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GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread II
Welcome to the Giant in the Playground Monster Competition chat thread where you can ask questions, comment, or just in general discuss about the submissions to our monthly monster mash.
This month's contest is...
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GITP Monster Competition Chat: The Original
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Past Competitions
Plop Plop Fizz Fizz
Gits and Shiggles
Mr. Roboto
One Flesh
My Immortal
Angels Among Us
Grateful Dead
Fear Itself
Way of the Wyrm
A Thing of Beauty
Beings of Legend III
On the Road Again
Faerie Tales
Game Masters
Mayonnaise Mayhem
Animal Kingdom
Paragons of Passion
Tick... Tock...
Banquet of Beasts
Out of This World
Spooks and Spirits
Urban Legends
♫ Sing Along ♫
We The People
Beings of Legend II
Now You See Me...
Gone Mental
Creepy Crawlies
Of the Rising Sun
Flights of Fancy
Built of Faith
Home and Hearth
Gratuitous Gore
Dream A Little Dream
Tiny But Tough!
Beings of Legend
Burn, Baby, BURN!
Birds and the Bees
April Fools
A Wizard Did It
Champions of Good
Fimbulwinter
Holly Jolly
Harvest Moon
Fell Beasts
Considered To Be Unnatural
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Monster Index
(Updated as of 'Plop Plop Fizz Fizz')
Spoiler* Contest Winners
A Shadow of Spiders by Yahzi
* Aadar Llwach by Stycotl
Ajatarra by strawberryman
Anamnesis by Closet_Skeleton
Angel, Caries by Bisected8
* Angel, Dairymaid by Debihuman
Angel of Sustenance by rtg0922
Angelic Preener by Admiral Squish
Anima Aderendo by NemoUtopia
Ankou by Mulletmanalive
Arcadian Beetle by Belboz
Asherah, Spirit of the Shores by Sir Shadow
Ashling by Mr.Bookworm
Aspect of Leviathan by Schylerwalker
Assimilator Flies by DarkShard
Astarus by Bakkan
Astral Pack-Beast by DracoDei
Astral Shard by vegetalss4
Autumnal Avenger by waterpenguin43
Autumnal Seer by The Demented One
Bad Harvest by Reltzik
Barbed Fleshworm by Reltzik
Bardfly by Cespenar
Bee-Holder by Bhu
Behemoth, Demon Prince of Gluttony by Iamyourking
Belly Serpent by Joxer t' Mighty
Bitterbug by Bisected8
Blight Cow by LordOfNarf
Bloodscarab by Abjurer
* Bloody Handed Jack by Bhu
Blood Ooze by Vaynor
Bone Conductor by adanedhel9
Bornura by Lappy9000
* Bubba the Headless Chicken by Bhu
Burning Bush by OOTS_Rules.
Busker by Vaynor
Butchery Golem by The_Glyphstone
Cab't by NemoUtopia
Cake Golem by Fangthane
Carnivorous Thyme by Bisected8
Caterwaul by Debihuman
Charspawn by Closet_Skeleton
* Chef's Mage™ Brand Fully Automatic Kitchen by Adanedhel9
Chelissadhu by Stormthorn
Child of Flame by Macrovore
Chocolate Truffle by Afroakuma
Christmas Goodies Golem by Purple gelatinous cube o' Doom
Chroneruts by Kellus
Clockwork Weaver by Sir Shadow
Cloud of Strife by Excellence
Coal Elf by Belboz
Coronal Elemental by Icewalker
Corrupted Offshoot of Yggdrasil by Random_person
* Crow Mistress by Sir Shadow
Cruor Skeleton by Bisected8
Cyrocerebellus by Khantalas
* Dadafly by The Demented One
Daemon, Malzalalim by Amiel
Dancing Golem by Bisected8
Dark Seed by Belboz
* Dattar by Poppatomus
Deadly Gaze by Bisected8
* Death by Lyinginbedmon
Deathspore Mushroom by ShneekeyTheLost
Delphine by waterpenguin43
Deus Die by Qube
Devouring Domicile by Kyace
Diatock by Lappy9000
Digit Swarm by rtg0922
Dirgesinger by XenoGeno
* Discernable Anatomy Golem by ArmorArmadillo
Disco Dragon by DracoDei
Dismal Haze by Stormthorn
Disruptor by Lord Tataraus
Divine Brigadier
Divine Spark of Inspiration by Fax_Celestis
Domestic Brownie by Littlechicory
Doomborn Warrior by Carrion_Humanoid
Dopplepunkt by Bisected8
Dracolocust Swarm by Bisected8
Dragon Victim bySlaadLord
Dread Colossus by Holocron Coder
Dringwr by Bisected8
Drome by NakedCelt
Drummer Ghoul by The Demented One
* Dust Bunny by Fax_Celestis
Edible Golem by Bhu
Eggnog Elemental by DragonTounge
Emberwilde by The Demented One
E.M.I.T by Bisected8
Empress of Rot by Jaerc
Ender by Schylerwalker
Eqach Wuilees by Grey Knight
Ergotine by Belboz
Essence of Fire by Kel
Ethercat by Adanedhel9
Existential Terror by Ghill
Exploding Chicken by Bitzeralisis
* Facsimilix by Maerok
Falling Foam by Shuryougospel
* False God by Bhu
Farceur by PhantomBread
Favored of the Traveler God by DracoDei
Fear Archon by Flarp
* Fergaast by Palcosmo
Fimbulwight by Purple gelatinous cube o' Doom
Finger of Loki by Beldak
Fish In A Barrel by Cog
Flamefly by Onasuma
Flamehaunt Wraith by Athenodorus
Flent by Kuja.girl
Flesh Beast by Beldak
Flying Spaghetti Monster by NakedCelt
Forsaken Blade by Vaynor
Fractal Bear by DracoDei
Free Spirit by DracoDei
Fungal Banshee by Penguinizer
Furnace Shadow by Bisected8
Futureling by Glooble Glistencrist
Fyumyad by Sir Shadow
Galuverant by MechaKingGhidra
* Gamer by sidhe3141
Gastrus by Belboz
Geliefd by Knight9910
Ghostfolk by Silence
Giant Bacillus by Belboz
Gingerbread Giant by RS14
Glass Golem by Duchess_of_Elysian
Glass Spider by Blue_C.
Gluttonous Plague by Khantalas
Golden Flame of Pelor by Glooble Glistencrist
Gorin No Oni by Caracol
Gorshk by Nelphine
Gothad by Sir Shadow
Graveforged by Hyrael
Gray Master by Vrel
Grey Goo by Belboz
Grey Reaper by Schylerwalker
*Gridoll by Guyr Adamantine
Gumwad by Enlong
Guoreeat by Unosarta
Gut Snake by DracoDei
Haint o’ the Crossroads by rtg0922
* Harvester by Deca
Haurla by dentrag2
* Headhunter by Kellus
Headless Dragon by Bisected8
Hearth Protector by Lord Tataraus
Hearthworm by FirebirdFlying
Heliotoad by Lord Tataraus
Helon of the Heaven's Lore by Anonymouswizard
Herald of Winter by MandibleBones
Hidden Flame by hylian chozo
* Hjordis by Bisected8
Hollow Vicegerent by Jaerc
Hordeling by Cespenar
Icicle Beast by Glooble Glistencrist
Idle Chill by TheLogman
Ilthslamael by Closet_Skeleton
Immortal Frawg by Bhu
In-F-able Horror by Zom B
Inaran Fae by RandomFellow
Invisible Giant by Vaynor
Issun-bōshi by Paragon Badger
Jack-o'-Ripper by Jergmo
Janus Golem by Debihuman
Jump-At-A-Body by Joxer t' Mighty
Karnak the Everfrozen by gorknmork
Kawaii Ooze by Goober4473
Ketrakion by NakedCelt
* Khrysalathi's Memorandum by Joxer t' Mighty
Kindling by Mattarias
* Kiseichuu Yuurei by Bhu
Kittenbush by Shuryougospel
Knight Divine by Peregrine
Lap Dog by Blue_C.
Legendary Crocodile by Bhu
Limb Louse by Bisected8
Living Bard Song by Daedu
Llorrick by Lord Iames Osari
Lord of Rest by DracoDei
Loutae by Nhoj
*Lowfolk by AKA_Bait
Luugu by NakedCelt
Lure Eel by Icewalker
Lusca by strawberryman
Magic Eater Termites by Caracol
Magypsy by waterpenguin43
Maiden of Plumes by SlaadLord
Malicious Slander by Bisected8
ManBearPig by Maerok
Mandrake Oak by The Gilded Duke
Man o’War by Belboz
Marauder of the Flesh by Maerok
Mawstinger by Bisected8
Megadentis by Mulletmanalive
Melodic Dragon by Arkanis
Mepholk by DracoDei
Mherephess by TheEscapist
Mindmite by Fax_Celestis
* Minimus Drone by The Demented One
Mist Maiden by NakedCelt
Monstrous Cicada by Paragon Badger
Monstrous Silk Worm by rtg0922
Mortal Devil by Bisected8
Mother of Shadow by Fangthane
Mourning Dove by Thistle
Mousefolk by Belboz
MS-OBv9 by waterpenguin43
* Muliwai by Fax_Celestis
Mynithar Beetle by MattKatt
Nephilim by The Gilded Duke
Nephtyan Rivermaid by waterpenguin43
Nigh by Krimm_Blackleaf
Nightleech by Closet_Skeleton
* Nimbus Golem by Poppatomus
Noble Fir by LordOfNarf
Nobody's Problem by TheLogman
Nog Fairy by Thomar_of_Uointer
Nudibrancha by Levi
Occult Cúcharraige by strawberryman
Oculans by Magnor Criol
* Old Man of the Field by Bearofbadnews
* Oneiroi by AKA_Bait
Oran-Spawn by The Demented One
* Oreichalkos Dragon by Stycotl
Panic Shade by Crafty Cultist
Patchcorners by Bisected8
Peanut Reaper by Lappy9000
Pembunuh by Bhu
Penumbral Stalker by The_Glyphstone
Perfected One by Random_person
Phaighthmeam by NakedCelt
Phobus Beast by SlaadLord
Pituku by flyingpoo22
Poisonskin Crusher by Leicontis
Porcelain Doll by Sir Shadow
* Precious Little Thing by strawberryman
Preymaker by Icewalker
Pure Thought by Bisected8
Pyrotechnic Golem by Simius
Pyroworm by Bisected8
* Qliphoth by The Demented One
Quencher by Hyrael
Quiet by Hairb
Quintessence Dragon by NakedCelt
Quintessence Golem by rtg0922
Raenia by Phoenix Talion
Raisuden by Bisected8
Raver Swarm by Stormthorn
Raw Sinusoid by RS14
Raze, the Soul of the Sun by Proven_Paradox
* Reality Shifter by Vaynor
Reanimator by Zom B
Relentless Cuckolder by EndlessEnnui
Repenter of Heironeos by Onasuma
Retrospect by Stycotl
Reveler by Admiral Squish
Rider's Angel by Arioch
Rift Demon by Corncracker
Roach by Billwill91
Roc Golem by Bisected8
Rook, The Greymount Fortress by Admiral Squish
Rthuote by SmileyX
Sabretooth by NakedCelt
Sacrificial by Cespenar
Sandalphon, the Hand of God by Iamyourking
Sandblighter by Sir Conkey
Sapphiren by Elrond
Savior of the Forest by Corncracker
* Scaramouche by The Demented One
Scorpell by Ajkkjjk52
Sebal, Power Unbound by SilveryCord
Sentient Tumour by AtomicKitKat
Seraph of the Heavenly Host by Schylerwalker
Serviceforged by Finerty
* She Who Walks Beneath the Ice by Bearofbadnews
Shimmering Ooze by RS14
Sialla Danda by Afroakuma
Silly Frocker by Bisected8
Silver Lionling by rtg0922
* Skratta-sker by Stycotl
Shiny by Owrtho
Shrieking Slicer by McDeath
Singers From Outside by Bhu
Singing Stone by KingGolem
*Singing Tree by Sir Shadow
Skin Spiders by Dove
Sleeper In the Deep by Alveanerle
Slumber Cat by Thistle
Smokey Floater by DracoDei
Snap Dragon by Sir Shadow
Snowball Warrior by The Demented One
Snowy Archon by The_Cowinator
Soil Keeper by The Demented One
Soluminaire Ooze by ShneekeyTheLost
Somesclaustrum (Whining Head) by Bisected8
Somniletum by FlyingWhale
Sonorous Mouther by rtg0922
Sons/Daughters of Silence by Lord_Gareth
Soot Brownie by Thistle
Soul Hound by RandomFellow
Sower of Seasons by adanedhel9
Spartoi by Joxer t' Mighty
Spideer by Fax_Celestis
Spirit Gate by Owrtho
Spirit of Dullness by Bisected8
Spirit of the North Wind by Duke of URL
Spirit of the Woods by Vaynor
Split Second by Titanium Dragon
Spook by RS14
Spriggan by NakedCelt
Starperson by belboz
Star Spore Seedling by Glimworm
Stoic, Shield of Shields by Proven_Paradox
* Storm Serpent by RS14
Stormhaunt by The_Snark
Strangefolk by Fangthane
Sun Devil by Stolenchariot
Sun Sprite by ZeroNumerous
Sun Thief by Haruspex
Sycophantic Specter by Kyace
Taco Fairy by Lappy9000
Talmascalion by Foeofthelance
* Temporal Echo by TheLogman
Thane of the Anvil by Haruspex
The Angel of Death by Bhu
The Benefactors by Schylerwalker
The Black Mask by Bhu
The Colors Purple by The Gilded Duke
* The Eight Brothers by TheEscapist
The Final/First Word by DracoDei
The Grandfather Djinn_In_Tonic
The Gray Man by Jergmo
The Harvest King by Admiral Squish
The Hawk by Headwarpage
The Jester by The Dark Fiddler
The Known World by The Gilded Duke
The Kulreich von Lemminstantrophonees Legacy by CabbageTheif
The Morrígna by Stycotl
The Name and the Soul by Khantalas
The Resurrection Women by Bhu
* The Slender Man by Hyooz
The Terror by Gorgondantess
The Weeping Children by Jkoshe
These Boots by The Gilded Duke
Thoughtleech by Dennetik
Tome of the Worlds by Vaynor
Torell the Nightheart by Kel
Tosurak by Maerok
Träumen by Calver
Tuatha de Danaan by sidhe3141
Turtlehawk by Krimm_Blackleaf
Unbound Elemental Spirit by Bisected8
Unspoken Chorus by Djinn_In_Tonic
Urban Oasis by rtg0922
Vascula by Kai-Palin
* Vastor by NakedCelt
Vazjura by Lord Iames Osari
Veiled Deer by Malachite
Vertigo Swarm by Ertier
Vetala by Lord Tataraus
Vilapi by Hyrael
Violence by Runeir
Voice of Divinity by Blue_C.
Voracious Lemming by Bhu
* Votive Guardian by Thistle
* Wanderwish by SlaadLord
Watchdog by Debihuman
*Watcher by Paragon Badger
Weirded Way by Adanedhel9
Whimsycap Toadstool by Djinn_In_Tonic
Whisperlings by Daverick
Windsider by Thomar_of_Uointer
Wing Dragon by DracoDei
Wingbane Glider by Cespenar
* Winterchilde by Bearofbadnews
Witch-Begotten Stalker by Closet_Skeleton
Wonup by Bisected8
Woodsman by The Gilded Duke
Woror by Kyace
Woruldoomwere by Bisected8
Wrath by Krimm_Blackleaf
Wupperhin by The Great Skenardo
Xintri by Sir Shadow
Yersinia by Lucid_Archon
Yule Pig by Total_Viking_Power
Zodiacal Hydra by Calver
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2009-01-02, 01:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread II
Why do we have two of these threads?
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread II
After a long absense, I will be participating again. Working on my entry now.
EDIT: It's up. I probably screwed up a lot of the math though, I've been doing 4e stuff and I'm kind of out of practice for 3.5. I might post a picture later.Last edited by Glooble Glistencrist; 2009-01-02 at 03:11 PM.
GENERATION 18. The first time you see this, copy it into your sig and add 1 to the generation. social experiment.
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2009-01-02, 05:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread II
Futurelings:
A few formatting issues with linebreaks etc, but you probably already knew that and were going to fix it in the next revision.
Now normally I might have PMed you (a habit I have gotten out of, but MIGHT want to get back into), except that the major flaw I wanted to mention is one that I have seen often enough before that I think homebrewers in general should be made more aware of it.
Steal Time, as written, might as well read "This creature gets a free standard or move action every round and <stuff about denying actions to other creatures>".
Why you ask?
Because rats, earthworms, and mosquittos exist.
Whenever something has a benefit (or in one case I saw, an impairment) to a creature for harming another creature, remember the SMALL stuff people!
In this case some solutions might include one or more of the following:
-A cap on how long the points may be retained.
-Limiting it to sapient creatures (even then it is going to capture rather than kill, tie the enemies up and whack them for subdual damage to its clock-work heart's content, including 1st level commoners who get on their bad side).
-Speaking of which: Lethal Damage Only? (only useful in combination with another solution)
-Goes to zero every time they time-hop.
-Cap on how many points may be stored at one time (scaling with HD?)
-Target/victem must be the same size or larger than the Futureling.
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread II
Alright. The Grandfather has been posted, and it may set the record for lowest hp on a CR 20 creature. Or maybe not.
Anyway, critique away! I'll admit I'm a little unsure of the CR, but I think that the addition of A Stitch in Time along with Time Stands Still and Flight of Time may make the estimate about right.Last edited by Djinn_in_Tonic; 2009-01-02 at 11:06 PM.
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread II
I thought I'd included a limit of how many it could store at any given time. If not, I'll tweak that.
Yeah, my brother used that trick with his Misty Step in 4.0 - squashed five bugs to teleport 60ft.GENERATION 18. The first time you see this, copy it into your sig and add 1 to the generation. social experiment.
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Debihuman: You brought a smile to my face with that entry. It's been years since I've read it, but I loved that book!
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The Watchdog is up. Please feel free to PEACH it. Comments and criticisms are welcome. This is my first time entering so I'd really like to hear what y'all have to say. Don't be afraid to tell me how much you hate it either.
Thanks Djinn. I loved that book too.
CR 20 for the Grandfather looks about right but challenge rating is more of an art than a science. My only complaint is that this seems like it should be a quasi-deity or at least an epic creature of CR 21. If he were a quasi-deity it would explain the 40 Wisdom a bit better. Having divine rank 0 is almost where you have put this --the only thing that you'd need to explain the low hit points, but that's easily accountable.
DebbyLast edited by Debihuman; 2009-01-03 at 04:53 PM.
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The Grandfather:
Since the teleportation can't be stopped by Dimensional Anchor or Dimension Lock (because both have a non-instantaneous duration), and is through time, then he can just pop back the instant he gets killed, having refilled his Spin off of some rats or whatever. In fact the only way I can think of winning a fight is Stone to Flesh with perhaps subdual damage (which doesn't technically reduce hp if I remember correctly) to keep him down until you can prepare and cast that. I am seeing CR closer to 30 than 20 here...
Watchdog:
Craft Wondrous Item is a feat, not a skill. Use Craft(Metal Working) or maybe even Craft(Clockworks), or if using the Blackmoor setting (or stuff from it), Craft(Clock and Steam).
The concept of an INT 10 creature being referred to as being "bred" for a specific purpose strikes me as Evil... they weren't slaves in the book, and seemed perfectly capable of picking there own mates/spouses. Now, if you wanted to make them follow something like the tenants of Allurehn (the goddess whose portfolio basically includes a benign form of eugenics that my mepholk follow) that would fit perfectly well.
Edit:
If they were in my world (where large enough dragons regularly get limbs painlessly guillotined off and Regenerated to sell to armorers, weaponsmiths and etc) then the watch of a Watchdog who died (especially of natural causes) would often be sold off to a craftsman who had a decent chance of repairing it, since such an accurate timepiece being kept in circulation would be in keeping with the mission (or at least personality) of the Watchdogs, and thus would be seen as perfectly honorable toward the deceased.Last edited by DracoDei; 2009-01-03 at 07:07 PM.
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread II
Well, I don't actually know the rules for Divine Rank, so I think I'll leave it as it is for now.
DracoDei, your point is a valid one, so I added a clause to his Deathless ability.
That said, from a DM's viewpoint, the Grandfather isn't the sort who would use his powers on animals simply to gain Spin. He would not destroy something if it is not that creatures time to die. So that's a case of monster psychology overriding mechanical exploits.
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Last edited by DracoDei; 2009-01-04 at 01:17 AM.
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Well, I just realized what idea of mine I would like to use for this... the problem is that it is two outsiders who fight as a team but are eternal rivals. One is never encountered without the other. Are "two sides of the same coin" type entries allowed? IE is it "One creature" or "One entry"? If I must, I will limit myself to just the last one I guess... but they really are supposed to go together.
In any case... here is my first draft of the opening fluff.
"I am the first to strike."
"I am the last thing you will see before death claims you."
"I am speed incarnate."
"I am inevitability made flesh."
"I was the wind that seared every bit of your flesh."
"I will be the rock that will break your bone."
"None shall out-race my blades."
"None shall be unharmed by my blow."
"I am The First Word."
"I am The Final Word."
"We challenge you to honorable Combat!"
(And yes, 2nd edition fans, The Final Word was inspired by the weapon ability of the same name and The First Word was created especially to be his foil.)Last edited by DracoDei; 2009-01-04 at 12:45 AM.
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread II
Thanks a bunch. I meant to use a skill not a feat but have since decided that requiring the feat wasn't such a bad idea either.
The concept of an INT 10 creature being referred to as being "bred" for a specific purpose strikes me as Evil... they weren't slaves in the book, and seemed perfectly capable of picking there own mates/spouses. Now, if you wanted to make them follow something like the tenants of Allurehn (the goddess whose portfolio basically includes a benign form of eugenics that my mepholk follow) that would fit perfectly well.
From the watchdog's point of view mating is void of any emotional attachment. They may be intelligent, but they have a completely different mindset from humans. Watchdogs do not pairbond. The males abandon the females after soon after mating and leave the puppies to be raised solely by the females. Once the puppies are weaned in 6 to 8 weeks, they are fostered out to complete their training. After reaching adulthood in 10-12 months, a watchdog is assigned to his or her post.
Perhaps I need to add a bit more history to make this more palatable.
If they were in my world (where large enough dragons regularly get limbs painlessly guillotined off and Regenerated to sell to armorers, weaponsmiths and etc) then the watch of a Watchdog who died (especially of natural causes) would often be sold off to a craftsman who had a decent chance of repairing it, since such an accurate timepiece being kept in circulation would be in keeping with the mission (or at least personality) of the Watchdogs, and thus would be seen as perfectly honorable toward the deceased.
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Actually it looks like we are on the same page... while I PREFER monogamy and parental involvement, I understand that neither is required for Good alignment in D&D and wasn't referring to such matters at all... I was just talking about someone else forcefully picking their mates for them, which seems not to be the case.
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I would have to give it 4 arms (The First Word pretty much has to dual-wield and The Final Word really works better with a 2 handed sword than a longsword) and a split personality that acts on three different initiatives (The First Word gets a full round at +20 initiative modifier, then another at +10 initiative modifier and The Final Word gets its with a -20 initiative modifier)... doable in theory, but it works much better with 2 bodies rather than 1. I think I would rather only enter The Final Word than do that. (Or i could do The Gray Men from "Momo" by the same person who wrote "The Never-Ending Story"...)
Basically the part about "Never encountered except as a pair" is my major argument for it being allowed... I mean if I wanted to create a unique creature with a unique mount, that would sound reasonable so...
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I was thinking more along the lines that if they have to dual wield their weapons then they have to work together (at least some of the time) and it makes walking and riding interesting if they can't agree on what they are doing. Maybe only one side is dominant at a time.
Or you could have them share a body back-to-back --giving them 4 arms and 4 legs and 2 heads but only one torso. I don't recall that being done.
Conjoined twins perhaps?
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Closest thing I ever saw to that:
I think it was in "Monsterous Geographica: Forest" (or around here if not) that I read of a creature that was a swam conjoined back to back with a vulture, one was always asleep when the other was awake, the swan good, the vulture evil. The vulture could make a skill check to fly upside-down to make people looking up from below think it was the swan mode. Started from human twins who got transformed and magicked together (in a single spell/ritual). Then later their wives got involved in the situation and had the same thing happen to them, and thus a new race was born.
And I still think having it act on 3 different initiatives and so forth doesn't work so hot... having a mode change MIGHT... but still not quite as good.Last edited by DracoDei; 2009-01-04 at 07:46 PM.
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I'm working on my entry at the moment, and I must say, there's some pretty awesome stuff up so far. It's gonna be hard to compete with the likes of Tock(!) or Father Time himself.
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Ahhh....nothing like finishing a monster at 3:00am after several hours of hard work
I still have some issues about balance, the inability to wear armor could be a huge penalty, however it doesn't hinder spellcasters. Their daily spells could be a little wonky, but they can't use them often, so I figure it's not a gigantic issue. What I need is some PEACHing and more options for player characters. Oh, and first playable monster in the competition
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I just noticed that I messed up the Lore section by not looking at how Knowledge checks are done and most of the entries seem to be off on this.
From the SRD:
In general, the DC of such a check equals 10 + the monster’s HD. A successful check allows you to remember a bit of useful information about that monster.
For every 5 points by which your check result exceeds the DC, you recall another piece of useful information.
Why is the sample creature a warrior? It isn't even it's favored class. If you change it to Bard that would make a lot more sense.
Born to Blossom pretty much negates the restriction to wearing armor. Furthermore, the restriction seem pretty arbitrary to me. You don't say why the restriction is in place other than their anatomy, but their anatomy is humanoid! That is contradictory. If it interfered with the diatocks' special abilities that would make sense.
Is the blur effect a constant effect? That's a neat idea but again, even without being able to wear armor this seems a bit powerful.
You should have probably used the Elite Array before making adjustments. [From the SRD: The elite array is: 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8. While the monster has one weakness compared to a typical member of its race, it is significantly better overall. The elite array is most appropriate for monsters who add levels in a player character class.]
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I think it may have been to underline the differences in their immunities and vulnerabilities.
Monster Manual tradition... warriors are much more basic (technically outnumbering fighters in any given population) and out of the box while still being useable as an encounter. If that last thing weren't a requirement then they should be commoners.
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I just noticed that I messed up the Lore section by not looking at how Knowledge checks are done and most of the entries seem to be off on this.
Lappy -- How does the Sentient Plant subtype differ from the Augmented subtype? I don't mind new subtypes, but this seems rather unneccessary.
Why is the sample creature a warrior? It isn't even it's favored class. If you change it to Bard that would make a lot more sense.
Born to Blossom pretty much negates the restriction to wearing armor.
Is the blur effect a constant effect? That's a neat idea but again, even without being able to wear armor this seems a bit powerful.
Furthermore, the restriction seem pretty arbitrary to me. You don't say why the restriction is in place other than their anatomy, but their anatomy is humanoid! That is contradictory. If it interfered with the diatocks' special abilities that would make sense.
You should have probably used the Elite Array before making adjustments. [From the SRD: The elite array is: 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8. While the monster has one weakness compared to a typical member of its race, it is significantly better overall. The elite array is most appropriate for monsters who add levels in a player character class.]
Thanks for the PEACH!
EDIT: Geez, way to Ninja me, DracoDei. I didn't know you were a dragon and a ninja
I eagerly await your entry. You always aim to impress!
Double Edit: Before anyone asks about why crystalline creatures are defined as a plant creature, diatocks are based partly off diatoms, microscopic crystal-like protists (I know they're not plants, but it seemed close enought by D&D standards)
Time Theme + Microscopic Protists + Gwen Stefani = Diatocks.Last edited by Lappy9000; 2009-01-06 at 04:24 PM.
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I'll prolly be setting this month out. I'm designing 3 Epic PrC's as xmas presents for some people I know. I've been "designing" them for weeks and weeks now. And in an effort to finally finish the darn things I'll need to hold off till next month.
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My bad. I wasn't thinking of how the Monster Manual presents creatures. It is correctly as an 1st level NPC warrior.
Lappy,
Also, you had this under Diatocks as Characters: ""Traits: A soulstitched possesses the following traits:...." Don't you mean "diatock" not "soulstitched"?
BTW, it is missing 8 skill points. The modifier for Int is always a minimum of 1 so even creatures with penalties to Int still get skill points to spend. Plants get 2 times Int modifier (minimum 1) with quadruple for their first HD.
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Well Bhu they are both up now, albeit in very rough forms... if VT or the majority of other contestants think it in the spirit of the contest I will withdraw the "The First Word" portion of the entry from the contest, placing both Words into a separate thread for people to use, and leaving The Final Word here as the entry.
What do people think I should do with the Deflection bonuses? They don't use their Charisma for much else, so I can vary them to whatever I like or even drop them entirely from on or the other of them...Last edited by DracoDei; 2009-01-07 at 06:18 PM.
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Hmmm, I've got a good idea for a main ability of a creature, but can't think of much else for it. Mainly it is the ability to split its time line allowing it to take two turns (or sets of turns) from a starting point after which both merge back together (at one of the locations) with all effects done to both combine (ie. if one takes 10 dmg and the other takes 15 then when the effect ends it will have 25 damage). Does this seem like it would be better for something more monstrous, or something more humanoid (can use equipment etc.)?
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