisites: BAB +12
Benefits: Whenever you attack a creature who would not be treated as flat-footed due to some feat or special ability such as Uncanny dodge, if your attack roll succeeds by 10 or more, your target is treated as flat-footed as normal.

Whaddaya think?

I enjoy overriding immunities; besides, if a rogue or whatever takes this, it's still going to be hard to get a roll 10 higher than that warblade with Uncanny Dodge's AC and hit.

Oh, and I'm not sure "Overwhelming" is the right word either..

[Debihuman]

Wouldn't be being a drow be a prerequisite?

Debby

[Risek]

Wouldn't be being a drow be a prerequisite?

Debby

It should be, this was infact named for a drow (as written in the OP), and it's a technique developed by drow, I don't think it should be limited to just drow.

[hiryuu]

Nope, that's for flanking people with Improved Uncanny Dodge, and it's only rogues.

Okay, re-read everything again. What does this do that Improved Feint doesn't do already?

[Risek]

Okay, re-read everything again. What does this do that Improved Feint doesn't do already?

Well, it's more for those characters with crappy Charisma scores who hit better than they act. Anyway, the main reason I made this is because Improved Feint doesn't work with ranged weapons.